Friday, 2017-12-08

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ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting02:31
openstackMeeting started Fri Dec  8 02:31:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.02:31
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.02:31
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ekcshi all!02:31
ekcstopics here as usual. please read/comment/add as needed! https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics02:31
masahitohi02:31
ekcshi masahito !02:31
ekcshow have you been?02:32
masahitogood.02:32
ekcsgreat.02:32
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ramineni_ekcs: hi02:33
ekcshi ramineni_ !02:33
ekcstopics here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics02:33
ekcslet’s dive in then.02:34
ekcs#topic queens-202:34
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ekcsjust a quick announcement. server, dashboard, and client (1.9.0) released.02:34
ekcsthe exact commits are listed in the topics etherpad.02:34
ekcswe needed to do a client release so we can make the new client version a requirement to congress dashboard, to support the policy library stuff.02:35
ekcsbig thanks to ramineni_ for getting all the policy library stuff done in dashboard. it looked great when I tested it before release.02:36
ramineni_Ok, so we need to propose to global-requiremenys then?02:36
ekcsramineni_: yes I think so. bumping the version to 1.9.002:36
ramineni_ekcs: thanks :)02:36
ramineni_ekcs: ok02:36
ekcsramineni_: I can take care of that.02:37
ekcsanything to talk about on queens-2?02:37
ekcsWe’re making good progress on our priority list.02:37
ramineni_Just one more update .. congress tempest plugin repo is created now ..I'm in progress to add the jobs and so some testing02:38
ekcsthat’s right. great progress!02:38
ramineni_So we will better hold off any tempest patches for now02:38
ramineni_?02:39
ramineni_In congress repo and propose to new repo once done ?02:39
ekcsramineni_: whatever you think is best way to go.02:39
ekcsI don’t understand how it works =p02:39
ramineni_ekcs: ok .. will take care of that :)02:40
ekcsso should I make sure not to merge anything affecting tempest in the mean time?02:40
ekcsI think the only one is security group attach/detach patch.02:40
ramineni_2 patches are there .. one config one also02:41
ekcsoh that’s right.02:41
ekcswe can definitely hold off on merging those if that’s helpful.02:41
ramineni_I'll check on the best way to merge these .. so we will hold off for a bit02:42
ekcsgreat.02:42
ramineni_I'll inform by next meeting02:42
ekcsperfect.02:42
ekcsok moving on then?02:42
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ramineni_Ok02:42
ekcs#topic PTG02:43
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ekcsnext one is scheduled for February 26-March 2nd at Croke Park in Dublin, Ireland02:43
ekcsas usual we need to decide whether to hold sessions there.02:43
ekcsany thoughts on the topic?02:43
ekcsI also sent out a message on ML you can respond to later.02:44
ramineni_I may not be able to make it ..I'll join virtually mostly this time02:44
ekcsgot it.02:44
masahitoI'll be there because of other project meeting.02:44
ekcsmasahito: got it. for blazar?02:44
masahitoso either virtual/physical works for me.02:44
masahitoekcs: yes. mainly for blazar02:45
ekcsmasahito: got it. would you prefer virtual sessions for congress another time or prefer sessions at the PTG? partly depends on how much conflict there would be for you?02:46
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masahitoIf it's okay for others, I prefer PTG week.02:47
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ekcsok got it. good to know the preferences.02:47
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masahitoOf course, another time is also okay.02:48
ekcsgot it.02:48
ekcsok moving on from PTG then?02:48
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ekcs#topic open discussion02:50
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ekcsok I don’t have much else we need to talk about. anything else on our minds?02:50
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ramineni_don't have any from my side02:51
ekcsoh ramineni_ thanks for the email on driver conf. I’ll be responding today =)02:51
ramineni_Ok great .. thanks02:52
masahitonothing from my side02:52
ekcscool short and sweet meeting then.02:52
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ramineni_And also on install guide ..it would be good to have ..as deployers might check for those tags ..02:52
ekcsoh right.02:53
ramineni_But it's fine we can take it late ..as only documentation02:53
ramineni_We will have time post queens302:53
ramineni_I suppose02:53
ekcsyea that makes sense.02:54
ekcsdoes either of you have some indication as to whether having the install guide tag is important?02:54
ekcsas in like is to “nice to have” or “quite helpful”?02:54
ekcsI personally have no idea. love to hear any understanding or even just guesses.02:55
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ramineni_Not sure much ..but if it increases project maturity or rating in navigator .. then we can priority ..but I'm also not sure02:56
