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| ekcs | time for congress meeting. ramineni_ thinrichs masahito aimeeu | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: hi! | 00:01 |
| ramineni_ | Hi | 00:01 |
| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 19 00:01:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | hi thinrichs ramineni_ ! | 00:01 |
| aimeeu | greeting all | 00:02 |
| ekcs | welcome back everyone! | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | only items I have in mind are talking about ocata-3. | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | Ocata-3 outstanding patches | 00:03 |
| ekcs | Ocata-3 outstanding/new bugs | 00:03 |
| ekcs | anything else on our minds? | 00:03 |
| aimeeu | etherpad for PTG planning? | 00:03 |
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| masahito | hi all. | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | hi masahito | 00:04 |
| ekcs | aimeeu: ok. | 00:05 |
| bryan_att | hi all, bryan_att lurking | 00:05 |
| ekcs | hi bryan_att ! | 00:05 |
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| bryan_att | hi! | 00:05 |
| ekcs | ok let’s dive in then. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | #topic etherpad for PTG planning | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | So aimeeu I’m guessing what you mean is putting an etherpad in place so people can start putting down ideas and thoughts in PTG planning? | 00:06 |
| aimeeu | yes exactly | 00:06 |
| aimeeu | and then adding the link here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Pike/Etherpads | 00:08 |
| ekcs | ok great I can do that after the meeting | 00:08 |
| ekcs | #action ekcs add PTG planning etherpad | 00:09 |
| aimeeu | ekcs: thanks loads! | 00:09 |
| ekcs | thanks for the minder! | 00:09 |
| ekcs | moving on then. | 00:09 |
| ekcs | #topic Ocata-3 outstanding patches | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | just for background, Ocata-3 is due next week. Testing is underway. | 00:10 |
| ekcs | we did a good job of getting patches in for review last week, but we still have a few outstanding patches unmerged. | 00:10 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/416777 | 00:10 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/417606 | 00:10 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/420653 | 00:10 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/410705 | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | (anything else?) | 00:11 |
| ekcs | I figure we can talk about whether we can/want to merge them quickly. | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | 606 and 653 look about ready to me. Just a bug fix in 606, and then it and the dependent 653 can go in. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | Should be a quick fix. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | 705 looks to be waiting on @masahito to answer the question: is this patch good enough for now? | 00:14 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: makes sense. | 00:14 |
| masahito | thinrichs: I'll check it today. | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | 777 I haven't looked at in depth. Only @masahito has. And it's somewhat thorny. If @masahito thinks its ready, fine with me. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: does your client patch need to go in? Or is it too late for that? | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412386/ | 00:18 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: And the comment for 606 is that the json module can load rule string from json data if it's surrounded by double-quota. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | masahito: It's that the policy language ONLY supports double-quotes. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | So you can write p("abc") but not p('abc') | 00:19 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs: is client release done?? It's a simple patch , but not very imp ...As we have alternate way to do it too .. so either way should be fine | 00:20 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: client release not yet done. plan to do next week concurrently with ocata-3. | 00:20 |
| masahito | thinrichs: when I use congress client, it works with single client. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | masahito: You can insert p('abc') ? | 00:21 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: ok | 00:21 |
| masahito | thinrichs: yes | 00:21 |
| thinrichs | That's surprising. Maybe we added Python-like string handling. | 00:22 |
| masahito | the client changed single quote to double quote in it. | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | interesting it seems to convert to double quotes. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | $ openstack congress policy rule create action "p('abc')" | 00:23 |
| masahito | then it calls API with p("abc"). | 00:23 |
| ekcs | +---------+--------------------------------------+ | 00:23 |
| ekcs | | Field | Value | | 00:23 |
| ekcs | +---------+--------------------------------------+ | 00:23 |
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| ekcs | | comment | | | 00:23 |
| ekcs | | id | d1a4c333-a71d-4f49-8fa8-c42abadea41c | | 00:23 |
| ekcs | | name | None | | 00:23 |
| ekcs | | rule | p("abc") | | 00:23 |
| ekcs | +---------+--------------------------------------+ | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | Looking at the grammar, any Python string should work. Forgot about that. | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | When we are printing out the rule we always use double-quotes. | 00:24 |
| masahito | I think there're two option. | 00:24 |
| thinrichs | masahito: then the comment in the 606 should be: have you tested the code with p("abc") AND p('abc')? | 00:25 |
| masahito | thinrichs: p("abc") in json file doesn't work | 00:26 |
| masahito | because json module thinks "rule": "p("abc")" is "rule": "p(" and abc")" | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | What if someone escaped the quotes, such as "rule": "p(\"abc\")"? That would be valid JSON (I think). | 00:27 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: this works. | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | Okay, then it's fine as is I'd say. | 00:28 |
| masahito | my another idea is using yaml file instead of json | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | We could always change it over to yaml later, but leaving it as JSON lets us get the functionality into ocata3 | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | I'd say we can merge those 2 right away. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | +1 | 00:29 |
| masahito | +1 | 00:29 |
| ekcs | ok then! | 00:30 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: what do you think about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412386/ ? | 00:32 |
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| ekcs | it looks fine to me. a little strange that we’re going to have failing osc test from now on. | 00:32 |
| ekcs | it’s required to support horizon getting subscribers? | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | Sorry—one sec. Just saw Aimee's comments on 653. | 00:33 |
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| aimeeu | thinrichs: I answered my own question | 00:34 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: no ..It's not required for subscribers patch | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: ok. So that's ready to go in? | 00:34 |
| aimeeu | yes absolutely | 00:34 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs ..but osc plugin failure is not related to the patch right | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: I was just guessing that osc failure has to do with what Tim said about adding command to osc dir. Maybe not. | 00:36 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: no , but will check again | 00:37 |
| ekcs | ok. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | so on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416777/ , if someone has time to take a look I’d love to get that merged in order to maximize the testing on it. | 00:38 |
| ekcs | but since it’s not a new feature, it technically could wait till after O3 release. | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: ok sorry I’m a little slow on this. | 00:41 |
| ekcs | nvm let’s move on I’ll catch up on it (the client patch) after. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | any other thoughts about the patches before we move on? | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | #topic Ocata-3 outstanding/new bugs | 00:43 |
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| ekcs | ok does anyone have new/outstanding bugs we should look at ? | 00:45 |
| ekcs | either to be fixed by ocata-3 or shortly after. probably good to triage the bugs before ocata-3 to understand if they are fixable once restrictions kick in post O3. | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | Nothing from me | 00:47 |
| ekcs | #link here’s the current bugs list with “new” on top. haha kind of annoying that tasks are mixed in with actual bugs. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bugs?orderby=status&start=0 | 00:48 |
