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asselin_#startmeeting third-party14:59
openstackMeeting started Mon May  1 14:59:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is asselin_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'third_party'15:00
asselin_hi, anyone around for third-party meeting today?15:00
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pabelangerI am15:01
pabelangermostly wanted to give a heads up about changes coming today15:02
asselin_hi pabelanger15:02
pabelangerwe've stopped depending on puppet now for diskimages in nodepool15:02
asselin_cool!15:02
pabelangerthis means, we likely need to send out an email to 3rdparty CI system and update there configuration15:02
pabelangerspecifically, we've created a jenkin-slave element, if you still depend on jenkins for CI15:03
pabelangerso, would love some help passing that information along or have somebody try the latest project-config to ensure things still work15:03
asselin_is that in project-config?15:03
pabelangerIt is15:03
asselin_I suppose it hasn't been documented yet15:04
pabelangerHowever, openstack-infra will be no longer depending on it when zuulv3 lands, so maybe it should be some otherplace?15:04
pabelangerasselin_: no, not much.15:04
asselin_current documentation asks folsk to use project-config-example, which asks folks to use nodepool elements from project-config15:05
pabelangerokay, we'll need to update project-config-example for sure15:05
pabelangerelements in project-config should still be okay15:06
pabelangeruntil the day comes where openstack-infra no longer needs jenkins-slave15:06
asselin_I imagine most 3rd party ci folks will also move from jenkins (eventually)15:07
asselin_jenkins complicates the setup quite a bit imo15:07
pabelangerYa, I've already started a POC for zuulv3 third party CI using ansible. However, we are still a few months off for that15:08
pabelangereither way, that is all I wanted to mention. If for some reason, you started to see nodepool-builder failure to build DIBs, it is likely because we removed puppet15:08
asselin_is there a new nodepool tag?15:10
pabelangerno, why?15:10
asselin_maybe I misunderstood the issue you mention. Why would nodepool-builder fail?15:11
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asselin_were there related changes to nodepool-builder?15:11
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pabelangerif you are referencing the puppet element in nodepool.yaml, and update project-config, it would fail to build15:12
pabelangeralso, cache-devstack I think will download latest project-config, and try to run prepare-node, which will also fail15:13
pabelangerbefore it has been deleted in latest project-config15:13
pabelangerbecause*15:13
asselin_ok, ok...so it will only fail if you resync your 3rd party ci's project-config with -infra's15:13
pabelangerya, I think it is possible15:13
pabelangerI haven't actually tested it yet.15:13
asselin_so existing setups should continue to work fine and build new images15:13
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pabelangerIt would be great is a 3rdparty CI operator did a build today, and let me know the results15:13
pabelangerasselin_: we are hoping15:14
asselin_ok15:15
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asselin_anything else pabelanger ?15:16
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pabelangerthat is all I had15:16
asselin_ok thanks for sharing. Anyone else around have something to discuss?15:17
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asselin_I need to leave early. Anything else, ask over in #openstack-third-party-ci15:21
asselin_#endmeeting15:21
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emaganaUC Meeting Folks!19:01
rlppleGood Day19:02
emagana#startmeeting uc19:02
openstackMeeting started Mon May  1 19:02:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is emagana. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'uc'19:02
emaganawho is around?19:02
ShillaSaebihello hello19:03
jproulxHi All19:03
rlpplehello19:03
emaganaHello All!19:04
emaganaI forgot how to add you guys as co-chairs of the meeting19:04
emaganaI will find it later.. anyway. Let's start with the agenda19:05
emagana#topic Final Preparations for Boston Forum19:05
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emaganaAre you all ready for Boston?19:05
jproulxno... :)19:06
emaganayou better be! jproulx19:06
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ShillaSaebiim not ready either!19:06
ShillaSaebistill need to book my travel19:06
ShillaSaebihave a hotel though19:06
emaganathat is the hard part.. there are so many options for Boston19:07
jproulxmostly conflict resolution issues, I also have a place ot stay :)19:07
emaganalet's talk about the Board/Tc/UC meeting on Sunday19:07
ShillaSaebialright19:07
jproulxI'll be there19:08
emaganaI am updating the slides that we use last time.19:08
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emaganaIn my mind we should have two or three main goals:19:09
emagana1. Get familiar with the new board and TC members19:09
emagana2. Have a more formal and dynamic collaboration with TC19:10
jproulxhas board put out agenda yet?19:10
