Friday, 2017-03-17

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huzhj#startmeeting daisycloud08:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Mar 17 08:00:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is huzhj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'daisycloud'08:00
huzhj#topic Roll Call08:00
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huzhj#info Zhijiang08:00
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zhuzeyu#zhuzeyu08:01
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huzhj@zhuzeyu, please use info command to ack the roll call08:02
luyao1info luyao08:02
zhuzeyuinfo zhuzeyu08:03
huzhjlike this #info Zhijiang08:03
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luyao1#info luyao08:03
zhuzeyu#info zhuzeyu08:03
zhouya#info zhouya08:04
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huzhj#topic Cinder/Ceph support08:04
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huzhjsince Kolla already supported Cinder/Ceph , all Daisy need to do is store user config into DB and use this info to generate global.yml. also ,daisy need to do some work after OS installation and before Kolla deploy08:06
huzhjquestion is , do we need to create new DB table to store those info or use the existing table08:06
huzhjand what fields we need to use in that DB table08:07
zhouyawe need to add a new segement in service_disk table to store the name of sda08:07
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huzhjplease use info command when ever you think what you said is need to be recorded into meeting minutes.please08:08
huzhj#info zhouya said we need to add a new segement in service_disk table to store the name of sda08:09
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huzhjservice_disk table was used to describe partitions used for any service that need a storage. such as nova, glance08:11
huzhjdo you think it is suitable for cinder/ceph to use it?08:12
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zhouyaIn my opinion, I think it is properly to use this to store cepj08:12
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zhouyaceph08:13
huzhjGood. noticed that, although service_disk table can be used by opensource daisy to describe partitions used for services, the os intallation layer script does not use it , when install  a non-tfg OS08:14
zhouyaabsolutely08:15
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huzhjwhen it comes to centos installation, currently we only support doing partitioning  on the first hard drive. So the second /third disk can be free to be used as Ceph disk08:17
zhouyaalso we need to execute 'parted /dev/sdb -s -- mklabel gpt mkpart KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP 1 -1' to label the tag of disk for kolla ceph backend08:17
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huzhjYes08:18
huzhjwhat about the LVM backend?08:18
zhouyaLVM backend is much more complected08:18
huzhjwhy? does it need more table filed to describe?08:19
zhouyawe need to execute much more commend then CEPH backend08:19
huzhjthat is not really a big deal08:19
huzhjthe deal is we'd better to use a single db design to support both LVM and Ceph backend. can we achieve that?08:20
zhouyano,like cetph backend ,we just have to add new segement to store sda name08:20
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zhouyaYes,we can achieve that08:21
huzhjGood.08:21
huzhj#info like cetph backend, we just have to add new segement to store disk name for LVM08:21
zhouyaluckly,the code of daisycloud-core has made all controller nodes as the storage node.08:22
huzhjcan we use the existing field (segment)  "LUN" ?08:22
zhouyaMaybe not.08:22
huzhjOK08:23
zhouyabecause the LUN segment is inter08:23
huzhjgot it08:23
zhouyainteger08:23
zhouyawe need to add an extra segment.08:23
huzhjOK, any other updates/risks about this topic?08:23
huzhjlets move on08:24
huzhj#topic Daisy as Kolla image version manager08:24
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huzhjI think luyao1 is working on this topic08:25
luyao1yes08:25
luyao1https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446820/08:25
huzhjKolla is good at do upgrading between versions, but lacks of a version manager concept08:25
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huzhj#info luyao1 is working on Daisy as Kolla image version manager08:26
huzhj#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446820/08:26
huzhjYes, I saw this PS, but it needs more review08:27
luyao1yes,maybe something I do not consider of08:27
zhouyagreat08:27
huzhjluyao1 can you please show us the design/spec  about this work?08:27
luyao1yes08:27
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huzhjdo you prefer write it right now or write a spec file later offline and send us through email?08:28
luyao1firstly,version manage like version add/list/..is already suppout08:28
