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| shaohe_feng | litao__: morning. | 02:26 |
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| litao__ | \o | 02:27 |
| litao__ | let's start? shaohe_feng | 02:28 |
| shaohe_feng | OK | 02:28 |
| litao__ | #startmeeting mogan | 02:29 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 25 02:29:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is litao__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:29 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: mogan)" | 02:29 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mogan' | 02:29 |
| litao__ | ok, just we two | 02:29 |
| litao__ | we can talk freelyu | 02:29 |
| litao__ | freely | 02:29 |
| litao__ | as always, the agenda: | 02:30 |
| litao__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:30 |
| litao__ | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements and reminders (Meeting topic: mogan)" | 02:30 | |
| litao__ | shaohe_feng: do you have thing to discuss here? | 02:31 |
| litao__ | If no we can jump to the task tracking | 02:31 |
| wanghao | I'm here | 02:32 |
| litao__ | hi , wanghao | 02:32 |
| wanghao | hi | 02:32 |
| shaohe_feng | litao__: I have submit a patch for RSD simulator. | 02:33 |
| wanghao | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | sorry, I'm late | 02:34 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: hah, just start | 02:34 |
| wanghao | this is out whitboard, we should choose some task to decide to merge in Queen. | 02:34 |
| shaohe_feng | litao__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522445/ | 02:35 |
| litao__ | wanghao: yestordy, I update the WhiteBoard | 02:35 |
| shaohe_feng | litao__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523052/ | 02:35 |
| shaohe_feng | litao__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524123/ | 02:35 |
| shaohe_feng | litao__: not sure the RSD is a high priority | 02:35 |
| litao__ | shaohe_feng: ok, we will review it as soon as possible | 02:36 |
| zhenguo | the RSD simulator can work now? | 02:36 |
| shaohe_feng | I guess most cloud provider have no RSD avaliable | 02:36 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: It is run. but can not interactive | 02:37 |
| litao__ | yes, maybe some provider does n't know it | 02:37 |
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| wanghao | litao__: okay | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | so we need to make sure the simulator work first | 02:37 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: Yes, I think so | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | litao__: hah | 02:38 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: do you have much time to work for RSD? | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: why can't interactive | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | litao__: no | 02:38 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: it can interactive. | 02:40 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: just in shell | 02:40 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: not api | 02:40 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: So I did not know how to support it. | 02:40 |
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| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: it doesn't support api interactive or we don't finish that? | 02:40 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: I means simulator insert sled/blade. | 02:40 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: the simulator support redfish api, we can use it compose a node | 02:41 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: but only one node. | 02:41 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: we need manually insert more sleds/blades | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: hah, but one node seems ok for testing | 02:42 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: OK. | 02:42 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo, shaohe_feng : should we set RSD a low priority？ | 02:43 |
| wanghao | I think we need to move the RSD to R | 02:43 |
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| wanghao | since this week is R-3 release | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | yes | 02:44 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: we didn't to commit the release patch like other office projects, right? | 02:44 |
| wanghao | how to release our version? | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: yes, I can add some of you to the mogan release group | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | you can sent a patch to tag a realease | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | but not sure how to create a branch, seems need infra guys to help | 02:45 |
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| wanghao | okay | 02:46 |
| litao__ | zhenguo, wanghao : later we research it | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | ok | 02:47 |
| litao__ | so we jump to the next topci | 02:48 |
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| litao__ | #topic task tracking | 02:48 |
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| litao__ | As wanghao said, we should list our tasks currently | 02:49 |
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| litao__ | Yesterday， I updated our tasks in #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard | 02:49 |
| litao__ | so we should choose some to work in queen | 02:50 |
| wanghao | I just added a Mova to Rocky | 02:51 |
| wanghao | Move | 02:51 |
| wanghao | please move your tasks which will land in Rocky here | 02:51 |
| wanghao | and we will fousc on other left tasks in queen. | 02:52 |
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| litao__ | sure | 02:52 |
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| litao__ | I just lost, do you get my message wanghao | 02:54 |
| wanghao | I got your message "sure" : ) | 02:55 |
| litao__ | ok | 02:55 |
| shaohe_feng | litao__: seems you are always on | 02:56 |
| litao__ | shaohe_feng: hah | 02:56 |
| litao__ | shaohe_feng: currently , you works for RSD mainly? | 02:56 |
| shaohe_feng | litao__: yes. | 02:57 |
| litao__ | ok , so you can continue it | 02:57 |
| shaohe_feng | litao__: you know RSD is intel's important feature. :) | 02:57 |
| litao__ | yes, I want you can land it in mogan | 02:57 |
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| shaohe_feng | OK | 02:58 |
| litao__ | wanghao: do you introduce your current work ? | 02:58 |
| litao__ | wanghao: which bp？ | 02:58 |
| wanghao | okay | 02:58 |
| wanghao | I'm now focuse on the unmanage servers in Queen | 02:59 |
| wanghao | need review | 02:59 |
| litao__ | I saw you have commit it for a long time | 03:00 |
| wanghao | yes | 03:00 |
| wanghao | hope we can land it in queen | 03:00 |
| litao__ | Yes, we should review it quickly | 03:00 |
| wanghao | and another bp: support cinder in Mogan. this will move to Rocky.. sorry | 03:00 |
| litao__ | np, This is a hard work | 03:01 |
| wanghao | I think I can land a bp and a bug in queen :( | 03:01 |
| wanghao | haha thanks | 03:01 |
| litao__ | So maybe someone can help you to code if you need | 03:02 |
