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| ekcs | time for congress meeting. thinrichs masahito ramineni_ | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 00:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | hi all! | 00:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:01 |
| ramineni_ | Hi | 00:01 |
| ekcs | welcome back. topics are here as usual. feel free to comment/add https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi ramineni_ | 00:02 |
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| masahito | hi | 00:05 |
| ekcs | hi masahito ! | 00:05 |
| ekcs | topics here as usual https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics =) | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | ok let’s get started then! | 00:06 |
| ekcs | #topic policy library discussions | 00:07 |
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| ekcs | Not sure if there is much new to discuss. but I’ll start with a quick update. | 00:08 |
| ekcs | this patch is essentially ready to merge I think. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471954/ | 00:08 |
| ekcs | it’s the data, service, and basic api for policy lib. | 00:09 |
| ekcs | I expect to add a quick tempest smoke test today and then hopefully we can merge it soon. | 00:09 |
| ekcs | then there is this patch that handles “installing” policy lib and also loading library policies on congress startup. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475605/ | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | that’s all the update from me. anything to talk about on policy lib? | 00:10 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: I'm leaning towards adding flag to enable disable | 00:11 |
| ramineni_ | Do you think it's not necessary | 00:11 |
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| masahito | I'll check the patch today. | 00:12 |
| ramineni_ | For policy lib functionality | 00:12 |
| ekcs | I don’t feel it’s necessary because the library won’t get in your way at all or affect anything else you’re doing. but definitely want to hear others’ thoughts. | 00:12 |
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| masahito | I think it's already reviewed much. so there would be no problem. | 00:13 |
| ekcs | it doesn’t change the behavior of any other functionality in congress | 00:13 |
| ekcs | as far as I can see. | 00:13 |
| ramineni_ | Ya ..we are loading to database and all ..if it's not needed in production .. They should be able to disable it | 00:14 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: what kinds of scenario are you thinking about where it would be problematic to have the library enabled but ignored? | 00:14 |
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| ramineni_ | Anyway ..it's not much costly operation ..unless there are too many sample policies to load | 00:15 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: one of the steps of the stand-alone install is to copy over the library policy files to /etc/congress/whatever. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | if someone deploying in production doesn’t want it, they can just skip that step or keep the directory empty. | 00:16 |
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| ekcs | do you tihnk it suffices to document that in install guide? | 00:16 |
| ramineni_ | Ohok ..that's good | 00:16 |
| ramineni_ | Ya .. Should be good .. Thanks | 00:17 |
| ekcs | ok then! | 00:17 |
| ekcs | and thanks masahito | 00:17 |
| ekcs | another thing on policy library: it’d be great to get more sample policies in there. please think about policies we could include. | 00:18 |
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| ekcs | masahito: since you deployed congress in lab, do you have any policies that’d make sense in policy lib? | 00:19 |
| masahito | ekcs: yup. I try to | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | cool thanks masahito ! the policies can do into this google doc or committed directly to gerrit. #link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12f1VciulhT9yCYOc7jiulGiLT-tFpffLxNOpr-2QX2I/edit# | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | anyway yea hopefully we can all draw on our experiences in cloud and NFV and whatever we have experience in, and i’m sure there are useful policy examples =) | 00:23 |
| ekcs | anything else on policy library? | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | ok let’s move on then =) | 00:25 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | So we need to figure out soon-ish whether we want to do physical PTG or not. | 00:26 |
| ekcs | I think we all thought it’d be good to set time aside to discuss for the next cycle. | 00:27 |
| ekcs | but we could think about whether to do physical or virtual meetup. | 00:27 |
| ekcs | any thoughts about that? | 00:27 |
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| masahito | either is ok for me. | 00:28 |
| ekcs | masahito: have you done virtual meetup for blazar? how was that experience? | 00:28 |
| masahito | It's not bad. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | got it. | 00:29 |
| masahito | The problems of virtual meetup I found out are two. | 00:29 |
| masahito | 1. less time: we have limited time for the meetup, so we've done less discussion. | 00:30 |
| masahito | 2. no whiteboard: drawing pictures for new features helps us to understand the roadmap or what we're thinking. but there's no whiteboard in the virtual meetup. | 00:32 |
| ekcs | got it. on (2), did you guys try a screen sharing conferencing software? | 00:33 |
| masahito | of course, if we have some tools, #2 is not a problem. | 00:33 |
| ekcs | i see ok. maybe i’ll talk to you more later about tools if we decide to do virtual. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: any thoughts on which would work better for you and for the project? | 00:34 |
| ramineni_ | either is ok for me | 00:34 |
| masahito | we tried to use gotomeeting at the last PTG, but not good the Internet connection frequently disconnected. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | i see. | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | about (1) less time, was it more because you can’t have a big time slot when people are in different time zones? or more because when people don’t travel it’s hard to get away from the regular work? | 00:36 |
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| masahito | mainly because of time zones | 00:36 |
| ekcs | got it. | 00:37 |
| masahito | the main reason we decided to do the virtual meetup was we can gather at Boston Summit instead of the PTG | 00:37 |
| ekcs | yea that’s something I was thinking about. if we went virtual, I thoughts we could do a 2HR (hard to do anything longer given TZ) session each day for 3-5 days. does that sound reasonable? | 00:39 |
| ekcs | I have listed out some options for time of the day: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | That sounds reasonable to me | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | maybe we can take a look and think about these options, and think about which ones we’d prefer as well as whether these are preferrable to physical travel or not | 00:41 |
| ekcs | oh hi thinrichs ! | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | (I was late and didn't want to interrupt) | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | It seems like the tradeoff here is 3-5 days of 2-hour sessions versus a couple full days. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | right. and also someone is always going to have to do odd hours no matter what time we choose. | 00:43 |
| masahito | ekcs: do you have a plan to have the forum session in Sydney Summit? | 00:45 |
| ekcs | masahito: I think I’ll do onboarding forum session. not sure about other sessions. | 00:46 |
| ekcs | as I understand it forum sessions are mainly intended for things that concern multiple projects? | 00:46 |
| masahito | yes. | 00:47 |
| ekcs | we may have some good proposals for forums sessions that are of interest to a larger openstack audience. but I haven’t put much thought into it so far. | 00:47 |
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| ekcs | if anyone has suggestions for congress relevant forum sessions we could propose definitely email me =) | 00:49 |
