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| astarove | hi all | 14:00 |
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| andreykurilin | hi hi | 14:00 |
| andreykurilin | #startmeeting Rally | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 14:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreykurilin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| andreykurilin | ok | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin | let's start | 14:05 |
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| andreykurilin | actually, I do not have much to discuss | 14:06 |
| astudenov | hi | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin | #topic Rally 0.8.0 | 14:06 |
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| andreykurilin | last time we discussed upcoming release | 14:07 |
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| andreykurilin | but unfortunately, we did not finish everything what we want last during last week | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | I hope we will merge all required patches today or tomorrow | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | and will able to cut a release | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | currently I had only one topic to discuss | 14:08 |
| andreykurilin | about how to name one new entuty | 14:08 |
| andreykurilin | *entity | 14:08 |
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| andreykurilin | #topic "Verifier Type" vs "Verifier Plugin" vs "Verifier Driver" | 14:08 |
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| andreykurilin | so actually, "verifier type" is a python class which describes an interface for particular tool | 14:09 |
| andreykurilin | "verifier" is an installed "verifier type" | 14:09 |
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| andreykurilin | Imo, previous choosen verion "verifier type" is too complicated and maybe we should rename it to just "verifier plugin" or "verifier driver" | 14:10 |
| andreykurilin | *version | 14:10 |
| andreykurilin | what do you thing about it? | 14:10 |
| andreykurilin | astarove astudenov: ^ | 14:11 |
| astarove | i don't like 'driver\ in title | 14:11 |
| astudenov | plugin sounds better | 14:11 |
| astarove | it sound like hardware driver or something - for me | 14:11 |
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| andreykurilin | ok, several folks are not here, but they can participate via Gitter | 14:14 |
| andreykurilin | so let's wait a minute | 14:14 |
| andreykurilin | everybody agreed to switch to"Verifier Plugin" | 14:16 |
| andreykurilin | nice | 14:16 |
| andreykurilin | nothing to discuss more from my side | 14:17 |
| andreykurilin | #topic Open discussion | 14:17 |
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| andreykurilin | anything else, folks? | 14:17 |
| astudenov | nothing from my side | 14:17 |
| andreykurilin | ok, let's finish:( | 14:18 |
| andreykurilin | #endmeeting | 14:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 14:18:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2017/rally.2017-01-23-14.01.html | 14:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2017/rally.2017-01-23-14.01.txt | 14:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2017/rally.2017-01-23-14.01.log.html | 14:18 |
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| astarove | no | 14:18 |
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| lennyb | #startmeeting third-party | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 15:01:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
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| lennyb | Hello | 15:01 |
| mptacekx | Hi | 15:02 |
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| asselin_ | hi | 15:03 |
| mptacekx | may I propose one topic ? (3rd party CI - using hugepages on nodepool VM's) | 15:04 |
| lennyb | hello everybody | 15:04 |
| lennyb | mptaceks, go ahead | 15:04 |
| lennyb | mptacekx, go ahead | 15:04 |
| mmedvede | o/ | 15:05 |
| lennyb | mptacekx, please ask | 15:05 |
| mptacekx | thanks, on our CI we're testing ovs-dpdk on VM's. So we have hugepages configured on them, alas after some time (4+ weeks) env looks to be slower and less stable | 15:06 |
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| mptacekx | the question is whether anyone from this round have some experience with hugepages on 3rd party CI's ? | 15:07 |
| lennyb | mmedvede, asselin_ do you use hugepages in VMs? any ideas/proposals how to clean/fix this? | 15:07 |
| asselin_ | no we don't | 15:07 |
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| mmedvede | we do not as well | 15:07 |
| mptacekx | we also see gradual increase of "inactively" used RAM on hypervisors, expecting that something is not getting cleaned | 15:07 |
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| mptacekx | it disappears after reboot, which is naturally not the best choice how to fix that :-) | 15:08 |
| asselin_ | seems like an issue in the underlying cloud. | 15:08 |
| asselin_ | have you searched for exisitng bug reports? | 15:08 |
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| mptacekx | I guess it's too specific, the question is whether we should configure hugepages also on hypervisor level | 15:09 |
| mptacekx | btw usually we don't do any maintenance in CI's (inc. reboots) ? | 15:10 |
| mptacekx | currently running zuul v2.1 -> would like to move to v2.5.1 soon (eventually 3.x) | 15:10 |
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| asselin_ | I don't think it's related to zuul | 15:11 |
| asselin_ | do you use nodepool? | 15:11 |
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| mptacekx | jup | 15:11 |