ekcsI guess it looks bad if it looks like we DON’T have an install guide period. But then again I’m expecting most people to go through one of the installers. like what OOO provides. ansible I think.02:57
ekcsmasahito: do you have any sense?02:57
masahitoI can see install guide in Congress's doc site. https://docs.openstack.org/congress/latest/install/index.html02:59
masahitoIs there a tag related to install guide?02:59
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ekcsyea there is a tag.03:00
ramineni_masahito: yes , in project navigator it will be visible03:00
ekcsbut we’d need to spend some time testing and mtweaking for RH and SUSE03:00
ekcstag like this: https://www.openstack.org/software/releases/ocata/components/nova03:01
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ekcsok well. we can figure it out later. doing it post queens-3 sounds ok =)03:04
masahitoIMO, the kind of tag is nice to have but hard to be supported by enterprise package.03:04
ekcsmasahito: what do you mean supported? the tag doesn’t mean they support us. just means we have an install guide for that distribution.03:05
masahitooh, I see. I thought we can put the tag once their enterprise packages support congress.03:06
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ekcsok well. seems we’ve covered everything we want to talk about.03:08
ekcslet’s continue next week then =)03:08
ekcsthanks all!03:08
masahitothanks03:09
ramineni_Thanks all ..see u next week03:09
ekcsbye.03:09
ekcs#endmeeting03:09
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ZacharyMazuul always report timeout07:33
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ZacharyMa_#startmeeting neutron_qos07:48
openstackMeeting started Fri Dec  8 07:48:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ZacharyMa_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:48
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.07:48
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ZacharyMa#openstack-meeting08:03
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ZacharyMa#startmeeting daisycloud08:06
openstackZacharyMa: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.08:06
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mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_drivers14:00
openstackmlavalle: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.  Use #endmeeting first.14:00
mlavalleis the previous meeting still going on?14:00
slaweqhi14:01
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amotokii think everyone can end a meeting14:01
amotoki#endmeeting14:01
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mlavalle#endmeeting14:01
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-08-07.48.html14:01
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-08-07.48.txt14:01
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2017/neutron_qos.2017-12-08-07.48.log.html14:01
amotokiyay14:01
mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_drivers14:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Dec  8 14:01:38 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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mlavalleamotoki: yeah I know. it was just a courtesy question to make sure I wasn't interrupting someone else's meeting ;-)14:02
amotokimlavalle: IIRC everyone can end a meeting after one hour from the start14:02
slaweqno, it looks that ZacharyMa was trying to do something :)14:02
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mlavalleyamamoto: you around?14:03
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mlavalleI don't see armax or ihrachys around14:06
mlavalleyamamoto joined, though14:06
mlavallelet's give him a couple of minutes14:06
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mlavalleamotoki: well, we don't havedrivers quorum today14:15
amotokitrue14:15
mlavalleamotoki: thanks for showing up14:17
mlavallelet's try again next week14:17
amotokimlavalle: I am looking through RFE bugs. will leave comments on them14:17
mlavallethank you14:17
mlavalleI'll do the same14:17
slaweq:(14:17
mlavalle#endmeeting14:17
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amotokithanks14:17
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yamamotomlavalle: slaweq: amotoki: sorry i had some family stuff14:25
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mlavalleyamamoto: you available now?14:25
yamamotoyes14:25
mlavalleamotoki: you still available?14:25
mlavalleyamamoto: family is always first14:27
yamamotomlavalle: thanks14:27
amotokii'm here14:27
mlavalleamotoki, yamamoto: cool let's have the meeting14:28
mlavalle#startmeeting neutron_drivers14:28
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mlavalleThis is the list of triaged bugs we have for today14:28
mlavalle#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe14:29
mlavallefirst one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/153110314:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1531103 in neutron "can update the gateway of ipv6 subnet with ipv6 address which has a leading "0" via cli" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)14:29
mlavalleI read it last night and pretty much am in agreement with amotoki14:30
amotokiI have one thing to discuss on this. what value should be returned as API response.14:30
amotoki*?14:31
yamamotoi'd say always normalized one14:31
