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thinrichsTime for the Congress meeting.00:01
bryan_attHi Tim00:01
thinrichscourtesy ping: ekcs, ramineni, masahito00:01
thinrichsbryan_att: hi00:01
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masahitohi00:02
bryan_attI sent an email I'd like to discuss.00:02
thinrichs#startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting00:02
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.00:02
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thinrichsbryan_att: I saw your email but didn't have time to dig into it.00:02
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bryan_attOK, just want to put it on the agenda for some followup00:02
thinrichsmasahito: hi00:02
thinrichsbryan_att: we'll do it first00:03
thinrichsin case you need to run off00:03
ramineni_hi00:03
bryan_att#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091591.html00:03
thinrichsramineni_: hi00:03
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thinrichsbryan_att: thanks for the link.00:03
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thinrichsHere's my agenda for today….00:04
thinrichs1. bryan_att's email00:04
thinrichs2. Mitaka release00:04
thinrichs3. stable/liberty and stable/kilo00:04
thinrichs4. Austin summit00:04
thinrichsAnything else?00:04
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ekcshi sorry I'm late. had trouble connecting.00:05
thinrichsekcs: I was dragging my feet hoping you'd join00:05
thinrichs#topic bryan_att's email00:06
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thinrichs#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091591.html00:06
bryan_attOK, I don't know who has ready this yet. But I can summarize.00:06
thinrichsbryan_att: Great00:06
bryan_attThe Policy tab for the OpenStack Dashboard depends upon plugin files being copied to the Horizon install folders.00:06
bryan_attFor my LXC-based install, that wont work.00:07
bryan_attI am trying to work around that for now by installing Congress directly into the Horizon container (this is the way JOID installs Horizon).00:07
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bryan_attI am stuck on the process is for copying the Congress plugins and activating them.00:07
bryan_attThe DevStack guide is not working for me. Is there some other source of the process doc?00:07
bryan_attbtw this is a real deployment, not devstack.00:08
thinrichsbryan_att: First off, it's great to hear about these issues first hand.  So thanks.00:08
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thinrichsbryan_att: I don't know the details of the Horizon integration.00:09
thinrichsThe person responsible hasn't been around for a while.00:09
bryan_attOK, I just need to know who to reach out to. And how anyone has gotten this working outside devstack.00:09
thinrichsI can try to track that person down.00:09
bryan_attDoes anyone use the horizon integration?00:09
bryan_att(in production or testing)00:09
bryan_attI have a reliable install that doesn't include the horizon part, and I was just trying to get it working.00:10
thinrichsI don't have contacts for that.00:10
bryan_attif it's not an important part of the project goals, I will skip it for now and come back later.00:10
ekcsI have used congress outside devstack, but I haven't tried horizon. maybe I should.00:10
thinrichsbryan_att: I'll send an email to the original developer of the Horizon plugin and include you.00:11
masahitofor the issue #2, python-congressclient must be installed in the Horizon container.00:11
bryan_attthanks, I would like to figure it out, and even suggest corrections to the install/docs for this.00:11
thinrichsClearly we should also take a look at whether our Horizon plugin works the way it should.00:11
bryan_attOK, thanks that was not clear.00:11
thinrichsIs that common for a Horizon plugin to require the python-client?00:12
bryan_attI'm wondering why a CLI client needs to be installed there, but that is a design choice to understand better.00:12
masahitoHorizon uses pythonclient to call OpenStack APi00:12
thinrichsmasahito: so Nova's pythonclient is required for its horizon plugin too?00:13
masahitoyes.00:13
bryan_attOK, that part makes sense. Rather than implement that again thru python in the horizon plugins.00:13
masahitoI think Nova and other main Service's client is listed in Horizon's requirements.txt00:13
thinrichsmasahito: yep—just checked.00:13
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thinrichsCould someone look into whether our Horizon plugin is up to date with what Horizon recommends today?00:14
thinrichs(We recently upgraded our devstack and tempest plugins.  Perhaps it's time for Horizon too.)00:14
ramineni_thinrichs: i have it working last time00:14
ramineni_thinrichs: through plugin00:14
ramineni_thinrichs: i can check again00:14
thinrichsramineni_: great!00:16
thinrichsramineni_: Can you also think through bryan_att's case, where he's installing Horizon in a separate container?00:16
thinrichsramineni_: Maybe figure out what the procedure is in that case (at least hypothetically)?00:16
thinrichsramineni_: and then respond to bryan_att's email?00:16
ramineni_thinrichs: ok,00:16
bryan_attyes, how to do cross-container copying of the files and executing the django comands is unclear to me.00:17
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bryan_attbut one step at a time00:17
ramineni_bryan_att: may be you could try installing the client for the start as masahito suggested?00:17
bryan_attI am doing that, and will let you know. I think it did not help.00:17
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ramineni_bryan_att: oohok00:18
bryan_attgoed for now. I will watch for an update from the author and in the meantime work on my non-horizon install. I'm also working to demo Congress at the OPNFV summit, illustrating various use cases for policy. And demoing how to add an OpenStack service to OPNFV in the process.00:18
bryan_attI'll post a video of the demos.00:18
thinrichsbryan_att: cool!  Let us know if you need any help00:19
bryan_attwill do00:19
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thinrichsNext topic…00:20
thinrichs#topic Mitaka release00:20
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thinrichsSeems we're all set for Mitaka.00:20
thinrichsI ran through some basic sanity checks for our latest release candidate, and all looked well.00:20
thinrichsThere were some emails about the release process that went out late last week.00:21
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thinrichsWe didn't have the right job set up, so we weren't generating tarballs and having them uploaded to the right place.00:21
thinrichsBut that's been fixed, so everything looks good, as far as I know.00:21
thinrichsAny questions/comments?00:22
ekcsThat's great!00:22
