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| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 04:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 10 04:30:55 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 04:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 04:30 |
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| phuoc_ | hi | 04:33 |
| gongysh | #topic roll call | 04:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 04:33 | |
| phuoc_ | o/ | 04:33 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, hi | 04:33 |
| longkb | o/ | 04:33 |
| YanXingAn | hi | 04:33 |
| gongysh | YanXingAn, hi | 04:34 |
| phuoc_ | YanXingAn, long time no see | 04:34 |
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| gongysh | #annoucement | 04:35 |
| gongysh | #topic annoucement | 04:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "annoucement (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 04:35 | |
| gongysh | 1. tacker will move from launchpad to openstack storyboard to manage tis task | 04:35 |
| gongysh | #link https://docs.openstack.org/infra/storyboard/migration.html | 04:36 |
| gongysh | #link https://storyboard-blog.io/ | 04:36 |
| gongysh | #link https://docs.openstack.org/infra/storyboard/migration.html | 04:36 |
| gongysh | I think the infra core will help us to move | 04:36 |
| phuoc_ | that's great | 04:37 |
| YanXingAn | Is this popular choice? | 04:37 |
| gongysh | yes | 04:37 |
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| YanXingAn | Great | 04:38 |
| gongysh | 2. I am on the list of individual board membership candidates, please vote me if you got an election ticker email. | 04:38 |
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| gongysh | thanks | 04:38 |
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| phuoc_ | I saw you on the election | 04:38 |
| longkb | gongysh: no problem :) | 04:39 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, thanks for the recomendation. | 04:39 |
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| gongysh | #topic bp | 04:40 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, do you have something to talk about your bps? | 04:40 |
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| phuoc_ | I tested my patch, it works for some simple scenarios | 04:41 |
| phuoc_ | when I update my bp, you can see fully the architecture of it | 04:41 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, cool | 04:41 |
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| haint | o/ | 04:42 |
| gongysh | ok | 04:42 |
| gongysh | look forward to that | 04:42 |
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| gongysh | haint hi | 04:42 |
| phuoc_ | haint, welcome :) | 04:42 |
| haint | How can I vote for the board membership? | 04:42 |
| gongysh | 2018-01-25 is the time for queens-3 | 04:43 |
| gongysh | we have to hurry up. | 04:43 |
| gongysh | haint, have you got a election ticket email? | 04:43 |
| gongysh | you should be able to see a link there. | 04:43 |
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| gongysh | if not, you may be not eligible this time. | 04:44 |
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| gongysh | second topic this the osc commands bp | 04:45 |
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| gongysh | if you guys have time for it, you can commit more commands according to my first template. | 04:46 |
| gongysh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/460483/ | 04:46 |
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| gongysh | this task needs many efforts. | 04:47 |
| gongysh | third bp is the updating vnffg mapping | 04:47 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513720/ | 04:47 |
| gongysh | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513720/ | 04:48 |
| gongysh | I have commented, the author is expected to update. thanks | 04:48 |
| phuoc_ | mardim is different timezone, I will contact to him | 04:48 |
| gongysh | these are active bps and code pathes. | 04:48 |
| gongysh | #topic open discussion | 04:49 |
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| gongysh | sorry, I forgot longkb's bp | 04:49 |
| gongysh | longkb, hi | 04:49 |
| longkb | hi :) | 04:49 |
| longkb | I made demo video for my proposal | 04:50 |
| gongysh | longkb, thanks | 04:50 |
| gongysh | is there url for it? | 04:50 |
| longkb | You guys can watch it on link: uys | 04:50 |
| longkb | https://youtu.be/7xzRaKVeikc | 04:50 |
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| gongysh | longkb, thanks | 04:51 |
| longkb | xuan0802 also wrote a basic functional test for our commit | 04:51 |
| gongysh | I will have a watch | 04:51 |
| tbh_ | gongysh: already voted for you | 04:51 |
| gongysh | longkb, is there a link? | 04:52 |
| gongysh | tbh_, thanks | 04:52 |
| longkb | #link: https://youtu.be/7xzRaKVeikc | 04:52 |
| gongysh | longkb, the basic functional test, I mean. | 04:52 |
| longkb | We didn't make video for it | 04:53 |
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| gongysh | longkb, the patch url is ok | 04:54 |
| gongysh | longkb, for the demo video link, you can even write it in the doc. | 04:54 |
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| haint | I'm Nguyen Hai in the launchpad. I'm new with Tacker and I registered some bp, how can I made it possible? | 04:55 |
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| gongysh | haint, easy, write a spec first. | 04:55 |
| longkb | gongysh: You can see patch URL for functional test in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529808/12 | 04:55 |
| gongysh | but we are moving to storyboard, you can wait for sometime and register the bp there. | 04:56 |
| gongysh | haint idea is welcome, but perfect if you can bring in some coding engineers. | 04:57 |
| gongysh | YanXingAn, hi | 04:57 |
| gongysh | do you have something to talk? | 04:58 |
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| YanXingAn | I’m outside of office | 04:58 |
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| YanXingAn | Nothing to say currently | 04:59 |
| longkb | gongysh: You can see patch URL for functional test in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529808/12 | 04:59 |
| gongysh | other guys? | 04:59 |
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| gongysh | longkb, thanks | 04:59 |
| gongysh | will | 04:59 |
| gongysh | if nothing, lets end the meeting. | 05:00 |
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| gongysh | before that, please see stroyboard doc to see how to work with it. | 05:00 |
| gongysh | #endmeeting | 05:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 10 05:00:37 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-01-10-04.30.html | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-01-10-04.30.txt | 05:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-01-10-04.30.log.html | 05:00 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 10 14:02:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 14:02 |
| daidv | o/ | 14:02 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 14:02 | |
| simon-AS559 | anseo! | 14:02 |
| bnemec | o/ | 14:02 |
| mugsie | simon-AS559: I feel like I am back in primary school :) | 14:03 |
| mugsie | #topic Announcements | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 14:03 | |
| mugsie | We are in final stages for q3 - so please start reviewing / cleaning up patches for this release | 14:03 |
| mugsie | #topic Bug Triage | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bug Triage (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 14:03 | |
| mugsie | No new bugs this week \o/ | 14:04 |
| mugsie | #topic Backport Triage | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Backport Triage (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 14:04 | |
| mugsie | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/642343/ | 14:05 |
| mugsie | please have a look at ^ and see if anything should be backported | 14:05 |
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| mugsie | I can't see anything that has not been backported already - anything anyone else saw? | 14:07 |
| mugsie | OK then :) | 14:07 |
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| mugsie | #topic Open Discussion | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Designate)" | 14:08 | |
| mugsie | any non agenda items? | 14:08 |
| mugsie | daidv: are the OVO patches going to be updated with the review feedback? | 14:08 |
| daidv | I have replied your comments and not updated yet. I'm waiting for you replied again | 14:09 |
| daidv | and the removing v1 API done :D | 14:09 |
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| daidv | After that, I will clean up my all OVO patches. | 14:10 |
| mugsie | OK, then I will try and get V1 done today / tomorrow | 14:10 |
| mugsie | and relook at your feedback | 14:10 |
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| mugsie | simon-AS559: you were looking for a -dashboard release weren't you? | 14:11 |
| mugsie | it has gone out from our side, not sure if it made it to ubuntu yet | 14:11 |
