Friday, 2018-02-09

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ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting02:33
openstackMeeting started Fri Feb  9 02:33:45 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.02:33
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.02:33
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting'02:33
ekcshello all.02:33
ekcssorry starting a few minutes late.02:34
masahitohello02:34
ramineni_Hi02:34
ekcstopics are kept here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics02:34
ekcsplease read/comment/add =)02:34
ekcshi masahito and ramineni_ !02:35
ekcsbeen a while since we’re all together =)02:35
ramineni_:)02:36
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ekcs#topic RC102:38
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ekcsWe tagged RC1 today and branched stable/queens for congress and congress-dashboard.02:38
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ekcseverything went pretty smoothly with the RC. 02:38
ramineni_ekcs: great :)02:39
ekcsWe can continue testing and if we don’t find any critical bugs RC1 will be final RC in a few weeks.02:39
ekcsbig thanks to ramineni_ for working together getting all the last patches merged to get the most solid RC out that we could =)02:40
ekcsany questions or comments?02:40
ekcswe still have a few things we didn’t quite get to finish, especially around tempest testing. this is a good time for us to continue pushing them through to set ourselves up well for the future.02:41
ramineni_ekcs: what else pending with tempest02:42
ramineni_Testing02:42
ekcsmostly things I started trying to do that I haven’t been able to finish/succeed in =p02:44
ekcsmistral setup isn’t working in new repo somehow.02:44
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ekcsre-enabling ironic in gate.02:44
ekcsadding basic monasca tests02:44
ekcsthere may be other things too.02:45
ramineni_Ok02:45
ekcsmost of these are all stuck at devstack setup type of issues.02:45
ramineni_Ohk02:46
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ramineni_Same issues since last release right02:46
ekcsironic yes.02:47
ekcsmonasca we never tried enabling in gate before.02:47
ekcsso this is first time.02:47
ramineni_Ya .. right02:47
ekcsoh another thing is that now that we’ve branched there is no longer a feature freeze on master.02:48
ekcsanything else to discuss on RC1?02:48
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ekcsok moving on then.02:51
ekcs#topic rocky brainstorm02:51
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ekcsWe can also start to brainstorm for what we’d like to get done in Rocky.02:51
ekcsWe can discuss anything that comes to mind now.02:52
ekcsI also started an etherpad here for people to drop ideas in over the next couple weeks. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-rocky-brainstorm02:53
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ekcsOk if nothing to discuss now let’s move along then.02:58
ekcsAny other topics people have in mind for today?02:58
ekcsok then let’s go ahead and end early if we don’t have more to discuss =)03:04
masahitoI have nothing from my side.03:04
ekcsoh one last thing I’ll mention, while it’s still fresh in our minds, I also made an etherpad where we can reflect on what we liked and disliked about the queens cyle.03:05
ekcsto help us continue adjusting and making our lives easier going forward.03:05
ekcsIf you get a chance please jot down some quick thoughts in this etherpad #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-queens-retrospective03:05
ekcsThanks a lot!03:06
ekcslets end meeting then?03:06
ramineni_Yes .. Nothing from my side .. Thanks03:06
masahitothanks!03:07
ekcsalright hope you all have a great friday and a fun weekend!03:07
ekcsbye ramineni_03:07
ekcsbye masahito03:07
ekcs#endmeeting03:07
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smcginnis#startmeeting releaseteam15:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Feb  9 15:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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smcginnisPing list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx, armstrong15:00
lbragstado/15:00
armstrong Hello15:00
dhellmanno/15:00
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smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking Agenda15:01
smcginnisLooks like we are around line 43115:01
smcginnisarmstrong: Will you be able to attend the PTG?15:01
armstrongI didn’t get air ticket to come15:02
armstrongI would have loved to15:02