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| lennyb | mptaceks, we used hugepages in vm in another project and if I recall correctly we configured hugepages in hypervisor as well. but we never run this setup for that long | 15:12 |
| asselin_ | nodepool does create and delete a lot of VMs. Perhaps there's a bug in the underlying cloud that is "leaking" resources after a certain number of create/delete cycles | 15:12 |
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| mptacekx | I also don't think it's related to zuul, I put it here just to my general question about maintenance in other CI's and reboot ? | 15:12 |
| mmedvede | re maintenance, we restart zuul every week as a preventative measure | 15:13 |
| mptacekx | probably we should configure them and also we would have better overview about how they are occupied/freed then | 15:13 |
| mmedvede | mptacekx: what version of OpenStack are you running? | 15:14 |
| mptacekx | no reboot on hypervisors ? "just service restart) are hypervisors running all the time ... | 15:14 |
| lennyb | mmedvede, why? if there a reason/instability why not open a bug? | 15:14 |
| mptacekx | mitaka | 15:14 |
| mmedvede | there used to be a few memory leaks in the past | 15:14 |
| mmedvede | ok, I am not aware on any memory leaks in mitaka | 15:15 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: zuul appears to be leaking ram for me. And I am not running the latest | 15:16 |
| lennyb | mmedvede, i see, we are using 2.5, but from time to time it has some strange behavior. maybe I will add restart as well :) | 15:16 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: I brought it up at some point, and there were patches to fix the leak, which helped. But it is still getting to very hight RAM utilization if you do not periodically restart it | 15:17 |
| lennyb | any other ideas/questions regarding hugepages issue? | 15:17 |
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| lennyb | next issue | 15:18 |
| mptacekx | on v 2.1 we also had that damned issue with keeping list of all projects in layout.yaml, otherwise zuul might stalls (in some discussions I found it should be fixed in v 2.5.x), so I hope it won't be neccessary in v 2.5.x scope | 15:18 |
| mptacekx | thanks for your time regarding hugepages | 15:18 |
| lennyb | mptacekx, thanks for bringing this up | 15:18 |
| lennyb | I've added a patch to overcome nodepool-base element installation with all openstack repo https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424000/1 | 15:19 |
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| lennyb | I am working on nodepool and asselin_ work on comon ci solution is very helpful | 15:19 |
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| lennyb | I wander if jenkins configuration and installation of additional plugins can be done through the puppets | 15:20 |
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| asselin_ | lennyb, additional plugin install yes. jenkins config yes, but it's a bit involved | 15:21 |
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| lennyb | asselin_, thanks, I will check when I will have some time | 15:22 |
| lennyb | I also notices that if there are some critical errors/expcetions in zuul/nodepool it's not printed to the logs and you need to run it manually to see the problem | 15:23 |
| asselin_ | lennyb, yes, I've seen that too...especially for issue that happen during service startup | 15:24 |
| lennyb | asselin_, yeap, no .pid file is a good symptom that something wrong | 15:24 |
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| lennyb | mmedvede, thanks for helping with nodepool | 15:25 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: glad to help | 15:26 |
| lennyb | asselin_, mmedvede, mptacekx any other issues/announcements/topics to share? | 15:26 |
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| asselin_ | not from me | 15:28 |
| mmedvede | I have nothing | 15:29 |
| lennyb | asselin_, mmedvede, mptacekx thanks for coming. I am closing the meeting | 15:30 |
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| lennyb | #endmeeting | 15:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 15:30:38 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2017/third_party.2017-01-23-15.01.html | 15:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2017/third_party.2017-01-23-15.01.txt | 15:30 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 16:02:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | hi | 16:02 |
| ddeja | hello | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: everything's fine? | 16:02 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: yeah, sure. How about you | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | aah, more or less ok too | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | a lot of stuff going on | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | ok, is there anybody else here? | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ^ | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | mgershen1: ^ | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: ^ | 16:05 |
| rbrady | hey | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | hi Ryan | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | I reviewed your WIP, let's discuss it in a few | 16:05 |
| rbrady | ack | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's start | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review action items | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | 1. review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411412/ | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | done (will discuss it later) | 16:06 |