| ekcs | any more thoughts about preferences for physical vs virtual, and on the possible options for virtual meet times? | 00:49 |
| ekcs | we can think about it more and maybe discuss over ML. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | or try and decide next meeting. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | anyway we have 9 minutes left. please feel free to voice anything else on PTG or other topics =) | 00:51 |
| ekcs | oh one more thing: instead of discussion on ML, probbaly easier to add thoughts and comments on the etherpad itself. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:52 |
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| masahito | updates from OPNFV side | 00:55 |
| masahito | I attended OPNFV summit last week, and had a demo of OPNFV Doctor project. | 00:55 |
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| masahito | The demo was success and about 60-70 people saw the Demo that used Congress. | 00:56 |
| ekcs | masahito: that’s great! | 00:57 |
| masahito | just in 2 days. | 00:57 |
| ekcs | would you mind sharing a link to the slides or video? | 00:57 |
| masahito | of course. I try to find | 00:58 |
| ekcs | thanks! | 00:58 |
| ekcs | ok ending in 1 min. | 00:58 |
| ekcs | maybe share on #congress /ML later if you don’t have it =) | 00:59 |
| ekcs | alright thanks everyone! have a great weekend and see you next week. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 01:00:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-06-22-00.01.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-06-22-00.01.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-06-22-00.01.log.html | 01:00 |
| masahito | see you. bye | 01:00 |
| ekcs | bye masahito | 01:00 |
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| thinrichs | Bye all | 01:01 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhonghua: hi | 01:57 |
| zhonghua | shaohe_feng, hi | 01:58 |
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| zhenguo | #startmeeting mogan | 02:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 02:00:46 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mogan' | 02:00 |
| wanghao | hi all | 02:00 |
| zhenguo | o/ | 02:00 |
| liusheng | o/ | 02:01 |
| shaohe_feng | zhonghua: sorry, I want to ping zhenguo | 02:01 |
| zhenguo | lol | 02:01 |
| shaohe_feng | o/ | 02:01 |
| zhonghua | :) | 02:01 |
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| zhenguo | litao__, zhangyang, Xinran: are you here? | 02:02 |
| zhangyang | o/ | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | as always, the agenda: | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:02 |
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| Xinran | o/ | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | Sydney Summit call for presentations open until July 14 | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | please help to prepare some if you to time | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | s/to/got | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | We got a presentation to introduce mogan during the OpenStack Days China next month, maybe that could be one also for Sydney Summit :D | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | ... | 02:06 |
| zhenguo | seems you guys don't quite like this topic, let's move on, hah | 02:06 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: that will be cool, beside introduction, do we have other things that is proper to display ? | 02:06 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: I think HFBank got a good topic for this | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: wdyt? | 02:07 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: hah, mogan+cloudboot ? | 02:07 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: yes, if they also run mogan in production before that, it's really cool | 02:08 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: e... i've no idea now... | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: hah | 02:08 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: does the China Days persentation will include a hands-on ? | 02:08 |
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| shaohe_feng | liusheng: HFBank topic on China day? | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: no | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: no, for summit | 02:09 |
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| liusheng | yes | 02:09 |
| liusheng | may a hands-on will be cool | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | we an prepare with HFBank guys | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: hah, not sure if the network is good enough | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: but I will try, still not preparing the slides | 02:10 |
| shaohe_feng | liusheng: really good news for mogan. | 02:10 |
| liusheng | zhenguo:that is true, a video is alternative | 02:10 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: and sure a presentaion with intel guys about valence | 02:10 |
| liusheng | hah | 02:10 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: sure | 02:10 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: do you ensure that Mogan can have a project on board? | 02:11 |
| litao__ | i am here | 02:11 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: sure, valence | 02:11 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: still not sure | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: but seems no rush | 02:11 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: okay | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | litao__: o/ | 02:11 |
| shaohe_feng | liusheng: the HFBack's topic is seleced? | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | wanghao, litao__: and Fiberhome guys sure have a good views of why Mogan, so we can prepare a presentation as well | 02:12 |
| liusheng | shaohe_feng: no, we just hoped there will be on and will be selected. lol | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: no, I suggest we prepare a topic | 02:13 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yeah, we can talked about it. | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: greate | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | ok, we can discuss the details later | 02:14 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo: greate | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | another thing I want to mention here is the Placement service | 02:14 |
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| zhenguo | we are migrating to placement for resources tracking.. | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | do you have any concerns? | 02:15 |
| liusheng | yes, I am trying a PoC firstly, but sorry for my slow progress :( | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: hah, it's really a big task | 02:15 |
| shaohe_feng | yes, big task | 02:16 |
| shaohe_feng | no rush | 02:16 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: If we put it in placement, the old scheduler will be abandoned? | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | litao__: schduler will also be there | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | litao__: we just move resources tracking to placement | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | litao__: and all filters will be removed | 02:17 |
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| shaohe_feng | placement just for resource track | 02:17 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: yes, i understand | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | yes, and I think placement is more advanced the the current design | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | instead of list all nodes and check every filter to see if the node is passed | 02:18 |
| shaohe_feng | so mogan claim resouce from placement | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | placement will just use a complex sql to query the required nodes | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | it's move fast | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | ys | 02:18 |