| simon-AS559 | Thanks, I'll check! | 14:11 |
| daidv | mugsie, thanks. | 14:11 |
| simon-AS559 | (Can't remember right now, too many cookies over xmas I guess.) | 14:11 |
| mugsie | :) | 14:12 |
| mugsie | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DUB-designate-PTG-planning | 14:12 |
| mugsie | please put ideas for the PTG discussions ^ | 14:12 |
| mugsie | and finally, the storyboard team has asked us to consider moving from launchpad -> storyboard | 14:13 |
| mugsie | is there any objections, (or people who want us to do it yesterday)? | 14:14 |
| mugsie | I am going to try a test migration later on, and I will post the link to -dev for people to play around with | 14:14 |
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| mugsie | OK - anything else for today? or do we want 45 mins back :) | 14:15 |
| bnemec | I saw something about people having reservations about the storyboard migration on -dev. | 14:15 |
| bnemec | Any idea what those were? | 14:15 |
| mugsie | bnemec: yeah - I was one of them. I think the bug / feature thing is too freeform (personally), and not having a set priority per bug (its done on a per action board basis) makes it confusing for me | 14:16 |
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| mugsie | but it seems it is the way the community is moving, so I didn't have biug enough reasons to block it outright | 14:17 |
| bnemec | Yeah, I guess in my other projects we mostly decided to wait until everyone moved. | 14:18 |
| bnemec | Otherwise it's gets confusing trying to track cross-project stuff. | 14:18 |
| bnemec | Maybe Designate doesn't have as much of that though. | 14:18 |
| bnemec | Oslo and TripleO kind of touch everything. :-) | 14:18 |
| mugsie | yeah - there is a lot more cross project stuff for them alright :) | 14:18 |
| mugsie | OK - lets see what the migration looks like, and we can decide | 14:19 |
| bnemec | Sounds good. | 14:20 |
| Zara | hi! :) the storyboard meeting is tonight at 19:00 UTC if anyone would like to attend | 14:20 |
| mugsie | Zara: cool, if I am still in the office, I will try to pop in | 14:20 |
| Zara | cool :) yeah we're probably in pretty different timezones... I'm interested to hear how the test migration goes! | 14:21 |
| Zara | feel free to ask any questions in #storyboard too | 14:21 |
| mugsie | One last thing - who is coming to Dublin for the PTG? | 14:22 |
| simon-AS559 | I am! | 14:22 |
| * bnemec will be there | 14:23 | |
| mugsie | cool - so it will not just be me on my own then :) | 14:23 |
| mugsie | OK - great meeting everyone! | 14:24 |
| mugsie | #endmeeting | 14:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 14:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 10 14:24:28 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-01-10-14.02.html | 14:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-01-10-14.02.txt | 14:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-01-10-14.02.log.html | 14:24 |
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| jungleboyj | #startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 10 16:00:39 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro | 16:00 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:01 |
| tommylikehu | hi | 16:01 |
| lhx_ | hi all | 16:01 |
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| pots | o/ | 16:01 |
| eharney | hi | 16:01 |
| erlon | hey | 16:01 |
| xyang | hi | 16:01 |
| amito | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Hello all. Do we have an smcginnis in the house? | 16:01 |
| tommylikehu | searching | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Processing .... Processing. | 16:02 |
| erlon | nop | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, well we will need to get started then as my flight boards in 30 minutes. :-) | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | I think this should be a short meeting though. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
| Swanson | hello | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:03 | |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: you had to say it... it will last forever now };-) | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | So, first, Happy New Year to everyone. Hope everyone had a great holiday. | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: :-p | 16:04 |
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| * patrickeast wanders in late | 16:04 | |
| jungleboyj | Wanted to make everyone aware that I released new versions of os-brick at the request of StorPool and Nova. | 16:04 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | I also did releases for stable/pike and stable/ocata to get some fixes out there. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | I need to take a look I think cinderclient might need one too. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | Will look before the end of the week here. | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | Moving on from announcements ... | 16:06 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: I had some issues with cinderclient and keystoneauth today. I'll check it once more tomorroe and let you know | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Rocky PTG | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky PTG (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:06 | |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Cool. Let me know. | 16:06 |
| * e0ne still uses cinderclient CLI | 16:07 | |
| jungleboyj | So, I know have the planning etherpad for the PTG put together: | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-rocky | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | If you are planning to attend, please add you name out there and start adding topics. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | I will organize the times and everything as we get closer to the PTG. | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | Also, we had talked in Denver about doing T-Shirts with the Cinder Logo. Are people still interested in doing that? | 16:08 |
| geguileo | e0ne: were your issues related to this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/1695054 | 16:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1695054 in python-cinderclient "AttributeError: 'Namespace' object has no attribute 'os_domain_id'" [High,Fix released] | 16:08 |
| e0ne | geguileo: yes, thanks for the link! | 16:08 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: +1 | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Ah, I have seen that as well. | 16:09 |
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| geguileo | e0ne: np, solution is unset OS_AUTH_TYPE | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Excellent! | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | #chair smcginnis | 16:09 |
| openstack | Current chairs: jungleboyj smcginnis | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Adding you in case I need to run. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | ++ | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | So, e0ne is interested in doing shirts. Anyone else? | 16:10 |
| amito | +1 | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Shirts would be cool! | 16:10 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: and stickers with old logo, please! | 16:10 |
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| jungleboyj | The Cinder block one? | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: | 16:10 |
| e0ne | yes | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Ok, not sure I have many of those left. Will look. If not I will work with smcginnis to get more. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | A cinder block dropping on a horse's head? Maybe a little too dark? :) | 16:11 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:11 |
| geguileo | lol | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | I will look into shirts and see if I can have something designed by next week's meeting based on the notes from Denver. | 16:11 |
| * smcginnis was channelling his inner Swanson | 16:11 | |
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| Swanson | smcginnis, What? Was looking for a Marathon Man dentist scene... | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Guessing that we will need some time to get the shirts made up. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj to get more Cinder Block stickers and to propose a t-shirt design. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Merged Specs without Reviews Associated | 16:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Merged Specs without Reviews Associated (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:13 | |