emagana3. Present our path to formalize the work from UC Working Groups19:10
emaganajproulx: I think so.. let me find the link19:10
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jproulx(sorry didn't mean to step on your list)19:10
emagana#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/7May2017BoardMeeting19:11
emaganajproulx: do not worry at all19:11
emaganawhat aould like like to achive from that meeting?19:11
emaganaarrghhh "what would you like to achieve from that meeting?"19:12
ShillaSaebii plan on being there from 2-519:12
jproulxI think your 2nd point is the big one (more collaboration across UC/TC)19:13
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jproulxthe afternoon follow on from previous Boston joint meeting looks well suited to that19:14
ShillaSaebiditto and i think another big one is going to be present our plans to formalize the work from WGs19:14
emaganaToday we have a meeting organize by Melvin with a couple of members from TC and it seems that we are in a good path to reach that19:14
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emaganaI was hoping to see Melvin in the meeting to read his feedback from the meeting.19:16
emaganaYou were there as well jproulx right?19:16
jproulxyes I was19:16
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jproulxThere was a group brainstorming session to identify arget topics19:17
jproulxs/arget/target/;19:17
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emaganaThere is a etherpad is your are interested:19:17
emagana#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS-forum-unanswered-requirements19:17
jproulxthat was one of the topics.19:18
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jproulxMelvin is leading that up, but there are others19:18
jproulxbasicly the list is the 15:00-16:20 topics in the Board agenda19:18
emaganaGreat!19:19
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emaganaIs there anything that you want to discuss about the Boston Summit?19:20
emaganaAny logistics that we need to take care of?19:20
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jproulxwhat is ht estate of the Thursday UC session?19:20
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jproulxthere was some discussion of conflict and possible movement, was there a decision on that?19:21
emaganais scheduled but we probably need to put a more formal agenda!19:21
emaganaohh that part, I have no idea, I was on vacations last week and I am still catching up19:21
jproulxme too!19:22
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jproulxmostly I've read subject lines so far...19:22
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ShillaSaebiok i think were planning on moving the thurs one19:24
ShillaSaebito 5:00PM - 5:40PM19:24
ShillaSaebiso far Shamail and Melvin have responded with a + 119:24
jproulx+1 from me too19:24
ShillaSaebiIm still trying to figure out my return from Boston, it's not booked yet...I may not be around Thurs evening19:24
emaganawow..19:25
emaganawe need you there!19:25
ShillaSaebimy husbands graduating dental school on friday morning and will walk on Saturday19:25
ShillaSaebitrying to see if i can skip the friday portion of the event19:25
emaganaShillaSaebi: Please, provide your availability ASAP in the email thread to find a time/date that fits everybody!19:25
jproulxyeah we should pick an earlier time then19:26
ShillaSaebii can let everyone know by tonight19:26
ShillaSaebii need to finalize my travel dates anyway, its getting late19:26
emaganaThanks!19:26
emagana#action ShillaSaebi to provide availability and finalize the time for the UC meeting19:27
ShillaSaebigreat19:27
jproulxit's offical now19:27
emagananext topic is about: OpenStack Shared Interest Groups19:27
emagana#topic OpenStack Shared Interest Groups19:27
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emaganaUnfortunately, Melvin is not around and he has been leading it.19:27
emaganaMaybe we should just have that discussion in Boston.19:28
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jproulxas I understand it the key element is joint UC/TC Working Groups (maybe with a new name) as a way to break down barriers and widen communication channels19:28
jproulx#link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gTeN5ZB2AnPPXejXOm08sQ75Fc-cMs-x-dOGwfsyM8w19:29
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emaganaI have not read it yet. I need to get familiar with it.19:29
jproulxyeah I read an early version and had a couple of discussions so take my description lightly19:30
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emaganaMy initial feedback is that we need to have more structure around WGs before making this kind of changes19:31
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emaganamaybe something that we can start planing to be enforced in six months19:31
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emagana#action UC members to get familiar with the proposal and provide feedback if they have not yet.19:32
jproulxI think it's a good discussion to have, *if* it makes sense to move to a different subgrouping structure I'd think it's better to make one move than two, but more reading on my part is def. required before i have a firm opion19:34