| d0ugal | Hey all | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | 2. rakhmerov: find Hardik's proposal on testing OpenStack actions | 16:06 |
| d0ugal | Sorry I'm late. | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | done | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: np | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | thanks for joining | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: sent a few relatively simple patches including fixing a bug with task() function w/o a task name, made a bunch of reviews | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | keep investigating big input size issue reported by tuan__ and colleagues | 16:08 |
| tuan__ | Hi Renat | 16:08 |
| tuan__ | let;s talk about it tomorrow | 16:08 |
| ddeja | my status: finished refactoring of getting the rpc-related flag and finishing the multi-rabbit support in kombu driver. I'm hoping to get it merged before the freeze | 16:08 |
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| tuan__ | i will try to provide more information | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | tuan__: yes, ok. I don't have any new updates on it now, I should have more tomorrow | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: can you explain a bit why multi-rabbit support is needed? | 16:10 |
| d0ugal | I fixed an issue with name validation and posted this patch: https://review.openstack.org/412433 | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | what use case does it cover? | 16:10 |
| d0ugal | Looks like I have a CI issue to resolve, but that aims to improve action loading in Mistral. | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ok, cool | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: and how does it actually work? | 16:11 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: when you have more than one rabbit host | 16:11 |
| ddeja | and want to automatically switch beetwen them when one of them dies | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, you mean for rabbit deployed in HA? | 16:11 |
| ddeja | yes | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | I see | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | but it's still one Rabbit cluster? | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | right? | 16:11 |
| ddeja | yes | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | ok, now clear | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | I thought it's for multiple clusters :) | 16:12 |
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| ddeja | no no, that would be magic ;) | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | I was wondering why we would ever need it.. | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Ocata-3 state | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | small announcement | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | this week we're releasing O-3 | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | this cycle was very short comparing to the previous ones | 16:13 |
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| d0ugal | yeah, scary short :-D | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | so, before this Fri we need to merge all the new features that we want to have in Ocata | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | I don't think we have many of those but please check whether you need something urgently | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | so, starting this Friday no new features in Ocata | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | we can use FFE if we need to but only if we really need something very much | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | I would also ask you to check all of your patches for everything to see if what is still possible to merge before Fri | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | maybe some small improvements, bugs etc. | 16:17 |
| ddeja | sure | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | I believe we have lots of relatively small things that have been waiting their turn for a while | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | and please also review stuff actively this week | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | in general, this Ocata cycle turned to be pretty messy | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | mostly my fault, of course | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | although we discussed a lot of stuff in Barcelona, not much of that was really done | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | for various reasons | 16:19 |
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| ddeja | like in other projects, I guess | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | including changing priorities during development (internal influence) | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: yeah, but usually we did slightly better in this regard | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | anyway, I think that's generally ok | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | that fact that priorities are changing is good | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | people are using Mistral and coming with new urgent requests | 16:20 |
| d0ugal | I think everyone was shocked how fast the time went | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | typically we would have 1.5 months more | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | that's all I wanted to say | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | on this | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | we still have about a month for bugfixing etc. | 16:21 |