| jungleboyj | So, I just did a quick pass through the etherpad today and we have at least 3 specs that I don't see code reviews associated with. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | 1) Transfer snapshots with volumes | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | Which ones? | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | 2) Update cheesecake promotion spec | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | 3) Provisioning improvements | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | I swear I had seen code on 1, didn't have time to find it. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | For 2) is there going to be code changes associated or was that more just documentation? | 16:15 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: Im working on 3) | 16:15 |
| erlon | should post the code in the last minute :) | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Ok, I thought that was the case. Do you have anything you can link in the etherpad? | 16:15 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: not yet | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, let me know when you do have that up as we are running short on time. | 16:16 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: Ill gather thing here and post there | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Thank you. | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Keep in mind, non-client lib freeze is next week, so if there are any features that require os-brick changes, they better be quick ones. | 16:17 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: proposal freeze is 15 right? | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ^^ | 16:17 |
| e0ne | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I can't remember, what did you set spec freeze to? | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | Ah, yep, next week. | 16:18 |
| erlon | it says 15-19, so 19 I assume :p | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Thank you. Looks like it is the end of next week. | 16:18 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html#q-cinder-spec-freeze | 16:18 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: good | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | But a bit tricky with the lib freezes, so gotta keep that in mind. | 16:19 |
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| jungleboyj | I am going to spend a bit more time going through that etherpad tomorrow and will reach out to people with work pending. | 16:20 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: do we have any cinder or nova features depended on os-brick under development now? | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: None that I am aware of, but something we need to watch out for. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: I don't know of any either. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Will do. | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Same with anything needing python-cinderclient updates. That's the following week. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | So, I will follow up on 1 and 2 as I am not seeing anything for those merged specs either. | 16:21 |
| e0ne | we've got one more week for cinderclient release | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | Guess we can always back them out of Queens. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | We should plan on reverting or moving them to rocky if we don't see code soon. | 16:21 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ agreed. | 16:21 |
| tommylikehu | +1 | 16:22 |
| erlon | smcginnis: soon you men the proposal freeze? | 16:22 |
| e0ne | I'll propose my backups-related patches early in Rocky. I won't have a time to finish them in Queens but any feedback on current proposals are welcome | 16:22 |
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| tommylikehu | e0ne: sure | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | erlon: I just mean if there are approved specs but we don't have code for them yet, or if it looks like there will not be enough time to get code changes merged, we need to move them out of queens so it doesn't confuse anyone expecting to see those changes in the release. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So, I am going to keep watching this closely this week and we can touch base in next week's meeting. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | Anything else or can we move on to the last topic? | 16:24 |
| erlon | smcginnis: ok, it makes sense | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Should be good to move on. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | #topic RBD driver performance issues: | 16:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RBD driver performance issues: (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:24 | |
| jungleboyj | mnaser: You here? | 16:24 |
| mnaser | hola! | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | I think eharney has some background too. | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | Hola. Como estas? | 16:25 |
| mnaser | sorry that was my limit of spanish :) | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:25 |
| mnaser | so one of the things that we've ran into is very poor performance with the stats collection for cinder-volume with rbd | 16:25 |
| geguileo | mnaser: which release? | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. | 16:25 |
| geguileo | mnaser: because we've fixed that | 16:25 |
| mnaser | geguileo: pike (and i believe the issue is in master) | 16:26 |
| mnaser | geguileo: right, the fix still has a lot of performance issues which i wanted to dive into | 16:26 |
| geguileo | mnaser: I believe it's no longer in master, since my patches landed | 16:26 |
| mnaser | the code right now has this loop which goes over all the rbd volumes of a pool. in some cases, the pool might contain non cinder volumes | 16:26 |
| geguileo | mnaser: that's not a good deployment idea (sharing the pool) | 16:26 |
| mnaser | so for example, we might have a pool with 1600 rbd volumes, only 800 which are cinder volumes, yet it does iterate and gets the allocated size for all of them | 16:27 |
| erlon | mnaser: is that related to listing all volumes in every get stat? | 16:27 |
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| geguileo | mnaser: yes, because it needs to report that information | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, not a good idea to share pools. | 16:27 |
| geguileo | mnaser: otherwise it cannot report the information to Cinder | 16:27 |
| mnaser | (its a legacy mistake that's hard to fix at this point) | 16:27 |
| mnaser | but regardless, imagine we had 1600 cinder volumes in a single rbd poool | 16:27 |
| erlon | mnaser: how long are we talking about? to list all volumes? | 16:27 |
| geguileo | mnaser: well, we cannot change the driver to ignore those or we would be breaking the cinder contract | 16:27 |
| mnaser | it lists all volumes and then gets the sizes of all volumes, but the interesting thing here is that the number it gets really is pretty much the db size of the volume | 16:28 |
| mnaser | erlon: cpu rates are out of the roof and the loop blocks the main process from what it seems like | 16:28 |
| mnaser | so the agent reports down | 16:28 |
| geguileo | mnaser: but there are volumes that are not in the DB, and we need to return the total of all volumes (cinder and not cinder) | 16:28 |
| mnaser | and so volumes cannot be scheduled anymore | 16:28 |
| erlon | mnaser: hmm | 16:28 |
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| mnaser | geguileo: right, but based on your logic -- there shouldn't be any other volumes, so we can use the db number, and if there is, its a deployer issue. i'm not opposed to the loop, i just think that its currently blocking the agent from reporting up | 16:29 |
| geguileo | mnaser: with just 1600 volumes? r:-??? | 16:29 |
| erlon | geguileo: isnt a way to cache that? | 16:29 |
| mnaser | and so the agent goes down | 16:29 |
| erlon | geguileo: how acurate it needs to be? | 16:29 |
| geguileo | mnaser: No, a good deployment shouldn't share the pool, but if you share we have to report them all | 16:29 |
| mnaser | i mean, i did a small loop the other day and it took quite sometime. (manual bash for loop with rbd info) | 16:30 |
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| mnaser | now to imagine that this runs every x seconds it ends up making the agent report down | 16:30 |
| erlon | geguileo: +1 | 16:30 |
| geguileo | mnaser: the question was how long it took for cinder to get the data not running in bash (as they are different) | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | Could it be made configurable? | 16:30 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: No, or we go back to drivers not reporting the right data | 16:31 |
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| mnaser | my doubts are solidifed with the fact that the cinder-volume agent for the pool with low # of volumes would report up | 16:31 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: we just landed a spec making it very clear what needs to be reported | 16:31 |
| mnaser | maybe we need to take the reporting into a seperate thread? | 16:31 |
