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huzhj#startmeeting daisycloud07:59
openstackMeeting started Fri Apr  7 07:59:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is huzhj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.07:59
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: daisycloud)"07:59
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'daisycloud'07:59
huzhj#topic Roll Call07:59
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huzhj#info Zhijiang08:00
alexyang#info alexyang08:00
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huzhjLet's wait other to come08:02
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zhouya#info zhouya08:04
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sunjing#sunjing08:04
huzhjOK let's get started08:05
huzhj#topic OPNFV: VM/BM Deployment & Functest Integration08:05
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huzhjsunjing please use #info sunjing  to ack the roll call, thanks08:06
luyao1#info luyao08:06
sunjingSorry,i will use that next time.08:07
sunjing#info sunjing08:08
huzhjany update for this topic?08:08
zhouyaI am testing the mutinode deploy on virtual env08:09
zhouyaAnd just need some time to see the result08:09
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huzhjGreat, so the config file for the multinode vm is done?08:09
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zhouyaI just reference the bm deployment deploy.yml08:10
zhouyaAnd also launch 5 nodes.08:10
zhouya3 controller nodes and 2 computer nodes08:11
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zhouyamaybe we can use much more nodes to deploy with if the storage of virtual env is enouth.08:12
huzhj#info zhouya is testing the mutinode deploy on virtual env, uses bm deployment deploy.yml  as reference08:12
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huzhjwhy we need more?08:13
zhouyajust for test.08:13
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huzhjOK, for the further multicast test?08:13
zhouyaAnd maybe this can used on multicast test.08:13
zhouyayes08:14
huzhjGood08:14
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huzhjfor CI, 5 is enough , also need to confirm with serna08:14
huzhjserena08:14
zhouyaok08:15
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huzhjanything else for this topic?08:16
zhouyaI will contact  serena and discuss how many nodes we need to test in virtual deploy.08:16
zhouyanothing from my side.08:16
huzhj#info zhouya will contact  serena and discuss how many nodes we need to test in virtual deploy08:16
huzhjalexyang, anything else from your side?08:17
alexyangnothing from my side now08:18
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huzhjalexyang, the core reviewer proposing sequence seems stuck. I can not contact with some of the core member, seems other projects also have the same problem, such as https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/29999/, I will try to remove some inactive Committers if nothing else we can do08:18
huzhjlet's move on08:19
huzhj#topic Cinder/Ceph support08:19
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huzhjI saw we have a good progress on this topic, zhouya08:20
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zhouyathe test result seems great.08:20
zhouyaAnd we can use the LVM or CEPH backend to boot vm from volume.08:21
huzhjgood, what about the live migration?08:22
zhouyathe live migration is ok with ceph backend just as yesterday do.08:22
zhouyabut the live migration seems not very well when we do not use ceph backend.08:23
huzhjI know kongwei has dived more deeper in live migration08:23
zhouyaAnd I will still try on test the live migration without ceph backend and discuss this with kong.08:24
kongwei:)08:24
huzhjGreat08:24
huzhj#info we can use the LVM or CEPH backend to boot vm from volume,  live migration is ok with ceph backend.08:24
kongweiWe can discuss it later @zhouya08:24
zhouyathank you for your help.08:25
huzhj#info  ceph support can now fulfill the requirement of functest. but need further confirm with Serena08:25
zhouyaexactly, I will spare some time to learn from Serena of how to integrate this to functest with Serena.08:27
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huzhj#action zhouya will confirm with Serena to see if the current support of Cinder/Ceph can fulfill the requirement of functest08:28
huzhjGreat work!08:28
huzhjanything else for this topic?08:28
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zhouyano08:28
huzhj#topic Daisy as Kolla Image Version Manager08:28
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huzhjHi, luyao108:30
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luyao2hi08:31
huzhjHi luyao2, do we support fallback to a old version?08:31
huzhjif the new version is failed08:32
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luyao2inner daisy maybe support it08:32
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luyao2for daisycloud,we support version manage to choose the version08:34
luyao2if one version failed,we can choose another08:34
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huzhjYes, but what is the differences between choose a old version  and fallback ?08:34
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luyao2sorry,I don‘t know,and need study for it08:35
huzhjGood, let's find out08:35
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huzhjFirst need to know if Kolla support fallback08:36