| shaohe_feng | and who will report the resource status to palcement? | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: mogan | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: mogan resource tracker will update resouces to placement | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | and mogan scheduler will set allocation info there | 02:19 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: got it. | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | with placement, we don't save baremteal resources in mogan db | 02:20 |
| liusheng | yes | 02:20 |
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| litao__ | But Currently the placement locates in nova, so mogan must be with nova? | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | litao__; we can just enable placement service | 02:20 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: then how will we manage aggregates | 02:20 |
| liusheng | litao__: placement has itself endpoint | 02:21 |
| zhenguo | litao__: placement is in a different stack | 02:21 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: OK | 02:21 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: leverage placement aggregates | 02:21 |
| liusheng | litao__: we can treat it a indendent service | 02:21 |
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| liusheng | s/indendent/independent | 02:21 |
| litao__ | liusheng: i do | 02:21 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: every node is a resource provider there, we can call placement api to make nodes aggregates | 02:21 |
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| zhenguo | zhanyang: in mogan flavor we can pass aggregates info with extra specs to placement | 02:21 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: placement has a Proposition for every resource update. most distribute system use this way for its consistency | 02:22 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: oh, i see, mainly use aggregates for server group usage. | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: yes | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: that could be easy to management | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | ok, we can continue to discuss this in the next topic | 02:23 |
| zhangyang | zhenguo: i see, need to learn more about placement | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: hah, | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: it's easy for you guys | 02:24 |
| zhenguo | ok, not much of announcements, anyone else have a thing here? | 02:24 |
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| zhenguo | a, the contribution | 02:24 |
| zhenguo | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/mogan/30 | 02:24 |
| zhenguo | seems the review stats is better than last week | 02:25 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: seems the theory of place is simple, use fold to manage the resouces | 02:25 |
| liusheng | hah | 02:25 |
| wanghao | yes | 02:25 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: you know fold can be recursive | 02:25 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: placement also introduce a notion of nested resources, we can discuss in the next topic task-tracking, hah | 02:26 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: it also support tag, like gmail, | 02:26 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: yes, the notion is fold | 02:27 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: we can set traits to resource providers like tag | 02:27 |
| zhenguo | and filter with them | 02:27 |
| zhenguo | .... | 02:27 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: only two ways to manage resouce, fold and tag | 02:27 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes, | 02:27 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: here recursive I means nested | 02:28 |
| shaohe_feng | fold = nested | 02:28 |
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| shaohe_feng | tag is flat, | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes, in fact, I more like a nested resouce for baremetal instead of just one custom resouce class | 02:28 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: yes. I saw most resource manage tools use nested | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | let's continue talk about about the contribution | 02:29 |
| shaohe_feng | OK | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: hah | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | again, I want to mention here again, review quantities/qualities is the most important aspect of considering one to be a core reviewer. | 02:30 |
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| zhenguo | hope you guys can keep reviewing | 02:30 |
| liusheng | yes, and we need more cores, lol | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | sure | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | more cores and more diversty | 02:31 |
| shaohe_feng | yes. | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | Our 'review hour' seems not running very well, we should focus one some high priority things, maybe need to prepare a ehterpad every time | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | wdyt? | 02:31 |
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| zhenguo | to help us focus one some important patches/specs, and we can fully discuss during the hour | 02:32 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo: yes | 02:32 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: sounds good | 02:33 |
| liusheng | yes, make sense | 02:33 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: more efficiency | 02:33 |
| zhenguo | so, start from today's review hour? | 02:33 |
| shaohe_feng | sounds good. | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | the most things I like to be reviewed is the specs | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | ok, anything else? | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | if not, let's move on | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | #topic task tracking | 02:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "task tracking (Meeting topic: mogan)" | 02:35 | |
| zhenguo | #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard | 02:35 |
| * zhenguo gives folks a few minutes to review | 02:36 | |
| zhenguo | hi guys, please remember to update the tasks to help wanghao construct the weekly report, thanks | 02:37 |
| wanghao | yeah, thank guys | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | about the new flavor task, I think it's almost done, and with this bp, I don't plan to move to use resources for scheduling | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | will wait for placement got get rid of the old way of scheduling | 02:39 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: we can continue the discussion about placement here, hah | 02:40 |
| wanghao | so flavor is not working for scheduling temporary | 02:40 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: no, we also use the flavor name for scheduling now | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | just added a resources filed, but not use it | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | it's prepared for placement | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | no need to change it again and again | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | make sense? | 02:42 |
| liusheng | it probably the currently new flavor model can be merged fistly, right ? | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: yes | 02:42 |
| liusheng | ok, great | 02:42 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: ok, that make sense | 02:43 |
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| zhenguo | after moving to placement, we will only select nodes based on the resources | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | will get rid of all filters | 02:43 |
| wanghao | placement now can get the node information from ironic now? | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | which will make us lose the ability of avaliability zone | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: no, we get from ironic then update it to placement | 02:44 |