smcginnisarmstrong: OK, that's too bad. Was thinking it would be a good time to show you some things.15:02
smcginnisarmstrong: And would be nice to meet. But by no means necessary. :)15:02
fungihowdy15:02
smcginnisOK, let's get started.15:03
smcginnis#topic Pipeline15:03
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ttxI went through the list to check what was blocked and why15:03
smcginnisI'll wait to talk about the photo. Just added that on there so I wouldn't forget.15:03
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ttxThere are a couple in that list which we could unblock ourselves15:03
ttxkeystone15:04
ttxdevstack-plugin-container15:04
smcginnislbragstad: Do you think you will need an rc2?15:04
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ttxtacker-horizon15:04
dhellmannlbragstad approved that patch, didn't he? so it's going to merge into keystone?15:04
lbragstadyes15:04
lbragstadhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/541567/315:04
dhellmannlbragstad : should we wait for a new rc1 then?15:04
dhellmannor go ahead and have an rc2 later?15:05
lbragstadi'm working on a bug that would be nice to get included into queens15:05
lbragstadbut it's not a release stopper15:05
ttxso there will be a rc2 anyway15:05
smcginnisThat sounds like an RC2 then.15:05
dhellmannok, if you're going to have an rc2 anyway we might as well go ahead with this one15:05
ttxok approving15:05
lbragstadyeah15:05
dhellmannthanks, lbragstad15:05
ttxdone15:06
lbragstadno problem, thanks pinging the translations review15:06
ttxdevstack-plugin-container I can fast-track governance15:06
ttxwhich would unblock it15:06
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smcginnisThat one seems trivial enough.15:06
dhellmannyeah, that seems ok15:06
* lbragstad had a question about release notes, but he'll wait until open discussion15:06
smcginnislbragstad: Eh, just go ahead now I guess. :)15:07
ttxsmcginnis: dhellmann https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540906/15:07
lbragstadi was curious about my comment here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542385/4/deliverables/queens/keystone.yaml15:07
ttxif you +1 that review I'll fasttrack it15:08
smcginnisDone15:08
smcginnislbragstad: Oh, sorry, I thought I responded to that.15:08
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dhellmannttx: done15:08
smcginnislbragstad: It ends up with the validation it has to be added after branching, otherwise15:08
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smcginnisyou can add a link to the unreleased.html page until then and update after.15:09
lbragstadok15:09
lbragstador i can just add the release-notes link directly to queens in the rc2 proposal?15:09
smcginnislbragstad: But not sure if we need the cycle-highlights linking to the release notes.15:09
smcginnislbragstad: Yeah, that would be a good time.15:09
ttxOK governance opatch approved, release patch rebased15:09
lbragstadi was trying to do what mriedem was doing here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542459/3/deliverables/queens/nova.yaml15:10
ttxthat leaves tacker-horizon... for which we could push teh project-config patch15:10
lbragstadbut yeah - that makes sense, nova's is tracking unreleased..15:11
smcginnislbragstad: OK, good. I'm sure Anne can give us feedback later when we see how this first time around goes.15:11
dhellmannlbragstad : we will run a tool to add/update all of the release note links as part of our end-of-cycle process15:11
dhellmannoh, maybe that's something different?15:11
ttxI'll approve mistral since the proposer is the liaison15:11
d0ugalThanks :)15:11
ttxerr, it's workflow-1 now15:11
dhellmannI think it's probably safe to approve ceilometer-powervm, too, since the interaction with that team is minimal15:12
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ttxyeah15:12
smcginnisdhellmann: That's what I was thinking too.15:12
ttxLet's pile up15:12
smcginnisWe could track down Gordon, but I know he was only doing it because we pressured him. ;)15:12
dhellmannright15:12
smcginnisNeutron did contact me yesterday asking for a little more time.15:13
ttxdhellmann: smcginnis if we all +2 that shall pass15:13
smcginnisI think they expected to have things squared away this morning (my morning).15:13
fungitechnically jd__ is back to being ptl for telemetry anyway15:13
dhellmannI approved the ceilometer-powervm release15:13
dhellmannfungi : that doesn't apply to releases for this cycle, though15:14
fungior at least will be after release15:14
dhellmannright15:14
fungiyeah, that15:14