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thinrichsIt's the first release we've done that's been managed by the release-team.00:23
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thinrichsI tried to make it official by adding a tag to the Congress project, but I'm told they're making some changes to the semantics of that tag at Austin.00:23
thinrichsIf nothing further, we can move onto the next topic.00:25
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thinrichs#topic stable branches00:25
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thinrichsramineni_: are we ready for a stable release for either liberty or kilo?  There were some outstanding changes we were waiting on00:26
ramineni_thinrichs: ya , liberty we can do00:26
ramineni_thinrichs: kilo is supported?00:27
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thinrichsramineni_: kilo is still supported.  I don't remember how long we're supposed to support each release.00:27
ramineni_thinrichs: i thought 2 releases , so it should be mitaka and liberty00:28
ramineni_thinrichs: but anyway , we didnt have any changes for kilo i guess00:28
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thinrichsramineni_: kilo had the weird 2015.1.0 based releases.00:29
thinrichsSo at this point, I guess it makes sense to just worry about the last 2.00:30
thinrichsI think maybe it's longer for security-related bugs.00:30
ramineni_thinrichs: oohok00:30
thinrichsSo we should just do a stable/liberty release then.00:30
thinrichs#action thinrichs will do a stable/liberty release00:30
thinrichs#topic Austin00:31
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thinrichsWho is headed to Austin?00:31
ekcsI am.00:31
thinrichsI am00:31
masahitoI am00:31
ramineni_me too ..almost00:31
thinrichsAlmost?00:32
ramineni_plan not confirmed yet .. :)00:32
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ramineni_but it should be through this week00:32
ramineni_so, 90% coming00:32
ekcsgreat!00:33
thinrichsramineni_: good luck!  It'd be great to see you again00:33
thinrichsShall we plan on a group dinner again?00:33
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ramineni_+100:34
thinrichsLet's go with yes.00:34
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masahitosounds nice.00:34
thinrichsekcs: do you know Austin at all?  (I'm assuming neither masahito nor ramineni know it.)00:34
ekcsthat'd be great. I could organize it if it makes sense.00:34
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ekcshmm no never been there.00:34
ramineni_thinrichs: yep, no idea at all00:34
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bryan_attI'll be there00:35
masahitoI've never been there.00:35
ekcsclosest I've gotten as san antonio.00:35
thinrichsI don't know Austin either.00:35
ekcsbryan_att: great!00:35
thinrichsekcs: if you want to organize the dinner, that'd be great!00:36
ekcsthinrichs: cool.00:36
thinrichsbryan_att: It'll be great to see you in person.  And of course, you're welcome to come to dinner too.00:36
thinrichsekcs: Maybe something that's especially Texan would be good.  BBQ?00:36
bryan_attthanks - I'll try to bring some blueprint ideas based upon what I've learned.00:37
thinrichsekcs: or Mexican?00:37
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thinrichsbryan_att: looking forward to your ideas00:37
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ekcsthinrichs: haha yea I can talk to friends from the area. should I solicit prefs and votes on ML? or pretty much just decide among us then announce?00:38
ekcsramineni_: you're vegetarian right?00:38
ramineni_ekcs: no, just wont eat beef and pork00:38
thinrichsekcs: Decide among us and then announce.00:38
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thinrichsAny other dietary restrictions?00:39
thinrichsor preferences?00:39
ekcsramineni_: got it.00:39
ekcsthinrichs: got it.00:39
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thinrichsOk, now that we've got the important stuff out of the way (dinner)…00:40
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thinrichsthere are a number of talks on Congress…00:40
thinrichsYou can search for congress from the schedule page:00:40
thinrichs#link https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=congress00:40
thinrichsThe results include our 4 working sessions on Wed.00:41
thinrichsIt also includes masahito and fabiog's talks on Thursday, and 2-3 other relevant talks.00:42
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thinrichsThere's also a potential talk on the policy-based scheduler idea for Nova that is scheduled for Tuesday @noon, as part of a Dell sponsored session.00:42
thinrichsAnything else I'm forgetting?00:43
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thinrichsFor the 4 working sessions, the topics are there in the schedule:00:43
thinrichs1. Integration with other OpenStack projects (Monasca and Nova are on the list).  Other ideas?00:44
thinrichs2. Taking stock of our progress in the distributed architecture.00:44
thinrichs3. Working out last details of the distributed architecture00:44
thinrichs4. Looking at the application of the distributed arch to achieve high availability and query throughput00:45
ekcsIf we have keystone people who want to talk about it, we could discuss the keystone integration the person on #congress asked about.00:45
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thinrichsekcs: right—I think that was not someone from Keystone, but rather someone deploying OpenStack.00:46
thinrichsLet me check my notes.00:46
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ekcsthinrichs: right.00:46
thinrichsMy notes say jaugustine was from AT&T00:47
thinrichsbryan_att: do you know a jaugustine?00:47
bryan_attNo00:47
ramineni_ekcs: thinrichs: what was about keystone integration.. may be i missed it?00:47
ekcsthinrichs: schedule sounds great. I also had DA and HA+HT on top in my mind.00:48
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thinrichsHere's the exchange.  Let's see if I can paste it into the IRC…00:48
thinrichsjaugustine00:48
thinrichs1:44 Hi all, I've just learned about OpenStack Congress and am wondering if it would be able the help enforce some policies for Keystone.00:48
thinrichsthinrichs00:48
thinrichs1:45 jaugustine: that'd be great!00:48
thinrichs1:45 Did you have some particular policies in mind?00:48
thinrichsjaugustine00:48
thinrichs1:49 Our policy would be limiting a user's requests (invalid login), on X attempts and then block for X time.00:48
thinrichsjaugustine00:48
thinrichs1:53 I'm open to suggestions if there's a better way out there. It seems like a Congress policy most closely fits with allowing Keystone to remain stateless while also allowing us to prevent user lockout.00:48
thinrichsthinrichs00:48
