Wednesday, 2017-06-14

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zhiyuanhello00:59
Yipeihi00:59
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yinxiulinhi00:59
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zhiyuanJoe is attending the opennfv summit, so I will host the meeting this time01:00
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zhiyuan#startmeeting tricircle01:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 14 01:01:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zhiyuan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.01:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.01:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tricircle'01:01
zhiyuan#topic rollcall01:01
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zhiyuan#info zhiyuan01:01
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yinxiulin#info xiulin01:02
Yipei#info Yipei01:02
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zhiyuan#topic progress update01:03
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zhiyuanso let's update our delelopment progress01:03
zhiyuanfor me, most of my submitted bug fixes have been merged01:03
Yipeifor lbaas, i have some new trouble01:04
zhiyuanI have also submitted a patch to improve our smoke test01:04
zhiyuanto Yipei, what's the problem?01:04
yinxiulini'am modify sfc's create,delete patch, and implement sfc's update patch01:04
Yipeiafter creating a lb, the amphora can be startup successfully01:05
Yipeibut its IP in management network is not ping-able01:05
zhiyuanto xiulin, Joe told me last night that our sfc deletion had some problems. I will talk to you offline.01:05
Yipeimaking the vip cannot be plugged via AmphoraAPI01:06
zhiyuancan it retrieve the IP via DHCP?01:06
Yipeiyes01:06
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Yipeii can see it through neutron port list in local and central neutron01:07
zhiyuanso the VM can ping the DHCP port, but not the interfaces in management network, is that right?01:07
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Yipeii think the vm can ping the dhcp port, but its interface in management network is not ping-able in default network namespace01:08
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zhiyuanis it because of the security group?01:09
Yipeiin original octavia, its interface in management network is ping-able from default network namespace01:09
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zhiyuanseem like it's one way ping-able01:09
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zhiyuanVM can ping default network namespace, default network namespace cannot ping VM01:10
zhiyuanhi, ronghui01:11
Yipeito zhiyuan, the vm can ping the dhcp port in management network namespace01:11
RonghUIhello01:12
zhiyuanto ronghui, we are updating the development progress01:12
Yipeibut default network namespace cannot ping vm01:12
zhiyuanto yipei, yes, so I say "one way ping-able"01:12
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RonghUIok01:13
Yipeito zhiyuan, i see01:13
zhiyuanit's possible if there are some rules rejecting the income packets to VM01:13
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Yipeiso you mean the security group of the interface?01:14
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zhiyuanto yipei, yes, or say the security group of the port01:15
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Yipeii see01:15
Yipeii will check it01:15
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zhiyuanok01:17
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zhiyuanto ronghui, I see xiongqiu has updated the patch for QoS, but the py35 the fails.01:18
RonghUIyes  i will tell him to update the patch and fix this problem01:19
zhiyuanthanks :)01:19
zhiyuanok, let's move to the next topic01:20
zhiyuan#topic storyboard01:20
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zhiyuanin the last meeting, Joe mentioned storyboard. have you tried it out?01:21
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zhiyuanStoryboard introduces story and task. We can map story to bug/blueprint in launchpad, so task can help us trace the work items for solving a bug or implementing a blueprint01:26
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zhiyuanand the comment of storyboard supports markdown01:27
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yinxiulinit is sounds good01:28
zhiyuansimilar to bug/blueprint in launchpad, we can also link our patch to the story page, here is how to do that01:29
zhiyuan#link https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html#development-workflow01:30
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zhiyuanto xiulin, yes, but it seems that we cannot add attachement to the comments in storyboard, in launchpad we can do that.`01:31
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yinxiulinWhat a pity01:32
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zhiyuanyesterday I tried to create a story in the story sandbox, we can compare the difference between these two tools:01:35
zhiyuanhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/tricircle/+bug/169191801:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1691918 in Tricircle "Local FIP not created after central FIP creation" [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Zhiyuan Cai (luckyvega-g)01:35
zhiyuanhttps://storyboard-dev.openstack.org/#!/story/12101:35
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zhiyuantricircle is not registered in the storyboard, so the story is under openstack-dev/sandbox project01:36
yinxiulinthe story's UI look good01:37
zhiyuanagree :)01:38
zhiyuanmaybe after Joe is back we can start a vote whether to migrate to storyboard01:39
zhiyuan#topic open discussion01:39
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zhiyuanother topic?01:40
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RonghUIno for me01:40
Yipeino for me01:40
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yinxiulinfor sfc's deleteion, what about judge  other port chain is use the ppg and fc ,if use ,not delete01:42
zhiyuannot that easy, there may be two port chains using the same ppg being deleted01:43
zhiyuanthey both see the ppg is used by other pc, so not delete the ppg01:44
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zhiyuanactually we don't need to check, we will get a exception if the ppg is in use01:45
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zhiyuanso one method is to retry deletion01:46
zhiyuandelete, if get exception, delete again after some sleep01:46
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yinxiulinif get a exception, mean other port chain in use, why need retry,?01:48
zhiyuansimilar reason, if two port chains are being deleted, both of them may get the exception01:48
yinxiulinok, understand01:49
zhiyuanthat's why we need some sleep before the retry01:49
yinxiulini will try it01:49
zhiyuanfine :)01:49
zhiyuanok, let's end the meeting01:50
zhiyuan#endmeeting01:50
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zhiyuanbye01:50
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acoles#startmeeting swift07:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 14 07:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is acoles. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.07:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'07:00
acolesHi who is here for the swift meeting?07:00
hieulqo/07:00
m_kazuhiroo/07:00
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mahatichello!07:00
tovin07_o/07:00
mattoliverauo/07:00
kota_hello07:00
psachino/07:01
jefflio/07:01
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acolesgood morning/afternoon/evening07:02
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rledisezhi07:02
mahaticgood morning07:02
jeffliGood afternoon!07:02
acolesThanks for attending this meeting, the agenda is here ...07:02
acoles#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift07:03
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acolesnote that the agenda for this meeting (0700) is in the right hand column07:03
mattoliverauwelcome to the second other meeting :)07:03