| litao__ | hah, i look forward to your bp | 03:02 |
| litao__ | anything else？ | 03:03 |
| wanghao | sure np | 03:03 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: are you here？ | 03:04 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo: I found some bp assigned to you originally such as server-raid-configuration ，no-os-server | 03:06 |
| litao__ | I guess you have less time to contribute it, hah | 03:07 |
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| litao__ | Maybe zhenguo is offline | 03:08 |
| litao__ | #topic open discussion | 03:09 |
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| litao__ | anyone has something to discuss here | 03:09 |
| litao__ | I worked for server tagging and will land it in Queen | 03:10 |
| litao__ | ok, we will end the meeting | 03:11 |
| litao__ | Thank you all for joining the meeting | 03:11 |
| litao__ | #endmeeting | 03:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 03:12 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 25 03:12:00 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2018/mogan.2018-01-25-02.29.html | 03:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2018/mogan.2018-01-25-02.29.txt | 03:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2018/mogan.2018-01-25-02.29.log.html | 03:12 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 07:57 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 25 07:57:57 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:57 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 07:57 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 07:58 |
| gmann | who all here today | 07:58 |
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| masayukig | o/ | 08:00 |
| gmann | masayukig: seems like 2 of us | 08:01 |
| masayukig | heh :-p | 08:01 |
| gmann | let start and finish early | 08:01 |
| masayukig | +1 | 08:02 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_Jan_25th_2018_.280800_UTC.29 | 08:02 |
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| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 08:02 |
| chandankumar | \o/ | 08:02 |
| masayukig | yay! | 08:02 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-queens-priorities | 08:02 |
| gmann | not sure we tracked these anytime. so let's skip | 08:03 |
| andreaf | o/ | 08:03 |
| gmann | #topic Previous Meeting Action review | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Previous Meeting Action review (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:03 | |
| gmann | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-01-18-17.01.html | 08:03 |
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| * masayukig is waving to andreaf :) | 08:03 | |
| gmann | no AI from last meeting | 08:03 |
| gmann | #topic Office Hours Summary | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Office Hours Summary (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:03 | |
| gmann | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa_office_hours/2018/qa_office_hours.2018-01-18-08.58.html | 08:04 |
| gmann | ^^ last week office hour summary | 08:04 |
| gmann | i think we triaged around 5-6 bugs there | 08:04 |
| chandankumar | gmann: thanks for leading the office hour :-) | 08:04 |
| masayukig | Thanks gmann andreaf ! | 08:05 |
| gmann | and me and andreaf pushed some fix also | 08:05 |
| gmann | NP! | 08:05 |
| gmann | but we still have many new bug which need first level triage. | 08:05 |
| gmann | one idea we talked before also that we can schedule a bug triage hours during PTG during code sprint time | 08:06 |
| masayukig | nice, I suppose it shouldn't take that much time. | 08:06 |
| andreaf | gmann: sure | 08:07 |
| gmann | yea mainly lot of cleanup needed for open/in-progress bugs which should be quick for us | 08:07 |
| gmann | ok anything else on office hour or bug things? | 08:07 |
| gmann | if nothing else let's move next | 08:09 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 08:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:09 | |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 08:09 |
| gmann | ongoing review on tempst | 08:09 |
| gmann | anything we need before queens release ? | 08:10 |
| andreaf | not from my side | 08:11 |
| gmann | ok. let's keep working on current tasks. if soemthing comes up we can take that on priority | 08:11 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 08:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:11 | |
| gmann | any critical review from anyone | 08:11 |
| chandankumar | gmann: andreaf https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504345/17 what other things i need to do get this patch available before queens release? | 08:12 |
| chandankumar | stestr one | 08:12 |
| andreaf | maybe not critical but nice to review | 08:12 |
| chandankumar | masayukig: ^^ | 08:12 |
| gmann | andreaf: py3 zuul job looks good as plan you mentioned | 08:12 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:py3_native | 08:12 |
| andreaf | gmann: cool thanks | 08:12 |
| gmann | andreaf: sure ll check that one also | 08:13 |
| andreaf | thanks | 08:13 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: I need to re-review that, sorry | 08:13 |
| gmann | chandankumar: i have not review that yet, but if not merge before this week i will check | 08:13 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: gmann thanks :-) | 08:14 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: we are almost done with tempest plugin split goal | 08:14 |
| gmann | any other review on priority. | 08:14 |
| chandankumar | (big accomplishment of queens release) | 08:14 |
| andreaf | chandankumar \o/ well done | 08:15 |
| andreaf | chandankumar: btw any news on your visa? | 08:15 |
| masayukig | chandankumar: I think https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529490/ is needed for stackviz as I mentioned in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504345/16 | 08:15 |
| gmann | chandankumar: nice | 08:15 |
| masayukig | chandankumar: great! | 08:15 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: i will get to know by next tuesday | 08:15 |
| chandankumar | andreaf: masayukig gmann is it a good idea to submit a talk on sharing experience on tempest plugin split goal as a goal champion? | 08:16 |
| * gmann also needs to apply for visa | 08:16 | |
| chandankumar | for summit | 08:16 |
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| masayukig | chandankumar: +1 :) | 08:17 |
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| andreaf | chandankumar: sure go fot iy | 08:17 |
| andreaf | it | 08:17 |
| gmann | let's move to open | 08:17 |
| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 08:17 |
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| gmann | chandankumar: good idea | 08:17 |
| chandankumar | sure i will share the proposal with you all. | 08:17 |
| andreaf | masayukig: yeah that is needed at least for legacy jobs | 08:17 |
| masayukig | andreaf: yeah, I'm not sure who is using stackviz currently, though :-p | 08:18 |
| chandankumar | masayukig: stackviz is used by tripleo-ci | 08:18 |
| andreaf | masayukig: I am every now and than but not so often | 08:18 |