| geguileo | jungleboyj: and making it optional would make this driver non compliant | 16:31 |
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| jungleboyj | Oh, it is tied into that. Ok. | 16:31 |
| mnaser | i dont want to pull out code that does the job properly and correctly | 16:31 |
| erlon | mnaser: I think it is a separate thread currently, soft though | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: you are right | 16:32 |
| geguileo | mnaser: we should already be doing that | 16:32 |
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| geguileo | mnaser: using an eventlet proxy (though if we are not doing that it could be the problem) | 16:32 |
| mnaser | hmm, so there must be something that's causing it to lock up and report the agent as down | 16:32 |
| geguileo | mnaser: yup, looks like it | 16:32 |
| mnaser | so in my checking | 16:33 |
| geguileo | mnaser: I'll check it in my env and see if I see the same issue | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | Can we get someone from Red Hat to work with mnaser to debug this further. Doesn't sound like something we can solve in the meeting. | 16:33 |
| geguileo | mnaser: so 1600 volumes with only half belonging to Cinder, right? | 16:33 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:33 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: Yup, that's what I was getting at, I'll try to reproduce | 16:33 |
| mnaser | geguileo: yes, but i guess you can do 1600 volumes all cinder and i assume the same issue will occur | 16:33 |
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| smcginnis | geguileo: Cool, thanks. | 16:33 |
| geguileo | mnaser: OK, will try to reproduce | 16:33 |
| mnaser | geguileo: https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/master/cinder/volume/drivers/rbd.py#L492 fyi this is the call that when switched to =0 the agent would go up and have no problems | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: thank you for taking that. | 16:34 |
| mnaser | so it's within the _get_usage_info(). i'm always around on irc so please feel free to ping me anytime to further discuss this so we can improve the performance of the rbd driver. thank you everyone :) | 16:34 |
| geguileo | mnaser: will ping you as soon as I verify it | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | Thanks mnaser and geguileo. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | #action geguileo to help reproducing and debug | 16:35 |
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| jungleboyj | So is that all for that topic? | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | Nothing more from me. | 16:36 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic open discussion | 16:37 |
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| jungleboyj | Any other topics that people need to cover? | 16:37 |
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| jungleboyj | *crickets* | 16:38 |
| chandankumar | I have just refactored cinder tempest plugin | 16:38 |
| chandankumar | https://review.openstack.org/529824 | 16:38 |
| chandankumar | https://review.openstack.org/531206 -> zuulv3 based job before removing bundled intree tempest plugin | 16:38 |
| chandankumar | please have a look, | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | Cool. They can take a look at that. | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | Oh yeah, we need to get the in-tree tests removed. | 16:39 |
| chandankumar | one more thing do we want to publish cinder tempest plugin on pypi and want to doa tag release | 16:39 |
| chandankumar | if we do a tag release, it will be easier for RDO packages to consume and maintain easily | 16:39 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: was it you that had a patch out there for removal? I hadn't approved it cuz it wasn't clear that everything had been moved out of tree. | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: It was, but your comment was confusing so I asked for more info. :) | 16:40 |
| jungleboyj | Okay. I will follow up on that. | 16:41 |
| eharney | chandankumar: is the cinder-tempest-plugin repo going to have branches? | 16:41 |
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| chandankumar | eharney: nope | 16:41 |
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| smcginnis | I guess if we are following tempest, that means we follow that policy. | 16:41 |
| chandankumar | eharney: it is brnachless in nature | 16:41 |
| eharney | just curious | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | I don't really like that policy though. | 16:41 |
| eharney | also, an unrelated FYI: the driverfixes/newton and ocata branches are functioning again, and we've started landing patches | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | Thanks for sorting that out eharney! | 16:42 |
| tommylikehu | eharney: thanks | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: yay! Thank you for fixing that a | 16:42 |
| e0ne | eharney: great! | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | Just need some unit tests fixed in driverfixes/mitaka now. | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | Anything else for today? | 16:44 |
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| jungleboyj | So, what is the word on the tempest plugin? We tag it ot not | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | Sure :) | 16:45 |
| chandankumar | jungleboyj: thanks :-) | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ok, that is clear. | 16:46 |
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| jungleboyj | Yeah it with three release? | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | ? | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | *tag it with the release? | 16:46 |
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| jungleboyj | :-p | 16:46 |
| chandankumar | i mean a tag which will work with Queens one | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | Ah, yep. When a release is done it gets tagged. And just need to set it to publish to pypi. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Makes sense. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Anything else? | 16:48 |
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| Swanson | No. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Guess not. | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | thanks team. Talk to you all next week. | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | Safe travels jungleboyj | 16:49 |
| Swanson | Toodles. | 16:49 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: thank you. Will be good to be back home. | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 16:49 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 18:59 |
| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting Agenda | 19:00 |
| SotK | thanks for updating it diablo_rojo :) | 19:00 |
| diablo_rojo | No problem :) | 19:01 |
| diablo_rojo | I selfishly put a lot of things I was interested in it | 19:01 |
| SotK | I'll set a different topic for each of the in-progress items today since I think we have a need for more organised discussion | 19:01 |
| SotK | #topic Launchpad Migration | 19:01 |
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| diablo_rojo | So yeah, actually been doing a lot of stuff here. | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | Test migrated about a dozen projects over the holidays | 19:02 |
| SotK | \o/ | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | Starting to reach out to PTLs now. | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | Sent off four emails yesterday | 19:02 |
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| diablo_rojo | Got a response from Tacker saying they will discuss it | 19:03 |
| diablo_rojo | So thats cool. | 19:03 |
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| diablo_rojo | Still chatting a bit with TripleO, but I'm not sure how well that is going so I figured I would kick of Neutrons migration as an alternative 'big' project. | 19:03 |
| diablo_rojo | Its taking forever. | 19:03 |
| diablo_rojo | But hasnt crashed yet so thats nice. | 19:03 |
| SotK | yeah, I think that the speed is going to be very annoying for the bigger projects | 19:04 |
| SotK | its mostly constrained by launchpad's API though, so I don't know that there is much we can do | 19:04 |
| diablo_rojo | Even if they close bugs they still get migrated right? So its not like there is any way to cut down on the load. | 19:05 |
| SotK | yep, everything gets migrated | 19:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Yep so not much to do but run it in the background and pray it works. | 19:05 |
| persia | It would be possible to set a filter to not migrate, but in practice, the LP API is such that this wouldn't increase speed that much. | 19:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Heat's didnt work and I finally piped the output into a file to go through the logs. | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | persia, quite unfortunate | 19:06 |