ttxdhellmann: shall we push the project-config patch for tacker-horizon?15:14
funginoting that he intended to be ptl last time and gordc stood in for him because he wasn't available to post his nomination15:14
fungiwas travelling or something like that15:15
smcginnisyep15:15
dhellmannttx: maybe? I'm always more inclined to let teams feel a little pain when they don't pay attention to these things.15:15
ttxdhellmann: they won't fix it before Monday now, due to tz15:15
dhellmannotoh, with all of the turmoil with the zuulv3 transition and those jobs being changed...15:15
ttxif we are fine waiting until then, then ok15:16
dhellmannI'm fine going ahead if you all want to. I can propose the patch, but expect to be leaving here in about 90 minutes so I won't be able to watch it for failures15:16
smcginnisMy thinking is the same as dhellmann. With flexibility lately do to external factors.15:16
ttxdhellmann: I'll pick it up if you can't follow up15:16
ttxsmcginnis: that is all we can affect at this point imho15:17
fungijust a reminder, but if there are any release-blocker infra patches, please do give me a heads-up/reminder and i'll prioritize them15:17
ttx(in Pipeline)15:17
dhellmannhttps://review.openstack.org/54287915:17
smcginnisMistral is good now, right?15:17
ttxd0ugal just workflowed-1 it15:18
smcginnisttx: That was somehow on the last patchset rev.15:18
d0ugalttx: that was PS115:18
ttxah ok15:18
dhellmannhe proposed a new patch which has passed the checs15:18
dhellmannchecks15:18
d0ugalyeah, sorry for the confusion, I noticed we were missing a bug fix that just landed.15:18
ttxapproved15:19
dhellmannd0ugal : good call, saves potentially needing an rc215:19
d0ugalyeah, hopefully :)15:19
ttxsmcginnis: shall we move to missing bits?15:20
ttxas we might need to decide on triggering those ourself15:20
smcginnisYeah, was just taking one last look through.15:20
smcginnis#topic Missing RCs15:20
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smcginnisAnyone hear anything from these teams?15:20
dhellmannEmilienM : what's up with tripleo-quickstart?15:21
smcginnisWas just typing that. :)15:21
dhellmannricolin : is heat going to release as part of queens this cycle?15:21
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dhellmannI don't see dave-mccowan for barbican15:22
smcginnisI can send out a ML post highlighting these and see if that gets those teams' attention.15:22
fungilooks like the searchlight-ui second rc made it through to pypi with both a wheel and an sdist15:23
smcginnis\o/15:23
smcginnisGiven the number we pushed through yesterday, I think our odd failure issue count is heading in the right direction.15:23
ttxsmcginnis: I'll let you approve https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540570 since I rebased it15:24
smcginnisOK15:24
smcginnisI see Neutron pushed an update.15:24
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smcginnisHopefully they are ready, but neither one is in channel to ask.15:25
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armstrong@dhellmann: heat suppose to be an inter grail part of all OpenStack releases right?15:26
dhellmannarmstrong : I think that depends on who you ask.15:26
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smcginnisAnything else on the missing RCs? I will post to ML. If we don't hear from them...15:26
fungithe heat team will definitely say so ;)15:26
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smcginnisTrue ;)15:26
dhellmannbut yeah, I expect them to participate in the release15:27
smcginnisI'm a little surprised by Barbican and Heat. My impression was they are both fairly active projects right now.15:28
ttxSo those are milestone-driven RC1s, for which we have traditionally be a bit flexible around RC1 time15:28
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ttxSo I would not force-tag them today15:28
dhellmannsmcginnis : heat has given us this sort of issue in the past. I think the small size of the barbican team is probably causing that issue.15:28
smcginnisForce a final RC just prior to final release if they don't come around?15:28
ttxideally they should communicate that they are working on ut15:28
ttxor it15:28
smcginnisHopefully if I post something that will get attention.15:29
ttxsmcginnis: it's worse than forcing it now tbh15:29
ttxMaybe force it next week15:29
smcginnisttx: Oh, that's true.15:29
dhellmannsay, tuesday?15:29
smcginnisYeah, next week seems like a good balance.15:29
ttxyeah...15:29
ttxgive them until Monday to propsoe one and/or ask formally for delay15:29