| masayukig | chandankumar: oh, thanks, nice :) | 08:18 |
| chandankumar | masayukig: https://github.com/openstack/tripleo-quickstart-extras/blob/master/roles/validate-tempest/tasks/stackviz.yml | 08:18 |
| andreaf | masayukig: but something is broken in the new native job so the stackviz folder does not show up in the logs :( I need to fix that | 08:19 |
| andreaf | there are a couple of things i wanted to mention | 08:19 |
| masayukig | andreaf: oh, I didn't know that. any bug URL for that? | 08:20 |
| andreaf | first I noticed quite a few random failures in check - is that everyone's experience as well? | 08:20 |
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| andreaf | masayukig: no sorry I haven't filed on I can do | 08:20 |
| masayukig | andreaf: no worries :) | 08:20 |
| gmann | andreaf: now recently but i faced during job timeout duration. do not remember the week | 08:21 |
| andreaf | masayukig: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1745322 | 08:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1745322 in tempest "stackviz folder does not show up in logs on zuulv3 native jobs" [Undecided,New] | 08:22 |
| andreaf | gmann: ok maybe I've just been unlucky | 08:22 |
| masayukig | andreaf: thanks! I'll check it | 08:22 |
| andreaf | the other thing I wanted to mention is about grenade native jobs | 08:23 |
| andreaf | or grenade jobs in general | 08:24 |
| andreaf | you may have noticed that jobs are now called neutron-grenade-* | 08:24 |
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| gmann | yea | 08:24 |
| andreaf | that's because the neutron team took legacy jobs, even grenade ones which are shared ones, and pulled them from openstack-zuul-job into neutron | 08:24 |
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| andreaf | then the infra team updated the integration gate to point to the jobs imported into the neutron repo | 08:25 |
| gmann | this one? - 'legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron' | 08:25 |
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| andreaf | that does not run anyomre | 08:25 |
| andreaf | anymore | 08:25 |
| andreaf | it's now neutron-grenade and neutron-grenade-multinode | 08:26 |
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| gmann | you mean that is not running on tempest/nova side | 08:26 |
| andreaf | but apart from the name it's a bit odd that a shared job is hosted in the neutron repo, instead of qa/infra | 08:26 |
| andreaf | gmann: no that is now in the integration gate so it runs against tempest devstack d-g nova cinder neutron keystone glance and swift | 08:27 |
| gmann | i see your point | 08:27 |
| andreaf | gmann: but it's hosted in the neutron repo | 08:27 |
| gmann | make sense, its not neutron only | 08:27 |
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| andreaf | my original plan was to host grenade native jobs in the grenade repo, but I need to check with the grenade team | 08:28 |
| andreaf | only I haven't had the time to write a native grenade job just yet :) | 08:28 |
| gmann | +1 to move to grenade repo | 08:28 |
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| gmann | andreaf: those can be moved from neutron as it is or need modification ? | 08:29 |
| andreaf | gmann: well we could move them as they are now, but we would also need to rename them, so it would be nicer to just define the native ones in the grenade and drop the legacy ones from neutron | 08:30 |
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| andreaf | gmann: I was hoping to finish off this kind of work before/at the PTG - and hopefully to recruite some help at the PTG :) | 08:31 |
| gmann | andreaf: ok | 08:31 |
| andreaf | gmann masayukig you're both coming to PTG ? | 08:32 |
| gmann | hope so :) | 08:32 |
| masayukig | andreaf: yea | 08:33 |
| masayukig | I'll be in Sunday | 08:33 |
| andreaf | great :) | 08:33 |
| gmann | but i need to apply visa also | 08:33 |
| andreaf | gmann oh ok finger crossed | 08:33 |
| gmann | i will also plan with some buffer day as it is beautiful place | 08:33 |
| masayukig | +1 | 08:33 |
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| masayukig | I also have buffer days after PTG :) | 08:34 |
| andreaf | I'll be there on Sunday too and I will be somehow jet lagged because I'm flying from san francisco | 08:34 |
| gmann | nice | 08:34 |
| masayukig | andreaf: ah, IBM's event? | 08:34 |
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| andreaf | Index conference https://www-01.ibm.com/events/wwe/indexconf/indexconf18.nsf | 08:35 |
| masayukig | andreaf: looks so cool! | 08:36 |
| gmann | nice | 08:36 |
| gmann | let's move next | 08:36 |
| gmann | #topic Rocky PTG Planning | 08:37 |
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| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-rocky-ptg | 08:37 |
| andreaf | sorry the right link is https://developer.ibm.com/indexconf/ | 08:37 |
| andreaf | gmann: ups sorry | 08:37 |
| gmann | etherpad for ptg sessions planning. thanks andreaf for that | 08:37 |
| gmann | keep putting ideas/discussion items there | 08:37 |
| * masayukig nods | 08:38 | |
| gmann | as we have time till PTG and planning | 08:38 |
| * gmann why masayukig nods | 08:38 | |
| gmann | thats all for today | 08:38 |
| andreaf | gmann: regarding the interop I hope we have nothing to do but let's see if we can come to an agreement before / during PTG | 08:38 |
| gmann | andreaf: yea till now nothing. things goes and stop there :) | 08:39 |
| * masayukig was just thinking we should keep to update the etherpad :) | 08:39 | |
| gmann | i am ok with option1 also with current situation. if people not going to accept other options | 08:39 |
| masayukig | heh, let's see | 08:40 |
| gmann | i have added one sessions for that, and we conclude that and close the things with any option | 08:40 |
| gmann | that's all for today from my side. anything else to discuss ? | 08:42 |
| masayukig | nothing from my side | 08:43 |
| gmann | ok let's close then | 08:43 |
| gmann | 3 ... | 08:43 |
| gmann | 2 .. | 08:43 |
| gmann | 1 . | 08:44 |
| gmann | thanks all for joining | 08:44 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 08:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 08:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 25 08:44:18 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-01-25-07.57.html | 08:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-01-25-07.57.txt | 08:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2018/qa.2018-01-25-07.57.log.html | 08:44 |
| masayukig | thanks! | 08:44 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 25 14:00:21 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| edmondsw | o/ | 14:00 |
| mriedem | almost forgot the command to start this | 14:00 |
| stephenfin | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| gibi_ | o/ | 14:00 |
| efried | @/ | 14:01 |
| tssurya | o/ | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | ok let's get started | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | #topic release news | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| mriedem | #link Queens release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #info osc-placement 1.0.0 released which supports up to the placement 1.2 microversion | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #info Jan 25 (today!): q-3 milestone, Feature Freeze, final python-novaclient release, requirements freeze, Soft String Freeze | 14:02 |