luyao1ok08:28
huzhjOK08:28
luyao1I can write  a spec file later offline08:28
huzhjIs the preloaded version is treated as the default version by Daisy?08:29
huzhjI think we still need the preloaded version after support version manage08:30
huzhjwhat do you think?08:30
luyao1what's the meaing of preload version08:31
luyao1we need proload version before deploy08:31
huzhjluyao1 I mean the kolla image that loaded during daisy install08:31
huzhj#info luyao1 will write a spec do describe the version manager08:31
huzhj#undo08:31
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #info luyao1 will write a spec do describe the version manager08:32
luyao1but not necessary.08:32
huzhj#action luyao1 will write a spec do describe the version manager08:32
huzhjSo we don not load any kolla image during daisy installation any more after your work?08:32
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luyao1yes,I move code in daisy version install of load version08:33
luyao1when use daisy install cluster command,it can get version by path or by version_id08:33
luyao1then load it08:34
huzhjOK, got it.08:34
zhouyaSO if we do not have a version.08:34
zhouyado we have a error log ?08:34
huzhjso no we need to pass an additional argument to daisy install API to get the old job done, right?08:34
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huzhjThis seems to be a backward compatible problem, so make sure to also modify the down stream code ,such as OPNFV to adapt your change...08:35
luyao1when daisy install finish ,we update tecs_version_id to database to show version install success08:35
luyao1yes,opnfv code need change08:36
huzhj#info after luyao1's work, no more preloaded kolla image. user need to provide a version _id to call into daisy install API. This seems to be a backward compatible problem, so make sure to also modify the down stream code ,such as OPNFV to adapt your change...08:37
huzhjluyao1, but how a user can know what the value of version_id is?08:37
luyao1when creat cluster ,we choose version_id and update to cluster database08:38
huzhjI mean if there is more that one version, how a user can tell one from another, when creat cluster08:39
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luyao1every version have a version_id and version_name is unique08:40
luyao1in dashborad we choose version name to update version08:40
luyao1to cluster database08:40
huzhjso what about the command line user? such as automatic CI script?08:41
luyao1first we get version_id by version-name with command "daisy version list"08:42
huzhjGreat08:42
huzhjSo daisy version list is the KEY08:42
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luyao1then client.cluster.add/update("tecs_version_id": "xxxx")08:42
huzhjOK08:43
luyao1yes08:43
zhouyacan we modify tecs_version_id to openstack_version_id?08:43
huzhjOK, anything else for this topic?08:43
luyao1oh firstly is daisy version-add version_name backend to generate version-id08:43
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huzhjSo user should manually add version info into daisy right?08:44
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luyao1then use "daisy version-list" to get needed version_id08:44
luyao1yes08:44
luyao1it should  manually add version info08:44
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huzhjOK, just a little bit complex08:45
luyao1sorry ,I describe fuzzy08:45
huzhjmay be a default, pre-existed(not loaded) version can solve this08:45
huzhjOK, let's move on08:46
huzhjto next topic08:46
luyao1ok08:46
huzhj#topic OPNFV: VM/BM Deployment & Functest Integration08:46
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huzhjDo we have Julien/Serena online? They have done a lot of Great Jobs these days08:47
luyao1good08:48
huzhjalso zhouya08:48
huzhjSo zhouya, is there any status update from your side?08:49
zhouyawe have some problem whild query the progress of openstack installation08:49
zhouyaand I am work on finding the caution of this question.08:49
luyao12.28's version is good now08:50
luyao1maybe some change cause it?08:50
zhouyaso it is our upstream code caused the problem?08:50
huzhj#info we have some problem whild query the progress of openstack installation08:50
zhouyamaybe the commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441791/ caused the problem08:51
huzhjBut we are tagged right? why still use new code?08:51
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zhouyajust this patch is downloaded additional08:52
zhouyaand the other code is tagged08:52
huzhjzhouya, if there is a doubt , just revert it and to see if bug can be solved08:53
zhouyaok,I will revert the code and have a test of the reverted version.08:53
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huzhjnot revert all changes, just the changes about the threading prepare.sh08:54