mahaticnotmyname doesn't want it to be called anything other than "Swift meeting" ;)07:03
acolesmattoliverau: yes, this is the second in our new 0700UTC meeting slot07:04
mahaticand I second that07:04
mahaticoic, like that07:04
acolesmahatic: yes, this is the "0700 swift meeting"07:04
mattoliveraushame we can't call it the 007 meeting ;)07:04
mattoliverauor can we? ;)07:05
kota_lol07:05
acolesRather than duplicating the agenda for the 2100 meeting I tried to select some topics that would involve people likely to be here at this time07:05
mahaticlol, looks like it07:05
kota_mattoliverau: that sounds secret07:05
mattoliverauacoles: nice07:05
mattoliveraukota_:  lol, top secret07:05
acolesmattoliverau: call it what you like, just showing up is great :)07:05
mahaticacoles: yup, looks good07:05
acolesso to start with there are some pieces of information to share...07:06
acoles#topic Denver PTG07:06
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* acoles is learning the meeting bot commands :)07:06
acolesin case you missed the announcement, the PTG in Denver now has dates and a hotel block confirmed07:07
acoles#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118002.html07:07
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acolesweek of 11th - 15th September07:07
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mattoliveraucool07:07
acolesthis is the 'dedicated developer gathering', so swift will have 3 full days of meeting room allocated07:08
acoleson Weds-Thurs07:08
mattoliverautho I don't think I'll be there, not going to self fund cause I'm unemployed.. and if I do happen to have a new job by then, it might be too late (or early) to ask for travekl :(07:08
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mahaticthanks for the reminder07:08
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acolesMon & Tues will be for 'cross project' or 'inter project' work07:08
mahaticthough it's unlikely that I'd attend07:09
acolesmattoliverau: :(07:09
acolesmahatic: :( too!07:09
mattoliverauyeah, mahatic  and I will just do our own one... virtually :)07:09
mahaticI know, too bad!07:09
mahaticmattoliverau: it's a deal! ;)07:09
acolesthe PTG should IMHO be more productive than the forum in Boston due to us having more dedicated meeting times07:09
mattoliverau+107:10
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kota_I expects that07:10
mahatic+1 I'd expect that as well07:10
mattoliverauthe last PTG was great07:10
acolesthere is a tentative room schedule here tentative room allocation plan07:10
acoles#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xmOdT6uZ5XqViActr5sBOaz_mEgjKSCY7NEWcAEcT-A/edit#gid=39724131207:10
mattoliverauso if you can be there, try to be :)07:10
acolesso, for those who may be able to attend, start making plans07:11
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acolesany questions on the ptg?07:11
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mattoliveraunot at this point07:11
acolesok07:12
acoles#topic Sydney summit call for presentations07:12
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mattoliveraunow thiis one I hope I can at least self fund.. so come to my home country :)07:12
acolesbriefly, the Sydney summit (November) call for presentations is open07:12
mahatic:)  mattoliverau nice!07:12
acoles#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/call-for-presentations/07:12
acolesmattoliverau: come to your home??07:13
mattoliverausure!07:13
mahatic:D07:13
acolesoh , country! (line wrapped for me after home!)07:13
mattoliveraucome visit the beac house :(07:13
mattoliverau:)07:13
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acolesmoving on...07:13
acoles#topic deprecating known-bad EC policy07:13
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acolesyou should be aware of patch 46810507:14
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acolespatchbot? bah, you let me down!07:14
mattoliveraulol07:14
acoles#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468105/07:14
mahaticlol07:14
mattoliverauand notmyname also send a mailing list about it07:14
mahaticyeah07:14
mattoliverau#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118242.html07:14
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acolesnotmyname promised me patchbot would be here to hold my hand :)07:15
acolesmattoliverau: thanks07:15
acolesand that email has also gone to the ops ML07:15
acoles#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2017-June/013735.html07:15
mattoliverauoh yeah07:15
acoleswe have discussed this in previous meetings, but it's worth bringing up again, in case any one has questions/concerns07:16
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acolesin summary, once that patch lands, swift services will not start if there are known bad polices *that have not been deprecated*07:16
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acolesso that is likely to be in the next release of Swift07:17
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acolesif you or your customers are using the known-bad isa-l-rs-vand configuration then they MUST deprecate it and really should be moving data away from it07:18
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acolesany questions?07:18
mahaticokay. Looks like the change could use some eyes, unless we're deliberately waiting to merge it07:18
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acolesmahatic: that is a good point, it might be one of those patches that we like to collect several +2 to be sure that the community as a whole has adopted the change07:19
psachinacoles: Is it documented?07:19
acolespsachin: that's also a great question!07:20
mahaticacoles: yeah, sounds good07:20
acolesI don't see any doc changes in that patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468105/07:20
acoleswe have been alerting the bad policies for a while, so maybe there is an existing doc warning07:21
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mahaticshouldn't the "UpgradeImpact" tag in commit msg trigger some doc changes?07:21
acolesnope I do not yet find any doc07:21
acolesok, well there's a potential review comment that could be left on gerrit07:22
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mattoliveraui think it had deprication warning in the changelog07:22
mattoliveraui thought07:22
acolesmahatic: no I don't think anything automatic happens as a result of UpgradeImpact - the tag is there for users to grep and find likely ugrade issues07:23
mattoliverauand we log the warning, I also thohught07:23
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kota_perhaps, it's good to add the info to doc/source/overview_erasure_code.rst?07:23
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mattoliverauyeah, thats where I was just looking but couldn't see antthing07:23
acolesmattoliverau: right, it is in the changelog but it does feel like the EC docs should say 'don't use this config'07:23
mahaticacoles: ah okay07:23
* kota_ is searching the word about that07:23
mattoliverau+10007:23
acolesmaybe they do and I don't see it07:23
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acoleskota_: +107:24
acoleswould someone volunteer to leave a comment on the pacth re docs?07:24
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mahaticI'll do it07:24
mattoliveraumahatic: thanks07:24
acolesmahatic: thank you07:25
psachinmahatic: +1 acoles +107:25
acolespsachin: thanks for raising that issue07:25
acolesok, let's move on07:25
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acoles#topic doc changes07:25
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acolescontinuing the docs theme...07:26
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acolesThis is a heads-up for forthcoming changes in the way openstack docs are maintained. Previously the bulk of07:26
acolesdocs was maintained by the docs team, but with changing resources they have decided to move more of the docs07:26
acolesover to individual projects. So project teams will be taking more responsibility for maintaining docs.07:26
* acoles prepared that statement earlier :)07:26
acoleshere's the openstack spec for the changes07:27
acoles#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/07:27
mahaticlol, thumbs up for the prep07:27