| ekcs | I’ve encountered a couple new bugs, but nothing that seems to be deep, hard-to-fix things. mostly on the periphery like DSD interfaces. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | so i’m adding them as I see them. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: I noticed the same bug you registered back in september. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1626821 | 00:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1626821 in congress "swift driver fails with authorization issue while polling" [Undecided,Invalid] | 00:51 |
| ekcs | any idea why it shows up only on infra dsvm test but not locally? | 00:51 |
| ekcs | Trying to figure out if we need to dig into it or it doesn’t matter. | 00:52 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: ya ..I remember debugging it before ..But it works all fine in local environment .. | 00:53 |
| ramineni_ | And on gate too it's temporary | 00:53 |
| ekcs | anyway we have 8 minutes left. let’s go to open discussion. where we can still continue discussing bugs. | 00:53 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:53 |
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| ramineni_ | Did u see the error in local environment too? | 00:53 |
| ekcs | but feel free to throw out anything else. | 00:53 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: no I didn’t see it locally either. I haven’t tested locally on xenial tho. thinking I should probably do that. cuz it could be a trusty vs xenial thing. | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: do you test on trusty or xenial? | 00:54 |
| ramineni_ | Trusty | 00:54 |
| ramineni_ | I think gate also on trusty at that time | 00:55 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: hmm ok. well I guess we should test on xenial anyway so we’ll see what happens. | 00:55 |
| ramineni_ | Ok | 00:56 |
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| ekcs | ok well thanks all! have a good week and let’s have a great Ocata-3 release! | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 00:59 |
| masahito | Thanks all | 00:59 |
| ekcs | see you all later! | 00:59 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 19 01:00:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-01-19-00.01.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-01-19-00.01.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-01-19-00.01.log.html | 01:00 |
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| ianychoi | hi | 13:00 |
| jftalta | hi | 13:01 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, oh! :) | 13:02 |
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| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 19 13:03:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:03 |
| ianychoi | It seems that there are also only two.. | 13:03 |
| adiantum | hi | 13:04 |
| jftalta | hi | 13:04 |
| jftalta | the third has come :) | 13:04 |
| ianychoi | adiantum, hi! | 13:04 |
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| ianychoi | i haven't updated today topics but i will start ...! | 13:05 |
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| ianychoi | #topic extra ATCs | 13:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "extra ATCs (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:05 | |
| ianychoi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18nTeam/ATC_statistics | 13:06 |
| ianychoi | I have written all the stats for ATCs | 13:06 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, and i am really sorry for your ATC stats. After summarizing the wiki content I got to know that review stats are included | 13:07 |
| ianychoi | But i will keep it as my record :) | 13:08 |
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| jftalta | ok | 13:08 |
| ianychoi | Also thanks to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386565/ I have updated all current member list | 13:09 |
| ianychoi | although the tool may not be compatible with future Zanata | 13:09 |
| ianychoi | #topic Pkie PTG | 13:10 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg | 13:11 |
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| ianychoi | There is Docs / I18n room! | 13:11 |
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| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/docs-i18n-ptg-pike | 13:12 |
| adiantum | ianychoi: yep | 13:12 |
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| jftalta | a good thing,really | 13:12 |
| ianychoi | Docs team organizers and me are discussing some a kind of conference online calls during PTG | 13:12 |
| ianychoi | If finalized I will share to you | 13:13 |
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| adiantum | ianychoi: sounds great | 13:13 |
| jftalta | As it happened in Barcelona ? | 13:13 |
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| ianychoi | adiantum, jftalta thanks I hope to see you through online :) | 13:13 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, yep but much more online dedicated... I think :) | 13:14 |
| zloykaban | Hi team! hope find you in good spirits =) | 13:14 |
| ianychoi | On Barcelona it seemed that we focused mainly offline :) | 13:14 |
| adiantum | zloykaban: hi | 13:14 |
| jftalta | it depends of the schedule. We have to deal with time lag | 13:14 |
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| jftalta | But I'll do my best to be with you | 13:15 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, yep same as Docs team :) | 13:15 |
| ianychoi | zloykaban, hi :) | 13:15 |
| jftalta | hi zloykaban | 13:15 |
| ianychoi | #topic Zanata upgrade | 13:15 |
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| nssven | Hi team! | 13:16 |
| ianychoi | Many infra and Zanata dev team members are helping a lot | 13:16 |
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| jftalta | nssven hi | 13:16 |
| adiantum | nssven: hi | 13:16 |
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| ianychoi | nssven, hi ! Are u a translator? | 13:16 |
| nssven | yes | 13:16 |
| ianychoi | zloykaban, are u also a translator? :) | 13:16 |
| nssven | ru team | 13:16 |
| ianychoi | Wow may i ask which country? | 13:16 |
| zloykaban | same witn <nssven> | 13:17 |
| zloykaban | *with | 13:17 |
| nssven | Russia | 13:17 |
| ianychoi | aha adiantum 's friend wow + zloykaban nice to see you both! | 13:17 |
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| adiantum | ianychoi: yep, today we all here =) | 13:17 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2017-January/005075.html | 13:18 |
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| ianychoi | We will upgrade to 3.9.6 on translate-dev first | 13:19 |
| ianychoi | But not sure to translate production right after | 13:19 |
| ianychoi | since StringFreeze periods are coming.. | 13:20 |
| ianychoi | - which will be the next topic | 13:20 |
| adiantum | ianychoi: yes, you're right. | 13:20 |
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| adiantum | ianychoi: better to upgrade after release, and at least we can test it all this time | 13:21 |
| ianychoi | adiantum, yep I agree with u | 13:21 |
| jftalta | +1 | 13:21 |
| ianychoi | #topic StringFreezes | 13:21 |
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| amotoki | hi, I just noticed the meeting is running :) | 13:22 |
| ianychoi | amotoki hi! | 13:22 |
| adiantum | amotoki: hi! | 13:22 |
| jftalta | Hi, amotoki | 13:22 |
| ianychoi | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 13:22 |
| zloykaban | amotoki, Hi ! | 13:22 |
| ianychoi | I wanna ask: are u translating Horizon now ? | 13:22 |
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| ianychoi | Last week I started to encourage Korean translators to contribute Horizon translation with ujuc - Korean coordinator | 13:24 |
| jftalta | Fr team is not | 13:24 |
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| jftalta | It's too early | 13:24 |
| adiantum | yep, too early to translate horizon | 13:24 |
| ianychoi | hmm.. But there are only 10 days left... | 13:24 |
| jftalta | Hard string freeze is scheduled at the very end of january | 13:24 |
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| ianychoi | From my understanding we need to finish Horizon translation by the end of Jan - Hard StringFreeze | 13:25 |
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| ianychoi | We might have so less time, but I think it is time to encourage translators to start Horizon translation. | 13:26 |
| jftalta | ianychoi : between today and hard string freeze, there can be many strings changes | 13:27 |
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| jftalta | and strings changes can break translations | 13:27 |
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| zloykaban | +1 to <jftalta> | 13:27 |
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| adiantum | yep, the reason of hard string freeze is "to give translator time to finish up their efforts" | 13:28 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, How do you think about it? Will there be lots of string changes from now to Soft StringFreeze? | 13:28 |