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| d0ugal | Sounds good, there are lots of bugs and documentation improvements we can make :) | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | true | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | on documentation, the light is green | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | we can be improving it all the way till the PTG | 16:23 |
| d0ugal | (and beyond!) | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | yes ) | 16:23 |
| mgershen | +1 | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | and btw, I think we made a really noticeable progress on docs | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: ooh, I again didn't realize you were here :) | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | hi! | 16:24 |
| mgershen | Hi! | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: Michal, any updates from your side? | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: thanks for reviewing patches actively! | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | you're making good progress | 16:25 |
| mgershen | I should update the documentation with the new function I added a few weeks back. | 16:25 |
| mgershen | rakhmerov: thanks :) | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: ok, good | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open discussion | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, any topics you'd like to discuss? | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | we put even more topics for the PTG | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | I think we now have VERY MUCH to discuss there | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | I'll be working on filling them with more details | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | not too much time left till then | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | rbrady, d0ugal: I reviewed a WIP for keystone utils, exceptions etc. in mistral-lib | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | I left some comments, please take a look | 16:28 |
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| rbrady | rakhmerov: thanks. I've been reading | 16:28 |
| d0ugal | I'll take a look later. | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | my big concern with this whole thing is decomposition of source code into multiple modules | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | maybe it's not something that we can find a good vision for, but I'm just bringing it up so we're more prepared before the PTG | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | for example, do we need to move all of our exceptions from 'mistral' to 'mistral-lib'? | 16:29 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: I can explain a little bit that might set some context | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | same about context thing, keystone, utils etc. | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | my fear is that it won't be convenient during server-side development because 'mistral' will have another dependency that should be changing all the time | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: yes, go ahead | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | so, we need to reasonable about what we keep in 'mistral' and what we move into 'mistral-lib' | 16:31 |
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| rbrady | rakhmerov: when I started moving code into the mistral_lib repo, I was under the assumption that mistral would take a dependency on mistral_lib | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | right | 16:32 |
| rbrady | mistral_lib would then contain the minimum code needed for the actions | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | yes | 16:32 |
| rbrady | I knew from past experience the keystone_utils were important if you were doing anything with openstack lients | 16:32 |
| rbrady | so I started there | 16:32 |
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| rbrady | to move over the keystone utils, I needed the context | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | and it sucked in the rest? | 16:33 |
| rbrady | I couldn't make a circular dependency, so the context was ported | 16:33 |
| rbrady | yes! | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | aah... | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | I see now | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | I didn't realize it when I was reviewing the patch actually | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | hah.. | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | so somehow we should keep it small | 16:34 |
| rbrady | so the conventions issue - I assumed the non-public classes and methods that would be subject to change would follow the underscore naming convention | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | maybe not all of the keystone stuff is needed that we have on the server-side? | 16:35 |
| rbrady | that's a question I can look into, but I don't have an answer to that yet | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: you mean even classes should contain _ if they are private to the project? | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | how typical is it for python? If it is pretty typical then it's probably OK | 16:36 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | I'm not insisting really, I just want to make it clear somehow for users of these public clases | 16:37 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: if you look at the oslo projects, they use underscores to mark private files, variables etc. | 16:37 |