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| efried | So question here. | 14:02 |
| mriedem | i'll be putting up the final novaclient release after the meeting | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | shoot | 14:02 |
| efried | How long do +W'd patches get to sit in the gate after FF before we have to shut 'em down for Q? | 14:02 |
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| efried | Because a week is a very realistic possibility. | 14:03 |
| mriedem | 4 days and 5 hours after the last +W was applied | 14:03 |
| mriedem | idk - depends on the risk of the patch i suppose and how close we are to RC1 | 14:03 |
| mriedem | we're 2 weeks to RC1 | 14:03 |
| mriedem | i think a recheck grind through next week is OK for things approved today, | 14:04 |
| mriedem | anything under a week to RC1 is not OK anymore probably | 14:04 |
| efried | Thanks | 14:04 |
| * alex_xu waves late | 14:04 | |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 52 targeted, 52 approved, 28 complete | 14:04 |
| mriedem | #link Queens blueprint status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-blueprint-status | 14:04 |
| mriedem | in ^ i broke out the already approved stuff, which i've been rechecking | 14:05 |
| mriedem | #link Queens RC1 TODOs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-queens-release-candidate-todo | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | i've been slowing adding some things to ^ | 14:05 |
| mriedem | as reminders | 14:05 |
| mriedem | also mentioned the idea of bumping the major rpc api versions with dansmith yesterday, something we haven't done in a long time, | 14:05 |
| mriedem | but would be nice to do to flush some old compat code out | 14:05 |
| mriedem | any questions about the release? | 14:06 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | nothing marked critical | 14:06 |
| mriedem | #info 51 new untriaged bugs | 14:06 |
| mriedem | so if you're waiting and watching your stuff sit in the gate queue for 10 hours, | 14:07 |
| mriedem | you can (1) help review some other stuff not yet approved, or (2) help with bug triage https://goo.gl/sweGJc | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | gate status has been not great as most people know | 14:07 |
| mriedem | there was a big regression introduced on tuesday, http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/#1745168 | 14:08 |
| mriedem | but the fix for that was promoted and landed yesterday | 14:08 |
| mriedem | otherwise i'm just seeing really long queue wait times, | 14:08 |
| mriedem | job timeouts, etc | 14:08 |
| efried | Rash of POST_FAILUREs just seems to have cropped up in the last few minutes. | 14:08 |
| mriedem | yeah i saw those too | 14:08 |
| mriedem | i wouldn't be surprised if there is a zuul restart at some point, | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | which would mean re-queueing everything | 14:08 |
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| efried | Anecdotal observation (no real evidence): If a patch in a tall series is in the gate and you recheck stuff *above* it (which shouldn't have an effect), the gate job stops. | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i also suggested to gibi that we should bump the nova functional job timeout b/c those have been timing out a lot since kernels are getting patched and nodes are slowing down | 14:09 |
| mriedem | efried: have you asked infra about that? | 14:09 |
| efried | No, just noticed it a few minutes ago. | 14:09 |
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| efried | but you bet I will. | 14:09 |
| mriedem | also, on job timeout changes, neutron bumped their unit / functional test timeouts recently too | 14:10 |
| mriedem | so it's not just us | 14:10 |
| mriedem | ok 3rd party CI - i don't have any news here | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | #link Rocky PTL nominations open up Jan 29 (next week): https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 14:10 |
| mriedem | let me know if anyone has any questions or doubts about ^ | 14:10 |
| mriedem | #link Rocky Summit call for presentations is open until Feb 8: https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/call-for-presentations/ | 14:10 |
| mriedem | seems like the call for presentations comes earlier every time | 14:11 |
| mriedem | #link Rocky PTG topics: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-rocky | 14:11 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 14:11 |
| mriedem | i haven't looked at what's up for review in stable in a few weeks, | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | but should probably do a series of stable branch releases next week | 14:12 |
| mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:12 |
| mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 14:12 |
| mriedem | #info Newton 14.1.0 released; should be EOL any day now, so treat it as such | 14:12 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: awake for cells v2? | 14:12 |
| mriedem | most of the meeting we spent talking about some of the issues cern is running into with moving to cells v2 | 14:13 |
| mriedem | they are moving to ocata now, | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | and plan to upgrade to pike by end of february | 14:13 |
| mriedem | they'll be using one massive single cell in ocata, and then in pike start doing 1:1 cell mappings for their cellsv1 child cells, | 14:13 |
| mriedem | and we talked quite a bit about stopgap solutions for what happens if a cell is down, | 14:14 |
| mriedem | and to continue being able to list/show servers out of the API when the cell is down, and how to handle quotas if a cell is down | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | some of that is summarized in the ptg topics etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-rocky | 14:14 |
| mriedem | tssurya has opened a few bugs for tracking some things with nova-manage CLIs | 14:15 |
| mriedem | and has promised to talk to us more often | 14:15 |
| mriedem | :) | 14:15 |
| tssurya | :) | 14:15 |
| mriedem | ok, edleafe - scheduler? | 14:15 |
| edleafe | ProviderTree series: many lower patches in the series have merged; currently https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526541/ is the beginning of the unmerged. It has a +W, but needs a recheck due to timeout error on PowerKVM. | 14:15 |
| edleafe | Nested Resource Provider selection by traits series, starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531899/: needs some love to fix broken future tests. Slow progress on this series. | 14:15 |
| edleafe | Suppport traits for allocation_candidates, starting with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535642/: mostly complete, just some CI indigestion issues. | 14:15 |
| edleafe | Granular requests: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/granular-resource-requests. Still very much a WIP, not targeted for Queens | 14:15 |