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emaganagive me a minute..19:35
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emaganaI need to step out for an urgent matter (work related)19:37
jproulxOK, good luck with that19:38
ShillaSaebiyeah good luck emagana19:39
jproulxI think we're SIG'ed out for now with discussion to continue Sunday, unless anyone else has anything to add.19:40
ShillaSaebinothing from my end19:41
jproulxnext #topic Open Items19:41
jproulx#topic Open Items19:42
jproulxnope I'm not a chair so no #topic for me :)19:42
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jproulxbut does anyone have anything?19:42
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jproulx2min remaining, last chance...19:58
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mrhillsmano/19:59
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mrhillsmanugh, i got my times mixed up :(20:00
jproulxmrhillsman: yer a little late :D20:00
mrhillsmanlol20:00
mrhillsmanyes, yes i am20:00
jproulxhave any parting wisdom fo rus20:00
jproulxor for us (your choice)20:00
mrhillsmanhehe nope20:01
mrhillsmanwill read the archive and send email20:01
mrhillsmantoo many dang meetings got me confused20:01
jproulx#truth20:01
jproulx#endmeeting20:01
jproulxnope...hmmm20:01
jproulxeventually a non-chair can end a meeting I just forget how long we have to wait :)20:02
mrhillsmanedgar started it20:02
mrhillsman#chair20:02
mrhillsman#chair mrhillsman20:02
mrhillsman:(20:02
clarkb60 minutes is the timeout20:02
clarkbso anyone should be able to endmeeting now20:03
jproulx#endmeeting20:03
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openstackMeeting ended Mon May  1 20:03:20 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)20:03
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-05-01-19.02.html20:03
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-05-01-19.02.txt20:03
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-05-01-19.02.log.html20:03
mrhillsmanthere we go :)20:03
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mrhillsmanhad to wait until :0220:03
jproulxyup, got it :)20:03
jproulxsee y'all sunday20:04
mrhillsman+120:04
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mrhillsman@jproulx i'll be there friday, maybe can get that tour20:05
mrhillsmanlate friday or saturday20:05
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jproulx@mrhillsman was thinking maybe combining with our tenatitive monday plans...but it will happen I'll put some email togather20:08
mrhillsmancool20:09
mrhillsmanthat sounds like a plan20:09
mrhillsmanwe have a whole week this time :)20:09
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jproulxa busy week, so will be good to nail down a time sooner than later!20:10
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mrhillsman#agreed20:10
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kevinbenton#startmeeting networking21:00
openstackMeeting started Mon May  1 21:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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kevinbentonhello everyone!21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'21:00
haleybhi21:00
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armaxhi21:00
hichiharahi21:00
mlavalleo/21:00
SukhdevHello21:01
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kevinbenton#topic Announcements21:01
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kevinbentonthe summit is next week21:01
mlavalleyaay!21:02
kevinbentonthere are two sessions that were approved that we need some volunteer moderators for21:02
kevinbenton(related to neutron)21:02
kevinbentonhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/116058.html21:02
armaxkevinbenton: do you have the list of attendees handy?21:02
kevinbentonNeutron Pain Points https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18801/neutron-pain-points21:02
kevinbentonMaking Neutron easy for people who want basic networking - https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18800/making-neutron-easy-for-people-who-want-basic-networking21:03
kevinbentonarmax: yep21:03
kevinbenton#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-boston-summit-attendees21:03
armaxdanke21:03
kevinbentonso I'm planning on attending all of these sessions21:03
kevinbentonbut i'm already moderating a couple of others21:04
kevinbentonso I was hoping we could get some other volunteers to lead these21:04
armaxSukhdev: fancy moderating a session?21:04
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SukhdevWhat is that?21:05
kevinbentonif you can moderate one of these, please reach out to me or reply directly on the mailing list21:05
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* mlavalle needs to check calendar. will follow up with kevinbenton21:06
kevinbentonthanks21:06
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kevinbentonDoes anyone have any other announcements?21:06
SukhdevI am dialed in from iPhone....limited access.. Will check the links later21:06
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kevinbenton(also, if you are attending the summit, don't forget to add your name to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-boston-summit-attendees )21:07