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luyao2YES08:37
luyao2I will08:37
luyao2ask for meizhifang and inner daisy for it08:37
luyao2kolla maybe just suppout upgrade?08:38
zhouyaalso maybe we could make attempts to uninstall openstack without uninstall the os or delete all host and deploy from the beginning.08:38
huzhjIf fallback need to have the old and new version exist in the registry simultaneously, then we will do more work, since currently we have only one version in the registry server08:39
luyao2yes08:40
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huzhj#info If fallback need to have the old and new version exist in the registry simultaneously, then we will do more work, since currently we have only one version in the registry server08:41
huzhjOK,08:41
huzhjanything else for this topic?08:41
luyao2no,I will do understand fallback offline08:42
zhouyano08:42
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huzhjfallback or rollback, correct me if I use a wrong word...08:42
huzhj#topic Multicast Image Distribution08:43
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huzhj#info coding is done. usable, but have not do  integration into Daisy08:44
huzhj#link https://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/33093/08:44
luyao2http://10.42.5.115/check_doc/97/163697/5/check/check-daisy-doc-publish/a8aac71/daisy/FeatureSpecification/VersionBack/versionback.md.html we can see it for help08:44
huzhjluyao2, that is dead link for the Open Community08:44
luyao2sorry08:45
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zhouyahttps://gerrit.opnfv.org/gerrit/#/c/33093/  so these code will wrap into a rpm package?08:47
huzhjYes, just08:47
huzhjjust run ./autoconf && ./configure && make rpm08:47
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huzhjthen rpm will appear in x86_64 sub dir08:47
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zhouyaand we just install this after daisy install?08:48
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huzhjYes, Install on daisy server as well as all target hosts08:49
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huzhjOK, that is all for this topic08:50
huzhj#topic AoB08:50
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huzhjOK, let's call it a meeting08:58
huzhjThanks all!08:58
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huzhj#endmeeting08:58
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openstackMeeting ended Fri Apr  7 08:58:41 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)08:58
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2017/daisycloud.2017-04-07-07.59.html08:58
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2017/daisycloud.2017-04-07-07.59.txt08:58
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2017/daisycloud.2017-04-07-07.59.log.html08:58
huzhjHave a good weekend08:58
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liuyulonghi there14:57
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liuyulongCan we get this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364803/ in?  :)14:58
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* fungi peers around15:00
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ttx#startmeeting releaseteam15:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Apr  7 15:01:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'15:01
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ttxPing list: dims, tonyb, stevemar15:01
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ttx#topic Pike-1 actions15:02
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ttxThe only remaining Pike-1-targeted incomplete item would be https://review.openstack.org/44817315:02
ttxwaiting for dims to review it15:02
ttxAnything else we should be completing before Pike-1 next week ?15:03
dhellmannI think that's it in terms of our todo list15:03
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ttx#action dims to review https://review.openstack.org/448173 so we can close our P1 list15:04
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ttx#topic Bottleneck in stable reviews15:04
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dhellmannwas there a countdown email this week? I'm behind15:04
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fungithere was, saw it this morning15:05
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dhellmannok, cool, I just haven't read it yet then15:05
ttxIt feels like the bottleneck in getting stable-policy--compliant releases is not getting a lot better15:05
ttxwas wondering if we should not do the assessment by ourselves if after a given period of time the stable team didn't review it15:05
dhellmannI agree :-/15:05
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ttxeven if that means doing a cursory look15:05
ttxlong-term we need to grow replacements there15:06
dhellmannyeah, I tend to look at the commit descriptions anyway15:06
ttxeven if that kind of contribution is not in fashion15:06
fungithe end result is release management backfilling stable branch maintenance rather than the other way around like we'd hoped15:06
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dhellmannI've noticed some +1 votes from folks I don't recognize15:06
dhellmannfungi : yeah15:06
ttxI've been sitting on the idea of a "TC says it would be great if you contributed there" list15:07