| edleafe | Remove microversion fallback code: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528794/. Looks good, although Zuul seems to disagree. | 14:15 |
| edleafe | Use alternate_hosts for resize: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526436/. Complete with +W, but Zuul doesn't like this one either. | 14:15 |
| edleafe | That's it. Zuul seems to be the biggest blocker at the moment, but rechecking is underway | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | ok, just a note that you don't need to recheck in general if a 3rd party CI fails | 14:16 |
| mriedem | since that will send it back through zuul and you might fail something, or timeout | 14:16 |
| mriedem | just recheck the 3rd party ci job | 14:17 |
| stephenfin | Didn't there used to be a way to recheck specific CIs? | 14:17 |
| stephenfin | ah | 14:17 |
| mriedem | there still is | 14:17 |
| efried | 3rd party ones, yeah | 14:17 |
| mriedem | the CI should leave a comment on the patch about how to recheck just it | 14:17 |
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| mriedem | otherwise i go here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 14:17 |
| mriedem | find the job and see the details which should tell you how to recheck it, | 14:18 |
| mriedem | if it's not there, yell at me | 14:18 |
| mriedem | and i'll yell at someone else | 14:18 |
| mriedem | probably my cat | 14:18 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: api highlights? | 14:18 |
| stephenfin | As if it would care anyway... | 14:18 |
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| alex_xu | we don't have api meeting this week | 14:18 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: ok, anything in particular you want to mention? | 14:19 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: nothing special | 14:19 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:19 |
| mriedem | gibi_: notification highlights? | 14:19 |
| gibi_ | sure | 14:19 |
| gibi_ | We agreed not to try to merge a fix for the problem reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1739325 without figuring out how that situation could happen in the first place. | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1739325 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Server operations fail to complete with versioned notifications if payload contains unset non-nullable fields" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 14:19 |
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| gibi_ | so this bug remains open | 14:20 |
| gibi_ | and Fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1742962 is on the gate and I'm in the process of reviewing ou | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742962 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "nova functional test does not triggered on notification sample only changes" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer) | 14:20 |
| gibi_ | r other jobs in project-config to see if we made the same mistakes in other cases. | 14:20 |
| gibi_ | I'm in the process of reviewing ou | 14:20 |
| gibi_ | r other jobs in project-config to see if we made the same mistakes in other cases. | 14:20 |
| gibi_ | that is all | 14:21 |
| mriedem | i'll have to check on the status of the backports for that one | 14:21 |
| gibi_ | mriedem: yes, and after the backports merges we have to merge the removal from project-config | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | ok cinder updates | 14:22 |
| mriedem | #info Volume multiattach support is merged in nova with microversion 2.60, see release notes for details | 14:22 |
| mriedem | #link Tracking multiattach issues and TODOs here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/multi-attach-volume-queens | 14:22 |
| mriedem | i'd appreciate review on the nova-multiattach job patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532689/ | 14:22 |
| mriedem | in nova | 14:22 |
| mriedem | it's top of a series of devstack and tempest changes so that we have a dedicated CI job for multiattach, which has to run w/o the pike UCA, so it's a bit special | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | i've pushed a corresponding patch to cinder to run the job there as well, | 14:23 |
| mriedem | and need to do the same for devstack and tempest, which is i think why gmann was -1 on it for now | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | nothing on the agenda | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | i know there are several changes that are going to get deferred to rocky, and have been around for a few releases, | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | i put something in the ptg etherpad about how we can maybe front-load those in rocky for early review to flush the backlog before adding new stuff, | 14:25 |
| mriedem | we've talked about that in the past (slots/runways/kanban) but i'm not sure what we'll do, | 14:25 |
| mriedem | i think it was newton or ocata where we said no new spec approvals for the first few weeks, only re-approvals, | 14:25 |
| mriedem | something like that | 14:25 |
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| efried | Fact is, some of the deferred stuff is probably lower priority, so not sure that makes a whole lot of sense. | 14:26 |
| mriedem | but that doesn't get eyeballs on the actual re-approved code, which is the problem | 14:26 |
| mgoddard | ironic node traits patches are complete but lacking on reviews. The ironic API & client have just landed in time | 14:26 |
| mgoddard | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/ironic-driver-traits+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 14:26 |
| mgoddard | I realised it's incredibly close to freeze | 14:26 |
| mriedem | efried: they are, | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | but we also add new low priority stuff | 14:26 |
| efried | I.e. given dev & reviewer bandwidth, might make more sense to not even re-approve certain carryovers right now. | 14:26 |
| mriedem | so my point is, all things being equal wrt low priority things, we should prioritize the stuff that's been around longer | 14:26 |
| efried | okay, all things being equal, sure. | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | re-approvals are much easier than reviewing a new spec for a new low priority thing | 14:27 |
| mriedem | since we've already invested the time in agreeing to do it | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | and the contributor has been rebasing the code for at least 6 months | 14:27 |
| efried | mm, there's that :) | 14:27 |
| mriedem | anyway, it's on the ptg agenda | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | mgoddard: given the state of the gate and how late those came along, well into q-3, i think that's probably going to get deferred | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:29 |
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| mriedem | there is nothing on the agenda | 14:29 |
| mriedem | does anyone have something to mention here? | 14:29 |
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| mdbooth | I was going to bring up mriedem 's comment here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523958/ | 14:29 |