| liusheng | may we can also keep the az filters currenly ? | 02:44 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: ah, I see | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: all resources move to placement | 02:45 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: Nova also keep many filters now | 02:45 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: and how to save the az info with resource provider | 02:45 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: they will get rid of it in future | 02:45 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes, I know... | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: and nova also save compute_nodes info with ti | 02:45 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: I mean for now. | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: but I don't want to save the resources to mogan db and placement db, it's duplicate | 02:46 |
| zhenguo | maybe we can leverage traits for az | 02:46 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: oh, got it, I see | 02:46 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes, sure | 02:46 |
| zhenguo | we set a az trait to every resource provider(node) | 02:46 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: do you means tag | 02:46 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes | 02:46 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: tag with a AZ name | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: similar to tag | 02:47 |
| liusheng | shaohe_feng: similar things | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: in placement notion, it's traits | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | also seems there's a os-traits library including all standard information | 02:48 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: not sure, how to treat the az list api | 02:48 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: can mogan api and then can placement api ? | 02:49 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: yes, use stander notion, traits. haha | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: get all resouce providers from nova... | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes | 02:49 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: a bit weird | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: yes | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: but not sure how to hanle it gracefully | 02:50 |
| zhenguo | in fact, I also think set az info with every baremetal node is odd | 02:50 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok, it is not important | 02:50 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: what's your idea ? | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: not sure, for az, I think one ironic should be in one az | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: so one mgoan-engine? | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | maybe with multi engine services | 02:51 |
| liusheng | maybe combining with nodes aggregate like nova does | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | sounds good | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | need to discuss more, will upate the placement spec | 02:53 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: thanks for your spec :D | 02:54 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: hah, please feel free to update it, you are the primary assigner | 02:54 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: lol | 02:55 |
| zhenguo | hah | 02:55 |
| liusheng | btw, please you guys help to review the rest tempest tests | 02:55 |
| zhenguo | sure | 02:56 |
| liusheng | all the api interfaces now have temptest tests to cover | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: or maybe we can save az info in mogan cache? | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | just for user's listing | 02:56 |
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| zhenguo | or maybe cache all resource providers | 02:57 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: how it goes if restarting services ? | 02:57 |
| zhenguo | restarting service will fetch that again | 02:57 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: sounds duplicated things... hah | 02:57 |
| zhenguo | hah | 02:57 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: let's disscuss after placement landed | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | as we also want to provide node list | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: ok | 02:58 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: oh, yes | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | now just focus on how to migrate to placement | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | oh, it's almost time | 02:58 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: could this be a spec to explain what we want to do? | 02:58 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: what's the AZ will be for? | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: sure | 02:58 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: I also asked zhenyu if placement have itself client, he also has no idea | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: will be in the placement spec | 02:59 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: one AZ means one cluster? | 02:59 |
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| wanghao | zhenguo: ok | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes, so maybe we don't need to set it to every node | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | maybe an ironic should provide a az | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | oh, it's time | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | thanks y'all | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | #endmeeting | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 03:00:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-06-22-02.00.html | 03:00 |
| liusheng | bye | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-06-22-02.00.txt | 03:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-06-22-02.00.log.html | 03:00 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: thanks. | 03:00 |
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| jftalta | Hi i18n guys | 13:03 |
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| jpich | Hello, hello | 13:04 |
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| jftalta | jpich, zzxwill : any news about ianychoi ? | 13:12 |
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| jpich | No, guessing he got a little bit delayed | 13:12 |
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| jftalta | it's 10:27 pm in Seoul. Maybe he's sleeping ;) | 13:28 |
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| jpich | :) | 13:36 |
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| jftalta | jpich, zzxwill : will you be in Denver ? In Sydney ? | 13:41 |
| jpich | jftalta: Not in Sydney, not sure yet about Denver. Yourself? | 13:42 |
| amotoki | hi, seems no meeting today... | 13:42 |
| jftalta | I'll be in Sydney, but not in Denver | 13:42 |
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| jftalta | motoki: yes it does. | 13:43 |
| amotoki | hehe | 13:43 |
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| jftalta | ianychoi sent a reminder yesterday. Weird | 13:43 |
| amotoki | i have one thing to share which affects translators who are interested in document translation. | 13:44 |
| jpich | Hopefully everything's ok | 13:44 |
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| ianychoi | Really sorry | 13:44 |
| amotoki | i hope he is okay | 13:44 |
| ianychoi | Who are for I18n meeting | 13:44 |
| ianychoi | ? | 13:44 |
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| jftalta | yes, he is ;) | 13:45 |
| jftalta | ianychoi : Hi :) | 13:45 |
| jpich | o/ | 13:45 |
| amotoki | o/ | 13:45 |
| jftalta | o/ | 13:45 |
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| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:45 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 13:45:35 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:45 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:45 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:45 |
| ianychoi | I am really sorry | 13:45 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: hope you are okay | 13:45 |
| amotoki | any trouble? | 13:45 |
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| ianychoi | amotoki, my new company business really conflicts with my OpenStack activities | 13:46 |