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| adiantum | but i looked at changes in horizon, and may be ianychoi is right, there is a lot of changes | 13:29 |
| amotoki | from my experience there is no big string changes after Soft StringFreeze. | 13:29 |
| jftalta | ianychoi : imho, it might. but it's not easy to predict | 13:29 |
| amotoki | What we had in the past is that horizon merged some new blueprints after the feature freeze | 13:30 |
| amotoki | and | 13:30 |
| amotoki | it introduced a number of NEW strings (around 100~200 strings) | 13:30 |
| amotoki | I don't think we had many CHANGES after the soft string freeze | 13:30 |
| jftalta | amotoki : and what about string updates ? | 13:31 |
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| zloykaban | new strings shouldn`t be a big deal, but string changes are ... | 13:32 |
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| jftalta | yes ! | 13:32 |
| amotoki | i think most string changes were made by me as translation feedback | 13:32 |
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| ianychoi | Hmm.. | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | Now I am asking with horizon team | 13:33 |
| jftalta | With Zanata, how can I know if a string has been changed ? | 13:33 |
| amotoki | dead loop :-( ..... | 13:33 |
| amotoki | IMHO string changes (except new strings) can easily coped with translation team and it does not matter. thought? | 13:34 |
| amotoki | jftalta: when a string has been changed, we see a new string. If you visit the string, you will see a similar string (with 80-90% similarity) in the translation memory (suggestions). | 13:35 |
| jftalta | ok, thx :) | 13:36 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell from Horizon team said that Feature Freezing has been finished | 13:37 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: yes, horizon team enables feature freeze this week. | 13:38 |
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| ianychoi | IMO there will be some string changes but starting from now is a good idea.. | 13:38 |
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| ianychoi | 1 week is so short.... | 13:39 |
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| robcresswell | o/ | 13:39 |
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| ianychoi | adiantum, translating wihin 1 week is sufficient with ru team? | 13:39 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, hello! | 13:40 |
| jftalta | Hi, robcresswell | 13:40 |
| ianychoi | Wow two Horizon team members - robcresswell and amotoki :) | 13:40 |
| amotoki | at least from my experience in mitaka and newton, we did not have so many string changes. | 13:40 |
| amotoki | in case of JP team, we started *reviews* after hard stringfreeze | 13:41 |
| adiantum | ianychoi: looks like we have 10 days until RC, but i agree - start now is good idea | 13:41 |
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| adiantum | robcresswell: hi! | 13:41 |
| ianychoi | And I think Horizon will be packaged around the end of Jan | 13:41 |
| nssven | <adiantum> agree | 13:41 |
| robcresswell | FYI, translations dont have to hit RC1 | 13:41 |
| robcresswell | We usually have an RC2 just to allow more translation time. | 13:42 |
| robcresswell | Final RC date is Feb 16, with release at 23rd. | 13:42 |
| adiantum | robcresswell: good practice, thank you =) | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, oh thanks! | 13:42 |
| robcresswell | So there is no need to finish it all in one week :) | 13:42 |
| jftalta | So, we've got almost 3 weeks, starting from today | 13:42 |
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| adiantum | robcresswell: sounds perfect :-) | 13:43 |
| robcresswell | I've done a little of the British English l10n before just to teach myself, so I'm quite familiar with the tooling. | 13:43 |
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| amotoki | yes, that's the practice we learned from the past experiences. | 13:43 |
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| ianychoi | But maybe there are also Horizon-related projects | 13:43 |
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| jftalta | you mea new dashboards ? | 13:43 |
| jftalta | *mean* | 13:44 |
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| amotoki | he means horizon plugins | 13:44 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:44 |
| robcresswell | There are the other dashboards to consider, but they should ideally follow Horizon policies. It is trivial to tag a new RC with translations. | 13:44 |
| ianychoi | amotoki is a I18n-Horizon liaison :) But for others I think I might need to start communications | 13:44 |
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| robcresswell | So it is not a big thing to ask of other projects to extend their final translation dates. | 13:45 |
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| ianychoi | robcresswell, thanks :) | 13:45 |
| archies | @mriedem, nova core, sorry for interrupting in between. Wanted to check your views on the https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1636489 | 13:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1636489 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume attachment fails for all the available instances after running different volume operations for 1-2 hours or more." [Undecided,New] | 13:45 |
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| amotoki | archies: wrong channel? this is #-meeting channel | 13:46 |
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| archies | thanks amotoki, pls can you help identify correct channel | 13:46 |
| archies | I was too wasn't much sure about it | 13:46 |
| amotoki | archies: #openstakc-nova? | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | Then adiantum could you share Freezing dates then? Let's consider to start your String | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | Freezing Manager role | 13:47 |
| amotoki | archies: #openstack-nova? | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | :) | 13:47 |
| adiantum | ianychoi: let me to prepare message and i would like you to check it | 13:48 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: what we should do is to share our policies which applies to horizon with horizon plugin PTLs and teams. | 13:48 |
| adiantum | ianychoi: what do you think? | 13:48 |
| ianychoi | adiantum, +1 I will do it :) | 13:48 |
| archies | thanks amotoki, got confused with the site content provided on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova. | 13:48 |
| adiantum | ianychoi: great :-) | 13:48 |
| amotoki | archies: np | 13:49 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, good idea. | 13:49 |
| adiantum | amotoki: +1 | 13:49 |
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| ianychoi | amotoki, may be the ratio of string changes? | 13:49 |
| jftalta | amotoki: +1 | 13:49 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: no. | 13:50 |
| robcresswell | Another thing worth mentioning, if there are new Horizon bugs found during translation please tag them appropriately ('i18n' tag) and ping one of the cores (probably me or amotoki) | 13:50 |
| amotoki | what I am talking is the deadline and RC2. | 13:50 |
| ianychoi | I will add this topic in PTG with Horizon - then.. could u say some examples? | 13:50 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: examples? | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, thanks for mentioning :) | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | our policies which applies to horizon -> maybe translation priority? | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | Aha deadline and RC2 | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, sorry and thanks :) | 13:53 |
| Sudha | "/JOIN #openstack-nova | 13:53 |
| amotoki | our basic policy on translation import deadline is around RC2 (or later RC if exist) and horizon plugin teams are suggested to follow this schedule. | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, yep I fot your points | 13:54 |
| robcresswell | Yeah, no need to restrict yourself to RC1. | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | #topic open discussion | 13:54 |
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| ianychoi | Okay:) | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | Any more things to be discussed? | 13:55 |
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| jftalta | not for me | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | zloykaban, is it your 1st coming with nssven here? | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, and congrats for better French landing page | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | :) | 13:56 |
| nssven | not first time:) I kept silence before | 13:56 |
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| zloykaban | Yes, <ianychoi> | 13:57 |
| jftalta | ianychoi: thanks ! | 13:57 |
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| jftalta | and thank for helping | 13:58 |
| jftalta | *thanks* | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, just from stats Japanese team finished document translations. For landing page changes may be Kato-san will take care of it? | 13:58 |