| mdbooth | Might be more of a PTG topic, though | 14:30 |
| mgoddard_ | mriedem: yeah I guessed as much. TBH we weren't expecting the ironic client to land in time, so didn't push the nova side too hard. BTW those comments were meant for the scheduler update but had some huge lag on my IRC client | 14:30 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Yeah, I also noted my POV there, FWIW | 14:30 |
| mriedem | is there something you guys wanted to say here, or should we end the meeting? | 14:30 |
| mdbooth | Although it's a topic unique to Red Hat, so we might get to agree on it all by ourselves :) | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | given dansmith and melwitt aren't around yet (it's early for them) it's probably not a good time to talk about that right now | 14:31 |
| kashyap | mriedem: Your choice, thought I'd give you some time to read it, and not breathe down your neck :-) | 14:31 |
| kashyap | Okido, no rush | 14:31 |
| maciejjozefczyk | hmm, If you have a minute or two to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532924/ would be gr8 | 14:31 |
| mriedem | maciejjozefczyk: i want bauzas to take a look at that | 14:31 |
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| mriedem | feel free to badger bauzas | 14:32 |
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| Roamer` | maybe I could just annoy everyone once again by mentioning 140733 - the thing is, Canonical has a customer who insists on using StorPool and Canonical would much prefer if the driver made it into an official OpenStack release before backporting it there... and I'd like to thank mriedem once again, and also stephenfin for agreeing to look at it | 14:32 |
| Roamer` | and, again, I'll shut up now | 14:32 |
| maciejjozefczyk | mriedem: Yea, I ping'ed him also | 14:32 |
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| mriedem | alright i think we're done here | 14:32 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone, happy rechecking | 14:32 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 25 14:32:57 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-01-25-14.00.html | 14:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-01-25-14.00.txt | 14:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-01-25-14.00.log.html | 14:33 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 25 22:00:32 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
| mlavalle | Hi there! | 22:01 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | sup? | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | armax: ping | 22:02 |
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| mlavalle | amotoki: ping | 22:02 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: let's wait a couple of minutes | 22:02 |
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| ihrachys | this late meeting doesn't seem to play nice | 22:05 |
| armax | hi | 22:05 |
| mlavalle | there he is | 22:05 |
| armax | in between meetings | 22:05 |
| mlavalle | you have time for this meeting? | 22:06 |
| armax | yeah | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | great | 22:06 |
| armax | past meeting ran late | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | we have quorum today | 22:06 |
| yamamoto | hi | 22:06 |
| yamamoto | sorry late | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | First topic I wanted to cover was the release and FFEs | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | armax: anything we should be aware of as far as the release? | 22:07 |
| armax | not particularly | 22:07 |
| armax | next week we’ll cut the first RC1 | 22:07 |
| armax | queens-3 has been cut so there’s roughly one week to get things polished up in the neutron projects | 22:08 |
| armax | in time for RC1 | 22:08 |
| mlavalle | speaking of which.... | 22:08 |
| armax | https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 22:08 |
| mlavalle | as far as I know, there is one FFE for Neutron | 22:09 |
| armax | the calendar between now and the official release date | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126582.html | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | This is for new events being added for floating ips | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | armax, have we released tempest plugin? | 22:10 |
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| armax | so the long story short is that we don’t have to | 22:10 |
| armax | but we can if we want to | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | it's not synced with release right? | 22:10 |
| armax | and being on an indepentent release model we can do whenever | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | ok | 22:11 |
| armax | ihrachys: it’s must understanding that we test from master all the time | 22:11 |
| ihrachys | we should release it sometimes, yes. distros will be relieved somewhat. | 22:11 |
| armax | otherwise that defeats the point of branchless testing | 22:11 |
| ihrachys | armax, yes, but distros may want to package it still (which they do), and tarball is handy | 22:11 |
| armax | right, agreed | 22:11 |
| armax | I have it on my notepad | 22:11 |
| ihrachys | ok | 22:12 |
| armax | I’ll get it done, sir | 22:12 |
| mlavalle | going back to the FFE request | 22:12 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, to the q of new events, I think it's fine | 22:12 |
| ihrachys | and yes it's better to get them early so that they can rely on it | 22:12 |
| ihrachys | it's not an endorsement for patches but to include the bug | 22:13 |
| mlavalle | you agree armax? | 22:13 |
| ihrachys | do we track release bugs in LP? | 22:13 |
| armax | mlavalle: yes | 22:13 |
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| mlavalle | cool | 22:14 |
| mlavalle | any other FFEs you might be aware of? | 22:14 |
| ihrachys | we should track https://review.openstack.org/536913 to merge | 22:14 |
| armax | mlavalle: there’s one about OVN | 22:14 |
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| mlavalle | ihrachys: noted and agreed | 22:15 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534423/ | 22:15 |
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| mlavalle | is that what Daniel mentioned in the Neutron release patch yesterday? | 22:15 |
| ihrachys | yeah ovn folks were talking about some db correctness patches still in flight they wanted to include | 22:15 |
| armax | mlavalle: correct | 22:15 |
| armax | ihrachys: that’s the one ^ | 22:16 |
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| ihrachys | mlavalle, not sure about the patch, but yes it was Daniel that I talked to | 22:16 |
| ihrachys | armax, the only one? | 22:16 |
| ihrachys | I am puzzled about which patches should we list now? what's the policy from now on? should we stop merges for any approved patches that are in flight unless they are in the list? | 22:17 |
| ihrachys | (is the list in LP?) | 22:17 |
| ihrachys | there are quite some patches that haven't merged, they have +W | 22:17 |
| ihrachys | gate was not very welcoming so... | 22:17 |
| armax | ihrachys: we used to handle this via the rc-potential bug in LP | 22:18 |
| armax | s/bug/tag | 22:18 |