| rbrady | I've been thinking that most of the other information intended to be passed from server-side to a custom action - it would be appended to the context object | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: yeah, but what I remembered is that this doesn't tell anything about module and class names | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ok, no problem | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: yeah, I saw some | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal, rbrady: ok, let's proceed with underscores, no objections | 16:39 |
| tuan__ | rakhmerov: it should be like this in python | 16:39 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: there are some naming guidelines for classes | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | honestly, I probably just don't like this underscore thing.. :) | 16:40 |
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| rakhmerov | but that's my personal issue though | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | nevermind | 16:40 |
| rbrady | rahkmerov: lol | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I'm still kind of alien in Python | 16:41 |
| d0ugal | lol | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | although I've been using it for 4 years | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | yeah :))) | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | that would be a really cool idea for a t-shirt design :) | 16:42 |
| ddeja | since we are bringing funny stuff | 16:42 |
| ddeja | http://dom.trojmiasto.pl/Mistral-i249.html | 16:42 |
| rbrady | rahkmerov: I appreciate the review and will respond to the patch comments to keep the conversation going | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | "Still feel an alien in the Python world? You're not alone!" | 16:43 |
| ddeja | just found out that there is a buliding developer in my city that is called mistral | 16:43 |
| d0ugal | nice | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: ok, np | 16:43 |
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| rakhmerov | let's just try to prepare for the PTG as much as possible | 16:43 |
| rbrady | rahkmerov: ack | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | including getting familiar with SS actions design | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: haha, cool :) | 16:44 |
| d0ugal | sorry, I need to leave. I have some chores to do | 16:44 |
| ddeja | that's better link :D http://www.mistral.ekolan.pl/ | 16:44 |
| * d0ugal waves | 16:44 | |
| tuan__ | :D | 16:45 |
| rbrady | bye d0ugal | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ok, see you online tomorrow | 16:45 |
| tuan__ | well, for the underscore stuff | 16:45 |
| tuan__ | https://shahriar.svbtle.com/underscores-in-python | 16:45 |
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| tuan__ | you guys can take a look to this one | 16:45 |
| tuan__ | but it is necessary | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | ok, rbrady: I don't see a simple solution for that dependency problems | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | we need to brainstorm it somehow | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | I'd like that ddeja to be also involved into this | 16:45 |
| rbrady | rahkmerov: I will attempt to write up some thoughts to present it better to the group at PTG | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | he usually comes with good ideas | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | yes, please | 16:46 |
| rbrady | rahkmerov: I think I might be able to explain it better in person. maybe. | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | I really want to knock it down in Pike | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | but for that we need to solve all the fundamental problems | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:47 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, if there's nothing else you'd like to discuss now we can close the meeting | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | 12 mins left | 16:47 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: I'm done | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:48 |
| rbrady | I'm good | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: btw, do you have a context of this Actions API thing? | 16:48 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: a little bit | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | it'd be cool if you could participate too | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | at least in thinking and discussions | 16:48 |
| ddeja | I can try ;) | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | it's not as simple as we thought it would be so we probably need more brains | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:49 |
| rbrady | rahkmerov: my intent is to try to make it as simple as possible. I promise. :) | 16:49 |
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| rakhmerov | ddeja: we can discuss more it in our channel | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: hope so! | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | ok, bye everyone | 16:50 |
| rbrady | bye | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | thanks guys and have a good wekk | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | week | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 16:50:22 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-01-23-16.02.html | 16:50 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-01-23-16.02.txt | 16:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2017/mistral.2017-01-23-16.02.log.html | 16:50 |
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| mgershen | BYE | 16:51 |
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| dasm | o/ | 21:00 |
| armax | yello | 21:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 21:00 |