dhellmannalthough now I can't find an example15:07
ttxwhich Anni @ Huawei said would do a lot to drive APAC contributors to valuable strategic contributions15:08
dhellmannmaybe we can replace all of stackalytics with a counter for number of stable reviews15:08
fungiheh15:08
dhellmannttx: is that something we'd add to governance.o.o/tc?15:08
dhellmannor somewhere else?15:08
fungithe hit list/bounty hunt idea15:08
dhellmannright15:09
fungi"1. grow stable-maint-core reviewers by 3" or something like that15:09
ttxdhellmann: TC-level to give it some "official" weight, which carries a lot of importance in those culture15:09
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dhellmannyeah, having the tc maintain the list is a good idea. I'm wondering how to publish it.15:10
lbragstadis this for stable maintenance across projects, or project specific stable maintenance?15:10
dhellmannlbragstad : stable releases specifically15:10
fungilbragstad: sore spot right now is timely review of stable point release requests15:10
dhellmannlbragstad : we need people to help ensure that new stable releases follow policy15:10
lbragstaddhellmann fungi aha15:11
lbragstadthanks15:11
fungiinterested? ;)15:11
lbragstadi actually have a hard time getting folks to review stable patches in keystone ;)15:12
* fungi works on his hard sell tactics15:12
ttxanyway, how about we self-review them in they last more than a week  ?15:12
lbragstadluckily dolphm and stevemar do a pretty good job of staying available15:12
dhellmannttx: ++15:12
ttxwhile we wait for a more permanent fix15:12
dhellmannttx: 2 +2s for those?15:12
ttxotherwise it's punishing whoever follows policy15:12
ttxdhellmann: sure15:12
dimso/ (sorry was writing up candidacy for something called the TC :)15:13
dhellmanncool. I've already +2 several15:13
ttxdims: who does those things on a Friday15:13
dhellmanndims : you have until sunday for that!15:13
ttx#agreed release management team will review stable releases directly if the stable team doesn't pick them up after a week. 2 +2s needed for approval15:13
dims2 soccer games, 1 ice cream social - full deck for weekend :)15:14
ttx#info Whenever the TC comes up with a "Strategic contributions wanted" list, make sure to include stable team in it15:14
dims++ ttx15:14
ttxmy weekend: friends stopping by for lunch, table tennis game, wine fair and someone's birthday party15:15
dimsnice!15:15
* dhellmann will be going to the farmer's market, then maybe shoe shopping. #excitement15:15
ttx#topic Open discussion15:16
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ttxOk, anything else ?15:16
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lbragstadwould i be able to get added to the ping list for this meeting?15:16
lbragstador is that something i can go and do?15:16
dhellmannI'm interested in input on this reno review: https://review.openstack.org/44806615:16
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dhellmannI'm not opposed, just not sure it's a good idea.15:16
dhellmannlbragstad : ttx should probably add you to his notes15:17
lbragstaddhellmann ttx cool - thank you15:17
ttxlbragstad: want to be on the ping list ?15:17
ttxok done15:17
lbragstadttx yes please15:17
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ttxdhellmann: it's actually maintained directly on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-relmgt-tracking :)15:18
dhellmannoh, right15:18
dimsdhellmann : does it cover how to deal with release notes for older releases?15:18
lbragstaddims that's a good question15:19
dhellmanndims : I think the idea is just that some projects wanting to adopt reno don't want the subdirectory15:19
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dimsright dhellmann15:19
dhellmannso I don't think we have a migration issue15:19
dimsdhellmann : i mean once you switch to this new style repos. there should be identical branches in that new repo15:20
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dhellmannI think in this case there is no "switching" -- the project that wants to use reno like this doesn't already have reno deployed?15:22
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dhellmannmaybe I'm not understanding what you mean, though15:22
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dimssay a project starts doing that then say down the pike we have a stable/teapot branch in the project repo and reno repo, will that scenario work with the code in that review15:23
dimswill ask on the review after i peek dhellmann15:24
ttxok, anything else ?15:24
dhellmannyeah, this is just about moving the contents of releasenotes/notes into releasenotes/ so it doesn't affect branches15:24
dhellmannthat's it from me15:25
dimsgotcha thanks15:25
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ttxalright then15:28
ttx#endmeeting15:28
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"15:28
openstackMeeting ended Fri Apr  7 15:28:32 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:28
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-04-07-15.01.html15:28
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-04-07-15.01.txt15:28
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-04-07-15.01.log.html15:28
ttxThanks guys and have a great weekend!15:28
fungithanks to you!15:28
fungienjoy your weekend now in progress15:29
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dimsfungi : thanks, you too15:30
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