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zhouyaok08:54
zhouyajust this commit  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441791/08:54
huzhjdoes prepare.sh report progress to DB?08:54
zhouyayes08:55
zhouyaif prepare.sh have done successfully,10% will write to DB08:55
huzhjtry not let it to report08:55
huzhjbut let the main thread to report08:55
huzhjOh forget it08:56
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zhouyamaybe we should change the code to let the progress of DB update after all thread have execute successfully.08:56
huzhjI thought there may be race condition, but it should be not08:56
luyao1sorry ,I just say deploy successfully in 10.62.105.18 every day'jenkins triger08:57
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zhouyaso ,it is not on 114 node?08:57
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huzhjzhouya, if each prepare.sh just update its own progress, then there shoud be no race condition08:58
zhouyaI think 114 node is deployed failed all the time.08:58
luyao1the node I see is 10.62.105.18,and it be deploy every day08:58
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zhouyaeach prepare.sh just update the progress of their own node which they executed on.08:59
huzhjlet's double check them offline08:59
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huzhj#info we need to dive deep into the progress update/read mechanizm09:00
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huzhj#info, pass functest depends on support Ceph/Cinder09:01
huzhjanything else?09:02
huzhjWe are running out of time09:02
huzhjlet's wrap this up09:02
huzhjthank you all09:03
luyao1no09:03
luyao1thanks09:03
huzhjhave a good weekend09:03
huzhjbye09:03
huzhj#endmeeting09:03
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ttx#startmeeting releaseteam15:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Mar 17 15:01:41 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam'15:01
ttxcourtesy ping dims, sigmavirus, tonyb, stevemar15:02
ttxAgenda at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-relmgt-tracking15:02
ttx(in R-24 week)15:02
ttx#topic Pike plan status updates15:02
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ttxI wanted to update the tracking15:02
ttxI think this can be considered done: Consolidate the release tools that use the releases repository data in the releases repository (dhellmann)15:02
ttxSame for 'Port all release tools to work under python 3 (dims, dhellmann, others can help too)' ?15:03
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dhellmanna big portion of the first is done; I'll look into whether it's fully complete15:03
dhellmannfor the second, we still need to update the tools in the project-config repo15:03
ttxoh, ok15:03
dhellmannat least one of those relies on python2, though15:03
ttxlet's keep that open then15:04
dimsi didn't end up doing much here for this15:04
dhellmannthe launchpad updater15:04
ttxNext I wanted us to mark "PIKE-1" tasks that are assigned to you that you intend to complete by then15:04
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ttxso feel free to go through the list and tag those15:04
ttxdhellmann: we have a common one around asking for a TC resolution... should we try to do that bny Pike-1 ?15:05
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dhellmannah, the announcement email stuff still needs to be either moved or ported to python 3 or both15:05
ttxby*15:05
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ttxI have a long backlog of things to push to TC15:05
ttxso I wouldn't mind Pike 215:05
dhellmannyeah, I can take a stab at writing a draft of that when I get back from PTO at the end of the month15:05
ttxok, let's target to pike1 then15:06
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ttxFinally we don't have an assignee for the "support storyboard in openstack/releases" task15:06
ttxI could probably tackle it in Pike215:07
ttxbut if more uregnt I wouldn't mind people taking it over15:07
ttxin case anyone wants to play with StoryBoard API15:07
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ttx(dhellmann already did the first two steps)15:08
ttxOk, I'll mark it as mine for Pike-2, with a "feel free to take over" mention)15:08
dhellmannI was surprised that there was no python-storyboardclient release15:08
fungiworth noting we have a few repos migrating from lp to sb on monday15:08
fungimonasca, refstack and defcore15:08
dhellmannthat's going to make the task a little more difficult15:08
dhellmanntheir releases will work, but the stories won't get comments when they are released15:09
ttxdhellmann: we could make that happen I think15:09
ttx(storyboardclient releases)15:09
dhellmannwe need to decide what we actually want to have happen there, do we want to try to update the state or just leave a comment?15:09