| ianychoi | I did not expect such originally.. so sad | 13:46 |
| jpich | Sorry to hear :( | 13:47 |
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| ianychoi | vuuv, hi! | 13:47 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: no worries. we understand you need to put priorites on your new job. | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | #topic User survey announcement | 13:47 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/user-committee/2017-June/002134.html | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | User survey will be available from next week with translated survey | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | If there would be translation error, we can make pull requests to revise translated survey questions | 13:48 |
| ianychoi | #topic Review on openstack/i18n and openstack/i18n-specs repositories | 13:48 |
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| amotoki | re user survey translation, i sent a pull request to control the order of %s (substitution) https://github.com/OpenStackweb/openstack-org/pull/82 | 13:49 |
| ianychoi | Personally, I hope that more I18n members and the OpenStackers who are interested in translation will participate in review activities | 13:49 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, great - thanks a lot! | 13:49 |
| ianychoi | #topic Call for release managers for Pike cycle | 13:49 |
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| ianychoi | Any body for volunteering release manager for Pike cycle? | 13:50 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, how about u? | 13:50 |
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| ianychoi | Really sorry.. we might need to close the meeting in 10 minutes but we can discuss more in #openstack-i18n channel | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | #topic Discussion: How to deal with Horizon translation inclusion ratio? | 13:51 |
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| jftalta | release manager ? what is it about ?... | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | I want to discuss it with I18n members | 13:51 |
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| amotoki | some background on this topic? | 13:52 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, sorry for stringfreeze managers: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-January/002686.html | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1690233 | 13:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690233 in openstack i18n "A couple of django-js.po files are missing from Horizon tree" [High,Confirmed] | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, if you have time, would you see this? | 13:52 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: ah I see. previously we decided the criteria from the point of view that translation is usable for users as a release. | 13:54 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: from this point the current thresh is appropriate to me. | 13:54 |
| amotoki | but Rob's point is worth considered. | 13:55 |
| amotoki | he suggested to include all and set the default language based on the progress. | 13:55 |
| amotoki | I think it is a good idae | 13:55 |
| amotoki | idea. | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, I see. One question is that would it be a main blocker for translate checksite implementation? | 13:55 |
| amotoki | one negative side is we have too many translation imports | 13:56 |
| amotoki | i think this is one reason we apply some threshold, but we can revisit it. | 13:56 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: I don't think so. horizon landed a command to pull all catalogs from zanata today | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, thanks a lot. Let's discuss later since we need to close the meeting soon. | 13:57 |
| jpich | We had translation files with just one word translated at the beginning, where someone was obviously just testing Transifex and not really planning to do more, but obviously there's a difference between "more than one words" and 75% :) | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | #topic Asking for my less activity for PTL remaining period | 13:57 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, really thank u! | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | Really sorry for this... | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | I am now really busy with my business in a new company. | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | I go to country side at least once a week by train and car for more than 3 hours | 13:58 |
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| ianychoi | This experience is new but helpful to me :) | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | But.. I did not expect such . | 13:59 |
| amotoki | good and sad to hear that. | 13:59 |
| jpich | Same! | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | I originally thought that my community activities would co-exist with my new business | 13:59 |
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| ianychoi | However, now I feel that the reality is not true | 13:59 |
| amotoki | if you share some list to do, I think we can share your loads. | 13:59 |
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| jftalta | I remember we talked about that in Boston | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | I need to make myself less active but yes. amotoki: I will do that :) | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, yep.... | 14:00 |
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| ianychoi | I really like I18n team. Hopefully we discuss with brilliant ideas and make our team better with OpenStack :) | 14:00 |
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| jftalta | Go ianychoi, hold on ! | 14:00 |
| jpich | :) | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | I need to close the meeting. If you have more thoughts, please call me in #openstack-i18n channel. | 14:01 |
| amotoki | oh time, but i have one thing to share on the recent doc policy change. | 14:01 |
| ianychoi | Thank you all today and really sorry for being late | 14:01 |
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| ianychoi | amotoki, yes. Plz share :) | 14:01 |
| amotoki | but i can defer it to the next or next next meeting. | 14:01 |
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| jftalta | it's ok :) | 14:01 |
| jftalta | goodbye | 14:01 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, thanks a lot for reminder. Good bye | 14:02 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 14:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 14:02:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-06-22-13.45.html | 14:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-06-22-13.45.txt | 14:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-06-22-13.45.log.html | 14:02 |
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| amotoki | thanks | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 21:00:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
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| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| mriedem | who is around and wants to party | 21:00 |
| dansmith | me me me | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
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| efried | o/ | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | well i guess it's a small party | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:02 |
| dansmith | quick party I hope | 21:02 |
| dtp | o/ | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #topic release new | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release new (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| mriedem | #undo | 21:02 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic release new | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info July 27 is feature freeze (5 weeks away) | 21:02 |
| mriedem | duh duh duh | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 71 targeted, 68 approved, 22 completed, 2 not started | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | i know i keep saying i'm going to drop things that aren't started, and maybe i'll finally do it tomorrow | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | or not | 21:03 |