smcginnis#agreed Force RCs next Tuesday for missing projects15:29
ttxI'm fine waiting if we know they are aware they are pushing it15:30
smcginnisThat should be enough time.15:30
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smcginnisYeah, if they contact us prior to then with a reason to delay, I'm fine with that too.15:30
smcginnisAs long as it's not too much of a delay.15:30
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ttx(and then stay on channel to keep us updated )15:30
smcginnis++15:31
dhellmann++15:31
dhellmannwhat's up with patrole? that's the only other deliverable with no releases this cycle that we haven't talked about15:31
smcginnisOh right.15:31
* ttx is lost with all those special-cased QA deliverables15:31
dhellmannmaybe that should be independent15:31
dhellmannthey have 2 releases that aren't recorded at all15:32
smcginnisI would guess that's the case.15:32
dhellmannok, we can clean that up15:32
smcginnisI don't see Andrea around, but we could ask in -qa.15:32
ttxI think we raised that question in the past... not sure what the outcome was15:32
smcginnisMaybe like forcing a release, we could force a switch to independent?15:33
ttxfor sahara-extra... I think we are not in a hurry, they have a 6.0.0 and a stable/queens branch15:33
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dhellmannsmcginnis , ttx: I proposed a change to just delete the deliverable file for now15:33
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smcginnis++15:33
ttxthat leaves tripleo-quickstart15:34
smcginnisdhellmann: Do we also need to remove it from the repo list in governance/reference/projects.yaml?15:34
smcginniss/Do we/Should we/15:34
dhellmannsmcginnis : no, it's still an official repo, we're just not managing the releases15:34
smcginnisI have a feeling -quickstart was just overlooked.15:35
smcginnisdhellmann: OK, makes sense.15:35
dhellmanntripleo-quickstart is cycle-trailing, so I wonder if they're waiting as long as possible to prepare a release15:35
dhellmanndid we give a separate deadline for them?15:35
smcginnisIs it trailing?15:35
* smcginnis looks again15:35
ttxtrailing but intermediary-released?15:36
dhellmannyes15:36
* ttx is still confised15:36
ttxu15:36
dhellmannthis came up last cycle, too15:36
smcginnisOh, it is cycle-trailing. Then that's OK, right?15:36
dhellmannthey only did one release last cycle, too15:36
ttxoh well15:36
ttxlet's say it's ok then15:36
dhellmannthey aren't creating branches in that repo15:37
smcginnisI don't know anything about it, but a "quickstart" might be something that needs to be updated and released at the end after everything else is done.15:37
dhellmannI wonder if it should just be independent15:37
dhellmannit's some sort of bootstrap installer15:38
smcginnisIt's a little early for EmilienM, but we can ask.15:38
dhellmannso yeah15:38
EmilienMhello15:38
smcginnisEmilienM: Good morning!15:38
ttxnever too early for EmilienM15:38
dhellmannwe need a section in these deliverable files for notes for us for "special handling instructions"15:38
EmilienMgood morning release-managers15:38
smcginnisEmilienM: We were discussing tripleo-quickstart.15:38
ttxdhellmann: "handle with care" ?15:39
ttxdhellmann: "this side up" ?15:39
* EmilienM invites weshay|ruck15:39
smcginnisEmilienM: Should that be independent? Or is it tied to a cycle?15:39
weshay|ruckhola15:39
EmilienMsmcginnis: probably independent for now15:39
smcginnisAnd if the latter, should it be branching.15:39
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EmilienMsmcginnis: we're in discussion to branch tripleo-quickstart-extras15:39
dhellmannttx: "deliveries around back"15:39
weshay|ruckya.. when discussed yesterday we said independent15:39
EmilienMbut not tripleo-quickstart15:39
EmilienMworks for me15:39
ttxdhellmann: "keep dry"15:40
dhellmannEmilienM : would you update the releases repo, please?15:40
dhellmannttx: "live animals"15:40
EmilienMdhellmann: doing it now15:40
dhellmannthanks!15:40
ttxdhellmann: "do not stack"15:40
smcginnisThanks EmilienM, weshay|ruck.15:40
dhellmannttx: "team lift"15:40
smcginnis:)15:41
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smcginnisOK, anything else on missing RCs?15:41
EmilienMare you in a naming battle?15:41
smcginnisEmilienM: I think it's end of release week delirium. ;)15:41
dhellmannEmilienM : it's like a rap battle, but we're quoting boxes at each other15:41
EmilienM... on IRC. Very nerdy rappers ;-)15:42
smcginnisHah!15:42
ttx"Stack correctly"15:42
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smcginnis#topic Issues15:42