acolessummary - we, swift team, will be maintaining more docs in the future07:27
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acolesswift already has install guide and api ref in swift repo, as well as the longer standing docs tree07:27
mattoliverauyeah most the doc team where laid off with me :(07:28
kota_which kind of docs will be in?07:28
acolesbut we will also get the admin guide and swiftclient will get the CLI reference, if I understand things correctly07:28
kota_as a new ones07:28
kota_oic07:28
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acolesthere is also a quite lengthy etherpad detailing the implications for each project...07:29
acoles#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/doc-migration-tracking07:29
acoleskota_: listed there ^^07:29
kota_thx07:29
acolesAFAICT part of the plan will be to unify the various docs under a single doc/ dir07:29
acolesI expect that when this move happens we may discover that some of the docs we inherit will need some updating07:29
mattoliveraunow that would be awesome. 1 doc tree not a million07:30
acolesso that's a heads-up - it has not happened yet but it is coming07:30
acolesmattoliverau: agree07:30
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acolesok, tovin07_ added a topic to agenda so I want to skip to that before we get short on time07:31
acoles#topic osprofiler in swift07:31
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tovin07_yes07:31
tovin07_thanks acoles07:31
acolestovin07_: what's up? can you tell us a little about the patch?07:31
tovin07_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468316/07:31
tovin07_I'll try to integrate osprofiler into swift07:32
tovin07_osprofiler is an distributed tracing lib in openstack07:32
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tovin07_it's in nova, cinder, glance, keystone, neutron, heat,.. already07:33
tovin07_the key thing here is that osprofiler can trace request across openstack services07:33
tovin07_such as a request come from nova -> keystone -> glance -> cinder ....07:34
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acolestovin07_: is it using request id for that?07:34
tovin07_nope07:34
tovin07_an example in magnum07:35
tovin07_#link https://tovin07.github.io/magnum/cluster-create-with-50-iteration-limit.html07:35
tovin07_it traces across magnum, keystone, nova, heat07:36
tovin07_and traces http, rpc and db calls07:36
kota_my brief understang is for osprofiler is that it is for making performance analytics inside of component, right?07:37
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tovin07_kota_, yes, it's can be used to trouble-shooting as well07:37
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kota_and at the fist time, i'm feeling swift already has x_profile middelware for such a purpose.07:38
tovin07_recently, I discussed with notmyname here http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-swift/%23openstack-swift.2017-05-03.log.html#t2017-05-03T16:05:1707:38
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kota_i'm at natural yet07:38
tovin07_yes, I see, however, x-profile works with swift only07:39
kota_tovin07_: yes07:39
kota_so that sounds like swift logger vs oslo logging tome07:39
kota_to me07:39
kota_osprofiler is one of openstack "official"(?) analytics tool07:40
acolesI see the patch has a link to the openstack spec for osprofiler07:40
kota_but swift has already that one07:40
acoles#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103825/07:40
psachintovin07_: osprofiler only traces requests or it can be used to trace background task like object replication?07:40
acolestovin07_: has the patch changed since the irc conversation with notmyname , in terms of dependencies?07:41
tovin07_kota_, yes, https://github.com/openstack/osprofiler07:41
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hieulqacoles, yes, we only added osprofiler as new dependency, no oslo.config...07:42
hieulqand we only added osprofiler into test-requirements07:43
tovin07_psachin, currently, it traces requests (db, http, rpc), we also have plan to make osprofiler traces background tasks and periodic tasks as well07:43
mattoliverauits interesting, how can we test it? do I need to use devstack or something?07:44
mahatic+107:44
mattoliveraucan it grow other swift metrics? ie, maybe intergrate x-profier into it07:44
acolestovin07_: what is different about the swift middleware vs middleware for other projects? just curious that there isn't a single generic middleware for all services?07:44
psachintovin07_: Thats great. Thanks.07:45
hieulqmattoliverau, just enable it via swift configuration file and use OSC cli along with --profile option07:45
mattoliveraucool07:45
acoleshieulq: but presumably there is some infrastructure needed for osprofiler to gather/publish metrics?07:46
mattoliverauacoles: I assume it needs to intergrate into project specific things, like our db calls etc07:46
tovin07_acoles, i don't quite understand your question, can you make it clearer07:46
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hieulqacoles, default is rabbitmq, but you can use ceilometer, redis, mongodb, ELK..07:46
mattoliverauhieulq, tovin07_ : swift can also output statsd, I wonder if we can get performance metrix out via there too.07:47
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acolestovin07_: it may be a stupid question ;) but for example with keystone we just include keystonemiddleware same as every other project, but here we have a swift specific middleware implementation07:47
hieulqacoles, here is the list of backend drivers now: https://github.com/openstack/osprofiler/tree/master/osprofiler/drivers07:47
kota_hieulq: neither of those are used in swift in default07:48
acoleshieulq: thanks07:48
hieulqmattoliverau, yeah, we may do it in next cycles07:48
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tovin07_acoles, oh yes, because of dependencies --> I have to "custom" osprofiler middleware a little bits for swift07:49
acolestovin07_: got it, makes sense07:49
hieulqkota_, yes, but if users used swift as back-end or along with other projects, we have rabbitmq as default07:50
acolestovin07_: so what do you need at this point in time? is the patch ready for reviewing?07:50
hieulqand in case we use swift stand-alone, at least users need redis/mongo/etc to store the traces07:50
tovin07_acoles, yes, it is ready for reviewing now07:50
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acolesok community, take note and pls review if you can ^^07:51
hieulqthanks :)07:52
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mattoliverauok.. so I don't have redis or mongo.. so thatll be an extra stumbling block for me. but i'll try and loop round to it when I get some time.07:52
tovin07_acoles, thanks :D07:52
mattoliverauif only there was a swift driver :P07:52
acolestovin07_: it will help reviewers if there is a doc somewhere showing how to set up the other infrastructure (rabbitmq or whatever is simplest) - not all swift devs are familar with installing other openstack services since swift often runs standalone (or with only keystone)07:53
kota_mattoliverau: +107:53
mahaticacoles: yup, +10007:53
kota_mattoliverau: it seeems to make us easy to test in functional or probe07:53
mattoliveraukota_: yeah07:54
tovin07_acoles, yes, for simplest case, you can test it with redis or mongodb07:54
acolesok, time is passing - thank you tovin07_ and hieulq for coming along to discuss osprofiler07:54
mattoliverauyeah thanks hieulq  and tovin07_07:54
acoles#topic priority reviews07:54
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hieulqthanks guys07:54
acolesvery quickly, do we have any updates on progress on these patches...07:55
acolesMake eventlet.tpool's thread count configurable in...07:55
acoles#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289664/07:55
mattoliverauI've pushed up a new version. but still doing a bit of testing as I was getting the wrong behaviour on my SAIOs..07:55
acolesmattoliverau: cschwede did you get chance to look at that?07:55
acolesmattoliverau: oh, great, thanks!07:55
mahaticmattoliverau: nice07:56
acolesThis one we discussed at last 0700 meeting has merged ... ssync failing to sync expired object07:56