thinrichs1:56 jaugustine: so you're thinking that on every failed attempt, Keystone will push some data to Congress, and on the next attempt Keystone will ask Congress what to do.  Is that right?00:48
thinrichsjaugustine00:48
ramineni_oohok, thanks00:48
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thinrichsIt's worth spending time before the summit remembering what state we're in with the distributed architecture.00:49
thinrichsIdeally we'll all start pushing some code again before then so it's fresh in our minds (and so we make progress).00:50
thinrichsSound good?00:50
ekcsthinrichs: got it. I'm hoping to wrap up a couple patches on that before the summit.00:50
masahitothinrichs: good00:50
ramineni_ok00:51
thinrichsIt's 3 weeks away, so we've got time to get ramped back up.00:51
thinrichsLet's do an open discussion for the last few minutes.00:52
thinrichs#topic open discussion00:52
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ekcsyup. i think we may be able to run congress with inmem transport on new arch by the end of the sessions.00:52
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thinrichsekcs: cool!  That would be fantastic.00:52
ramineni_thinrichs: FYI KiloSecurity-supported (EOL: 2016-05-02)00:53
thinrichsramineni_: thanks!  Makes me feel better.00:53
thinrichsOne thing I've heard a bit about on the ML is the openstack documentation.00:53
thinrichsRight now our docs are posted on readthedocs, not on the official openstack documentation.00:54
thinrichs#link https://congress.readthedocs.org/en/latest/00:54
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thinrichsWe should take a look at moving over to the official documentation00:55
thinrichs#link http://docs.openstack.org/00:55
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ramineni_thinrichs: actually i submitted one change releated to this in project config https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289719/100:55
thinrichsramineni_: do you know how that works?  I assume there's some format we should be using.00:56
thinrichsAre the docs already being published somewhere?00:57
ramineni_http://docs.openstack.org/developer/congress/00:57
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thinrichsWe're not listed on the projects page…00:58
thinrichshttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-projects.html00:58
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ramineni_thinrichs: oh, let me check that how to get it done00:58
thinrichsramineni_: great!  Didn't expect this would already be done.00:59
thinrichsramineni_: Do you know if there are other Guides we should create, other than the developer docs?00:59
ramineni_thinrichs: not sure01:00
thinrichsOut of time for this week.  I'll be on #congress for a bit longer.01:00
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thinrichsThanks all!  I'm looking forward to seeing you all in Austin!01:00
thinrichs#endmeeting01:01
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DaisyWe will have I18n meeting soon.05:59
Daisy#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting06:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  7 06:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.06:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.06:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)"06:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'06:00
Daisywho is around for i18n meeting ?06:00
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ujuchi06:01
DaisyHi, ujuc06:02
DaisyNice to see you.06:02
DaisyIt seems like only us two there.06:02
ujuc:)06:02
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DaisyAnyway, let's start.06:02
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ujucyes ;)06:02
Daisy#topic Summary of Mitaka translation06:02
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DaisyMitaka translation is done in March.06:03
ujucyes06:03
DaisyI have collected contributors data in the whole March.06:03
DaisyThe result is very impressive.06:03
DaisyDuring March, there are 317649 words translations from 63 translaors.06:04
DaisyThe top 10 contribution teams and top 10 contributors are pasted here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/493261/06:04
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ujucho06:05
Daisy:)06:05
ujuc:)06:05
DaisyCongratulations to the top contributors.06:05
ujucCongratulation!! :)06:06
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DaisyLet's move to next topic.06:06
ujucyes!06:06
Daisy#topic New translation priorities06:06
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DaisyKato has described his opinion to this topic.06:07
DaisyI agree with him.06:07
DaisyI think next step will be the documentation translations.06:07
ujucme to06:07
DaisyI think Kato will work with doc team to figure out the top priorities.06:07
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DaisyIt might be the installation guide.06:08
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ujucyes06:08
DaisyLet's leave it for Kato. and we move to next topic.06:08
jftaltaHi all06:08
ujuchi jftalta06:08
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Daisy#topic Continued discussion about glossary management06:08
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Daisywelcome, jftalta06:08
ujucglossary..! T.T06:08
DaisyKato and I are editing this Etherpad page: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-glossary-management06:09
DaisyKato has inputted the requirements and I have inputted the capabilities.06:09
jftaltaI'm comuting and my Internet connection is not very good...06:09
Daisyjftalta: It's ok. I think we will close this meeting very soon. :)06:09
jftaltaOk...06:09
DaisyKato will be the meeting organizer next time.06:10
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DaisyI suppose the glossary management will be a hot topic in the Austin summit.06:11
jftaltaOn thursday 4/21 ?06:11
DaisyWill you be there, jftalta ?06:11
jftaltaYes I will :)06:11
DaisyYes, on Thursday.06:11
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Daisyujuc: If you are not able to come, you can input your ideas in this Etherpad page.06:12
jftaltaGlossary management is one of our biggest challenges06:12
DaisyYes. as our team grow, the glossary is very important to us.06:13
jftaltaIt will be a hot topic in Austin, actually06:13
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DaisyI agree.06:13
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Daisyso we leave glossary discussion to Austin summit.06:13
Daisylet's move next topic.06:13
Daisy#topic release notes translation06:13
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DaisyThere is a big change to release note tool.06:14
DaisyPreviously we use wiki. I think they are changing06:15
Daisyhttp://releases.openstack.org/06:15
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DaisyHow to translate release note is still under processing.06:15