| hichihara | o/ | 21:00 |
| haleyb | hi | 21:00 |
| janzian | o/ | 21:00 |
| yamahata | hi | 21:00 |
| armax | hi folks | 21:00 |
| armax | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 23 21:00:52 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 21:01 |
| annp | hi | 21:01 |
| asingh_ | hello | 21:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 21:01 |
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| dasanind | o/ | 21:01 |
| armax | #topic announcements and reminders | 21:01 |
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| armax | This week is a crucial week | 21:02 |
| mlavalle | indeed | 21:02 |
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| armax | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 21:02 |
| electrocucaracha | o/ | 21:02 |
| armax | it’s Ocata-3 week | 21:03 |
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| armax | this means we’re gonna go in feature freeze | 21:03 |
| armax | we’ll have to wrap up whatever we have outstanding | 21:03 |
| armax | and make sure we give absolute priority to things are close to crossing the finishing line | 21:03 |
| armax | it’s also Pike PTL self-nomination week | 21:04 |
| Sukhdev | Hi | 21:04 |
| armax | which means we will have a new PTL starting the week of Feb 06 | 21:05 |
| armax | I’ll work with him/her to ensure a smooth transition | 21:05 |
| manjeets | o/ | 21:05 |
| armax | in relation to the release and PTG organization | 21:05 |
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| armax | it’s also the week where we need to nail down our client release | 21:07 |
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| armax | hopefully we’ll be able to cut an RC1 as early as next week so that we create a stable branch and open master for Pike immediately after that | 21:08 |
| armax | anyone else has anything to add? | 21:08 |
| ihrachys | armax: question on the last one | 21:09 |
| armax | ihrachys: yes, sir | 21:09 |
| sindhu | o/ | 21:09 |
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| ihrachys | armax: once stable branch is cut off, are we free to land Pike stuff, or you want some cool off period still? | 21:09 |
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| armax | ihrachys: so long as what we land in pike is not gonna screw up our ability to backport cleanly | 21:10 |
| johndperkins | + | 21:10 |
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| ihrachys | that's hard to assess sometimes, but gotcha | 21:10 |
| armax | ihrachys: you raise a good point, we just need to be careful to what we merge in pike | 21:10 |
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| armax | ihrachys: agreed | 21:11 |
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| armax | we have the option of taking the hard line and block everything until we’re absolutely sure we have a good RC | 21:11 |
| armax | but that seems to defeat the point of cutting a stable branch | 21:11 |
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| armax | or merge everything as it was business as usual, but that’s risky as well | 21:11 |
| ihrachys | yea, I wouldn't like that. two branches are intended to be able to land in both. :) | 21:12 |
| armax | I think targeted changes should be fine | 21:12 |
| armax | things like API and DB changes are always risky to land asap | 21:12 |
| armax | for instance | 21:12 |
| ihrachys | ok, the usual 'be cautious' approach, sounds good to me | 21:12 |
| armax | I mean API or DB related changes | 21:12 |
| armax | yeah, and we’ve done this for a while now, I think we have a pretty good handle on it | 21:13 |
| armax | dasm and I will work on cutting O-3 and the client release by Thurday this week | 21:14 |
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| dasm | aye aye, sir | 21:14 |
| armax | let’s make sure we line all our ducks in the right row :) | 21:15 |
| armax | any other announcement/reminder? | 21:15 |
| armax | looks like we’re good | 21:16 |
| armax | moving on | 21:16 |
| armax | #topic blueprints | 21:16 |
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| armax | Any patch worth raising awareness for? | 21:17 |
| mlavalle | I need a final nudge for this one: | 21:17 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358658/ | 21:17 |
| armax | hang on | 21:17 |
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| armax | I feel we have a gate failure | 21:17 |
| armax | going on | 21:17 |
| armax | was looking at zuul | 21:18 |
| armax | to see how light the load was | 21:18 |
| armax | http://logs.openstack.org/78/423578/2/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-ubuntu-xenial/2a25430/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2017-01-23_20_35_26_914 | 21:18 |
| dasm | jenkins seems to beis crazy lately. random -1/-2 without any reason | 21:18 |
| armax | not sure if it’s me feaking out | 21:18 |
| armax | or there’s something going on | 21:18 |
| dasm | armax: this seems to be related to osc, if i recall correctly | 21:19 |
| dasm | osc is almost entirely red right now | 21:19 |
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| dasm | and python-neutronclient had osc-check-plugins gate failing | 21:19 |
| armax | I see this | 21:19 |
| armax | http://logs.openstack.org/93/404293/41/check/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-ubuntu-xenial/0b6f384/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz#_2017-01-23_19_02_20_389 | 21:19 |
| armax | at least twice | 21:19 |
| armax | so STOP the merging! | 21:19 |
| dasm | abandon the ship! | 21:20 |
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| kevinbenton | okay :( | 21:20 |
| * armax runs to get a life vest | 21:20 | |