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mlavalleJust to keep an eye on Pike-221:07
mlavalleIt will be here before we know21:07
kevinbentonack21:07
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kevinbenton#topic Blueprints21:07
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kevinbentoncontinuing that21:07
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kevinbentondoes anyone have anything concerning a blueprint in development that we need to talk about?21:08
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kevinbentonok21:09
kevinbentonlet's talk about bugs21:09
kevinbenton#topic Bugs21:09
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kevinbentonmlavalle, you were deputy right?21:09
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mlavallekevinbenton: yes sir21:09
mlavalleit was a rather quiet week21:09
mlavallewe started last week with this critical bug:21:10
armaxa relase of os-client-config broke the neutronclient pipeline21:10
armaxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/461463/21:10
mlavallehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168309021:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1655567 in neutron "duplicate for #1683090 DHCPv6 failures with "address already allocated in subnet" error" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)21:10
armaxdid not file a bug report for it thoug21:10
armaxh21:10
kevinbentonarmax: should we blacklist that version on the stable branches?21:10
mlavallewe found that it has several duplicates (at least 2)21:11
mlavalleso we are tracking it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/165556721:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1655567 in neutron "DHCPv6 failures with "address already allocated in subnet" error" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel)21:11
armaxkevinbenton: stable branches should have that pinned to 1.26.021:11
armaxI’ll double check21:11
kevinbentonarmax: ack21:11
mlavalleand I also intend to mark this one as duplicate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/166649321:11
openstackLaunchpad bug 1666493 in neutron "auto address allocation conflicting with non-subnet addresses" [High,New]21:11
kevinbentonmlavalle: i see you're still analyzing it21:11
mlavalleyeah21:12
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mlavalleI'll keep kitting it over the next few days21:12
mlavallehitting^^^^21:12
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mlavalleThat's all I wanted to highlight today21:12
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kevinbentonmlavalle: ok, let me know if you get stuck and need an extra set of eyes21:12
kevinbentonthanks21:13
mlavallewill do21:13
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kevinbentonhaleyb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/168523721:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1685237 in neutron "port security does not block router advertisements for instances" [Undecided,New]21:13
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kevinbentonso is this just a side effect of not using security groups?21:13
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kevinbentondo we have a bug deputy for this week?21:14
kevinbentonarmax: may i deputize you?21:15
haleybkevinbenton: i didn't have a chance to look at the response, but yes, without SG i believe those anti-spoofing rules do'nt exist21:15
armaxkevinbenton: no21:15
armaxI am not quite out of the woods yet21:15
kevinbenton:)21:15
armaxsoon21:15
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janzianI can be bug deputy this week if no one else wants to21:16
kevinbentonhaleyb: ack21:16
kevinbentonjanzian: thanks!21:16
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kevinbentonhaleyb: yeah, if you can reply as "won't fix" if that is indeed the problem21:16
kevinbentonthat would be good21:16
haleybkevinbenton: oh, he's using OVS SG21:16
kevinbentonhaleyb: that was a thing in mitaka? :)21:17
haleybi didn't think so21:17
haleybi'll ask kuba, bank holiday today over there21:17
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kevinbentonhaleyb: oh, those are just regular anti arp spoofing rules21:17
kevinbentonhaleyb: i don't think that's ovs firewall21:17
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kevinbentonjanzian: are you familiar with the process?21:18
haleybso SG disabled, port security enabled, that will have no spoof rules21:18
janziankevinbenton: I've done it once before, yeah21:19
kevinbentonjanzian: ack21:19
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kevinbentonhaleyb: ok, i don't think we should probably spend much effort trying to support SG disabled21:19
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kevinbenton#topic neutron-lib21:20
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kevinbentonboden is out at the moment, but he emailed me an update21:20
kevinbentonneutron-lib 1.6.0 is now out21:21
kevinbentonso we can start consuming the API definitions from that21:21
kevinbentonwe've switched to the callbacks code in neutron-lib21:21