dhellmannif there's no release, is the code even functional?15:09
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ttxjust leave comment for now15:09
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fungiyeah, i don't think those teams are too worried about the lack of release automation commenting in resolved stories for the moment15:10
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ttxOK, anything else to report on the pike-plan ?15:10
fungione other point on presence/absence of a client lib for sb... when jeblair wrote boartty he just had it do direct calls to the rest api15:11
dhellmannnothing from me15:11
ttx#topic Priority reviews15:11
dhellmannfungi : yeah, I guess the sb team is focused on the JS client15:11
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ttxLooks like we are on top of our review queue15:11
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dhellmannthat's the shortest it has been in a while :-)15:12
ttxCould use russellb's advice on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443748/15:13
dimsyay15:13
ttxdhellmann: he mentions a discussion with you on release models15:13
dhellmannit sounds like we need to explain why we want them to use the cycle model there15:13
dhellmannyeah, russellb and I talked on irc15:13
dhellmannor maybe even in our 1:1, now that I think of it15:14
russellbyeah we talked briefly, i was convinced enough of the value15:14
ttxI don't know the project in question, so i don't want to make assumptions on what is the best model for them, but I suspect Russell has enough view on both sides15:14
dhellmannI'll try to compose something and put it in the patch today15:14
ttxok15:14
russellbbecause i don't see the stable branches as taking *that* much extra overhead15:14
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ttximho it depends how tied to openstack it is15:14
russellbbecause i'd imagine they sit mostly idle ... it probably won't be that active of a repo15:14
russellbfrom a technology perspective, it's not tied to openstack anymore15:15
russellbbut openstack is still the vast majority consumer15:15
russellbthere's one other project that isn't openstack that is using it15:15
ttxok, I'll let you guys elaborate on the review15:16
dhellmannthe main benefit is that the downstream packagers keep coming back and asking why we're releasing "parts of openstack" that don't have stable branches15:16
dhellmannit interferes with the automation they have in place to consume what we produce15:16
russellbdhellmann: +115:16
ttxAny other review we need to pay attention to ?15:16
russellbconsistency so that it's just 1 of many repos that fit a pattern is why i'm good with it15:16
russellbanyway, happy to help in follow up ...15:17
dhellmannthanks, russellb15:17
ttx#topic Open discussion15:17
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ttxThere are reveiws up for setting shade/requestsexceptions model15:17
ttxdoesn't seem to be in a hurry since it's not approved yet15:18
dhellmannwe're waiting on the governance change to make that a standalone team15:18
ttxalso unclear whether they would actually want independent instead of cycle-based15:18
dhellmannthe argument for using cycle-with-intermediary is the same here15:18
dimsy was wondering if they want to be independent15:18
dimsy15:18
dhellmanndownstream, RH wants those stable branches15:18
dhellmannupstream we probably won't use them much15:18
ttxok15:19
ttxWith dhellmann in PTO next week I propose we skip the meeting15:19
fungii realized earlier this week i need to press forward on swapping the pike development key we created into production, so hope to get that through system-config today and then have the releases site update (with the correct dates) proposed shortly thereafter15:19
ttxok to skip ?15:20
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dhellmannttx: I'm out on my next two release rotation days (next week and the 28th)15:20
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dhellmannskipping is obviously fine with me :-)15:20
ttxyou're covering... Tuesday or Thursday those days ?15:20
dhellmannTuesday15:20
ttxok, will be extra attention then15:21
ttxpay*15:21
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dhellmannusually Monday and Tuesday, but mainly Tuesday15:21
ttxanything else ?15:21
dhellmannI didn't have anything to bring up this week15:21
ttxok, let's close early then15:22
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dhellmann++15:22
ttxThanks everyone. Have a great weekend. dhellmann, enjoy your time out15:22
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dhellmannthanks!15:22
ttx#endmeeting15:22
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dimssafe travels dhellmann15:24
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dhellmannthanks, dims15:24
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