acoles#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456921/07:56
acolesbut rledisez is fixing another ssync bug07:56
acoles#link https://review.openstack.org/47265907:56
acoleswhich is for bug07:56
acoles#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/165232307:56
openstackLaunchpad bug 1652323 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "ssync syncs an expired object as a tombstone" [Medium,Confirmed]07:56
rledisezyep. i have the bugfix, i need to write tests07:56
acolesrledisez: do you need reviews/help?07:57
acolesrledisez: ok :) tests!07:57
acolesrledisez: I'll try to help with that07:57
rledisezbetter to wait i wrote tests i think, but the patch is really small so if you want to have a look, it's good to see if i'm in the right direction07:57
mattoliverauIf I have some time later this week, I'll loop round and try and take a look.. but can't promise atm.07:57
acolesrledisez: name_lookup/domain_remap bugs - any more bugs to fix there?07:57
rledisezone to come, but not pushed yet. and also i"'ll work on func test soon07:58
acolesrledisez: ack I will wait for you to push another version of patch - first glance it looked ok07:58
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rledisezacoles: ok, good to know, thx07:58
acolesring part power increase07:58
acoles#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/337297/07:58
acolesany progress?07:58
acolescschwede: ^^ ?07:58
mattoliverauwe should just merge the damn tihing ;)07:59
mahaticlooks like cschwede is not around07:59
mattoliveraulast i heard tim was going back and forward on it, but that was quite a whle ago07:59
acolesok, NM, well time is up anyway07:59
acoles#topic next meeting07:59
acolesNext 0700UTC meeting will be on June 28th07:59
acolesNext 2100UTC meeting is today07:59
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rledisezthx acoles for chairing :)07:59
mattoliverau+108:00
acolesrledisez: thanks! phew08:00
kota_thanks acoles08:00
jeffliGood night rledisez08:00
acolesthank you for coming and working on swift08:00
acoles#endmeeting08:00
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rhochmuth#startmeeting monasca14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 14 14:00:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rhochmuth. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'monasca'14:01
rhochmutho/14:01
kamil_o/14:01
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harukio/14:01
kojio/14:01
kamil_looks empty today14:01
shinya_kwbto/14:01
Fdaisukeo/14:01
rhochmuthno agenda is listed today in etherpad14:01
rhochmuthhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda14:01
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rhochmuthhello everyone14:01
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rhochmuthwe should probably spend a few minutes on an agenda or any topics that folks would like to cover today14:02
rhochmuthdoes anyone have some items?14:02
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kamil_nope14:02
kojii have one review14:03
kojihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/46787714:03
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kojithis is a bug fix for slack notification14:04
rhochmuththanks koji14:04
rhochmuthdo you have any output from this plugin14:04
rhochmuthAlso, wanted to point out, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461917/14:05
rhochmuthI was wondering how close your slack plugin was to the hipchat one14:05
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rhochmuthnot that i'm using that as a criteria, i was just wondering if you've looked at that plugin14:05
rhochmuthtim had posted an image of the output at, http://imgur.com/TdcFv6V14:06
rhochmuthas an example14:06
kojisorry, i didn't check the hipchat one14:06
rhochmuthno problem14:06
rhochmuththese plugins can evolve separately, but it woudl be nice to have some level of consistency between then if possible and it makes sense14:07
kojiat this moment, the slack plugin outputs the alarm information as json14:07
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kojii agree14:07
rhochmuthyeah, that is busted14:07
rhochmuthunfortunately, i couldn't get the original developer to resolve that when he was still here14:07
rhochmuthand i thought the intention was that he was going to commit the initial review and then fix it14:08
rhochmuthunfortunately, after the initial review/merge he didn't come back14:08
rhochmuthi guess we scared him away14:08
rhochmuthso, i'll take a look at this one14:09
rhochmuthwe've also been starting to use slack14:09
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rhochmuthso possibly i can get this plugin deployed14:09
rhochmuthi'll check on that this morning14:09
kojithanks!14:09
kojias i wrote in the commit comment, the plugin of current master doesn't work14:10
rhochmuthtimothyb89 might be able to take a look and have some suggesstions14:10
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kojiok, i'll wait for your comments :)14:11
jgrasslero/14:12
rhochmuthnote, artur had also left an interesting comment recently14:12
rhochmuthhi jgrassler14:12
jgrasslerSorry I'm a bit late, hopefully not too late for adding a little bit to the agenda: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47351914:12
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jgrasslerTomasz suggested I bring this up in today's meeting :-)14:12
rhochmuthnp, there wasn't an agenda created14:12
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rhochmuthso we are in open discussion right no14:13
rhochmuthkoji: can we move on or do you have more?14:13
kojinothing about the review14:13
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rhochmuthok, let's move on then14:14
rhochmuththank koji14:14
kojithanks, too14:14
rhochmuthjgrassler: you have the floor14:14
jgrasslerrhochmuth: thanks :-)14:14
jgrasslerSo Tomasz and me were bouncing ideas back and forth about how to figure out the user monasca-agent runs as14:15
jgrasslerWe didn't really like the options we came up with so we'd like to ask for additional opinions14:15
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rhochmuthok14:15
rhochmuthassujming that this is related too, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473519/14:15
jgrasslerYes14:16
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jgrasslerAs far as I'm concerned I'd prefer getting the plumbing in place to make the command line switches available in the plugins14:16
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jgrasslerThe alternative would be what the postfix plugin in monasca_setup currently does: use the user that owns /etc/monasca/agent/agent.yaml14:18
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jgrasslerThoughts?14:18
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jgrasslerRight now (in the interest of getting this done in finite time) I'd prefer the postfix plugin's approach.14:18
rhochmuthi can see an argument for that14:19
jgrasslerI don't know if there are currently plans underway to switch to oslo for option processing, but if there are I'd wait until then rather than introduce a lot of plumbing that will eventually get ripped out anyway.14:19
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rhochmuthi'm not coming up with great counter arguments14:19
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rhochmuthi don't have any specific requests for switching the agent to oslo14:20
rhochmuthbut, if my memory serves me correctly, i'm guessing this topic has come up14:20
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rhochmuthalthoguh there is, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458541/1214:22
jgrasslerIndeed. So definitely not a good idea to add extra plumbing right now...14:22
rhochmuthwell, that is specific to the ovs plugin14:23
jgrasslerOh, right...14:23
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rhochmuthtomasz also added, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468843/14:23
rhochmuthwhich is for the libvirt plugin14:24
jgrasslerYeah, but still nothing that would affect agent configuration.14:24
rhochmuthcorrect14:24