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| diablo_rojo | Zara, SotK either of you ever see a 410: Gone User is suspended error? | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | I wondered if it had something to do with a lp user being booted or something? | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | No idea really. | 19:07 |
| mugsie | diablo_rojo: Designate discussed it today in our meeting | 19:07 |
| mugsie | (the migration) | 19:07 |
| SotK | I haven't, probably something we should catch and handle | 19:08 |
| SotK | shouldn't be too difficult to add | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo | Oh hello mugsie :) | 19:08 |
| mugsie | I am going to boot a test instance, and let people play with our data in it and see what they think | 19:08 |
| * fungi is around if needed, trying to keep up, but mostly patching servers | 19:08 | |
| diablo_rojo | mugsie, sounds good :) | 19:08 |
| Zara | yay! :) | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, have you ever seen anything like the issue I hit with heat? | 19:09 |
| Zara | I think I have seen that error before, and yeah it's from a user being banned iirc | 19:09 |
| diablo_rojo | can talk more about it later when you have free time if now's not good | 19:09 |
| Zara | the script should account for it. | 19:09 |
| mugsie | who is a nice infra-root / storyboard person to ask about a santitized dump of production data? | 19:09 |
| Zara | (er I mean in the future, it doesn't yet account for it but it should do really) | 19:09 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo: as far as migration speed... remember the import is idempotent and can be rerun incrementally, so it's just the final run which needs to complete before they switch but you can run multiple times prior to that | 19:09 |
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| diablo_rojo | fungi, can you get that for mugsie? or maybe clarkb? | 19:10 |
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| fungi | mugsie: sure, i've run them in the past for setting up storyboard-dev (we re-sync that from prod periodically) | 19:10 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, yeah okay I can look into a patch for the migration script for that. | 19:11 |
| fungi | manually not automagically | 19:11 |
| fungi | and no, i haven't seen the heat error you're referring to (was it quoted in here?) but regardless sounds like a known issuie | 19:11 |
| Zara | diablo_rojo: thanks! I think there is a story or task somewhere about handling errors in that script | 19:11 |
| mugsie | fungi: thanks :) | 19:12 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, cool, I will see if I can find that. | 19:12 |
| fungi | mugsie: there's probably not anything to redact since it uses openids, but i'll double-check | 19:12 |
| fungi | session tables and api tokens probably need filtering | 19:12 |
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| mugsie | I am pretty trustworthy, but yeah, API tokens are probably a bad idea to give me :) | 19:14 |
| clarkb | not to interrupt but how terrilble would it be if we rebooted storyboard.o.o and storyboard-dev.o.o in a short bit to pick up kernel patches? | 19:14 |
| clarkb | shouldn't be gone for more tha na couple minutes | 19:14 |
| SotK | fine by me | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | FIne by me | 19:15 |
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| persia | clarkb: A useful and on-topic interruption :) | 19:15 |
| fungi | no objection here | 19:15 |
| clarkb | ok you'll notice an outage in a few minutes | 19:15 |
| Zara | diablo_rojo: ah it was noted in the task notes on 'test i18n' here: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000876 | 19:16 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, got it. Thanks! | 19:16 |
| Zara | (so task was 4177 made as a result of that one) | 19:16 |
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| persia | My experience with the LP admins is that they generally only ban folk for either gross miconduct or explicit user request: in the case of 410 errors, the correct behaviour is probably to just not import that user. | 19:18 |
| clarkb | should be all done with reboots, thank you | 19:18 |
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| persia | (in that inviting those who have engaged in gross misconduct isn't best, and creating new accounts for folk that got mad at LP for doing that is likely to annoy them) | 19:19 |
| Zara | anything will be better than the current 'script errors and stops' | 19:20 |
| SotK | that means we need some kind of fallback user to assign as the creator of things that are being imported in their place | 19:20 |
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| persia | Is there a standard infra way to define role users that could be leveraged? | 19:20 |
| * SotK isn't sure, fungi? | 19:21 | |
| fungi | as in define a special "role user" who acts as a catch-all for importable stories with unimportable creators? | 19:21 |
| persia | fungi: Precisely. | 19:21 |
| fungi | no precedent i can think of. i'd just wing it | 19:21 |
| persia | Should be easy enough for the migration script to check for the existence of a "Launchpad Importer" user and create if it doesn't exist, then to use that. | 19:22 |
| SotK | yup | 19:24 |
| fungi | odds are they're just junk bugs anyway, but better to remain thorough | 19:24 |
| fungi | i know i've gutted and closed out my share of spam bug reports in lp over the years | 19:25 |
| persia | Indeed: most likely to be closed junk bugs, opened by the first class of banned users (as the second class usually never logged in, just complained in #launchpad or sent email, so were unlikely to have opened bugs). | 19:26 |
| SotK | +1 for being thorough | 19:27 |
| SotK | any other migration stuff to mention? | 19:28 |
| Zara | thanks for poking everyone, diablo_rojo! :) | 19:29 |
| Zara | that's all I got | 19:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, no problem :) | 19:29 |
| diablo_rojo | I..might be core? Thanks to clarkb's email? | 19:29 |
| clarkb | diablo_rojo: I haven't made it official in gerrit yet, but have only heard how good an idea it is so should just go get that done now | 19:30 |
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| Zara | hahaha | 19:30 |
| SotK | \o/ congrats diablo_rojo | 19:30 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks :) | 19:30 |
| Zara | congrats! | 19:30 |
| SotK | good to have you on the team :) | 19:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Happy to help :) | 19:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Though we be but small, we are mighty | 19:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Or something like that | 19:31 |
| Zara | now we can reveal that the promises of glamour and prestige were lies | 19:32 |
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| clarkb | ok added to storyboard-core and storyboard-webclient-core | 19:32 |
| clarkb | diablo_rojo: ^ hav efun :0 | 19:32 |
| clarkb | wow I fail at typing | 19:32 |
| persia | diablo_rojo: Congratulations! | 19:32 |
| diablo_rojo | clarkb, lol :) | 19:33 |
| diablo_rojo | persia, thanks :) | 19:33 |
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| Zara | there's also python-storyboardclient | 19:34 |
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| Zara | (and hm, I watch puppet-storyboard but no privs on that) | 19:35 |
| clarkb | oh indded there is a different core for that one, adding now | 19:36 |
| clarkb | done | 19:37 |
| diablo_rojo | Whoop whoop :) | 19:37 |
| Zara | thanks :) | 19:37 |
| SotK | thanks clarkb | 19:37 |
| SotK | #topic GUI Manual | 19:37 |
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| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325474/ | 19:38 |
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| diablo_rojo | So, I think we really need something like this for those that are scared to actually try the tool. Cause I get a lot of questions about how to do things before people even go to try it. | 19:38 |
| diablo_rojo | I totally understand how these aren't the easiest to keep up to date though. | 19:39 |
| Zara | it's currently inaccurate. once someone sends an accurate version, I would not block that. | 19:39 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, okay cool. I will add updating that to my todo list then. | 19:39 |
| Zara | okay. the content hasn't been updated since mid 2016 and it was inaccurate then, so it could be quite a bit of work, but there are detailed review comments at last ! :D | 19:40 |
| * SotK would also be happy to not block a version that addresses Zara's review comments | 19:40 | |
| SotK | (though I'd prefer for it to be in openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient, that will mean more work setting up docs generation for that repo) | 19:41 |
| Zara | I can see the reasoning for it; personally I'd prefer we got the gui into a state where it didn't need a manual, but I'm happy to go with the community if others want it. but yeah I don't feel comfortable merging it yet. | 19:42 |