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| amotoki | ianychoi: perhaps so | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | adiantum, also I hope to see Russian landing page soon with finishing one document translation - with nssven and zloykaban :) | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, ok I will ask katomo the | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | then | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | We need to finish today meeting | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Thanks a lot all!! | 13:59 |
| amotoki | i can do it. either of us who notices usually updates the landing page. | 13:59 |
| zloykaban | Thank you ! see you next time | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | okay:) | 14:00 |
| jftalta | thanks and goodbye all ! | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 19 14:00:30 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-01-19-13.03.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-01-19-13.03.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-01-19-13.03.log.html | 14:00 |
| adiantum | ianychoi: thanks | 14:00 |
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| robcresswell | thanks ianychoi | 14:00 |
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| oomichi_ | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 19 17:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oomichi_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| oomichi_ | hi who can join the meeting today? | 17:00 |
| DavidPurcell | hello o/ | 17:01 |
| blancos | o/ | 17:01 |
| jhakimra | o/ | 17:01 |
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| oomichi_ | mtreinish: andreaf: ping | 17:02 |
| andreaf | o/ | 17:02 |
| oomichi_ | ok, lets get start | 17:02 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 17:02 |
| oomichi_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_January_19th_2017_.281700_UTC.29 is today agenda | 17:02 |
| oomichi_ | #topic PTG | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:03 | |
| oomichi_ | we are gathering ideas for PTG on #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-ptg-pike | 17:03 |
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| oomichi_ | we have 2 full days for qa project | 17:04 |
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| oomichi_ | and I think we can allocate more ideas for days | 17:04 |
| oomichi_ | it would be nice to put more ideas on that :) | 17:04 |
| oomichi_ | btw someone know who wrote "Discussion of Test Runners" ? | 17:05 |
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| oomichi_ | we need to assign owner for each slot and the above is empty now | 17:05 |
| andreaf | +1 | 17:05 |
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| andreaf | I don't know but if no-one claims the ownership and we don | 17:05 |
| andreaf | we don | 17:05 |
| andreaf | can't type... | 17:06 |
| oomichi_ | ok, I will ask it again on the other way | 17:06 |
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| oomichi_ | do we have more topics about PTG today? | 17:06 |
| andreaf | and in case we don't have a real need to discuss it we can skip the idea | 17:06 |
| oomichi_ | andreaf: yeah, I agree. and we can spend remaining time for code sprint | 17:06 |
| oomichi_ | that would be also productive, and I prefer :) | 17:07 |
| oomichi_ | ok, lets move on | 17:07 |
| andreaf | oomichi_: do we want to have standard sessions like "devstack and grenade" | 17:07 |
| andreaf | or "priorities for pike" | 17:08 |
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| andreaf | as we used to have those discussions at the design summit | 17:08 |
| oomichi_ | andreaf: humm, nice ideas | 17:08 |
| andreaf | I will add those | 17:08 |
| andreaf | at least it's good to have the topic there, if there's not much to be said we can close it quickly | 17:09 |
| oomichi_ | andreaf: I wrote them on etherpad now as note, and we can arrange them later | 17:09 |
| andreaf | thanks | 17:09 |
| oomichi_ | yeah, o-h also is nice topic | 17:10 |
| oomichi_ | DavidPurcell: how about policy testing ? | 17:10 |
| oomichi_ | don't we need to discuss the direction of patrole on PTG? | 17:10 |
| DavidPurcell | oomichi_ Going well. Framework added and we're starting to push up tests. | 17:10 |
| DavidPurcell | We definitely could add it to the PTG discussions. | 17:11 |
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| oomichi_ | DavidPurcell: cool, can you write your idea down on the etherpad? | 17:11 |
| DavidPurcell | sure. | 17:11 |
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| oomichi_ | DavidPurcell: thanks :) | 17:11 |
| oomichi_ | OK, lets move on | 17:12 |
| oomichi_ | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:12 |
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| oomichi_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:12 |
| oomichi_ | oh, new spec is comming* #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422170/ | 17:13 |
| oomichi_ | do we have topics about specs today? | 17:13 |
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| oomichi_ | ok, lets move on | 17:14 |
| oomichi_ | #topic Tempest | 17:15 |
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| oomichi_ | this week, dmellado was bug triager | 17:15 |
| oomichi_ | bug triage itself seems on good progress | 17:16 |
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| oomichi_ | #link https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph shows bug number progress | 17:16 |
| oomichi_ | the number still continues decreasing | 17:16 |
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| andreaf | yay! | 17:17 |
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| oomichi_ | the next assignee is chandankumar, I am happy to see the progress next week :) | 17:17 |
| oomichi_ | Do we have more topics about Tempest? | 17:18 |
| andreaf | yeah | 17:18 |
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| andreaf | the -ssh job is now voting on Tempest | 17:18 |
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| oomichi_ | andreaf: yeah, thanks for making it on | 17:18 |
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| andreaf | the periodic job is running fine but we had a few failures on chack / gate (3 on check and 1 on gate) | 17:19 |
| andreaf | related to AttachVolumeShelveTestJSON.test_attach_detach_volume | 17:19 |
| oomichi_ | the gate still seems stable now | 17:19 |
| andreaf | it may be that this is picking up race condition with shelve / unshelve and floating IPs | 17:19 |
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| andreaf | I'll keep an eye on it, it's not severe enough for now to do anything | 17:19 |
| oomichi_ | andreaf: do we have LP report for them? | 17:19 |
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| andreaf | not yet, I was still looking at the issue | 17:20 |
| andreaf | trying to make a decent lp report :) | 17:20 |
| clarkb | also logstash/elasticsearch/elastic-recheck are mostly all working well right now. So if can get the classification rate up we should have a very good view into what is and isn't working | 17:20 |
| clarkb | (right now it is at 43% which seems low) | 17:20 |
| andreaf | clarkb: sure, that was going to be my next step after the bug | 17:21 |
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| oomichi_ | andreaf: cool, thanks for that | 17:22 |
| oomichi_ | I dont have difficult patches to be reviewed now, so can we move on? | 17:22 |
| oomichi_ | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DevStack + Grenade (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:23 | |
| oomichi_ | do we have more topics about DevStack + Grenade today? | 17:23 |
| andreaf | I don't know if sdague is around? | 17:24 |
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| andreaf | I think it's worth to mention that there's a new project in the QA program - devstack-tools | 17:24 |
| oomichi_ | andreaf: ah, nice point. That became under QA yesterday | 17:25 |
| andreaf | it's a python port of a number of devstack functions, made by sdague | 17:25 |
| oomichi_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421915/ | 17:25 |
| oomichi_ | the original is #link https://github.com/sdague/devstack-tools | 17:26 |
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| sigmavirus | sdague: nice work :) | 17:26 |
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| oomichi_ | IIUC, that makes devstack(bash) into python as possible | 17:27 |
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| oomichi_ | it was best to introduce it by sdague , but now is not active | 17:28 |
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| oomichi_ | lets move on if not having more discussion *) | 17:29 |
| oomichi_ | #topic openstack-health | 17:29 |
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| oomichi_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open | 17:30 |
| oomichi_ | most patches are under good reviws | 17:30 |
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| oomichi_ | so do we have discussion points today | 17:31 |
| oomichi_ | ok, lets move on | 17:32 |
| oomichi_ | #topic Patrole | 17:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Patrole (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:32 | |