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jgrasslerStill, if I can get away with it I'd prefer the postfix plugin's approach for now (with something proper deferred until it's clearer what command line parameter processing will look like)14:26
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rhochmuthsounds good to me14:26
jgrasslerOk. Then I'll implement that in the review and discuss it with Tomasz tomorrow. Thanks!14:27
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rhochmuthyour welcome14:27
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rhochmuthi guess we can move on to the next topic14:27
rhochmuthif anyone has any additional topics then we have plenty of time remaining14:28
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rhochmuthok, i think we'll call it for the day14:29
rhochmuththanks everyone14:29
kamil_thanks and bye14:29
rhochmuthsee you next week14:29
harukithx14:29
kojithanks14:29
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jgrasslerSee you!14:29
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rhochmuth#endmeeting14:29
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Jun 14 14:29:32 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:29
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smcginnis#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 14 16:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
smcginnisbswartz: Only just16:00
Swansonhello16:00
_alastor_o/16:00
smcginnisping: dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_ baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy16:00
smcginnisviks ketonne abishop sivn16:00
bswartz.o/16:00
jgriffithhola16:00
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xyang1Hi16:00
mdovgalhi16:00
tommylikehuhi16:00
jungleboyjo/16:00
jungleboyj@!16:00
pewpjungleboyj ( ^_^)/16:00
wxy|hi16:00
e0nehi16:00
jgriffithpewp16:00
rfolcoo/16:00
scottdahey16:00
potso/16:01
jgriffitherrr "poop"16:01
lhx__o/16:01
jungleboyj@!b jgriffith16:01
pewpjungleboyj (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ︵ ╯(°□° ╯) jgriffith16:01
smcginnis#topic Announcements16:01
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smcginnis#info P-2 was cut last week16:01
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smcginnisWe should now be focusing on finishing up new features and fixing bugs.16:02
smcginnisPSA: tooz has been changed by devstack to now use the etcd driver instead of local file16:03
smcginnisSo if you see anything odd, keep that in mind.16:03
smcginnis_alastor_ found a bug in the case where SERVICE_HOST=127.0.0.116:03
smcginnisI have a patch in to devstack to fix that, but it has not merged yet.16:03
rajinir0/16:03
xyang1smcginnis: when was that merged16:03
smcginnisxyang1: The change in devstack?16:04
xyang1smcginnis: yes16:04
smcginnisxyang1: I'm not entirely sure, but I think it was just a few days ago.16:04
xyang1Ok16:04
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tbarronhi16:05
smcginnisI wasn't aware of it until things broke, but I suppose it's good to get testing coverage on that if that is the way of the future.16:05
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smcginnis#info PTG registration is now open.16:05
smcginnis#link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/project-teams-gathering-denver-2017-tickets-3321938908716:05
smcginnisReal far for jgriffith, but hopefully he can make it. :)16:05
jgriffithYeah, trying to book travel now :)16:06
e0nesmcginnis: it's real far for everybody outside US:(16:06
jgriffithBMW express16:06
jungleboyjCan we all stay at your house jgriffith ?16:06
jgriffithsure16:06
smcginnise0ne: Yeah...16:06
jgriffithyou have to sleep in the barn though16:06
smcginnise0ne: Hopefully the next one is better.16:06
jgriffithand it is an hour+ to the venue16:06
smcginnisjgriffith: I like horses.16:06
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tommylikehulol16:07
e0ne:)16:07
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  :-)16:07
xyang1jgriffith: make sure you don't fly out of Denver that week:)16:07
smcginnisIf I remember right, they wanted to do the first couple in the US to get things started, then start moving the PTG around more.16:07
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SwansonDenver's officail slogan: We're the counterpoint to all the beauty of the Rocky Mountains.16:07
SwansonOfficial16:07
smcginnisHey now. :)16:08
jgriffithSwanson ha!16:08
jgriffiththat's not too far off16:08
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smcginnis#topic IBM KVM on Power CI16:08
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jgriffithbut there are worse places... much worse16:08
jgriffithin co16:08
smcginnisTrue16:08
smcginnisrfolco: Hi.16:08
rfolcohi16:08
smcginnisrfolco: Usually don't have to ask to run CI, but I appreciate it.16:08
rfolco:)16:08
lhx__jgriffith, where are you from, guy?16:09
rfolcoYeah... In spite of not being a hypervisor sensitive project, we consider cinder as ‘platform’ sensitive.16:09
smcginnisrfolco: Looks like this is a little special case. ;)16:09
rfolcoWe want to avoid breakages like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457233/, fixed later on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467726/.16:09
rfolcoThere might be other entry points for breaking Power platform, so reporting on cinder would help us take action before the change merges.16:09
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smcginnisrfolco: So I would recommend running against os-brick patches actually.16:09
smcginnisrfolco: To catch those before we release an update to that library.16:10
rfolcocorrect me if I am wrong.... os-brick is just one entry point for breaking the code here16:10
smcginnisrfolco: True!16:10
smcginnisrfolco: Both os-brick and cinder would be best, but if you need to limit what you can do, I think you will get more bang for your buck testing against os-brick.16:11
smcginnisBut definitely - we have many places where we can break things. :)16:11
rfolcook, honestly for cinder we have found ZERO bugs so far in 4 years16:11
rfolcoos-brick was the first case16:11
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smcginnisNot too bad a track record, I guess.16:12
jungleboyjCinder is quite perfect in every way.16:12
smcginnisrfolco: So I guess to officially answer your agenda question - permission granted. :)16:12
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rfolcodoes this include os-brick and cinder right ?16:13
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smcginnisrfolco: Yeah, one or the other or both is fine with me.16:13
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rfolcoawesome, we commit to monitor and not to produce much noise in case of failures, we just disable it.16:14
rfolcothanks !!16:14
smcginnisrfolco: Perfect, thanks!16:14
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smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:14
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smcginnisjgriffith: Anything to bring up with attach_v2?16:14
jungleboyjrfolco: Thanks for wanting to add CI.  :-)16:14
jgriffithsmcginnis yes please16:15
eharneyCeph CI should be functional again now16:15
smcginniseharney: +116:15
lhx__what that means?16:15
jungleboyjeharney:  Good news!16:15
smcginnislhx__: Which part?16:16
lhx__smcginnis, Ceph CI16:16
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smcginnislhx__: There were problems with tempest tests causing the ceph CI to always fail.16:17
smcginnislhx__: They've been fixed now so patches are not blocked by it.16:17
smcginnisBy "fixed" I guess we mean "worked around"/16:17
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lhx__smcginnis, okay for that :)16:18
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jgriffithready?16:19
smcginnisjgriffith: Yes please.16:19
jgriffith#topic attach v2 status16:19
jgriffithbah who cares16:19
jgriffithSo...16:19
jgriffithwe're getting pretty close on the V2 attach stuff16:20
smcginnis#topic Attach v2 changes16:20
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jgriffithI just pushed a patch to deal with the live-migrate stuff16:20
jgriffithsmcginnis show off!16:20
smcginnis#chair jgriffith16:20
* jgriffith has forgotten all of that foo16:20
openstackCurrent chairs: jgriffith smcginnis16:20