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| persia | As an accurate guide is developed, if something seems particularly awkward, it probably makes sense to just fix it, rather than trying to document around it. Also, when developing a guide, it is important to use a range of resolutions, as the frameworks move some bits around depending on how the tool is viewed. | 19:42 |
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| Zara | yeah, in the meantime we have some non-centralized docs (also linked in the review) that might be useful for folk. The blog isn't exactly docs, but it has a lot of screenshots! | 19:44 |
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| persia | For another project in which I am involved, someone complained about needing to piece together instructions from a collection of blog posts: might just be a presentation thing, but I would be unsurprised if some of the SB audience feared docs-in-blog for some reason. | 19:45 |
| Zara | I agree those should make their way somewhere more official. Does mean any docs should mostly be a question of copy-pasting the blogposts though | 19:46 |
| SotK | yeah, I'd like to have the "docs" currently on the about page and on the blog consolidated in the documentation in the storyboard repo | 19:46 |
| persia | Or maybe the storyboard-webclient repo? | 19:46 |
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| persia | And, yes, I think the docs-in-blog problem is about the word "blog", rather than the content. | 19:47 |
| SotK | I think an explanation of the concepts themselves belongs with the API, since that is the core of storyboard | 19:47 |
| persia | Fair. | 19:47 |
| SotK | yeah, I agree | 19:47 |
| Zara | (the kind of worry I have with inaccurate docs is that is if we have docs saying 'a story is in a project', then we get questions in channel about why stories aren't laid out under projects. stories are cross-project. that's a hard thing to explain.) | 19:47 |
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| persia | This is part of how the LP API and data model became so messy: preconceptions about relations caused a model that tried to satisfy many expectations (and ended up slow and annoying) | 19:48 |
| Zara | the stories-tasks-projects relation is something I find myself explaining over and over again, becuase it's different to other task-trackers (woo cross project!) and it's not immediately obvious. | 19:49 |
| persia | If good language about the data model can exist, putting that in authoritative docs may help people understand that "a story has tasks in projects" doesn't mean "only create a story that affects more than one project". | 19:49 |
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| Zara | we even have diagrams | 19:50 |
| persia | Zara: Amusingly, LP itself is one of the most cross-project friendly task trackers available, and theoretically many OpenStack migrants are used to working with LP. | 19:50 |
| Zara | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000667 | 19:50 |
| fungi | yes, the cross-projectness of lp was one of the required features we put into the sb spec from the beginning | 19:50 |
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| SotK | I think its the fact that stories are independent of projects that causes confusion, more than cross-project support specifically | 19:51 |
| fungi | as almost no other trackers have similar support for a bug being applicable to multiple projects without ugly hacks like cloning bugs (i'm looking at you, debbugs) | 19:51 |
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| Zara | SotK: yeah, the two are related imo. | 19:51 |
| SotK | people talk about "stories in project" since that is how the data is presented in the UI, but that comes with an implication that stories directly relate to projects (not helped by the fact that they do in many other things) | 19:52 |
| SotK | s/projects/a project/ | 19:52 |
| Zara | and the UI is steadily moving away from that representation aiui | 19:52 |
| Zara | possibly complicated by a desire for templates | 19:53 |
| * persia thinks Fig 3 of story 20000667 is one of the most expressive ways of showing the data model that exists today | 19:53 | |
| SotK | Zara: hm, I'm not so sure, I don't have any intention to change https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/456 very much for example | 19:53 |
| persia | I think UI support for "show all the stories with open tasks against project X" is critical for triagers and patch authors alike. | 19:54 |
| SotK | fig 3 is indeed nice | 19:54 |
| SotK | #link https://i.imgur.com/Gt31KXM.png Fig 3 | 19:55 |
| persia | Perhaps better support for taskless stories (with a UI path) might be useful, to help those users that wish to approach from the right on fig 3. | 19:55 |
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| SotK | persia: I agree, but to someone unfamiliar with the model that page looks a lot like "show all the stories in project X" I suspect | 19:56 |
| SotK | and yeah, support for that would probably help | 19:56 |
| persia | It does. I don't know of a way to make it not look like that without making it hard to reach (which would be bad) | 19:57 |
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| SotK | since I expect it will improve understanding that stories can be detached from projects entirely | 19:57 |
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| SotK | me neither (or hard to make sense of at a glance, which would also be bad) | 19:57 |
| Zara | (also haha memories, I have the original paper draft of fig 3 on my desk rn :D) | 19:58 |
| SotK | we are almost out of time, I'm happy to continue discussions in #storyboard if people want | 19:58 |
| persia | I also don't really like the idea of "show me all the tasks for project X" as being a first-class view, simply because many tasks don't make sense without the context of a story. | 19:58 |
| SotK | +1 | 19:58 |
| Zara | ime it mainly comes up for specific teams | 19:59 |
| Zara | so might be better to do it for teams directly | 19:59 |
| Zara | eg: foo-project bugsquash bugs team | 19:59 |
| SotK | the current view is the correct one, but sadly is potentially confusing | 19:59 |
| SotK | right, -> #storyboard | 19:59 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 19:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 10 19:59:33 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-01-10-18.59.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-01-10-18.59.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-01-10-18.59.log.html | 19:59 |
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| notmyname | swift team meeting time | 21:00 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 10 21:00:40 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o. | 21:00 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | I know torgomatic won't be here today | 21:01 |
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| acoles | sorry I'm late | 21:01 |
| notmyname | not late. just starting :-) | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | cschwede: clayg: ping | 21:01 |
| clayg | thanks! | 21:01 |
| mathiasb | o/ | 21:01 |
| notmyname | oh hi mathiasb! | 21:02 |
| joeljwright | o/ | 21:02 |
| joeljwright | Happy New Year! | 21:02 |
| mathiasb | hi notmyname! | 21:02 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ping | 21:02 |
| tdasilva | hello | 21:02 |
| notmyname | all right, let's get started | 21:02 |
| notmyname | agenda is at | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:03 |
| notmyname | starting not-from-the-top because of time zones | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | #topic swift-ring-builder exit code | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "swift-ring-builder exit code (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:03 | |
| notmyname | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1742417 | 21:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1742417 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "swift-ring-builder exit code changed from 0 to 1 for empty rings" [High,Confirmed] | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | what's up here? cschwede? clayg? | 21:03 |
| rledisez | hi o/ | 21:03 |
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| clayg | i think we were waiting on the gate - then there's a pep8 thing | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | which patch? | 21:04 |
| clayg | if cschwede is off once mattoliverau 's patch lands tim and I can land the other one and then we're done | 21:04 |
| notmyname | cool | 21:04 |
| notmyname | and response codes stay as they were? | 21:04 |
| clayg | matt's patch is 530839 | 21:04 |
| notmyname | s/response/exit | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | oh my patch hasn't landed yet. | 21:04 |
| timburke | exit codes | 21:04 |
| timburke | yeah :-) | 21:04 |
| timburke | nope :-( | 21:04 |