| kevinbenton | or maybe merging more code will make it go faster? | 21:20 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 21:20 |
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| armax | I wonder if a G-R requirement bump went undetected | 21:21 |
| ihrachys | I have some OVO patches worth a look even if not merging right away, not sure if I get a separate slot for that though | 21:21 |
| * armax looking | 21:22 | |
| * manjeets just reported a bug for grenade failure over gate | 21:22 | |
| armax | https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L257 | 21:22 |
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| njohnston | I hope to have this patch passing all tests tomorrow - it's the last piece that fwaas v2 depends on outside the neutron-fwaas repository: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348177/ | 21:23 |
| armax | the packaging requirment issue seems a red-herring | 21:23 |
| armax | manjeets: bug no? | 21:24 |
| manjeets | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1658806 | 21:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658806 in neutron "Broken grenade jobs" [Undecided,New] | 21:24 |
| manjeets | i see same failure on 3 patches | 21:25 |
| manjeets | which were in merge queue | 21:25 |
| armax | manjeets: neutron changes? | 21:25 |
| manjeets | just openned a ticket for investigation | 21:25 |
| manjeets | its failing at deployment phase | 21:26 |
| armax | ok, I guess this fire has just brought us to the next section | 21:26 |
| armax | #topic Bugs and Gate issues | 21:26 |
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| armax | is there anyone interested in looking into bug 1658806 | 21:27 |
| openstack | bug 1658806 in neutron "Broken grenade jobs" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1658806 | 21:27 |
| armax | ? | 21:27 |
| armax | as far as I can tell this happens for multinode too | 21:28 |
| armax | and in the gate | 21:28 |
| armax | http://logs.openstack.org/01/301801/2/gate/gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-ubuntu-xenial/793c1bd/logs/grenade.sh.txt.gz | 21:28 |
| manjeets | i think its version mismatch issue packaging 16.7 on machine if it will be 16.8 | 21:28 |
| manjeets | i hope issue will be resolved on all | 21:28 |
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| dasm | armax: i'm looking into that. trying to reach the source (requirements team) to double check this. i believe it's far beyond just neutron | 21:30 |
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| armax | talked to infra | 21:31 |
| armax | it looks like we have a way out | 21:31 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424323/ | 21:31 |
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| manjeets | that'll fix all | 21:31 |
| kevinbenton | so approve all the things now? | 21:31 |
| dasm | armax: ack | 21:31 |
| armax | it’s a requirement change | 21:32 |
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| armax | let’s wait for things to go calm again before opening the flood gates | 21:32 |
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| armax | the top of the queue | 21:33 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/requirements+status:open | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | upper constraints we don't have have to wait for requirements bump though from the bot, right? | 21:33 |
| armax | was also pretty revealing | 21:33 |
| armax | no | 21:33 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: no but the patch is not merged | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | right | 21:33 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: so let's say it's bumped off gate due to some failure | 21:33 |
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| ihrachys | then all we put into gate starts respinning without it, and failing | 21:33 |
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| kevinbenton | no, i just mean we don't have to wait to approve one on neutron as well | 21:34 |
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| ihrachys | yeah, we should only wait until this lands before putting more work in gate. | 21:34 |
| armax | right, but we better wait for the upper constraint to land | 21:34 |
| armax | until we can run on the right constraint | 21:34 |
| armax | the problem is that the issue happens on the stable branch setup | 21:34 |
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| armax | unfortunately the patch is not good in the gate | 21:36 |
| armax | 424323 | 21:36 |
| armax | http://logs.openstack.org/23/424323/1/check/gate-requirements-integration-dsvm-ubuntu-xenial/ca816a0/console.html | 21:36 |
| armax | it’ll probably be a while until we put stuff in the gate | 21:36 |
| ihrachys | I guess we can track that in async mode | 21:37 |
| kevinbenton | shall we just call what we have now the ocata release then :) | 21:37 |
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| armax | ok, let’s move on | 21:38 |
| armax | I’ll send an email to the ML | 21:38 |
| armax | any other gate failure we want to track here? | 21:38 |
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| armax | no? | 21:39 |
| janzian | There is #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1656386 | 21:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1656386 in neutron "Memory leaks on Neutron jobs" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:40 |
| armax | this link begs to differ | 21:40 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=gate-failure | 21:40 |
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| armax | janzian: no assignee on that one | 21:41 |
| janzian | Looks like root cause has proven elusive so far | 21:41 |