DaisyLet's wait and see.06:15
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Daisyany comments here ?06:16
jftaltaFor the french team this is not a big issue.06:16
Daisywhy ?06:16
Daisyjftalta: why it's not a big issue ?06:16
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jftaltaBecause french openstack users and ops are used to read english written software release notes06:17
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Daisyok. understand.06:18
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DaisyI see Japanese, Korean and Chinese people will translate it into local languages.06:18
Daisynext topic06:18
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Daisy#topic Austin sessions06:19
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jftaltaDoug is the right contact for that, is not it ?06:19
DaisyWhich Doug ?06:19
jftaltaHelllman06:19
DaisyI think so06:19
jftaltaOk06:19
DaisyKato is working with release team.06:19
jftaltaOk06:19
DaisyThere are two I18n related sessions in Austion.06:19
Daisy1 is a working session to tools and processes. The other is a half day contributors meet up.06:20
DaisyI think there are Etherpad pages for these two sessions.06:20
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jftaltaWhen will the second one stand ?06:22
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Daisyhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/austin-i18n-workshop06:22
DaisyThe first one is tracked here:06:22
Daisyhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/austin-i18n-workshop06:23
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DaisyI will ask Kato to create another page to track the contributors meetup.06:23
DaisySo anybody can input in the Etherpad pages.06:23
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DaisyOk. I'm done with the planned topics.06:23
Daisy#open discussions06:24
DaisyNow it's for open discussions06:24
DaisyIf no topics, I will close the meeting.06:24
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Daisyjftalta: sorry I just saw your question. The second one is on Friday morning.06:25
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jftaltaIt's ok Daisy :) On friday morning, ok.06:26
Daisyjftalta: do you have any other topics to discuss here ?06:27
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Daisyno response, I will close the meeting then.06:29
amotokiDaisy: one question06:29
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Daisyplease, amotoki06:29
amotokiwhy do you list top 10 contirubtions only during March.06:29
jftaltaSorry, I lost the connection06:29
amotoki *?06:29
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Daisyamotoki: because it's only in Mitaka translation period.06:29
amotokiin mitaka japanese team translated horizon related stuff continously06:30
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Daisyhmm.06:30
amotokiso the amount of translations is not high for them.06:30
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Daisyok. good point. Then I will extend the period.06:30
amotokii just would like to point out that only picking up March is not fair if you use it as stats.06:31
jftaltaI agree06:31
DaisyI will take your point and extend the period.06:31
amotokimost time was spent to review strings in real envs.06:31
jftaltaHi amotoki !06:32
DaisyMaybe extending to the whole cycle.06:32
amotokihi jftalta06:32
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Daisyany other questions ?06:33
Daisythen I will close the meeting.06:34
DaisyMore discussions can go to our mailing list.06:34
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Daisy#endmeeting06:34
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openstackMeeting ended Thu Apr  7 06:34:45 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)06:34
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-04-07-06.00.html06:34
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-04-07-06.00.txt06:34
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-04-07-06.00.log.html06:34
DaisyThank you everyone. Talk to you next time.06:35
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jftaltaHorizon check site : is the infra team working on its deployment ?06:36
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Daisy@jftalta let's go to openstack-i18n06:37
Daisyjftalta: there ?06:37
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jftaltaLost the connection again...06:37
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Daisyjftalta: still under review06:37
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Daisyjftalta: the patch is still under review.06:38
jftaltaok...06:38
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jftaltaNo more topic for me, Daisy06:38
DaisyThank you, jftalta.06:39
DaisyI have closed the meeting. :)06:39
DaisyHope you have a nice day.06:39
jftaltaThx. Goodbye. See you in Austin !06:39
DaisySee you.06:39
amotokithanks06:40
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: jobs depending on npm are now working again08:33
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gmann#startmeeting qa09:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  7 09:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'qa'09:00
gmannhi who's here for today?09:00
masayukig\o/09:00
gmannmasayukig: hi09:00
jlanouxo/09:00
gmannjlanoux: hi09:00
jlanouxhi gmann09:01
masayukiggmann: jlanoux: hi09:01
jlanouxhi masayukig09:01
masayukig:)09:01
dmelladohi guys o/ ;)09:01
gmanndmellado: hi09:01
toskyhi09:01
gmanntosky: hi09:01
jlanouxhi09:01
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gmannlet's start09:02
gmannhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_April_7th_2016_.280900_UTC.2909:02
gmann^^ today agenda09:02
gmann#topic Specs Reviews09:02
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gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z09:02
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jordanPhi09:03
gmannjordanP: hi09:03
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gmannStill need to look into client refactor spec09:03
gmanndid not get time this week09:03
gmannI think andrea updated that09:03
gmannnext one we were discussing yesterday was defcore tag one09:04
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301879/09:04
gmannon discussion i am not in favor of that tag but need to review the spec and add comment there09:04
gmannbut more people can review that which will be helpful to set right direction for defcore list of tests09:05
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masayukigI'll look at it09:05
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gmannmasayukig: Thanks09:06
gmannnext is from oomichi about swagger doc from schema09:06
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297473/09:06