smcginnis:P16:20
jgriffithThere's one sticky thing we still have to figure out.. and that's the whole "shared connection" mess16:20
jgriffithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/472796/16:20
ildikovhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/169700816:21
openstackLaunchpad bug 1697008 in Cinder "attach_delete removes export when multiple connections exist" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Steve Noyes (steve-noyes)16:21
smcginnisildikov: Midnight?16:21
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ildikovsmcginnis: a bit after :)16:21
jgriffithSo the solution initially was that a driver would get called on term connection and it would be up to that driver to respond if it was safe for brick to kill/delete that connection or not16:21
smcginnisjgriffith: We will have multiple attachment records in the DB even if they all share the same connection, right?16:22
jgriffithThe problem is that I don't have access to a backend that doe this sort of thing or cares about it16:22
jgriffithsmcginnis correct16:22
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jgriffithI need some help from somebody with one of those backends to help verify a good solution here that will also work with multi-attach16:22
smcginnisjgriffith: Can't we just pass in that count to the driver? Or use that in the manager to recognize that there are multiple?16:22
jungleboyjjgriffith: Who's backend does that?16:22
ildikovdon't we have the problem or some version of it even in case of using LVM?16:23
jgriffithI know 3par and pure fall into those categories16:23
* smcginnis looks at Swanson 16:23
jgriffithpatrickeast ^^16:23
jgriffithahh... Swanson !!16:23
jgriffithYou are now my target!16:23
smcginnismwaaahaahaaa16:23
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jgriffithso I need some help figuring those details out16:24
jgriffithif folks ignore me and their driver breaks... well; sorry charlie :)16:24
patrickeastAh yea, I'll take a look16:24
ildikovjgriffith: :)16:24
ildikovpatrickeast: tnx!16:24
jgriffithIf you could review the migration patch too that would be great (you==everyone)16:24
jgriffithIt's ugly, but I can only put so much lipstick on that pig16:25
SwansonWhich patch?16:25
jgriffithor the other anology, "don't try to make a pig sing, it sounds awful and the pig just gets annoyed"16:25
Swansonthe hell?16:25
jgriffithSwanson https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472786/16:25
* jungleboyj needed the laugh. Thanks jgriffith 16:26
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Swansonthx16:26
jgriffithIf you haven't experienced the migration code "enjoy"16:26
smcginnishah16:26
jgriffithI tried to add a bunch of comments so hopefully it will help16:26
SwansonOh, I've peeked at it.16:27
SwansonThen went blind.16:27
jgriffithThat's what I've got for now.  Just going to need some active involvement from folks here in the final few days of this saga16:27
smcginnisjgriffith: Thanks16:27
smcginnisLooks like some good progress on the Nova side too.16:28
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ildikovwe would love to get the Nova support in place for Pike16:28
jungleboyjYay!16:28
jungleboyjildikov:  +216:28
ildikovso pretty please, sugar or lipstick or whatever on top! :)16:28
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smcginnis:D16:28
smcginnisCool, anything else today? Or can we end early?16:29
smcginnis(that usually ends up meaning we go to the end)16:29
jungleboyjBite your tongue!16:29
SwansonSo, repl v3....16:29
smcginnis\ban Swanson16:29
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SwansonI kid I kid16:29
* jungleboyj sends Swanson to the corner16:30
smcginnisSwanson: Go figure out migration. :)16:30
tommylikehulol16:30
lhx__lol16:30
bswartzI think it's /mode +b Swanson16:30
smcginnisbswartz: Hah, thanks for the tip.16:30
smcginnisAlrighty, let's wrap up early this week. Thanks everyone.16:31
tommylikehuthanks16:31
jungleboyjThanks!16:31
smcginnis#endmeeting16:31
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lhx__thanks16:31
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bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 14 18:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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bh526r#topic Roll Call18:00
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bh526r#info Bin Hu18:00
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pcarver#info Paul Carver18:02
bh526rHi Paul18:03
bh526rIt's quiet18:03
bh526rOnly you and I18:03
bh526rJin just submitted a new patch, and you +1'ed it.18:03
pcarverI'm still working on reading through Sukhdev's and Ian's documents carefully.18:04
bh526rGood.18:04
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bh526rI will approve and merge Jin's patch, if no other concern18:05
pcarverSure, I don't see any reason not to.18:05
bh526rBTW, is your calendar up to date? I will share something with you and Liza shortly, and perhaps we discuss it internally first.18:06
jinli#info JinLi18:06
bh526r#topic Pike Status18:06
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pcarverYes, it's always up to date.18:06
bh526r#info Jin has submitted a new patchset #18.18:07
bh526r#info We are in good shape to approve it and merge it.18:07
bh526r#info Bin will take action to approve and merge it.18:07
bh526r#info No other update18:07
bh526rPaul, do you have anything else to discuss?18:08
pcarverNo18:08
bh526rIf no, I will just adjourn the meeting18:08
bh526r#info No other business, meeting adjourned18:08
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bh526r#endmeeting18:09
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bh526rThank you Paul, and talk to you soon18:09
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pcarversee you next week18:11
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SotKanyone around for a belated storyboard meeting?19:07
fungiall i have is double-checking my facts on my response to the release automation thread19:07
fungibut we can just do that in #storyboard if nobody has anything that screams "meeting"19:08
* SotK has nothing that is screaming meeting, and I think we are low on folk today19:09
fungiseems that way. i vote skip the meeting19:09
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SotK+1, if anyone turns up looking, I'll be around in #storyboard19:11
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notmynameswift team meeting time21:00
notmyname#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jun 14 21:00:16 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'21:00
notmynamewho's here for the swift team meeting?21:00
mattoliverauo/21:00
jrichlihere21:00
kota_hi21:00
m_kazuhiroo/21:00
rledisezhi o/21:00
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acoleshello21:00
joeljwrighto/21:00
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notmynamewelcome21:01
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tdasilvahello21:01
notmynametimburke: clayg: torgomatic: courtesy ping21:03
timburkei'm here, i'm here21:03
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notmynameagenda is on the left hand side of...21:03
notmyname#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift21:03
notmynamethis is the 2100 meeting21:04
notmynameacoles: thank you for leading the 0700 meeting earlier today21:04
mattoliverau+121:04
notmynamelog for that meeting can be seen at21:04
notmyname#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-06-14-07.00.log.html21:04
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notmynamesome duplicate housekeeping in this meeting, but hopefully not too much after that...21:05
acolesnotmyname: NP21:05
notmyname#topic housekeeping/announcements21:05
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notmynamethe Denver PTG is open for registration, including a hotel block21:05
notmynamedetails at21:05
notmyname#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118002.html21:05
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notmynameswift will have a room for wednesday through friday (3 full days) in addition to the cross-project topics on monday and tuesday21:06