ttxhttps://www.shutterstock.com/da/image-vector/set-packaging-symbols-this-side-up-33052879415:42
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fungittx: if memory serves, the signs we saw on the pallets during the vancouver marketplace tour before the last summit there said "no stack!"15:43
ttx"Stacking limitation"15:43
dhellmannttx: oh, you're cheating. I'm coming up with these from memory!15:43
dhellmannfungi : are you sure that wasn't KubeConf?15:43
ttxoooooh "Max Stack"15:43
fungiouch15:43
* smcginnis tries to remember some of the signs from Walking Dead15:43
smcginnisHaha, nice one.15:43
smcginnisOK, heat-translator...15:44
fungidhellmann: i think they call it "kubageddon"  now15:44
smcginnisThis one apparently is a client lib?15:44
dhellmannso for heat-translator we need to get the heat team to ask the requirements team for that FFE or we're going to be in a weird state where we've released something that isn't in CI15:44
ttxdhellmann: no it was at OpenSTack Summit, although on a Oracle booth.15:44
dhellmannI can't tell if it's a client lib or a regular lib15:44
dhellmannwe probably shouldn't have released it since it came after the deadline15:44
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dhellmannttx: zing15:45
smcginnisYeah, we're kind of in a bad spot now with having a release that won't actually be picked up15:45
dhellmannyeah, we should probably have a separate email thread about that15:46
smcginnis+15:46
dhellmannor maybe we ask for the ffe ourselves?15:46
smcginnisLet's do that.15:47
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smcginnisSince we've released it.15:47
dhellmannok. I'm off to the airport shortly so can someone else do it?15:47
smcginnisI can send that with the other post.15:47
dhellmannok, thanks, smcginnis15:47
ttxthanks15:47
smcginnisWith, but separate.15:47
dhellmann++15:47
smcginnisAnd for Rocky, we need to sort this out before lib freeze time. I will mention that in there as well.15:48
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smcginnis#topic PTG15:48
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smcginnisThere are going to be team photos again.15:48
dhellmannwhatever happened to the pictures from denver? I haven't seen them.15:48
smcginnisI never know when to schedule these, because no matter what they will be a disription.15:49
smcginnisdhellmann: I was just wondering that.15:49
dhellmannyeah, the time you picked seems fine15:49
smcginnisI'm sure they are out there somewhere.15:49
dhellmannor we could do it on wednesday since I assume that's when we're getting together to tag the release15:49
smcginnisI figured right after the requirements team might at least be a little better.15:49
dhellmannoh, wednesday doesn't seem to be an option15:49
smcginnisYeah.15:50
dhellmannthursday is better than tuesday for sure15:50
smcginnisMight be better to have that behind us too.15:50
dhellmannyeah, good point15:50
smcginnisMon-Tue is usually pretty overbooked for this group anyway I think.15:50
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dhellmannright15:51
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smcginnisAs far as tagging the release, I assume we'll just find a table somewhere relatively quiet and work through all that again.15:51
ttxI'll make whatever time you pick15:51
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dhellmannsmcginnis : yeah, good plan.15:52
ttxhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/152419717@N06/sets/72157680602754246/15:52
smcginnisWas there one from Denver? I think when I had looked before I only found this one for ATL.15:52
ttxwe don't seem to be on that list15:53
ttxoh that was ATL15:53
smcginnisAlways chuckle at that Designate photo.15:53
ttxhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/152419717@N06/37246381525/in/album-72157689092104285/15:53
dhellmannI need to run, unfortunately.15:53
ttxHere we are15:53
smcginnisThanks dhellmann!15:54
dhellmannhave a good weekend, folks!15:54
smcginnisYou too. And enjoy PTO.15:54
ttxhave a good week !15:54
fungithanks!15:54
armstrongBye @dhellmann15:54
dhellmannthanks! I'll be back online thursday15:54
smcginnisI think we're probably done here too. Anything else?15:54
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ttxnothing else from me15:55
smcginnisOK, back to it then. Thanks everyone.15:55
smcginnis#endmeeting15:55
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ricolindhellmann, smcginnis sorry for the delay, I will release heat today16:12
smcginnisricolin: Thanks!16:12
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