| oomichi_ | I feel DavidPurcell already said its progress ;) | 17:32 |
| DavidPurcell | haha, yes. | 17:33 |
| oomichi_ | DavidPurcell: are there any problem for it today ? | 17:33 |
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| DavidPurcell | Nothing huge. We are mostly still migrating the AT&T code we wrote internally. | 17:33 |
| DavidPurcell | Some extra eyes on the reviews would be nice :) | 17:34 |
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| oomichi_ | DavidPurcell: oh, that is awesome. I wondered how to produce the code so quickly. I know the answer now :) | 17:34 |
| oomichi_ | yeah, it is nice to get more eyes | 17:34 |
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| dmellado | yep DavidPurcell, I'll have a look at the open reviews at the repo whenever I get the chance ;) | 17:34 |
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| DavidPurcell | oomichi_: Haha, yes. We're good, but not that good ;) | 17:35 |
| * dmellado tries to get over a dreaded cold xD | 17:35 | |
| oomichi_ | haha, | 17:36 |
| DavidPurcell | But unless there are any questions, I don't have anything else for Patrole. | 17:36 |
| andreaf | DavidPurcell: I haven't checked Patrole yet - do you have some CI in place already? | 17:36 |
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| DavidPurcell | andreaf: There are some unit tests | 17:37 |
| andreaf | great :) | 17:37 |
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| oomichi_ | Patrole seems good progress. OK, lets move on | 17:38 |
| oomichi_ | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:39 |
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| oomichi_ | do we have patches which are necessary to be reviewed soon today? | 17:39 |
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| oomichi_ | oh, nobody have. That is good :) | 17:40 |
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| oomichi_ | #topic Voting permission for IBM PowerKVM CI on devstack (mmedvede) | 17:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Voting permission for IBM PowerKVM CI on devstack (mmedvede) (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:40 | |
| mmedvede | hi qa | 17:41 |
| oomichi_ | mmedvede: can you metion here ? | 17:41 |
| oomichi_ | mmedvede: please go ahead :) | 17:41 |
| mmedvede | I wanted to follow up from the last meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-01-05-17.00.log.html | 17:41 |
| dmellado | mmedvede: could you pls summarize? | 17:41 |
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| oomichi_ | IIUC, the IBM CI is voting on nova. and this is trying to make it voting on Tempest | 17:43 |
| mmedvede | from that last meeting, and discussion in qa channel, It seemed like there were no big objections to enabling voting for IBM PowerKVM CI | 17:43 |
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| dmellado | can't we make it non-voting first? | 17:43 |
| mmedvede | oomichi_: almost, voting on devstack | 17:43 |
| mmedvede | not voting on tempest | 17:43 |
| oomichi_ | mmedvede: oh, sorry. And devstack one is stable now, right? | 17:44 |
| mmedvede | dmellado: it is currently non-voting on devstack: http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=devstack&time=7+days | 17:44 |
| dmellado | oh, on devstack *not tempest* | 17:44 |
| mmedvede | oomichi_: correct, it is stable on devstack patches | 17:44 |
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| oomichi_ | mmedvede: oh, that seems to become more stable than I checked before | 17:45 |
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| dmellado | oomichi_: quoting you here "if that would be voting and give -1 on unrelated patches, that makes the review process slow" | 17:45 |
| oomichi_ | I dont have objections against the voting | 17:45 |
| mmedvede | as you mention it, we do check tempest patches too, so I do not mind making it report on tempest as well :) but one thing at a time | 17:45 |
| dmellado | but if it's stable enough, worst case it'd be just a '-1' | 17:46 |
| oomichi_ | dmellado: yeah, that is a point :) | 17:46 |
| mmedvede | yes, concern was that -1 might make people less likely to review. But it would not block a patch from merging | 17:46 |
| * dmellado tends to fear third-party results in neutron... | 17:46 | |
| oomichi_ | dmellado: haha, it is | 17:47 |
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| oomichi_ | ok, if there is not objection here, I will make it voting | 17:47 |
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| oomichi_ | Even after voting and facing issue, it is easy to make it non-voting again | 17:48 |
| mmedvede | true :) | 17:48 |
| mmedvede | so we would do our best so you would not have to | 17:49 |
| oomichi_ | #action oomichi makes IBM PowerKVM CI voting | 17:49 |
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| mmedvede | \o/ | 17:50 |
| oomichi_ | ok, lets move on | 17:50 |
| oomichi_ | #topic Open Discussion | 17:50 |
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| oomichi_ | do we have more topics today ? | 17:50 |
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| dmellado | I guess you already covered the PTG topics, didn't you? | 17:51 |
| oomichi_ | dmellado: yeah, that was the first topic today :) | 17:51 |
| dmellado | then I'll check the history later ;) | 17:51 |
| luzC | I'll take a look at PTG topics also... | 17:51 |
| oomichi_ | dmellado: we are gathering ideas on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-ptg-pike | 17:51 |
| oomichi_ | you have already put yours on that :) | 17:52 |
| dmellado | oomichi_: yeah, I put it there to revisit the plugin stuff | 17:52 |
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| luzC | oomichi_ quick question can I add grenade items on it or should I take that conversation out? | 17:52 |
| oomichi_ | luzC: grenade topic for PTG is welcome :) please write it down on the etherpad | 17:53 |
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| luzC | oomichi_ ok, I will thanks | 17:53 |
| dmellado | luzC: if you can get it stable I'll get you some beers ( + help on the PTG ) xD | 17:53 |
| oomichi_ | luzC: happy to hear that | 17:53 |
| luzC | hahaha | 17:54 |
| luzC | +1 :) | 17:54 |
| oomichi_ | cool :) | 17:55 |
| oomichi_ | do we have more topics today ? | 17:55 |
| oomichi_ | thanks all :) | 17:56 |
| oomichi_ | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 19 17:56:06 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-01-19-17.00.html | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-01-19-17.00.txt | 17:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-01-19-17.00.log.html | 17:56 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 19 21:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| mriedem | oh hello | 21:00 |
| diana_clarke | o/ | 21:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| dtp | \o | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| jroll | \o | 21:00 |
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| efried | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | well let's get started | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 21:01 |
| comstud | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | heh | 21:01 |
| jroll | O_O | 21:01 |
| comstud | for trolling purposes only | 21:01 |
| tdurakov | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | dude you've been doing the drunken drive by the ex late at night thing all week | 21:02 |
| comstud | what's 1 more time | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info Jan 19: final non-client library release (oslo, os-brick, os-win, os-vif) | 21:02 |
| mriedem | so today | 21:02 |
| mriedem | i assume harlowja got the oslo.serialization release reques tout | 21:02 |
| mriedem | *request out | 21:02 |
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| harlowja | mriedem yuppers | 21:02 |
| harlowja | thx | 21:02 |
| mriedem | that was the only other thing we were waiting on | 21:02 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info Jan 26: o-3 milestone, final python-novaclient release, FeatureFreeze, Soft StringFreeze | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so 1 week from today is feature freeze | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #link Ocata blueprints https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/ocata | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #info 68 total blueprints, 26 implemented, 37 need code review | 21:03 |
| mriedem | there are a few bp-related changes approved but blocked from merging due to the mox3 breaker | 21:04 |
| mriedem | which itself is in the gate queue https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422709/ | 21:04 |
| mriedem | so after that merges i'll be doing some rechecking | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | #link Details on remaining blueprints: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ocata-feature-freeze | 21:04 |