gmannIt is pretty straight forward and LGTM except adding description for each element09:07
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gmannthis will be helpful to have nice API doc from swagger or other tool09:07
gmannany question or any other spec to discuss?09:08
* gmann very tired today, want to go home early.. :)09:09
gmannok if nothing much let's move to next topic09:09
gmann#topic Priority Items09:09
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gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-qa-priorities09:09
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gmannin this first one, microversion one is completed09:10
masayukiggmann: great09:10
gmannBP is marked as closed and we can start implementing the tests for microversion09:10
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gmann- Health Dashboard09:11
gmannmasayukig: you want to update on dashboard if any new thing to know09:11
masayukigyeah, we are changing some aggressively.09:12
masayukigyup :) And we should have a design summit session for the future.09:13
gmannmasayukig: cool09:13
masayukig(mtreinish already proposed it)09:13
gmann+1, there are lot of feature we can add on that09:14
gmannmasayukig: Thanks09:14
gmannnext - Service Client Migrations09:14
gmannso we are closed to complete network service client also along with compute09:15
gmannjust 2-3 patches more09:15
gmannoomichi: has one for network09:15
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301294/09:15
masayukigcool09:16
gmannand m mocing last one from compute one - keypair client09:16
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302482/209:16
dmellado# startmeeting test09:16
dmelladoohhh09:16
gmannso in Mitaka we can have all compute and network one in lib09:16
dmelladosorry09:16
dmelladowrong channel09:17
gmanndmellado: :)09:17
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gmannany other topic on priority item ?09:17
gmannor we can move if masayukig have anything on CLI?09:17
masayukigI have nothing about it :)09:18
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gmannok09:18
gmann#topic Tempest09:18
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gmannin morning i was discussing with mtreinish about layer 4 tests migration to their repo09:19
gmannso he already moved zaqar and doing for trove09:19
toskyI'm working on it for Sahara09:20
gmannI checked that telemetry one are all in their tree so i need to check with them if they have those running on gate09:20
gmannif so i will remove those from tempest09:20
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gmanntosky: yea, mtreinish mentioned that09:20
gmanntosky: very nice, Thanks09:20
gmannit will be nice if we are able to move all09:21
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masayukigreally great (we're kicking out them :-P)09:21
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gmannonly heat one needs to hold on till they merge the plugin and move tempest one to functional09:21
gmannmasayukig: yea09:21
gmannbecause may times it block the gate if something wrong09:22
gmannas today happened with Nova default flavor removal09:22
gmannlet's see how soon we can migrate those09:22
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gmanntosky: if you need any help on sahara one please let us know anytime09:23
masayukigyeah, we can help each other ;)09:24
gmannanything else on Tempest?09:24
gmannyea we are good team :)09:24
toskysure, thanks - I already did for python-saharaclient tests, it's more a matter of checking the plugin code :)09:25
gmanntosky: great, Thanks09:25
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masayukigok, let's move on :)09:26
gmannok, les's jumped to Austin Summit09:26
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gmannAustin summit topic :)09:26
gmann#topic Austin Summit09:26
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gmann#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-qa-summit-topics09:27
gmannso we have many sessions proposal there09:27
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masayukig9 sessions there?09:27
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masayukigThe deadline is next week meeting.09:28
gmannmasayukig: yea09:28
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gmannyea oomichi  might be finalizing those in next week meeting09:28
dmelladoso then let's wait 'til then to see if there's any new session/votes09:29
gmannonly thing we discussed in Nova API meeting is not to conflict QA with API sessions09:29
gmanndmellado: yea09:29
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masayukigI think "How to acceralate to apply tempest.lib to each project " and "What's necessary for a tempest plugin?" are similar/related things.09:30
gmannso if anyone has some other sessions you can let oomichi know and he can short that out09:30
dmelladomasayukig: would you like to co-chair that and agree on a common schedule?09:30
gmannmasayukig: yea seems to, so those are for better doc only or anything more needed?09:30
dmelladomaybe we can merge them09:30
masayukigdmellado: agree to merge09:31
masayukigI'm not sure it's enough time or not, though.09:31
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dmelladowe can drop some topics if needed09:31
dmelladoand if anyone has interest in going deep we can grab them after the tech talk09:32
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dmelladobut let's discuss this off-meeting masayukig09:32
gmanndmellado: m still not getting plugin one?09:33
gmannwhat is actually needed09:33
dmelladogmann: the point is that I'me seeing that a ton of projects still have doubts/issues with the plugin structure09:33
dmelladoand would like to cover that as a technical point of view09:33
dmelladoin-repo, separate repo09:33
dmelladoconfigurations, cookiecutter and so on09:33
gmanndmellado: hummm, i think we have doc for those09:33
toskywell, that's more a documentation issue/best practicies09:34
gmannand with recommendation09:34
dmelladoI know, but still think that it'd be useful09:34
gmannanyways let's find out what all issue there. nice to capture those and fix if any09:34
dmelladothat said, I think it could be moved to a topic in masayukig and we can co-chair the session09:34
gmanndmellado: sure09:34
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gmanndmellado: +109:34
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gmannso let's add more ideas before next week meeting09:35
masayukigdmellado: ah, I'm not a proposer "How to acceralate to apply tempest.lib to each project", though :)09:35
dmelladooh,09:35
* dmellado checking09:35
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dmelladooh, it was oomichi09:36
gmannmasayukig: you can be default one :)09:36
masayukigmaybe, oomichi is the one09:36
dmelladomasayukig: yes, I'll talk with him about this09:36