| mriedem | any questions on the release? | 21:03 |
| efried | mriedem Which are not started? | 21:03 |
| mriedem | some hyperv ones | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | and some ironic ones are blocked or don't have owners | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/pike | 21:04 |
| * efried slinks back into his corner, conspicuously not volunteering for those | 21:04 | |
| mriedem | yeah i'm actually not looking for volunteers right now | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:04 | |
| efried | Yeah, thought if they were quick/easy... | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #help Need help with bug triage; there are 84 (up 6 from last week) new untriaged bugs as of today (June 22). | 21:05 |
| * mriedem waits for bauzas to say he's going to triage bugs | 21:05 | |
| mriedem | but he's probably on french mandatory vacation camp | 21:05 |
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| melwitt | he's on PTO I think | 21:05 |
| mriedem | gate status is ok | 21:06 |
| mriedem | 3rd party ci.... | 21:06 |
| mriedem | no news | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #info Ocata 15.0.6 released | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 21:07 |
| mriedem | quite a few open reviews in stable/newton | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| mriedem | there was no cells v2 meeting this week | 21:08 |
| mriedem | dansmith: did you want to bring focus to anything? | 21:08 |
| dansmith | well, I'd like to get that devstack patch in | 21:08 |
| dansmith | sdague has +2d, and I asked dtroyer | 21:08 |
| dansmith | but I'll have to do some reminding tomorrow I guess | 21:08 |
| mriedem | mtreinish is on sabbatical in asia i think | 21:08 |
| dansmith | but nothing else really | 21:09 |
| mriedem | as in, his conference tour for the summer | 21:09 |
| dansmith | heh yeah | 21:09 |
| melwitt | there's been good progress merging quotas patches. getting to the end stretch, fyi | 21:09 |
| mriedem | yup, those are here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446244/ | 21:09 |
| mriedem | ok moving on to scheduler | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | those guys are all out | 21:09 |
| mriedem | but the meeting was basically recapping the allocation requests plan | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | which is ed's thread in the ML | 21:10 |
| mriedem | and jay has changes up | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | that series starts here now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475448/ | 21:10 |
| mriedem | which blocks claims in the scheduler, so a priority | 21:10 |
| mriedem | api meeting, there was one, | 21:11 |
| mriedem | we mostly talked about artom's tagged attach volume patch and if we should support attaching volumes with tags to shelved offloaded instances, | 21:11 |
| mriedem | after much deliberation we agreed to not support that for now | 21:11 |
| mriedem | with some hand waving about placement and traits making that all much better in the future | 21:11 |
| mriedem | also, gmann's changes are up for returning server group default quotas in the api | 21:12 |
| mriedem | notification - there wasn't a meeting as gibi was the only one there | 21:12 |
| mriedem | the notification updates are in the ML | 21:12 |
| mriedem | nova/cinder things - there was a meeting today, | 21:12 |
| mriedem | i reviewed stvnoyes change for live migration, | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | jgriffith and ildikov think the swap volume change is ready for review, | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | and jgriffith has the new style attach poc up still | 21:13 |
| mriedem | plus the cinder side is working on some fixes over there | 21:13 |
| mriedem | we also need another nova core to help review stuff going on here since johnthetubaguy has been out | 21:13 |
| ildikov | mriedem: +1 | 21:13 |
| mriedem | but i explained that most people don't have the context on what's going on here, so it's not easy to just jump in | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | i'll probably bug more on that once we have changes with a +2 on them | 21:14 |
| mriedem | #stuck reviews | 21:14 |
| mriedem | oops | 21:14 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | nothing on the agenda | 21:15 |
| mriedem | does anyone have something to bring up here? | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | nothing on the agenda, | 21:15 |
| mriedem | so does anyone have anything to bring up? | 21:15 |
| dansmith | nay | 21:15 |
| mriedem | oh yeah gentle reminders on summit call for presentations, | 21:15 |
| mriedem | and booking travel of the ptg | 21:16 |
| mriedem | i'm nowhere near thinking about ptg planning right now, but i know it's going to creep up | 21:16 |
| mriedem | i expect to start real planning for the ptg after the 3rd milestone | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | also, i'm in china all next week, | 21:16 |
| mriedem | so i probably won't be around much | 21:16 |
| mriedem | that's it | 21:17 |
| mriedem | toodle-oo | 21:17 |
| dansmith | move to adjourn | 21:17 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 21:17:19 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-06-22-21.00.html | 21:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-06-22-21.00.txt | 21:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-06-22-21.00.log.html | 21:17 |
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| kevinbenton | hello! | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 22:01 |
| armax | hi | 22:01 |
| alisanhaji | Hi | 22:01 |
| boden | hi | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 22 22:01:49 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | boden is only with us for the first half of the meeting and wanted to share some items | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | boden: take the floor! | 22:02 |
| boden | sure | 22:02 |
| mlavalle | welcome boden | 22:02 |
| boden | there’s a set of 2 patches out for review that add an api_status attribute to the /extensions API | 22:02 |
| boden | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475577 | 22:03 |
| boden | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475792/ | 22:03 |
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| boden | we were hoping folks could find a few min to weigh-in on them in the near future | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | the quick context is that it would be nice to have an easily visible way to tell which APIs are still being developed and might be unstable | 22:04 |
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| mlavalle | I already took a look at the patchsets and it makes sense to me | 22:04 |
| hichihara | I agree the feature. | 22:04 |
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| hichihara | But there is a Akihiro's comment on patch set. | 22:05 |
| hichihara | His comment is the feature may need shim extension. | 22:05 |
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| kevinbenton | yes, we might need an extension to discover the extension to extensions :) | 22:05 |
| hichihara | :) | 22:06 |
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| boden | can we just move the discussion to the patches? | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | but I think that implies akihiro is on board with the feature | 22:06 |
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| kevinbenton | yep, unless armax or mlavalle have any immediate concerns | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | I am ok with this feature | 22:07 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: unfortunately I dropped during the first few mins of the meeting | 22:07 |
| armax | the eavedrops have not loaded yet so I lost context | 22:07 |
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| armax | I’ll have to catch up | 22:07 |
| armax | and provide feedback elsewhere | 22:07 |
| boden | armax: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475577/ | 22:07 |
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| armax | boden: ack | 22:08 |
| boden | I will address the comments | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:08 |