| mriedem | any questions on the release? | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i don't plan on doing FFEs except maybe for things that are super low risk and are already basically approved but just missed the deadline | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | for things that haven't had solid review by the time FF rolls around we don't have the runway to make exceptions | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | the only critical bug is that mox3 thing above, which is working its way through | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | not much else for bugs, | 21:06 |
| mriedem | i did notice the new bug numbers were creeping up again | 21:07 |
| mriedem | some easy triage in there | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic Reminders | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| mriedem | #link Ocata review priorities https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | #info Deadline for submitting talks at the Pike summit is February 6th: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ | 21:07 |
| mriedem | dansmith is submitting a talk for cells v2 | 21:07 |
| mriedem | and i believe jaypipes is going to submit a talk for placement | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
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| mriedem | we have quite a few pending reviews for stable/newton, including a series of changes to fix some placement bugs | 21:08 |
| mriedem | will probably target a newton release next week, around o-3 | 21:09 |
| mriedem | well, i'm on vacation next week so maybe the week after | 21:09 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:09 | |
| mriedem | there wasn't a cells v2 meeting this week since dansmith is on vacation, but there are notes in the cells v2 wiki here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova-Cells-v2 | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | for current known issues/bugs/todos/open questions | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler subteam stuff? | 21:10 |
| edleafe | I was on PTO, so cdent ran the meeting | 21:10 |
| edleafe | He's on PTO today, so I'm summarizing from the log | 21:10 |
| edleafe | The ProviderTree patch from jaypipes got some discussion | 21:10 |
| edleafe | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415920 | 21:10 |
| edleafe | Still lots to digest there | 21:10 |
| edleafe | They also discussed the need for the 'can_host' field: whether it is needed long-term, or is it a short-term hack to deal with shared resources. | 21:10 |
| edleafe | No resolution at the meeting, so more in store for discussion next week | 21:10 |
| edleafe | That's about it | 21:10 |
| mriedem | we had a hangout on monday about the can_host thing and i think cdent and jaypipes came to some conclusion there which should be back in the ML | 21:11 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: live migration subteam highlights? | 21:11 |
| tdurakov | yes | 21:11 |
| tdurakov | update from the live-migration subteam: | 21:12 |
| tdurakov | - serial console hook for l-m job require core review/merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347471/ | 21:12 |
| tdurakov | - vnc console ci coverage: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421207/2 | 21:12 |
| tdurakov | - nova cores to review the chain: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409260/11 | 21:12 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: could you please check again the first one | 21:12 |
| tdurakov | markus_z answered to your comment, so is it ok to merge? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | yeah i need to read markus_z's reply in there | 21:12 |
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| tdurakov | thanks in advance | 21:12 |
| mriedem | sdague: alex_xu: api subteam highlights? | 21:13 |
| mriedem | i think the top priority is still working on the server filter/sort whitelist patches | 21:13 |
| mriedem | i'm not seeing anyone around from the sriov/pci subteam to report | 21:14 |
| mriedem | notifications subteam, highlights from gibi: | 21:14 |
| mriedem | 1. There is a lot of commit waiting for core review. The priority etherpad is up to date. | 21:14 |
| mriedem | 2. There is a bug fix that would be really nice to have in Ocata https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415857/ but it might need further discussion. ML thread: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110498.html | 21:14 |
| mriedem | ^ which is about having lazy-loaded fields in notifications | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | ok moving on | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #topic PTG Planning | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | #link Pike PTG planning: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ptg-pike | 21:15 |
| mriedem | which reminds me that i need to buy my ticket | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | the etherpad is filling up with topics though, some of it is stuff rolling over from ocata | 21:16 |
| mriedem | questions about the PTG? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda so does anyone have anything they need to bring up here? | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | does anyone have anything for open discussion? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | comstud maybe? | 21:17 |
| efried | PowerVM driver integration update | 21:17 |
| mriedem | efried: go ahead | 21:17 |
| efried | bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/powervm-nova-compute-driver | 21:17 |
| efried | Change sets on gerrit: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/powervm-nova-compute-driver) | 21:17 |
| efried | CI work is ongoing to split into two environments - the new one with a (small, to start) whitelist for in-tree change sets. | 21:17 |
| efried | Other than CI, three of the above change sets are ready for core review: | 21:17 |
| efried | spawn/delete: https://review.openstack.org/391288 | 21:17 |
| efried | localdisk driver: https://review.openstack.org/409401 | 21:17 |
| efried | VNC console: https://review.openstack.org/409402 | 21:17 |
| efried | The other three change sets are still WIP. More will be coming down the pipe in relatively short order. | 21:18 |
| efried | We recognize that the majority of our in-tree work is going to be deferred past ocata. Is there any special process we'll need to go through once the ocata release branch is tagged? | 21:18 |
| mriedem | efried: on the bottom change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391288/ i see that the powervm ci is still failing | 21:18 |
| mriedem | efried: no we'll just defer to pike and resume there | 21:18 |
| efried | mriedem: yes, see above - we're still working on getting our CI split out. | 21:18 |
| tdurakov | efried: are there any plans for multinode? | 21:19 |
| efried | We've got a (big, blacklist-oriented) setup for the OOT driver. | 21:19 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: their driver isn't supporting migration in-tree yet | 21:19 |
| efried | We're still working on splitting it up to get the in-tree (whitelist-oriented) one going. | 21:19 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: baby steps :) | 21:19 |
| efried | Yeah, that'll be coming "later". | 21:19 |
| tdurakov | acked | 21:20 |
| mriedem | efried: any outlook on when the in-tree ci will be passing on that bottom change? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | like EOW, early next week? | 21:20 |
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| efried | Hoping next week some time, but don't have a firm handle on it yet. | 21:20 |
| mriedem | before i review 2K LOC i'd like to see that passing :) | 21:20 |
| mriedem | ok, keep thursday in mind | 21:20 |
| efried | Where's the trust? | 21:20 |
| mriedem | i don't trust anyone | 21:21 |
| efried | And that's why you're still alive. | 21:21 |
| mriedem | heh | 21:21 |
| mriedem | ok thanks for the update | 21:21 |
| mriedem | anyone else have anything for open discussion? | 21:21 |
| comstud | mriedem: i got nothing | 21:21 |
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| comstud | sorry. | 21:21 |
| mriedem | comstud: super | 21:21 |
| mriedem | keep up the good work | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | alright, let's end it, thanks everyone | 21:21 |
| comstud | A+ | 21:21 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 19 21:21:52 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-01-19-21.00.html | 21:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-01-19-21.00.txt | 21:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-01-19-21.00.log.html | 21:21 |
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| kevinbenton | o/ | 22:00 |
| ihrachys | \o | 22:01 |
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| amotoki | o/ | 22:01 |
| armax | yello | 22:02 |
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| armax | any other in the room? | 22:02 |
| trevormc | hey guys | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | o\//\ | 22:02 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 19 22:02:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | #agreed | 22:02 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 22:02 |
| armax | #chair kevinbenton | 22:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: armax kevinbenton | 22:02 |
| armax | kevinbenton: since you’re so keen to use the # | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | #dechair kevinbenton | 22:03 |