mlavallemeaning when the user specifies 2::0001?14:31
amotokiyes14:31
mlavalleI also think the normalized one14:31
mlavallehow could that be backwards incompatible?14:32
amotokipreviously we return a string specified in a request14:32
amotokiif 2::0001 is specified 2::0001 is returned14:32
mlavalleis your concern that we might be breaking scripts that return un-normalized responses?14:33
amotokiyes, if some API user checks he gets a value he specified in a req, it breaks his script14:33
amotokibut it might be really a corner case14:33
amotokiperhaps we made similar small fixes in API14:34
amotokiso i think it is okay to normalize a response into 2::114:34
amotokiif we agree it should be normalized, I think it is no longer a RFE. it is a normal bug i think.14:35
mlavalleamotoki, yamamoto: approve?14:35
amotokimlavalle: okay to me14:36
yamamotofine for me14:36
mlavalleyeah, scripts that normalize on their own are most likely to be able to handle the case when they get a response already normalized14:37
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mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154375614:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1543756 in neutron "[RFE] RBAC: Allow user to create port from specific subnet on shared network" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)14:39
amotokilooking at the restored patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/432850/, it looks like a topic on the default policy.14:40
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mlavalleyes, the only concern I have is what kevinbenton expressed in #114:41
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amotokiagree, especially on the second paragraph whether we should allow to specify subnet_id14:42
mlavalleso maybe we want to relax the policy to allow the selection of the subnet, but not specific fixed ip14:42
amotokiI don't see any other problem on relaxing the policy on subnet_id so far14:43
mlavalleme neither14:44
mlavallelet's see what yamamoto thinks14:44
yamamotothinking14:45
mlavalletake your time14:45
mlavalleno rush14:45
mlavallethinking is what we are expected to do14:45
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yamamototoday a user can create many ports until he gets one with the subnet he wanted?14:47
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amotokihe can, but it needs some luck14:48
mlavalleyeah14:48
mlavallewhat would be the implication?14:49
yamamotoi'm just trying to remember the current allocation logic14:49
yamamotoi think it's safe to allow to specify subnet_id.14:50
amotokiIIRC if we have two IPv4 subnets, neutron tries to allocate a random IP address from one subnet14:50
mlavalleok, amotoki, yamamoto I think we all agree on this one14:51
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mlavalleI will leave a note to that effect in the RFE at the end of the meeting14:51
mlavalleNext one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/170546714:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1705467 in neutron "[RFE] project ID is not verified when creating neutron resources" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:51
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mlavallewe suggested to check typos in the client, last time we discussed this14:53
mlavallewould it mean to check from the client the project exists?14:54
amotokiin OSC implementation '--project' option always queries keystone, so I think it does not happen with OSC (plugin)14:54
mlavalleor check that the string provided is a UUID?14:54
mlavalleso that leave only neutron client14:55
mlavalleright?14:55
amotokii think so.14:55
amotokithe server side already check a passed string is UUID too14:55
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mlavalleis auto allocated topology supported in OSC?14:57
amotokihmmm... auto-allocated-topology in OSC is an exception. it has no check.....14:57
yamamotowhich server are you talking about?14:57
amotokiyamamoto: API impl on the neutron server14:58
mlavalleso that explains this RFE, maybe14:58
mlavalleOSC doesn't support his use case either14:58
amotokiI think auto-allocated-topology in OSC should be considered as a bug14:59
mlavalleand fix there14:59
amotokiyes14:59
mlavalleok, maybe next step is propose that in the RFE14:59
mlavalleand see if we can move it forward14:59
mlavallethoughts?14:59
amotoki+114:59
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mlavalleok team time is up15:00
mlavalle#endmeeting15:00
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-12-08-14.28.html15:00
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amotokithanks15:00
mlavallethanks for attending, amotoki and yamamoto15:00
yamamotothanks15:01
mlavalleand also yamamoto thank you very much for all your hard work with vpnaas15:01
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mlavalleI will take care of the governance patch soon15:01
yamamotomlavalle: thank you15:01
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mlavalleyamamoto: you know, the rookie PTL still learning how to do these things :-)15:02
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yamamotomlavalle: i guess you should document what you learned :-)15:05
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