gmanndmellado: cool09:36
masayukigdmellado: ok ;)09:36
dmellado;)09:36
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gmannanything else ?09:36
gmann#topic Critical Reviews09:37
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gmannany reviews from anyone needs to bring up here09:37
gmannok, i will add mine if nothing else09:38
gmann#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302482/209:38
gmannwe can complete compute service client after this09:39
gmann#Open Discussion09:39
gmannanything more to discuss or we close early09:39
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gmannok, if nothing else, we can close.09:41
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masayukigThanks everyone :)09:41
gmannThanks all for joining09:41
gmann#endmeeting09:41
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mriedem#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting14:01
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mriedem#topic release status14:01
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moshelehi14:02
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mriedemaccording to the ML thread from last week, mitaka should be released today14:02
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mriedem"(8:55:34 AM) dhellmann: Ok, I'm going to find a glass of wine to celebrate."14:02
mriedemmust have already happened14:02
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johnthetubaguy#link https://github.com/openstack/nova/releases/tag/13.0.014:02
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mriedemok14:02
mriedemyay14:02
ndipanovwooo14:02
mriedem#topic bugs14:03
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mriedem#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html14:03
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mriedemi'm not aware of any new major blockers,14:03
markus_zno crits AFAIK and no14:03
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mriedemvexxhost was disabled this week because 70% of job timeouts were happening on vexxhost14:03
markus_z*regressions14:03
mriedem#link new bugs that need triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New&orderby=-datecreated&start=014:04
mriedemi see we must have landed the tags api14:04
mriedemthere is a docs bug14:04
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mriedemit's only been what, since juno?14:04
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mriedem#link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days14:05
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mriedemno news here really, xen ci's were having issues earlier in the week, seems like that's been sorted out14:05
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mriedemexcept the latent libxenlight thing that fails most of the xenproject ci runs14:06
mriedem#topic reminders14:06
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BobBallI think the libxenlight bug is waiting on some reviews to go through14:06
mriedemBobBall: link?14:06
BobBallI believe it's the two patches at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/201257/14:07
markus_zmriedem: Wanna say some words about the "bug cleanup day" we talked about at Tuesday?14:07
mriedemmarkus_z: that was next14:07
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* bauzas waves a bit late14:07
BobBallAnd 'more explanation' is needed :)14:07
* BobBall will poke anthonyper14:07
mriedem#help review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1461642+status:open to fix latent xenproject CI failures14:07
thomasem_o/14:08
* kashyap would be missing the bug cleanup day on 18th; will be traveling. Not that I couldn't do it on another day...14:08
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mriedemkashyap: feel free to do it anytime you have free time14:08
mriedemwhich brings me to14:08
mriedem#info Launchpad bug spring cleaning day Monday 4/18: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091456.html14:08
mriedemjust a reminder14:08
bauzasmriedem: all: Mitaka is officially released https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302452/14:08
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mriedembauzas: yup, old news14:08
kashyapmriedem: Yeah, I'm subscribed to relevant tags.  Discipline is missing14:08
mriedemto reiterate, the bug cleanup thing on the 18th is not a bug squashing day,14:09
mriedemit's a cleanup launchpad day14:09
mriedemwe have a lot of old garbage in there14:09
mriedemwhich makes finding the actual real bugs that need attention difficult14:09
bauzaswhat could we do for bugs provided like 1yr ago ?14:09
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bauzasasking the bug reporter to check again if the bug is there for master ?14:10
mriedembauzas: they might not be relevant anymore14:10
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bauzasmriedem: I agree, I just wonder the direction we could say14:10
mriedemif there is not enough info and they haven't retried on newer code, then it's incomplete14:10
bauzaslike "Incomplete, please retry the problem within master"14:10
mriedemif it's already incomplete for >x days (i forget the number, 60?), then i think we move to invalid14:10
bauzasokay, LGFM14:10
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bauzas90 AFAIK14:10
mriedemthere is a tab for stale incomplete stuff though14:11
mriedemit's in markus_z's dashboard14:11
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mriedemanyway, let's talk about that when it gets closer to the date14:11
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mriedem#link New review focus list: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-priorities-tracking14:11
mriedemsubteams - make sure your stuff is up to date in ^14:11
mriedemand limit it to <10 changes per subteam14:11
danpbFYI in Fedora, we bulk close all old bugs reported against outdated release when it goes EOL14:11
mriedemcode and specs14:11
danpband tell people to re-open it if they still have a problem with newer version14:11
mriedemdanpb: yeah, but fedora goes EOL pretty fast doesn't it?14:12
danpbthis avoids bugs jus sitting there forever14:12
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danpbmriedem: it releases every 6 months just like openstack14:12
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kashyapYeah, that's been the best way Fedora packagers cope with the volume14:12
mriedemdoes it maintain stable releases for a year though?14:12
danpbso effectively every 6 months we kill off bugs that are 1.5 years old14:12
mriedemok14:12
danpb(6 months of it being rawhide + 12 months of release lifetime after GA)14:13
markus_zmriedem: I'll make a query for that and answer on the ML post14:13
johnthetubaguyit does seem a reasonable culling cycle14:13