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| ihrachys | I think considering largely disastrous ways previous 2 releases went, maybe we should actually block merges except for tracked bug fixes + FFEs + gate fixes. | 22:18 |
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| ihrachys | armax, right. my question is, should I go and -2 / -W patches that are not in the list? :) | 22:18 |
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| armax | ihrachys: well, I used to that when I was in charge :) | 22:19 |
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| mlavalle | I think we should do it | 22:19 |
| ihrachys | right. I think we should do it (tag / dashboard in LP) / forbid any merges except those in list / critical | 22:19 |
| armax | I would not blame you if you did that :) | 22:19 |
| ihrachys | something for mlavalle to consider | 22:19 |
| armax | and btw | 22:19 |
| armax | 2 releases ago I was still in charge, are you saying that I did a lousy job? | 22:20 |
| armax | granted, Ocata was kinda weird cycle | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | armax, haha. no, we did | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | we were pushing late patches that were breaking even more things | 22:20 |
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| mlavalle | so let's follow this approach | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | I will create the necessary list at the end of this meeting | 22:21 |
| armax | ihrachys: things are never near to perfection when you need them to be! | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | armax: I might need some guidnace from you but I will do it | 22:21 |
| ihrachys | armax, you did great btw, all cycles | 22:21 |
| yamamoto | armax: do you have a script or something to automate -2 thing? | 22:22 |
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| ihrachys | mlavalle, ok. then I have some more candidates that are with +W right now that we should get in. | 22:22 |
| ihrachys | for example https://review.openstack.org/536367 that is a race in ovs agent | 22:22 |
| armax | yamamoto: no | 22:22 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: shoot | 22:22 |
| armax | I had a script that removed the -2s | 22:22 |
| ihrachys | also this https://review.openstack.org/499908 though it's probably not ready right now but I want to tackle it till final | 22:22 |
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| ihrachys | it's a bug we introduced in pike with writable mtu | 22:23 |
| armax | I was painstakingly reviewing the lot to make sure I wouldn’t had -2 unencessirly | 22:23 |
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| armax | though iirc henryG had a query that highlighted patches with DB migration and API extensions | 22:23 |
| armax | which typically should be the ones to be blocked or looked at carefully | 22:23 |
| ihrachys | actually that seems like all I have in my queue that is worthy getting early | 22:24 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: ack, we will keep track of those | 22:24 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: and what about this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537863/ ? | 22:25 |
| slaweq | is it important to mention it also here? | 22:25 |
| ihrachys | ah right that's a good one too | 22:25 |
| mlavalle | yes | 22:25 |
| ihrachys | and it's safe | 22:25 |
| slaweq | thx | 22:25 |
| mlavalle | actually, I just pushed it in | 22:26 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: thx | 22:26 |
| mlavalle | but will tag it so we track it actually meges | 22:26 |
| mlavalle | merges^^^^ | 22:26 |
| mlavalle | that's the point of the exercise, right? :-) | 22:27 |
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| mlavalle | anything else regarding release, ffes? | 22:28 |
| armax | none from me | 22:29 |
| yamamoto | will we block patches for neutron-tempest-plugin as well? | 22:29 |
| mlavalle | no, I don't think that is necessry | 22:29 |
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| mlavalle | in light of what we discussed at the beginning of the meeting | 22:30 |
| armax | mlavalle: +1 | 22:30 |
| armax | that said, we should not allow patches that might test stuff that is not landing asap | 22:30 |
| yamamoto | neutron-tempest-plugin changes can break the gate especially for subprojects | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | so maybe we should stop merging there | 22:31 |
| ihrachys | armax, I don't think you can even land it like that since we cross-gate | 22:31 |
| ihrachys | usually we just do depends-on | 22:32 |
| armax | ihrachys: sure, | 22:32 |
| armax | but in the past I was using -2 as a deterrent to keep the gate free-ish from non critical patches | 22:32 |
| ihrachys | yeah that's a consideration | 22:32 |
| ihrachys | especially since gate is quite sick lately | 22:33 |
| armax | might no longer be absolutely necesary nowadays | 22:33 |
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| ihrachys | I am trying to tackle issues one by one but it's fighing mills | 22:33 |
| ihrachys | *fighting | 22:33 |
| armax | I have never seen a gate not sick during relase crunch | 22:33 |
| mlavalle | ok, goods points | 22:33 |
| mlavalle | I'm convinced | 22:33 |
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| ihrachys | yeah, but we now also have zuulv3 misbehaving and meltdown slowdown | 22:33 |
| mlavalle | let's freeze merging also in the tempest plugin repo | 22:33 |
| ihrachys | so yeah, let's block as much as possible | 22:33 |
| mlavalle | let's play it as safe as possible | 22:34 |
| ihrachys | and aggressively revert non-compliant merges | 22:34 |
| ihrachys | when stable/queens is created we can get back to merges. | 22:34 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 22:34 |
| armax | that’s the plan | 22:34 |
| mlavalle | I will send a message to the ML also | 22:35 |
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| mlavalle | and will also reach to Daniel, to make sure there are no more patches on OVN side | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys seemed to have the impresion it was more than one | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | better to be over cautious than sorry | 22:36 |
| ihrachys | yeah though I could mixed things | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | I know | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | I am just playing it safe | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | it doesn't hurt to ask | 22:37 |
| ihrachys | + good | 22:37 |
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| mlavalle | ok | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | so let' | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | let's spend some time tackling RFEs | 22:38 |
| mlavalle | The first one in the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460 | 22:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah) | 22:38 |
| armax | before doing that | 22:38 |
| mlavalle | armax: go ahead | 22:38 |
| armax | mlavalle: this week is Rocky PTL self nomination | 22:38 |
| mlavalle | I think it's next week | 22:39 |
| armax | um | 22:39 |