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| boden | ready to move onto the last item? | 22:09 |
| kevinbenton | yep | 22:09 |
| boden | for the neutron-lib work we need a way to decouple database imports from neutron | 22:09 |
| boden | a few weeks ago I proposed a spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473531/ | 22:09 |
| boden | today I added some PoC code and updated spec | 22:10 |
| boden | we won’t be able to wrap up the neutron-lib work for networking-ovn in pike without some solution here | 22:10 |
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| kevinbenton | boden: ok. is that the final blocker for networking-ovn? | 22:11 |
| armax | boden: what % are we at with OVN? | 22:12 |
| boden | kevinbenton: well, with the approach proposed really anything could be “pluggable” if we agree to it.. so the answer depends on the final solution | 22:12 |
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| boden | armax: I haven’t been tracking that closely | 22:12 |
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| armax | boden: OK | 22:12 |
| boden | armax: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=from%20neutron | 22:13 |
| boden | we still have some work left | 22:13 |
| boden | including the ML2Plugin | 22:13 |
| kevinbenton | ok. i'll get this spec reviewed | 22:13 |
| boden | maybe this is a better search for ovn: http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=from%20neutron%5B%5C.%7C%20import%5D&i=nope&files=&repos=networking-ovn | 22:14 |
| mlavalle | I will also find time soon to review the spec | 22:14 |
| boden | that’s all from me, unless there are questions/comments | 22:14 |
| armax | boden: tehre’s a script that tracks the % | 22:14 |
| armax | in the lib repo | 22:14 |
| boden | armax: ack | 22:15 |
| armax | don’t have an env handy right now | 22:15 |
| armax | to come up with the number though | 22:15 |
| armax | hence my question :) | 22:15 |
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| kevinbenton | boden: ok. was that all? | 22:16 |
| boden | armax: my guess is we are 60’some % complete | 22:16 |
| boden | dart board says so | 22:16 |
| boden | kevinbenton yup thanks | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | boden: thanks | 22:16 |
| armax | boden: that’s good progress | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | i'd like to discuss an RFE we were waiting on feedback from the contributor for | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649417 | 22:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649417 in neutron "RFE: Security group rule using address set" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | so the reporter has volunteered to do the work | 22:17 |
| mlavalle | it seems they don't have time | 22:17 |
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| kevinbenton | Han Zhou said they will contribute | 22:18 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: you are right | 22:18 |
| mlavalle | I misread | 22:18 |
| mlavalle | I would like Han Zhou assign himslef or anyone else soon, though | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | i think the question here is going to be how it integrates with the existing SG API | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | shall we approve it and wait for a spec? | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | or does anyone think this shouldn't be added as a feature? | 22:20 |
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| mlavalle | I would be interested in seeing a spec | 22:21 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: any objections to allowing it to proceed to spec? | 22:22 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: there’s no user facing impact, is there? | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | armax: there is | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | armax: it's a new API to define sets of addresses | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | which can then be referenced somehow in the SG API | 22:23 |
| mlavalle | it's kind of the point of the rfe | 22:23 |
| * armax is slow at catching up | 22:23 | |
| armax | sure, spec sounds good | 22:24 |
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| kevinbenton | ok | 22:24 |
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| kevinbenton | next up | 22:25 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1653932 | 22:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1653932 in neutron "[rfe] network router:external field not exported" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 22:25 |
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| kevinbenton | so i did some digging on this | 22:25 |
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| kevinbenton | in order for policy.json to have an entry referencing a field in a parent object | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | we do need a change to the policy engine to allow lookups for 'field' rules like we allow for 'tenant_id' rules | 22:26 |
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| kevinbenton | my assessment is that the policy engine changes are reasonable to support these types of rules | 22:28 |
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| kevinbenton | so i would at least like to approve this one to enable operators to write a policy rule that allows users to see external subnets | 22:29 |
| armax | kevinbenton: how different would the code look like compared to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476094? | 22:29 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: that is pretty much it | 22:29 |
| armax | can the patch lead to potential races where now subnets all of a sudden start showing up? | 22:29 |
| armax | in order words | 22:29 |
| armax | does it make sense to change the default policy.json? | 22:30 |
| armax | or leave it as is | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | right | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | so there are two parts to the RFE | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | one is allowing the rule | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | the other is us making the rule the default | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | I'm not sure about the latter | 22:30 |
| armax | agreed | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | I'm sure there are tempest tests that will list all subnets visible to a tenant and then explode when this merges | 22:30 |
| armax | would the patch be able to handle other attributes like router:external | 22:31 |
| armax | or is it a special case? | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | armax: nope, not a special case | 22:31 |
| armax | OK | 22:31 |
| armax | then we should err on the side of caution | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | so it should apply to any field match rules needing to reference another object | 22:31 |
| armax | enable the logic but keep the json file as is, release note and document the cahnge and move on | 22:31 |
| armax | that’d be my suggestion | 22:31 |
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| kevinbenton | ok, mlavalle does that sound reasonable | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | ? | 22:32 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 22:32 |
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| mlavalle | the poc was a good idea | 22:32 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667877 | 22:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] Allow DVR for E/W while leaving N/S centralized" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | so i don't want to beat a dead horse | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | i just wanted to point out that I've updated that RFE to separate the proposed implementation from the requirement | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | armax: if you could take a look at that and comment on if you agree with the use case or not that would be good | 22:34 |
| armax | kevinbenton: I have been meaning to reach out to you | 22:35 |
| armax | as I also have been giving this some thought | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | ok, let's discuss outside of our precious drivers time :) | 22:35 |