notmynameI would like to especially encourage ops people to attend the PTG (and if you have to make a choice, choose the PTG)21:06
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notmynamerledisez: this includes you :-)21:07
rledisezof course, i'll be here :)21:07
rledisezand i'll try to bring alecuyer too (need to check with him he'll be availbale)21:07
claygmahatic: is funny!21:07
* clayg is reading logs21:07
notmynamerledisez: awesome21:07
claygy'all type slow anyway21:07
notmynamebased on the experiences at the first PTG and the summit/forum, the PTG is vastly more productive for getting swift community work done, and the ops feedback will be valuable at the PTG21:08
notmynameI'm going to try to get one or two of the swiftstack support people to come to the PTG too21:08
claygbasically there's half a dozen people we need from the summit to go to the PTG and then we can stop doing the summit - (jrichli tell briancline)21:08
notmynamehas anyone seen onovy or pavel lately? we need them at the PTG too21:09
jrichlihehe - i will mention the ptg to him.  maybe they will support his going21:09
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mattoliverauLike I said in the 007 meeting, I don't think I'll be there. as I'm not going to self fund while unemployed, and might be too soon if a find a job soon to ask for travel :(21:09
* onovy is here21:09
notmynameonovy: come to Denver for the PTG!21:09
claygmattoliverau: ahhh bummer!21:09
onovywhat is Denver?21:09
mattoliverauBUt yeah, PTG is totally worth it, better then a summit.. tho summit is in my neck of the woods so you should still come ;)21:10
joeljwrightmattoliverau: :(21:10
notmynameonovy: city in the mountains in the middle of the US. the location for the next project team gathering21:10
tdasilvaonovy: a place with a lot of beer breweries21:10
onovynotmyname: just kiddin. Denver is too far from us to be there21:10
notmynameheh21:10
zaitcevPTG fee is $100 still?21:10
onovyno money no funy21:10
notmynameonovy: I understand, although it's unfortunate21:10
notmynamezaitcev: I haven't actually clicked on the registration link yet. I assume so. can anyone confirm?21:11
notmynameonovy: when budgeting swift community travel in the future, so far it seems that the PTG will be more valuable overall than the summit21:11
onovyit looks like "something" is changing in our company and i looks like we are going to deploy whole OpenStack, yea! so maybe we will be able to come to more (physical) meetings21:11
notmynamecool21:11
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notmynamethe other big openstack event is the summit in Sydney. details and CFP are at https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/call-for-presentations/21:12
rlediseznotmyname: zaitcev: yep, it says $10021:12
notmynamerledisez: ack. thanks21:12
onovyso i will try to book PTG for next year21:12
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tdasilvaonovy: I think PTG next year might be in Europe, so that might help21:12
onovytdasilva: cool!21:12
rlediseztdasilva: \o/21:12
mattoliverau\o/ sydney, that should be one i can self fund :)21:12
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notmynameany questions on these events? anything I can track down for anyone?21:13
rlediseznotmyname: i'm just interested in knowing who's planning to go from the team21:14
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rledisezi heard in boston there were some doubts about travel duration vs summit duration21:15
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notmynamerledisez: for sydney?21:15
mattoliveraurledisez: which one? the summit or ptg?21:15
rlediseztbh, i'm thinking of keeping a talk for vancouver instead of sidney21:15
rledisezsummit, sidney21:15
notmynameyeah, I've got that concern too21:15
notmynameit's a 3 day event that takes 3 days of travel for most of the world21:15
mattoliverauyeah 3 days is way too short21:15
mattoliveraufor flying to the otherside of the world21:16
notmynameI don't know many details for sydney yet. I'll pass them along as soon as I hear them21:16
kota_er - one quick question for ptg, are there some topics on cross/inter project (strongly) related to swift?21:16
acolesmattoliverau: you mean you like to spend *more* than 3 days travelling? ;)21:16
mattoliverauif worse comes to worse, I can be the swift  represntation.. though I'd love to see people :)21:16
jrichlimattoliverau: you have to do that often, right? ;-)21:16
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notmynamekota_: are you wondering if you need to be there for monday and tuesday?21:16
kota_notmyname: yes21:16
mattoliverauacoles: lol21:16
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notmynamewhat do others say, for kota_? (based on the last PTG)21:17
claygkota_: it's a good time to network with -infra people?  maybe pick peoples brains about keystone sessions or oslo something?21:17
mattoliveraujrichli: yup, so welcome to my world if you do it :P21:17
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mattoliveraupersonally I liked it.21:17
kota_clayg: oic, perhaps, I could expect osprofiler session that we had discussed in the 007 meeting21:18
mattoliverauwell I was only there on the tuesday. hallway track was great, and I helped in the requirments stuff, so I could go participate. So depends on what you want to get involved in21:18
notmynameit's not a James Bond meeting!!! (thanks mattoliverau /sarcasm)21:18
claygkota_: yeah that's a pretty good example!21:18
acoleskota_: hehe, "007"21:18
mattoliveraukota_:  it can be at least a good jetlag day or 2 ;)21:19
kota_mattoliverau: exactly21:19
kota_thanks!21:19
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notmynameok, last bit of housekeeping is on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468105/21:19
patchbotpatch 468105 - swift - Require that known-bad EC schemes be deprecated21:19
mattoliveraukota_: good idea21:19
mattoliveraunotmyname: your welcome ;) 007 sounds much better tho :P21:20
notmynamethis is the patch that makes swift processes not start if there's a known-bad EC config21:20
notmynameI sent an email to the mailing lists on monday21:20
acolesnotmyname: I expect you saw from 007(0) meeting the suggestion that we add some docs somewhere (if we dont already hve them) to say 'do not use this scheme'21:20
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notmynameacoles: yes, and mahatic left that comment in gerrit. it's a good idea21:21
acolesoh good, thanks to mahatic21:21
timburke*non-deprecated* known-bad EC config. we've got at least a couple more steps before we refuse to start if there's any known-bad EC config at all21:21
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notmynametimburke: yes :-)21:21
notmynametimburke: could you add a sentence or two in the docs about it?21:22
timburke(like adding some super-deprecated flag that refuses to create new objects, then requiring that any known-bad policies start using *that*)21:22
notmynameI don't want to spend so much time on the details of this that we never land it21:22
timburkeyeah, will do21:22
notmynamebut in this case I don't think we can spend too much time tellng people about it21:23
acolestimburke: maybe also in swift.conf-sample if it makes sense21:23
notmynametimburke: thanks21:23
notmynameand I think we're ready to land it, with that small docs addition21:23
notmynamepersonally, I feel that as a group we've discussed and over discussed this one to death. we know it's happening. we've talked about it for weeks. we talked about it in person. we talked about it months ago when kota_ first found the original bug21:24
notmynamegiven that, I don't think we need an extra step of getting everyone to add a +1 or +2 to this patch in gerrit21:24
claygnotmyname: yup, great work!  over communicate like a boss.  Let's break some clusters!21:24
notmynamebut I could also be totally wrong. if the group thinks we need to do that, too, i'm totally ok with supporting that21:25
notmynamewhat do you think?21:25
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clayg:shipit: @acoles has swiftstack cover - good luck to the rest of ya'll suckers in the swift deployment and provisioning game!21:25
notmynamelol21:25
joeljwright:D21:26