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| ihrachys | the size of the list of gate failures corresponds to sad state of our gate | 21:41 |
| armax | this was flagged as a linuxbridge failure | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | it hits the linuxbridge job the most, but it's not clear neutron is at fault | 21:42 |
| armax | but it looks like the jobs involved go beyond linuxbridge alone | 21:42 |
| armax | kevinbenton: it does not look like | 21:42 |
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| armax | I see 12 occurences against 2 between full and linuxbridge in the latest logstash run I am looking at | 21:43 |
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| armax | what’s interesting is that it’s reported 41 times on change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421593/ | 21:44 |
| armax | but it might be a red-herring | 21:45 |
| kevinbenton | what would an abandoned change have to do with it? | 21:45 |
| armax | kevinbenton: that’s what I am saying | 21:45 |
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| janzian | There are a couple other bugs reporting random failures across jobs, they might be stemming from the same problem | 21:46 |
| janzian | Namely #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657761 | 21:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657761 in neutron "ovsdb native interface timeouts sometimes causing random functional failures" [High,New] | 21:46 |
| janzian | And #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1657935 | 21:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657935 in neutron "intermittent failures in setup_physical_bridges" [High,Confirmed] | 21:46 |
| armax | we really need to get to the bottom of the memory leak bug | 21:46 |
| armax | janzian: bug 1657935 might be solved already | 21:46 |
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| armax | I have seen no occurences of it over the past few days, I provided my findings on the bug report | 21:46 |
| janzian | Ah yes, I missed that update | 21:47 |
| armax | anyhow we should probably move along, we took most of the meeting time talking about gate woes | 21:47 |
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| armax | #topic Docs | 21:48 |
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| armax | With feature freeze and the release approaching, let me kindly remind the team that we should take some time document what we did over the past few months | 21:48 |
| armax | so please take the time to review https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc to see if there’s any doc bug that can be squashed | 21:49 |
| mlavalle | armax: I just mrged the update for the networking guide on the work I've been doing for routed networks: | 21:49 |
| mlavalle | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423723/ | 21:49 |
| armax | mlavalle: sweet | 21:49 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | armax: would Feature Classification fall under the feature freeze? | 21:49 |
| mlavalle | it got merged in a couple of days | 21:49 |
| armax | ankur-gupta-f1: what do you mean? | 21:50 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | its nearing completion could it be merged this week potentially, or will i have to wait for stable to be cut | 21:50 |
| armax | ankur-gupta-f1: I am okay merging when it’s ready irrespective of the feature freeze | 21:50 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | okay thanks | 21:51 |
| armax | ankur-gupta-f1: thanks for sticking to it | 21:51 |
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| ankur-gupta-f1 | np. it give me lots of joy | 21:52 |
| armax | #topic OpenStack Client | 21:52 |
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| armax | anything worth sharing here? | 21:52 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | OSC held up on reviews still | 21:52 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-transition-priorities | 21:53 |
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| armax | ankur-gupta-f1: ack | 21:54 |
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| armax | ankur-gupta-f1: I’ll go over the list of patches to see if there’s anything I missed | 21:56 |
| armax | #topiuc Neutron-lib and planned refactoring | 21:56 |
| mlavalle | armax: topic^^^ | 21:56 |
| armax | #topic Neutron-lib and planned refactoring | 21:57 |
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| armax | at this point I’d defer most of LibImpact changes to Pike | 21:58 |
| armax | as we’re approaching feature freeze | 21:58 |
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| armax | ok guys | 21:59 |
| armax | and ladies | 21:59 |
| armax | it looks like we ran out of time | 21:59 |
| njohnston | \o | 21:59 |
| armax | thanks for joining | 21:59 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
| manjeets | thanks | 21:59 |
| dasm | \o | 21:59 |
| dasanind | thanks | 21:59 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 23 21:59:58 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| mlavalle | Thank you | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-01-23-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-01-23-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| hichihara | thanks | 22:00 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | \o/ | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2017/networking.2017-01-23-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
| ankur-gupta-f1 | thanks | 22:00 |
| hoangcx | bye | 22:00 |
| annp | thanks | 22:00 |
| johndperkins | thanks | 22:00 |
| sindhu | thanks | 22:00 |
| asingh_ | bye | 22:00 |
| electrocucaracha | thanks | 22:00 |
| sshank_ | Thanks | 22:00 |
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