| armax | I’ll have a look and reach out for details | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1669630 | 22:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1669630 in neutron "Network RBAC acceptance workflow" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:36 |
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| armax | so long as people are ok with us having a secret meeting | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | armax: we can do it in openstack-neutron | 22:36 |
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| armax | no, secret!! | 22:36 |
| armax | :) | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | yeah, it doesn't have to be secret | 22:36 |
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| kevinbenton | so i think we have discovered a way forward with this RFE | 22:37 |
| armax | kevinbenton: nice | 22:37 |
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| armax | I remember when we talked during one of our (secret) meetings we were unable to go past the sticking non-bw compat point | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | existing API behaves as it currently does | 22:37 |
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| kevinbenton | and we add a new endpoint that requires acceptance | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | then operators can choose to banish the legacy API via policy.json | 22:38 |
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| armax | you’ve just implemented poor man’s microversioning! I like it | 22:38 |
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| mlavalle | LOL | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | it's not super great, but it seems to be the best we can do since the ask is fundamentally to break existing behavior :) | 22:38 |
| armax | let’s give this some thought | 22:38 |
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| armax | this feels like a slippery slope | 22:39 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: can I say that? | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | ok, i'm also going to ask the requestor if he has resources to work on it | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | armax: well you already did :) | 22:39 |
| armax | I can take it back | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | ok, let's come back to this one | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1671448 | 22:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1671448 in neutron "[RFE] Neutron quota api should be configurable via policy.json" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | this is just making the policy engine enforce quota requests | 22:42 |
| mlavalle | we now Ihar supports this one. He says so in the comments | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | reedip has volunteered and it should be pretty isolated work as Ihar has pointed out | 22:42 |
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| kevinbenton | so I think this one is good to go even without a spec | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | it's just making quota API consistent with the other APIs | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | WRT policy | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | any naysayers? | 22:44 |
| mlavalle | I am ok with it as well | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | armax: ? | 22:45 |
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| armax | OK | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1672920 | 22:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1672920 in neutron "[RFE] Flavor support for VPNaaS" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Hunt Xu (huntxu) | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | I think this is good to go | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | has support from vpnaas folks | 22:46 |
| mlavalle | meaning yamamoto? | 22:48 |
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| kevinbenton | yeah | 22:48 |
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| kevinbenton | we can approve and let vpnaas core reviewers decide how to prioritize it | 22:49 |
| mlavalle | I'm of with it | 22:49 |
| mlavalle | ok^^^^ | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | armax: in your comment it's not clear if you felt it should be blocked until other items are addressed | 22:50 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: you’d know my answer | 22:50 |
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| armax | if folks feel like working on feature development and prioritize over other stadium related efforts | 22:51 |
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| armax | that would be fine by me so long as vpnaas is still not qualifying as meeting stadium quality criteria | 22:51 |
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| armax | I mean, so long as we don expect to relax quality criteria and yet give a pass | 22:52 |
| kevinbenton | sounds like approval to me :) | 22:52 |
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| armax | we shouldn’t even care | 22:52 |
| armax | it’s not our problem at the moemnt | 22:52 |
| kevinbenton | i will note that they should make sure it doesn't interfere with their stadium goal | 22:52 |
| armax | that’s the beauty of it | 22:53 |
| armax | empower people to make their own decisions | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1583694 | 22:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 22:53 |
| armax | I’d advice to focus energy and effort over other priority | 22:53 |
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| kevinbenton | i didn't realize this was an RFE | 22:54 |
| kevinbenton | it's a bug fix | 22:54 |
| armax | well it was an RFE | 22:54 |
| kevinbenton | armax: do you have any issues with that request? | 22:54 |
| armax | because we wanted to fix it in a way that impacted the API | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | the fix doesn't impact the API | 22:55 |
| armax | last time I checked I had reserverations with the proposed implementations | 22:55 |
| armax | if we could get a status update, or if you have one, I’d be happy to hear it | 22:55 |
| armax | then, it’s still the problematic fix which I fear is gonna cause us grief | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | so the logic goes like this | 22:56 |
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| kevinbenton | (based on reading Swami's patches) | 22:56 |
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| kevinbenton | if a floating IP is associated with a bound port | 22:56 |
| armax | frankly at this point I am frustrated that I am unable to influence direction or express why my concern is founded | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | everything works as it currently does | 22:56 |
| armax | I give in | 22:56 |
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| kevinbenton | if the port is unbound, it's just hosted on the DVR_SNAT agent | 22:57 |
| armax | without API changes, to make this use case move away from allowed address pairs as a hack | 22:57 |
| kevinbenton | no config options | 22:57 |
| armax | we’ll have a bug factory we’re gonna be dealing with | 22:57 |
| armax | if I am the only one I see this danger, then I might be the only one who’s wrong | 22:58 |
| armax | so let’s move on | 22:58 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: what is your issue with what i just described? | 22:58 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I am interested in listening | 22:59 |
| armax | it’s always the same | 22:59 |
| armax | I have provided it time and time again | 22:59 |
| armax | even in the bug report | 23:00 |
| armax | time check | 23:00 |
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| kevinbenton | helpful :/ | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 22 23:00:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-06-22-22.01.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-06-22-22.01.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-06-22-22.01.log.html | 23:00 |
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| armax | can continue in channel if you want | 23:01 |
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