mattoliverauI think its a great way to find out who else is using swift and EC out there (when they come and wonder whats wrong) :P21:26
notmynamekota_: acoles: rledisez: tdasilva: jrichli: everyone ok with landing this patch as soon as timburke updates the docs?21:26
rledisezclayg: he, swift works so fine, i just run a pip install -U on my cluster and go grab some cofee21:26
mattoliveraubut yes, ship it!21:26
jrichliy21:26
notmynamerledisez: :-)21:26
kota_sounds good21:27
rlediseznotmyname: ok for me21:27
* timburke notices that notmyname is still looking for everyone's sign-off anyway...21:27
mattoliveraulol21:27
acolestimburke: right ! :D21:27
tdasilvanotmyname: yep21:27
acolesI'm in21:27
notmynameoveroveroveroverovershare21:27
claygPTLin https://static.planetminecraft.com/files/resource_media/screenshot/1333/Like-A-Boss_6165401.jpg21:27
notmynamegreat. doit21:28
notmyname#topic priority reviews21:28
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notmyname#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews21:28
notmynameI updated this (finally!) this morning based on what's been going on this past week21:28
notmynamefirst of all, everyone's been doing a great job of getting some stuff landed. thanks!21:28
notmynamekept checking links and "yep, it's already merged!"21:29
notmynameI don't think there's a particular question on any of those patches or bugs that needs to be addressed in this meeting21:29
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notmynamejust "keep it up! everyone's doing great!"21:29
notmyname#topic open discussion21:29
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notmynamewhat else in on your mind?21:29
notmynametdasilva: mattoliverau: do you need help with your socket/centos thing?21:30
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mattoliverauwell that popped up while playing with the tpool patch.21:30
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tdasilvanotmyname: yeah, if anybody has any ideas...not sure how much experience others have with server_per_port + centos21:31
mattoliverauI'm glad tdasilva got the same thing. tho we got it using the same saio deployment (ansible-saio).. so if others have a different centos saio it would be good to confirm.21:31
tdasilvabut we can take it to #openstack-swift channel21:31
notmynametimburke: clayg: acoles: we like centos+servers_per_port. something we can help with?21:31
mattoliverauI plan to have play with it.. but being a stay at home dad, so been a little hard to find long times infront of the laptop21:32
rledisezjust wanted to share I (finally!) found one real socket leak. In copy middleware. bugreport and patch are on the way21:32
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mattoliveraurledisez: \o/21:32
claygrledisez: yeah nice work!21:32
notmynamerledisez: I don't want to say "good to hear", but thanks(?)21:32
notmyname:-)21:32
tdasilvacopy middleware, no way ;)21:32
mattoliveraurledisez: awesome, nice one21:33
rledisezalso, some news on K/V memory usage, alecuyer just did the tests and gave me numbers few hours ago21:33
notmynamethat's great to hear21:33
mattoliverausweet21:33
rledisezhe'll send a mail to -dev tomorrow, but here a summary21:33
claygrledisez: I'm pretty sure timburke has another socket leak bug with 411 responses... i was going to look at his WIP today but haven't yet21:33
notmynamehow'd they look?21:33
rledisezthe biggest the K/V, the more efficient it is21:33
rledisezfor a case of one device with 10 millions of objects21:33
notmyname"biggest" by number of keys? or total bytes?21:33
rledisezwith only one K/V, one object takes about 39 bytes21:34
rledisezwith one K/V per partition, if you have 100 partitions, one object consume 50 bytes21:34
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rledisezwith 1000 partitions, one object consume 72 bytes21:34
rledisezit was expected, it's because leveldb knows to optimize but sharing common prefix21:35
notmynamesounds like a normal swift scaling story: "gets better as it gets bigger"21:35
notmynamerledisez: I'm looking forward to reading more about it :-)21:35
rledisezyeah, the mail will contains more details (and maybe shiny graph :))21:36
notmynameooooohhh21:36
* mattoliverau loves shiny graphs21:36
notmynameany other topics to bring up in today's meeting?21:36
timburkei'd like some eyes on some swiftclient patches. it's been a while since we had a release (3.3.0 was in January) so it'd be good to work toward that21:36
timburkep 455470, p 455488, p 455489, p 44977121:36
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/455470/ - python-swiftclient - Stop sending X-Static-Large-Object headers21:37
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/455488/ - python-swiftclient - Tolerate RFC-compliant ETags21:37
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/455489/ - python-swiftclient - Skip checksum validation on partial downloads21:37
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/449771/ - python-swiftclient - Buffer reads from disk21:37
rledisezclayg, timburke: in my case the leak is on 413 responses21:37
notmynamedoesn't timur have one he resurrected to stream stdin to the swift cli?21:37
claygdid I say 411?  maybe I meant 413...21:37
claygwhich one is "GTFO with all those big bytes!"21:37
rledisezmaybe the same then, i'll write bugreport tomorrow21:38
joeljwrighttimburke: sorry I've been rubbish at reviewing recently, I'll do my best to get some dome before the next meeting!21:38
rledisezclayg: it's 413, it's the same bug21:38
rledisezi don't think i found a bugreport for this one, i'll re-check before posting a new one21:38
claygnotmyname: oh yeah stdin - that's a good one!21:38
timburkeseems worse when it's in copy, though -- who knows how long we'll keep that socket open?21:38
zaitcevtimburke: That buffered reads thing calls to me. I cannot believe there's no better way to do it.21:39
rlediseztimburke: as long as the process live, i have some experience with that :D21:39
notmynametimburke: I'll add swiftclient patches to the priority reviews page. thanks for bringing that up21:39
notmynameyou're right. we should do a release there soon (when these land)21:39
notmynamespeaking of releases, for swift itself, I'll start seriously looking at one when the EC policy blocker one lands21:40
timburkehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/259410/ -- hasn't be updated yet21:40
patchbotpatch 259410 - python-swiftclient - Support uploading to an object in swift from stdin21:40
notmynameok21:40
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notmynamelast call. anything else from anyone?21:40
joeljwrightI've had some nice comments from cschwede on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36537121:41
patchbotpatch 365371 - swift - Add Preamble and Postamble to SLO and SegmentedIte...21:41
joeljwrightwould be nice to get more21:41
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mattoliveraunice comments.. well that's me out :P21:41
joeljwrightthere's plenty of discussion in the comments about whether the API is what we want21:42
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clayglol @ mattoliverau21:42
joeljwrightmattoliverau: hostile sarcastic comments are also an option ;)21:42
notmynamejoeljwright: what's your summary of the current state of that api discussion?21:42
mattoliverau\o/21:42
clayglol @ joeljwright21:42
joeljwrightthe current API adds optional pre- or post-ambles to object segments21:42
joeljwrightclayg has suggested that maybe we just allow data as segments21:43
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joeljwrighti.e. not tied to real objects in the store21:43
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joeljwrightwould be nice to get opinions (especially if someone can see a use case where pre/post amble tied to a segment is too restrictive etc.)21:44
notmynamejoeljwright: ok, thanks for the update21:44
notmynameok, let's end 15 minutes early :-)21:45
notmynamealthough I say it every time, I sincerely mean it: thanks for your work on swift. you've got a lot to be proud of21:46
notmynamethank you for coming today21:46
notmyname#endmeeting21:46
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jungleboyjThanks!21:47
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