| armax | kevinbenton: sush | 22:03 |
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| armax | *shush | 22:03 |
| armax | ok | 22:04 |
| armax | let’s jump in | 22:04 |
| armax | we have a few specs open | 22:04 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-specs,n,z | 22:04 |
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| armax | of the ones with +2, only https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351675/ seems ready to land | 22:05 |
| armax | the others have some negative feedback | 22:05 |
| armax | are we ok with the port dataplane status extension? | 22:05 |
| amotoki | I am okay with this. | 22:05 |
| armax | ihrachys: you expressed your mild entushiasm | 22:06 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: what about you? | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | armax: +2 | 22:06 |
| armax | omg | 22:06 |
| armax | ok | 22:07 |
| armax | I’ll nudge it in after the meeting | 22:07 |
| armax | before jumping into the list of triaged RFEs | 22:07 |
| armax | is there anything more pressing to discuss? | 22:07 |
| armax | Ocata-wise? | 22:07 |
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| armax | no? | 22:08 |
| ihrachys | no | 22:08 |
| amotoki | no | 22:09 |
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| armax | ok | 22:09 |
| kevinbenton | NO | 22:09 |
| armax | do you guys realize that this is my second to last time I ran the drivers meeting? | 22:09 |
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| armax | or maybe third to last | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | armax: we can give you honor runs in the future | 22:10 |
| kevinbenton | what about when you run for PTL for the Q cycle? | 22:10 |
| armax | ihrachys: it’s a privilege I kindly decline | 22:10 |
| armax | thanks though | 22:10 |
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| armax | ok let’s continue | 22:11 |
| armax | I have these list in front of me | 22:12 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:12 |
| armax | bug #1525824 | 22:13 |
| openstack | bug 1525824 in neutron "[RFE] Add a 'promiscuous mode' extension for ports" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1525824 | 22:13 |
| armax | any thoughts on this one? | 22:14 |
| armax | I think it could be a nice addition to the ability of neutron to serve NFV workloads | 22:14 |
| ihrachys | I am not sure I grasp... which switch does flood the VM port? | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | i'm confused about this | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | do they want promiscuous traffic? | 22:15 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: that’s my understanding | 22:15 |
| ihrachys | oh | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | but the description says they don't want it to improve performance | 22:16 |
| armax | hang on | 22:16 |
| armax | they mentioned about mac learning, which is this feature that the nsx plugin provides | 22:16 |
| amotoki | I haven't grasped this.... nsx plugin maclearning extension is also mentioned. what does maclearnig ext do? | 22:17 |
| ihrachys | maybe they mean that backends don't want to implement it globally for all ports, but just for those that users picked. | 22:17 |
| armax | it’s like you want your VM’s to receive traffic for difference destination MACs | 22:17 |
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| amotoki | so, do we want to set vnic to promiscous mode selectively? it sounds reasonable | 22:19 |
| ihrachys | I think it makes sense, but description would need some love. and I believe a write-up of how it's gonna be managed in ovs bridge would also help. | 22:19 |
| armax | amotoki: that’s what I understand | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | yeah, i suppose promiscuous would be default then | 22:19 |
| armax | ihrachys: right, this needs a full blown spec | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | i mean non-promiscuous | 22:20 |
| armax | kevinbenton: right | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: you mean NON-promiscuous | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | ok nevermind :) | 22:20 |
| armax | kevinbenton: NON NON!! | 22:20 |
| armax | kevinbenton: don’t confuse us further | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | non non... double negation gives us... | 22:20 |
| armax | ihrachys: NON. NON | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | yeah, i'm okay with proceeding with this | 22:21 |
| armax | ok | 22:21 |
| armax | then | 22:21 |
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| armax | let’s get to the next stage of spec definition | 22:21 |
| armax | btw | 22:21 |
| armax | I just remember something | 22:21 |
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| armax | for blueprint live-migration-portbinding | 22:22 |
| armax | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/live-migration-portbinding | 22:22 |
| armax | I wonder if I got the approver/assignee right | 22:22 |
| armax | but I suppose I can reach out the folks directly | 22:22 |
| armax | brianstajkowski1: ^ | 22:23 |
| ihrachys | yeah we probably need someone with +2 hammer for that | 22:23 |
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| armax | ihrachys: I don’t like the picture of that | 22:24 |
| armax | ok, moving on | 22:24 |
| armax | bug #1541895 | 22:24 |
| openstack | bug 1541895 in neutron "[RFE] [IPAM] Make IPAM driver a per-subnet pool option" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541895 | 22:24 |
| ihrachys | armax: whack a mole | 22:24 |
| ihrachys | ok, re ipam one, it makes sense, but the question is, who is going to implement it. I haven't seen infoblox folks active lately, and L3 subteam lost some diamonds lately.. | 22:25 |
| armax | ihrachys: yeah | 22:25 |
| armax | that’s what I was thinking | 22:26 |
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| armax | We should involve haleyb as well as mlavalle to see if they have any interest in this one | 22:27 |
| ihrachys | I generally want us to push back for proposals with no clear volunteers. so in this case, I would start with talking to the reporter and l3 subteam on whether they can give resources for that in next cycle. if not, we just postpone/Won't Fix for now. | 22:27 |
| kevinbenton | yeah, i can see the use case but I'm not sure who would implement it | 22:27 |
| armax | agreeed | 22:27 |
| armax | ihrachys: we have marked this Incomplete once | 22:28 |
| armax | we can do it again | 22:28 |
| ihrachys | it's not incomplete, it's just maybe out of scope :) | 22:28 |
| armax | rfe-deferred, then? | 22:28 |
| ihrachys | the use case is clear, the proposal is ok, it just maybe doesn't fit | 22:28 |
| armax | but in reality all RFEs are out of scope if they don’t have volunteers | 22:29 |
| ihrachys | I am honestly lost in all RFE states | 22:29 |
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| amotoki | tend to agree. there seems use cases, but there are several choices on approaches... | 22:29 |
| armax | once we agree that the use case is legit | 22:30 |
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| armax | then it’s a matter of finding a) who is gonna churn the code, and b) who is gonna review the code | 22:30 |
| armax | but to start with we need a proper spec | 22:30 |
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| armax | and that means the balls goes back into belamaric’s court | 22:30 |
| ihrachys | would be cool if we also make it clear that writing a spec without lining up resources won't get the effort much forward | 22:32 |
| armax | ihrachys: true | 22:32 |
| ihrachys | I saw a lot of specs written that don't happen | 22:32 |
| armax | ihrachys: that can happen for all sorts of different reasons | 22:33 |
| ihrachys | yea. I guess we have a path forward here? | 22:33 |
| armax | good and bad | 22:33 |
| armax | I think so | 22:33 |
| armax | same goes with bug 1583694 | 22:34 |
| openstack | bug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1583694 - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan) | 22:34 |
| armax | that also needs a spec so that we can nail down on the way forward | 22:35 |
| armax | but if we lack someone interested in pushing it forward, the use case, even though legit is never gonna go anywhere | 22:35 |
| ihrachys | yes | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | we can revisit this one | 22:37 |
| armax | bug #1592000 | 22:37 |
| openstack | bug 1592000 in neutron "[RFE] Admin customized default security-group" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592000 - Assigned to Roey Chen (roeyc) | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | i may need to solve this for another use case that has come up | 22:37 |
| armax | we’ve gone back and forth about this one | 22:37 |
| armax | even though there’s no-one screaming for this, it looks like nova-net has/had this capability of customizing the default security group | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | armax: let's just do it then :) | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | haha | 22:39 |
| amotoki | :) | 22:39 |