mriedemftr, i have no problem with marking a bug invalid if it was reported against juno or kilo and the reporter hasn't recreated against master14:13
bauzasyeah we could do that14:13
mriedemhowever, i expect most deployments right now are on kilo and liberty14:13
mriedemso i don't think we can just invalidate bugs reported against liberty outright14:13
dansmithyou'd have to do it by date14:13
dansmithbecause unlike fedora,14:14
bauzaswe could support bugs down to Kilo and invalid the older ones14:14
dansmithmost people are just rolling to something as it becomes EOL :/14:14
kashyap(To put another way: Once N+2 is released, 'N' goes End-of-Life.  And, all bugs (that are not solved) reported against 'N' are closed, with a request to re-test them on N+2, and re-open it if the issue persists.)14:14
johnthetubaguyyeah, we don't really have the target, so date seems the best approach14:14
danpbmriedem: sure, for as long as upstream maintain a stable branch we shouldn't kill bugs against it14:14
mriedemi'm glad to see there is interest in this :) but let's move on and get into details closer to the actual date14:15
danpbif vendors want to maintain stable branches downstream though for long, its their responsibility to deall with bugs downstream14:15
mriedembut totally feel free to start cleaning up stuff now14:15
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mriedem#link Draft Newton release schedule is up: http://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html14:15
mriedem#info Get specs re-proposed for Newton if they were approved but not implemented (completed) in Mitaka. This is the list we're using before the summit, everything else that's new is on freeze until after the summit.14:15
mriedem#link Open re-proposed specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/nova-specs+status:open+previously-approved14:15
mriedem#info We already have 43 approved blueprints: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/newton - 3 are completed, 6 have not started14:16
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mriedemi almost want to say, if you had a blueprint re-approved for newton and do'nt have code up by the summit, we yank it14:16
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mriedemb/c that means you've had at least 2 chances to get your code up for an approved spec and failed to do so14:17
mriedembut, we can hash that out at the summit14:17
mriedem#help https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty Volunteers for 1 week of bug skimming duty?14:17
mriedem#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty14:17
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mriedemi'd ask that the core team help check new bugs every so often, daily or every other day, it's easy to pick off at least one of the new bugs per day, i invalidated 3 new ones in an hour last night14:18
mriedem#link Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker14:18
mriedemnothing new here impacting nova14:18
mriedem#link stable/mitaka: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/mitaka,n,z14:19
mriedemi'll go through and start dropping my -2s on stable/mitaka backports now that we're live14:19
mriedem#link stable/liberty: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/liberty,n,z14:19
mriedemthere are some +2ed stable/liberty backports that could use some love14:19
mriedem#link stable/kilo: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/kilo,n,z14:19
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bauzasI guess kilo will be discussed during the summit stable session ?14:20
mriedemwe need to probably make a better effort to start killing some of the stable/kilo stuff off now14:20
mriedembauzas: yeah14:20
bauzasokay14:20
mriedemi've been dragging my feet on nixing some of the stable/kilo reviews14:20
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mriedemok, that's it for reminders (whew) anything have anything for reminders?14:20
mriedem*anyone14:20
mriedem#topic Stuck Reviews14:20
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mriedemthere was nothing in the agenda14:21
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mriedem#topic Open discussion14:21
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mriedem#link Austin Design Summit ideas: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-nova-summit-ideas14:21
mriedem#info There is a draft schedule at the bottom of the newton-nova-summit-ideas etherpad. Some of the sessions might happen on the Tuesday cross-project day though, so Nova will hold off on formalizing the design summit session schedule until the week of 4/11.14:21
mriedemi believe the tuesday xp sessions should be formalized today14:21
mriedemso early next week the nova schedule will get formalized14:21
mriedemwed is pretty solid already14:22
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mriedemWe have space for two sessions where we haven't decided content, so get your input into the etherpad this week if you have ideas.14:22
mriedem^ is for thursday14:22
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mriedembauzas suggested a session on pci/numa/fpga and high-performance guests14:22
bauzasyeah14:22
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mriedemif you want people to consider that, get the details in the etherpad14:23
bauzasso, we have some 3rd party CI for PCI that I'd like to get a better shape14:23
bauzasand also the FPGA discussion seems promising14:23
bauzasplus of course the NUMA things14:23
mriedemso all of the things that we constantly regress and don't test very well14:23
bauzasso probably kind of an opportunity to sit down and see what we can work for Newton14:23
* danpb apologizes for not attending the summit this time14:23
ndipanovI think by far most interesting thing to talk about there from code pov is PCI stuff14:24
ndipanovthere's plenty to improve there14:24
johnthetubaguyvGPU and FPGA kinda relate to that as well, I guess14:24
bauzas"room for improvement"14:24
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: yeah, hence my wonders I made to mriedem14:24
mriedemso i'm hearing technical debt cleanup14:24
ndipanovbauzas, ok fair enough it's a pile of s*it14:24
mriedemi'm pro cleaning up technical debt when it comes to NFV stuff14:25
johnthetubaguyflavor extra spec objectification could be part of that story I guess14:25
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bauzashonestly, I liked the live-mig subteam approach14:25
mriedemif this is about piling in more untested NFV things, i'm less interested14:25
johnthetubaguynot worthy of a full sessions, but I think sfinucan was keen to look at flavor extra specs14:25
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danpbflavour extra specs objectification will be even more horrific than the image meta work14:25
mriedemanyway, ndipanov + bauzas - if you have some specific things to talk about, please add them to a section in that etherpad14:25