| armax | this might be wrong then | 22:39 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/537918/ | 22:39 |
| ihrachys | it doesn't hurt to ask people caring to consider and check dates and think about it :) | 22:40 |
| armax | either way | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | armax: it seems you are right | 22:40 |
| armax | mlavalle: of course I am | 22:40 |
| armax | I am always right | 22:40 |
| armax | :) | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | at least per https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | armax: yeah, I know | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 22:40 |
| armax | irrespective of the date | 22:41 |
| armax | someone has to ponder on what to do :) | 22:41 |
| armax | mlavalle I suppose you’re far from being burned out | 22:41 |
| mlavalle | I intend to submit my candidaccy | 22:41 |
| armax | kwel | 22:41 |
| ihrachys | great, you can have the cake then | 22:41 |
| mlavalle | it's just that for some reason I thought it was next week | 22:41 |
| ihrachys | that would be a shame :) | 22:42 |
| mlavalle | thanks for slapping me out of my mistake ;-) | 22:42 |
| ihrachys | CNN headlines: openstack in disarray, neutron won't have a ptl, senate consultations ongoing | 22:42 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 22:42 |
| armax | FAKE NEWS! | 22:42 |
| armax | Potus ruined it for everyone :( | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's move on | 22:44 |
| mlavalle | the first RFE in the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460 | 22:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah) | 22:44 |
| mlavalle | it's a good thing that slaweq is here tonight | 22:44 |
| slaweq | I was reading this specs few days ago | 22:45 |
| mlavalle | so he can provide input to the conversation | 22:45 |
| slaweq | and to be honest I don't feel it | 22:45 |
| mlavalle | I want to mention that in May of last year, we approved a similar RFE | 22:45 |
| slaweq | author wants to add something like periodic monitoring of bandwidth, report it to neutron server and dynamically change QoS bandwidth limit values for ports in network | 22:46 |
| mlavalle | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 22:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:46 |
| mlavalle | that hasn't made much progress | 22:46 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: yes, and this similar rfe looks easier to do and more reasonable | 22:46 |
| slaweq | but it require to enable ECN in vm by user | 22:46 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, meaning like another daemon / thread in ovs agent that sniffs traffic? | 22:46 |
| mlavalle | at the time, we pre-approved contingent on spec | 22:46 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: that's what I understood from this specs | 22:47 |
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| ihrachys | I imagine sniffing will have enormous perf impact | 22:47 |
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| slaweq | so I don't know if it's good to put it in neutron - IMHO it's more like job for heat to switch bandwidth limits dynamically | 22:48 |
| ihrachys | good point | 22:49 |
| slaweq | so long story short, I'm not sure if https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460 should be done all in Neutron but maybe You will read this specs and will have different opinion | 22:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah) | 22:49 |
| slaweq | and according to reedip's https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 IMO this is fine | 22:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:49 |
| slaweq | so that's all what I can say about it :) | 22:50 |
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| ihrachys | I think we should suggest them to pursue the goal with an orchestrator on top like heat, and see what they have to say | 22:50 |
| mlavalle | and also unify the effort | 22:51 |
| mlavalle | we have two people writing very similar specs | 22:51 |
| mlavalle | which drains their bandwidth and the reviewers as well | 22:51 |
| mlavalle | right? | 22:51 |
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| ihrachys | they don't even seem similar no? | 22:51 |
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| ihrachys | that other RFE is for VMs to send ECN-tagged traffic | 22:52 |
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| ihrachys | here it's vice versa - you get signals from external network to punish VMs | 22:53 |
| ihrachys | amirite? | 22:53 |
| slaweq | to make ECN working it has to be enabled in whole path | 22:53 |
| slaweq | and reedip's change is about to enable ECN support in neutron routers and networks | 22:53 |
| slaweq | but to make this feature working in this case, VMs which send and receive traffic needs to enable ECN support also and that is not in the scope of this specs | 22:54 |
| slaweq | that is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 22:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:54 |
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| ihrachys | yeah that makes sense. neutron path would enable for / act on tags but wouldn't dynamically throttle | 22:55 |
| slaweq | and second one (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1708460) is about what to do on Neutron's side to not require enabling ECN support inside VM | 22:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1708460 in neutron " [RFE] Reaction to network congestion for qos" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Fouad Benamrane (ftreqah) | 22:55 |
| slaweq | but to limit bandwidth if necessary with QoS bandwidth limit rules | 22:56 |
| ihrachys | ok. I think it's fine to postpone the 'reaction' RFE and ask to work on reedip's one | 22:57 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: I agree with that | 22:57 |
| mlavalle | and not have two efforts competing for resources | 22:57 |
| mlavalle | ok, I think we have a plan for this one | 22:58 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: any thoughts? | 22:58 |
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| yamamoto | i need to read the old one | 22:59 |
| mlavalle | ok | 22:59 |
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| mlavalle | I assume that in principle we will postpone the 'reaction' RFE and propose continuwe working on Reedip's one | 23:00 |
| mlavalle | unless yamamoto opposes after reading | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 23:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 25 23:01:10 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-01-25-22.00.html | 23:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-01-25-22.00.txt | 23:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2018/neutron_drivers.2018-01-25-22.00.log.html | 23:01 |
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| mlavalle | thanks for attending | 23:01 |
| slaweq | thx, good night | 23:01 |
| yamamoto | thanks | 23:01 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: I hope you haven't tuened into the Hulk because it is so late for you :-) | 23:01 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: no :) | 23:02 |
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