| njohnston | This is something we have definitely thought about having in FWaaS, although it is not there yet it's something I'll be shooting for in Pike. | 22:39 |
| armax | my opionin still stand thoguh | 22:39 |
| armax | though | 22:39 |
| armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1592000/comments/5 | 22:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1592000 in neutron "[RFE] Admin customized default security-group" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Roey Chen (roeyc) | 22:39 |
| ihrachys | njohnston: consider how you are going to handle the compatibility issue expressed in bug comments | 22:39 |
| armax | I am ok with the use case, I only wonder whether this should be FWaaS rather than security group as njohnston also pointed out | 22:40 |
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| armax | I am not convinced this should be crammed into the existing default security group semantic | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287039/1/neutron/db/securitygroups_db.py | 22:40 |
| njohnston | For FWaaS it's a special subset of the shared firewall policy model, that could be opted into by interested operators | 22:41 |
| armax | kevinbenton: I should have -2 it | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | njohnston: but the vms will still have a default security group that doesn't allow anything though, no? | 22:41 |
| armax | that’s an abomination | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | i thought you would like it :) | 22:43 |
| njohnston | kevinbenton: Not necessarily. Let's say an operator creates a shared firewall policy that allows ssh from a special sanctified jumphost but deny/deny for everything else, and that operator makes that the default security group for all new tenants that get made, I could see the use care for thaty | 22:43 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: creating a security group, stopping neutron-server, changing the config file and restarting the neutron-server (and all the replicas)? sure | 22:43 |
| armax | that’s the greatest usability I have ever experienced | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | njohnston: oh, well if the operator is changing the default security group for each tenant | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | njohnston: then that makes sense | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | armax: I wrote that patch before neutron supported multiple servers :P | 22:44 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: that’s only 6 months old | 22:44 |
| armax | don’t lie to me | 22:44 |
| njohnston | this seems like an operator-serving feature more than a consumer of the operator's cloud-serving feature in any event because it happens on tenant creation | 22:44 |
| armax | ok | 22:45 |
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| armax | after what njohnston said, it sounds to me that the way forward with this is to allow it with fwaas | 22:46 |
| armax | I don’t think there’s any appetite to have this done with security groups | 22:46 |
| armax | I certainly don’t have it | 22:46 |
| armax | ihrachys, amotoki, kevinbenton? | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | again, even in context of fwaas, you should think about how you make your api users detect the operator opted in the model | 22:47 |
| armax | ihrachys: agreed | 22:47 |
| amotoki | I am not sure that combination of SG and FWaaS helps the situation... | 22:47 |
| njohnston | ihrachys: agreed | 22:47 |
| armax | but we can make figure that out on a spec | 22:47 |
| ihrachys | armax: I can't see a correct way to make it for security groups, as stated in comments; maybe fwaas is different, but I lack details. | 22:47 |
| amotoki | it seems what the reportor wants is they just want to provide more convenient default rules. | 22:48 |
| armax | amotoki: right, but that has problems | 22:48 |
| amotoki | yes, interoperability issue :( | 22:48 |
| armax | there’s a difference between what a single desires and the benefit for everybody else involved in the community :) | 22:48 |
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| armax | ok | 22:49 |
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| armax | moving on | 22:51 |
| amotoki | even though we keep SG API compatibility, if operators applies FWaaS rules by default, filtering behavior will no longer compatible across clouds.... | 22:51 |
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| armax | amotoki: but we can figure out ways in which that can be detected | 22:51 |
| armax | retrofitting this on the security group well established behavior would be a lot more painful | 22:52 |
| ihrachys | armax: retroactively? not sure. | 22:52 |
| ihrachys | but I think it's a separate discussion; we decided it's not secgroup thing. | 22:52 |
| armax | ihrachys: yes, that would be my take | 22:53 |
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| amotoki | yes, it is a different topic. anyway I agree that changing the current security group behavior is confusing. | 22:54 |
| armax | I dropped for a sec | 22:55 |
| armax | you guys can still see me? | 22:55 |
| armax | yello? | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | hi | 22:55 |
| ihrachys | yea | 22:56 |
| amotoki | o/ | 22:56 |
| armax | ok | 22:56 |
| armax | let see if we can squeeze | 22:56 |
| armax | bug # | 22:56 |
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| armax | bug 1605343 | 22:56 |
| openstack | bug 1605343 in neutron "[rfe] update CIDR for subnet" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1605343 - Assigned to Vladimir Eremin (yottatsa) | 22:56 |
| armax | I was close to rejecting this once | 22:56 |
| armax | I am inclined to reject it agian | 22:56 |
| armax | gain | 22:56 |
| armax | again! | 22:56 |
| ihrachys | shrinking definitely won't happen | 22:57 |
| ihrachys | as for expansion, Vladimir has an uncovered use case in comment 8 | 22:57 |
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| armax | I think that was in response to my comment of adding another subnet | 22:58 |
| armax | to the lot | 22:58 |
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| armax | but that would need to happen in such as way that they do not overlap | 22:58 |
| amotoki | comment 8 sounds a different story.. | 22:58 |
| armax | which I think it’s what already happens | 22:58 |
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| armax | we’re at time | 22:59 |
| armax | let’s continue the discussion on the bug report | 22:59 |
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| armax | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 19 23:00:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-01-19-22.02.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-01-19-22.02.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-01-19-22.02.log.html | 23:00 |
| njohnston | \o | 23:00 |
| armax | thanks everyone | 23:00 |
| armax | ciao | 23:00 |
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| amotoki | thanks | 23:00 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: actually I submitted two talks for placement. | 23:02 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: orly | 23:04 |
| mriedem | 1. wtf is it | 23:04 |
| mriedem | 2. htf do you deploy and/or upgrade properly with it | 23:04 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: one was for operators/architects/deployers higher-level talk, the other talk was the nitty gritty for devs. | 23:05 |
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| mriedem | mmm i like nitty gritty | 23:05 |
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| mriedem | devs like mlavalle | 23:06 |
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| kevinbenton | mriedem, jaypipes: this channel is for meetings only. violate that rule again and you will have your passports revoked | 23:13 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: unduly noted. | 23:13 |
| mriedem | that sounds like a perk actually | 23:15 |
| mriedem | kevinbenton: i'm fine taking my silliness to the neutron channel where the professionals are | 23:15 |
| jaypipes | kevinbenton: it is Silly Valley after all. | 23:15 |
| kevinbenton | mriedem: that channel is for very serious business #serious #yolo | 23:16 |
| mriedem | nothing says professional like hashtags with everything one says | 23:16 |
| mriedem | i mean, if it's profressional enough for the US president elect, it's profressional enough for me | 23:16 |
| mriedem | jesus i typoed that twice | 23:17 |
| kevinbenton | i wonder when companies will start putting hashtags in job titles? | 23:17 |
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| mriedem | ibm has new collar jobs so probably then | 23:17 |
| kevinbenton | very unprofressional of you | 23:17 |
| mriedem | http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/15/news/economy/ibm-ceo-trump-new-collar-jobs/ | 23:17 |
| mriedem | which only makes me think of this guy http://media.tumblr.com/bb67324430aff60719c593c8bd96aa75/tumblr_inline_mjo19gcIuV1r5whzi.jpg | 23:17 |
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| kevinbenton | triple collar jobs | 23:19 |
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