| notmyname | patch 530839 | 21:04 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530839/ - swift - Show devices marked as deleted on empty rings | 21:05 |
| clayg | notmyname: well pete pointed out that exit code will change for the place we were thorwing stack - but that was a different bug - not an intentional reason to error | 21:05 |
| timburke | that one's at least making its way through the gate now | 21:05 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:05 |
| clayg | then there's the meta point that two different states resulting in similar output and exit codes somewhat reduces the overall level of entropy in the universe - which you can argue for or against | 21:05 |
| notmyname | IIRC infra was doing some reboots and stuff for the recent kernel bugs, so I guess the gate is a little slow right now | 21:05 |
| clayg | stupid meltdown | 21:06 |
| timburke | at least it's well-named | 21:06 |
| notmyname | sounds like this topic is all sorted then. I thought cschwede would be here (but it's late for him) | 21:06 |
| notmyname | so let's assume he's out for now, and timburke and clayg will take care of the follow-on to mattoliverau's patch | 21:07 |
| notmyname | anything else to address on this one? | 21:07 |
| clayg | s'ok - he knows we got his back (sorry to but you up cschwede - thanks for the quick fixup!) | 21:07 |
| clayg | *bust you up | 21:07 |
| notmyname | go team swift! :-) | 21:07 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:08 |
| notmyname | ok. on to the next topic | 21:08 |
| notmyname | #topic SLO data segments | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | is it merged yet? | 21:08 |
| notmyname | no :-( | 21:08 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365371/ | 21:08 |
| joeljwright | :( | 21:08 |
| patchbot | patch 365371 - swift - Add support for data segments to SLO and Segmented... | 21:08 |
| notmyname | however, it's probably better than ever now! | 21:08 |
| notmyname | I started looking at it yesterday some, and it looks like kota_ added some comments | 21:08 |
| joeljwright | Kota left some comments, and it's definitely getting better! | 21:09 |
| kota_ | yup | 21:09 |
| notmyname | kota_: do you have oustanding questions in your review? doesn't look like it | 21:09 |
| joeljwright | looked like _kota was going away for a proper look | 21:10 |
| notmyname | ah. you're still looking and ... yeah | 21:10 |
| joeljwright | kota_ even | 21:10 |
| notmyname | ok, great. thanks kota_ | 21:10 |
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| kota_ | notmyname: yeah, i need to get more detail on the imple | 21:10 |
| notmyname | yeah, I'm in the same boat | 21:11 |
| notmyname | (yay american? idioms in an international meeting!) | 21:11 |
| notmyname | #topic s3api work status | 21:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "s3api work status (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:11 | |
| kota_ | the base idea looks good to me but i feel like i want to cleanup the code to generalize on the inline data / normal case. | 21:11 |
| notmyname | kota_: tdasilva: what's going on with the s3api work? | 21:11 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: looked like you'd been doing some work there this week | 21:11 |
| timburke | i'd just like to point out that poor joeljwright has had this open for more than a year now -- and while it'd be nice if we didn't need to shove bytes into a var named "seg_req" and the like, it might be better to address some things in follow-ups | 21:11 |
| notmyname | timburke: +1 | 21:12 |
| joeljwright | thanks timburke :) | 21:12 |
| tdasilva | notmyname, kota_ I really haven't and i'm sorry :( but today I proposed the WIP I was doing to merge func test | 21:12 |
| tdasilva | hoping i can get back to it | 21:12 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: never mind and thx to be working on it | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | ok. because of people temporarily stepping away from some upstream work over the last couple of months, we expected that this s3api work would slip | 21:13 |
| kota_ | i also have small progress... 1 sec | 21:13 |
| notmyname | so it's not a surprise (or shouldn't be to anyone) | 21:13 |
| notmyname | kota_: great! | 21:13 |
| kota_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529268/ | 21:13 |
| patchbot | patch 529268 - swift (feature/s3api) - Avoid global LOGGER instance | 21:13 |
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| kota_ | and i noticed timburke already commented to it, so i should circle back to address. | 21:14 |
| tdasilva | nice :) | 21:14 |
| kota_ | that's all since the last meeting in the last year. | 21:15 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | #topic general task queue | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general task queue (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:15 | |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: rledisez: any updates on this right now? | 21:16 |
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| rledisez | not on my side | 21:16 |
| mattoliverau | We've landed the internal client required patch | 21:16 |
| kota_ | nice | 21:16 |
| m_kazuhiro | I'm making unit tests now. | 21:16 |
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| mattoliverau | I promised to look at the current state of the expirer patch.. which I'll try and get done today.. if work gives me the time | 21:16 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:17 |
| notmyname | that all sounds good | 21:17 |
| m_kazuhiro | I will finish to make all tests in this week. | 21:17 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: great! | 21:17 |
| notmyname | #topic container sharding | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "container sharding (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:17 | |
| notmyname | another update thing. acoles? mattoliverau? | 21:17 |
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| mattoliverau | progress has been a little slow over the holiday period. But things are starting to pick up again. | 21:18 |
| notmyname | this is what I think is the top priority Big Thing in swift right now. where are we? | 21:18 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: what's next? | 21:18 |
| mattoliverau | we've worked on some api changes that makes things simpler and easier to grok | 21:18 |
| notmyname | ok. internal api changes? | 21:19 |
| notmyname | changes on what? | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | acoles has been awesome at adding more tests for things like his shrinking alg and some race conditions | 21:19 |
| acoles | notmyname: also I just wrote a proposed simplification tradeoff https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/deep-container-listing | 21:19 |
| mattoliverau | the way we ask for shardranges that include an given object | 21:19 |
| acoles | we've fixed some races between sharding and shrinking, fixed some listing issues | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | sounds good | 21:20 |
| clayg | acoles: was going over this with me this am - i love the plan - phase 1 is to leverage stale container listings during cleaving FTW! we should focus on the data model and persistence layer for correctness | 21:20 |
| notmyname | acoles: on that etherpad, what do you need fromt he rest of us? | 21:20 |
| notmyname | clayg: ah ok | 21:20 |
| mattoliverau | changing the names for root containers and sharding shard containers. so an op can tell what are suppose to be root containers and what should only be short lived sharding containers | 21:20 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: that sounds good | 21:20 |
| acoles | notmyname: basically the trade off comes down to simpler code if we can live with container listings being a little behind *while sharding* | 21:21 |
| acoles | (vs them being a little behind because your container is so large it can't eat all the updates) | 21:22 |
| notmyname | sounds good to me ;-) | 21:22 |
| mattoliverau | ironically, sounds identical to what I did originally.. ie use stale before I added the complicated stuff, which is hard to grok :P | 21:22 |
| notmyname | but yeah. that's a good thing to think on | 21:22 |
| clayg | acoles: which is basically the same as "do you want it to work or do you have puppies" | 21:22 |
| clayg | rats... *hate puppies | 21:22 |
| acoles | clayg: either works for me :O | 21:22 |
| mattoliverau | but am totally cool with that.. we need it less hard to grok, and acoles is much smarter then i ;) | 21:22 |
| acoles | not | 21:23 |
| notmyname | acoles: do you need feedback on that etherpad? or is this the plan and it will be morphed into some docs page and the rest of us can use it to keep up? | 21:23 |
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| acoles | so opinions on that etherpad if anyone feels this is dumbing down too much, but TBH its more about the process of steps we take to get something simpler and robust, then build in more smarts | 21:23 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:24 |