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kevinbentonand left an import shim in the old neutron.callbacks location21:22
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kevinbentonwe can chat about removing that in a couple of weeks after the summit to give people time to change their imports21:22
kevinbentonalso the port security extension has moved21:23
kevinbenton#info port security extension moved to neutron-lib http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/116148.html21:23
kevinbentonso if you have driver that uses that start importing from neutron-lib21:24
kevinbentonanyone have any neutron-lib related concerns?21:24
kevinbentonor things to discuss21:24
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kevinbenton#topic Docs21:25
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kevinbentonwe lost our chief of docs21:26
kevinbentonthis is going to be discussed at the summit I think21:26
kevinbenton#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/116093.html21:26
kevinbentonso after the summit we will need a new plan to keep on top of documentation21:26
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kevinbenton#topic Transition to OSC21:27
mlavallekevinbenton: we can meet wit asettle during summit she will be there21:27
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kevinbenton#undo21:27
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #topic Transition to OSC21:27
kevinbentonmlavalle: ack21:27
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kevinbenton#topic Transition to OSC21:28
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kevinbentonamotoki isn't around21:28
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kevinbentondoes anyone have any updates on this?21:28
kevinbentoneverything sounded good in last meeting21:29
kevinbentonso i'll assume it's still the same for now then :)21:29
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kevinbenton#topic Open Discussion21:29
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kevinbentonanyone have anything else?21:29
mlavalleI want to do a quick update on the OpenStack Upstream Institute21:29
Sukhdev_kevinbenton : Do we have any design session during summit?21:30
mlavalleThis is the training for new members of the community that will take place thios coming weekend in Boston21:30
kevinbentonSukhdev_: no design sessions, we have forum sessions instead, which are kinda similar21:30
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mlavalleright before the Summit21:30
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mlavalleIt is Saturday afternoon and Sunday all day long21:30
mlavalleThere are about 70 attendess confirmed21:31
mlavalleOut of which 6 have indicated strong interest in Neutron21:31
Sukhdev_kevinbenton : I looked at the two links you posted earlier - they both have a moderator - why are you looking for volunteers?21:31
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kevinbentonSukhdev_: that is not someone with neutron expertise, they are just default moderator21:31
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mlavalleSince I will get there on Sunday at noon, trevormc will be helping in case we have Neutron specific sessions before I get there21:32
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mlavalleAnd this will be followed by an on-boarding session on Wednesday:21:32
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kevinbentonmlavalle: ack, what will be covered during the weekend sessions?21:32
mlavalle#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/18713/neutron-project-onboarding21:32
kevinbentonSukhdev_: (see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/116058.html )21:32
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mlavalleThe weekend session is an overview of the OpenStack project in general21:32
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mlavallewith a brief and light deep dive per project. That is where trevormc and I come along21:33
kevinbentoncool21:33
mlavallethe on-boarding session a depper deep dive in Neutron21:33
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mlavalleis a deeper deep dive^^^^21:33
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mlavalleI have put together slides and exercises for that session21:34
kevinbentonmlavalle: what time is the onboarding session on wednesday?21:34
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mlavalle12:30 to 1:50 pm21:34
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mlavalleit is in the link I posted above21:34
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mlavalleif members of the Neutron time have time, show up and I will do the introcustions21:35
mlavallethat's my update21:35
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kevinbentonmlavalle: thanks21:35
mlavallethanks to trevormc for stepping up to the plate21:35
mlavalle:-)21:35
haleybintrocustions, that sounds like a dental procedure :(21:35
kevinbentonlol21:36
mlavalleintroductions21:36
mlavalleLOL21:36
kevinbentonok, if that's all I'll give everyone 23 mins back!21:36
mlavalle\o/21:36
kevinbenton#endmeeting21:37
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