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| smcginnis | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Oct 6 15:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | ping dims, fungi, tonyb, lbragstad, ttx | 15:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-tracking Meeting agenda | 15:00 |
| fungi | i guess it's friday | 15:00 |
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| ttx | already | 15:00 |
| smcginnis | Time flies when you're putting out fires. | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | We are at R-21 already. | 15:01 |
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| ttx | almost at release day | 15:02 |
| smcginnis | I'm sure it will be here before we know it. | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | #topic Queens-1 actions | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens-1 actions (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:03 | |
| * ttx multitasks meetings | 15:03 | |
| lbragstad | o/ | 15:03 |
| smcginnis | So the process doc doesn't have much about milestone 1 other than sending reminders. | 15:03 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else we should be doing in preparation for this? | 15:04 |
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| ttx | not really | 15:04 |
| smcginnis | Good, I like those kinds of deadlines. :) | 15:04 |
| * ttx doublechecks | 15:05 | |
| ttx | nah | 15:05 |
| ttx | We might want to review progress on the plan though | 15:05 |
| ttx | Not many Q1 targets in there | 15:05 |
| ttx | as in none | 15:06 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, we've made some progress on those items, but not really a lot of activity. | 15:06 |
| * ttx adds a few | 15:06 | |
| smcginnis | #topic Queens release plan | 15:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens release plan (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:06 | |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/queens-relmgt-plan | 15:06 |
| ttx | so I reviewed the potential work on release automation that a git namespace flattening /would/ trigger | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | Probably a good reminder to just bring up again that folks should look through that and pay attention what you've signed up for. | 15:07 |
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| smcginnis | Or were volunteer for. | 15:07 |
| ttx | fungi captured most of what was needed already | 15:07 |
| ttx | I just spotted a couple extra fixes | 15:07 |
| fungi | cool | 15:07 |
| ttx | I'll be updating the infra spec early next week | 15:07 |
| smcginnis | ttx: What's the current thought on timeline for that? | 15:07 |
| ttx | updating rationale and all | 15:07 |
| fungi | ping me when you push that in case i miss it | 15:07 |
| ttx | smcginnis: no ETA at this point | 15:08 |
| ttx | Still need to decide if it's a good idea or not | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | Are we going to try to get that tackled in Queens yet? | 15:08 |
| ttx | I would complete te zuul v3 transition first | 15:08 |
| fungi | i've also been thniking about ways we could actually do more of that earlier and save the actual gerrit-side flattening for later | 15:08 |
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| smcginnis | Tackled == do or abandon the idea | 15:08 |
| ttx | and then let fungi and clarkb have 2 months vacation to recover | 15:08 |
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| smcginnis | Hah, right. | 15:08 |
| ttx | fungi: also a number of redirects could save us from some work | 15:09 |
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| smcginnis | Based on the zuul disruptions, anything we could do to make than as painless and friction free as possible I know would be greatly appreciated. | 15:09 |
| fungi | stuff like hiding (but still supporting) namespaces on git.o.o and the org decomposition on gh could actually happen well before we rename all the repos in gerrit and update everything | 15:09 |
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| ttx | Like the tox.ini changes are not really necessary if we have a redirect set in cgit | 15:09 |
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| ttx | Though I suspect the .gitreview might still need updating | 15:10 |
| ttx | not 100% sure what that project parameter is used for | 15:10 |
| fungi | .gitreview files will need updating at the same time we rename in gerrit | 15:10 |
| smcginnis | I wonder if we could do any cleverness in git-review itself to ease this. | 15:10 |
| ttx | smcginnis: yes we can make sure that gitreview would update the remotes | 15:11 |
| ttx | to ease the pain on the dev side | 15:11 |
| fungi | working around it in git-review 1. assumes people upgrade to newer git-review and 2. is kinda tough when it's intended to be a generic gerrit client and we've avoided baking any openstackisms into it | 15:11 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, true. | 15:11 |
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| fungi | not necessarily impossible, just constraints we have to think about | 15:12 |
| ttx | fungi: no, I mean the idea of fetching the latest .gitreview if you fail with your checked out one | 15:12 |
| ttx | idea that someone suggested in that session | 15:12 |
| ttx | PTG denver infra room | 15:12 |
| fungi | mmm... i may be misunderstanding but that sounds like a catch-22 | 15:12 |
| fungi | i'll need a refresher, but not necessary during the release meeting | 15:12 |
| * smcginnis should go back and review those notes | 15:12 | |
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| smcginnis | OK, anything else we should discuss today? Or get back to it? | 15:13 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Discussion | 15:14 |
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| fungi | (i think the idea we talked abotu was actually having git-review update your git remote for gerrit if it finds a new .gitreview file) | 15:14 |
| ttx | nothing else on my side, just that the release impact is reasonable. Just need to develop a couple of tools to produce the patches for D day | 15:14 |
| ttx | fungi: yes | 15:14 |
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| ttx | that's what i meant by "make sure that gitreview would update the remotes" | 15:15 |
| fungi | okay, that's not fetching the latest .gitreview file, but rather what to do if you fetch a new .gitreview file | 15:15 |
| ttx | Ah, ok | 15:16 |
| ttx | smcginnis: ok to close early | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Sounds good then. Thanks everyone. Have a good weekend. | 15:17 |
| fungi | and we'd still have the chicken-and-egg problem of git needing to know the new gerrit remote before it could retrieve the updated .gitreview (this is the same problem projects run into on a smaller scale with individual project renames) | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Sounds like we should noodle on it some more. I need to catch up on notes. | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 15:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:17 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Oct 6 15:17:49 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-10-06-15.00.html | 15:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-10-06-15.00.txt | 15:17 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-10-06-15.00.log.html | 15:17 |
| smcginnis | Thanks everyone! | 15:17 |
| fungi | yeah, i'm open to proposed implementations, just think there are some logistical paradoxes at work | 15:18 |
| ttx | smcginnis: thanks! | 15:18 |
| fungi | (logical _and_ logistical paradoxes for that matter) | 15:18 |
| ttx | fungi: yeah, just want to list the various things and we can iterate on pain-reducing solutions | 15:18 |
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