| acoles | notmyname: its design choice not docs, feedback from mattoliverau timburke torgomatic if they have time which an be as simple as 'ok' (or not) | 21:24 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:25 |
| mattoliverau | well sharding/cleaving very large containers would be a pain.. but they should only happen once.. once sharding is on, sharding will be much quicker, so we shohuld really cater for the "normal" smaller sharding case. So KISS makes so much sense. Big containers can just lag while we shard | 21:25 |
| notmyname | is there anything else we need to cover on this topic in the meeting today? | 21:25 |
| acoles | and, I also have a monster patch chain on feature/deep with head being https://review.openstack.org/532604 that at some point would be good to get reviewed | 21:25 |
| patchbot | patch 532604 - swift (feature/deep) - WIP Don't attempt to merge root and shard listings... | 21:25 |
| mattoliverau | I for one will look at the etherpad today | 21:25 |
| acoles | the chain is partly because I have broken changes into digestible chunks since it encompasses quite significant changes overall | 21:26 |
| notmyname | acoles: that big "WIP" at the top is a "don't review me sign", right? ;-) | 21:26 |
| acoles | notmyname: yes but only on that last patch in the chain | 21:26 |
| notmyname | ok :-) | 21:27 |
| acoles | the rest is ready | 21:27 |
| notmyname | sounds good | 21:27 |
| notmyname | two more topics, I think | 21:27 |
| notmyname | #topic next swift release (2.17.0) | 21:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "next swift release (2.17.0) (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:27 | |
| notmyname | bundling all this stuff we talked about, we shoudl release soon(-ish) | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 21:28 |
| notmyname | ^^ that page is updated with some important patches | 21:28 |
| notmyname | it also has listed a couple of high priority bug that don't have patches. they need triaged at least | 21:28 |
| notmyname | patch 531527 and patch 530411 are the most important, I think (bugs affecting production) | 21:29 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531527/ - swift - proxy: make the right number of container updates | 21:29 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530411/ - swift - Fix socket leak on 416 EC GET responses. | 21:29 |
| timburke | that should probably also include a slew of torgomatic's recent patches to do with how terrible x-delete-after + EC is | 21:29 |
| acoles | notmyname: do any more of torgomatics patches need to be on there? | 21:29 |
| notmyname | yes! | 21:29 |
| notmyname | timburke: acoles: can one of you add them please? | 21:29 |
| notmyname | I'd *really* like to see the SLO data segments patch land too | 21:29 |
| acoles | notmyname: yep will do tomorrow | 21:30 |
| notmyname | thank you | 21:30 |
| notmyname | thinking of this release, it reminds us to look at the openstack release cycle schedule | 21:30 |
| notmyname | the queens release is sneaking up on is | 21:30 |
| timburke | p 532595 p 532383 p 532342 p 531527 | 21:30 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532595/ - swift - Fix object POST of X-Delete-At with skewed clocks | 21:30 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532383/ - swift - Don't make async_pendings during object expiration | 21:30 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532342/ - swift - Limit object-expirer queue updates on object DELET... | 21:30 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531527/ - swift - proxy: make the right number of container updates | 21:30 |
| notmyname | our deadline for the last tag of queens is February 19 | 21:30 |
| timburke | speaking of swift releases, we haven't had a *client* release since july. not much has landed in the meantime, but we might want to thing about landing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/478611/ and cutting a release there, too | 21:30 |
| patchbot | patch 478611 - python-swiftclient - Allow for object uploads > 5GB from stdin. | 21:30 |
| notmyname | so a 2.17.0 release has a reasonable chance of being the last of the queens cycle. there's a chance we could do a .1 release closer to the deadline | 21:31 |
| notmyname | timburke: agreed. I'll look in to it. thanks for bringing it up | 21:31 |
| notmyname | I'm hoping to tag a swift release next week | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | there's not a hard deadline on that, but it's what i'm hoping for | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | is there any question about an upcoming release? | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | if there's other stuff that needs to land (like torgomatic's expiry patches), please let me know or add them to the priority reviews page | 21:33 |
| mattoliverau | only cschwede's ringbuilder fix, but lets try and get that in before he wakes up as a nice surprise ;) | 21:34 |
| notmyname | right :-) | 21:34 |
| notmyname | ok, let's move on then | 21:34 |
| notmyname | #topic PTG in dublin | 21:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG in dublin (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:34 | |
| notmyname | last topic (from me) | 21:34 |
| notmyname | the PTG is coming soon, as well | 21:34 |
| notmyname | does anyone know for sure yet if they are NOT coming? | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | good. I'll expect to see everyone there, then ;-) | 21:35 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ everyone _might_ be coming :P | 21:35 |
| timburke | ALL OF YOU | 21:35 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:35 |
| kota_ | lol | 21:35 |
| notmyname | I think we'll start thinking about topics in a few weeks | 21:36 |
| timburke | i'm guessing joeljwright not being there is a fairly safe bet? | 21:36 |
| notmyname | probably :-( | 21:36 |
| joeljwright | yeah, sorry | 21:36 |
| clayg | yay joeljwright ! | 21:36 |
| notmyname | I'm hoping to get some support people from swiftstack to come, too. I'd love to put them in a room with tdasilva and rledisez and onovy and see what kind of magic happens :-) | 21:37 |
| timburke | hey, gotta store all those ML training sets *somewhere* though, right? | 21:37 |
| joeljwright | hahahaha | 21:37 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:37 | |
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| notmyname | anythign else to bring up in the meeting this week? | 21:37 |
| rledisez | notmyname: can't wait to meet your support team ;) | 21:37 |
| joeljwright | I do keep mentioning swift when we need checkpoint storage | 21:37 |
| joeljwright | who knows... | 21:37 |
| notmyname | rledisez: I really do hope it happens :-) | 21:37 |
| timburke | in looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528106/ (which is a GREAT plan, i LOVE this idea), i've become appalled by our lack of coverage for CORS. i'm working on throwing together some single-page-app-style test suite where you run a bunch of bash, host the page with `python -m SimpleHTTPServer`, then visit the page and verify that everything's green | 21:38 |
| patchbot | patch 528106 - swift - Move CORS to middleware. | 21:38 |
| timburke | soo... that'll be a thing | 21:38 |
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| notmyname | actually having some functional tests for CORS will be fantastic | 21:38 |
| acoles | notmyname: priority review page updated with expiring object patches | 21:39 |
| clayg | timburke: you're gunna host what *where* now!? | 21:39 |
| clayg | is that a probetest thing? | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | timburke: cool, honestly CORs confuses me, so thank you for looking into it.. you too Sam ;) | 21:39 |
| clayg | ^ +1 | 21:39 |
| notmyname | acoles: thanks | 21:39 |
| timburke | clayg: *you're* gonna host it! on localhost! it'll be great | 21:39 |
| timburke | and then we'll have javascript in our repo, and we'll all cry about it | 21:40 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:40 |
| clayg | oh dear | 21:40 |
| notmyname | there's not much that demonstrates the different skill sets of a "front-end engineer" from a "back-end engineer" than trying to understand the CORS spec and implement it | 21:40 |
| timburke | or, it'll be some external project and even *less* likely to be run | 21:40 |
| notmyname | all right. anything else, or are we done for this week? | 21:41 |
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| notmyname | it's really great to see everyone back from holidays and have everyone back working on swift! thanks for all the work you do to make it a great project and great community | 21:42 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 21:42 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 10 21:42:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-01-10-21.00.html | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-01-10-21.00.txt | 21:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-01-10-21.00.log.html | 21:42 |
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