johnthetubaguydanpb: it will, ack14:26
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bauzasmriedem: I could just leave my thoughts, but if noone takes the ball, then meh :)14:26
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mriedemjohnthetubaguy: yeah, flavor extra specs objects are currently in the API section of the etherpad bug i'm not sure why14:26
danpba first step is probably auditing the code to try and build a list of all stuff we use in flavour extra specs14:26
mriedembauzas: that's fine, proposals are free14:26
bauzasthe idea is more to see people gathering around and agreeing to work on a same direction :)14:26
dansmithmriedem: because we need to make api changes to do it right, IMHO14:26
danpbso that we have an idea ofthe scale of the problem14:26
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mriedemok, so we have 2 sessions for API, back to back14:27
dansmithtwo for api?14:27
mriedemmostly for default policy in code and discoverability14:27
mriedemthe api section in the etherpad is pretty full14:27
mriedemtoo full for one sessoin14:27
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mriedemso my point is, if we want to go over flavor extra specs objects, it's probably going to be it's own session, if it's really hairy14:28
dansmithpolicy and capabilities I guess are the big ones there14:28
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dansmithI think those three things are their own sessions14:28
edleafeeasily14:28
johnthetubaguyif we have the space, I am +1 that14:28
mriedemyeah, so maybe that's a candidate for one of the thurs afternoon slots14:28
diana_clarkeIs it possible for people not attending summit to listen in to these sessions?14:28
dansmithflavor stuff should be 5pm on friday after everyone is half into their first beer14:28
mriedemdiana_clarke: i don't know what the rooms are going to be like for AV14:29
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dansmithhistorically that has been hard, although it depends on what the rooms are like14:29
mriedemdiana_clarke: passing microphones doesn't really work14:29
edleafediana_clarke: unfortunately, generally not14:29
cdentdiana_clarke: I've tried that before and it just doesn't work, even if the tech is good14:29
johnthetubaguydiana_clarke: generally it sucks, its sorta possible to have one remote person kinda join the session, but other ways have always failed14:29
dansmiththe nova room is usually very large, and thus not super doable14:30
mriedemthere will be etherpads though and notes in those14:30
edleafeit's hard to hear what's being said sometimes, even when you're in the room14:30
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dansmithespecially when bauzas goes on and on about cheese14:30
bauzas:)14:30
alaskiI don't think the policy in code work will need a lot of discussion, so it could probably roll into a single session with capabilities14:30
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johnthetubaguydiana_clarke: yeah, adding comments on the etherpad before the session, and reading the summary afterwards is "state of the art" really14:31
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johnthetubaguyalaski: depends if we wonder towards discovery though14:31
mriedemyeah i'd prefer to leave extra room for new things14:31
dansmithI think we can easily hit an hour on that topic :)14:32
dansmithI plan to throw things14:32
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alaskifair enough14:32
alaskijohnthetubaguy: I'm not sure how discovery and capabilities differ, but the API side is definitely a big topic14:32
mriedemi think the neutron and cinder sessions will also be not enough for 40 minutes, but i don't really want to do 2 sessions for either of those14:32
bauzasattending remotely midcycles is already a challenge, I sincerely doubt of any success for a fishbowl session :(14:32
johnthetubaguyalaski: oops, true14:32
mriedemok, moving on14:33
mriedem(moshele): specless blueprint for adding infiniband support to the ironic driver and ironic service: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ironic-infiniband-support14:33
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mriedemmoshele: do you want to talk about this?14:33
mosheleyes14:33
mosheleso this is a change need in nova ironic to support infiniband in ironic14:34
markus_zmriedem: I added one too (last minute)14:34
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moshelethe change is very small for doing converting Infinband GUID to Mac14:34
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mriedemmoshele: the nova change itself is small,14:35
mriedemwhat worries me is the dependency chain14:35
dansmithhow do you make that translation?14:35
mriedemthere are 3 dependent ironic projects14:35
mosheleThe import one is ironic14:35
moshelethe ironic-inspector and agent or not  the dependency here14:36
mriedemdansmith: the code change in nova https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266540/14:36
mriedemmoshele: no, but they are dependencies for the ironic spec,14:36
mriedemwhich is a dependency for the nova change14:36
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dansmithoh mah14:37
moshelethey just to be able to discover inifinband automatically14:37
dansmithjust take the bottom chunk of the uuid?14:37
mosheleonly this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/264263/14:37
mriedemwow14:37
mriedemthat's not small14:37
mriedemmoshele: so, i'm basically -2 on this until the ironic stuff is at least +214:38
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mriedemgiven the large dep tree on ironic here14:38
moshelemriedem: fine by me, but I don't need spec for nova right?14:38
mriedemgiven the smallish change in nova it doesn't seem that a spec is required,14:39
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mriedemit's enabling a feature in a single virt driver for a single vendor14:39
mriedemanyone else think this needs a spec or not?14:40
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mriedemnope, ok, so specless it is14:40
mosheleok cool14:40
mriedemi'll add a comment to the bp after the meeting about need to see approvals on the ironic parts before nova moves ahead14:40
mriedemmarkus_z: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/linux-ficon-support go!14:41
markus_zThe main part is done in cinder and os-brick14:41
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danpbIMHO i guess it depends on what the scope of the integration in nova ironic is ?14:41
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markus_zwe need a new libvirt volume driver which does the connect/disconnect14:41
dansmithdanpb: patch above14:41
mriedemmarkus_z: i see the cinder bp is approved https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/linux-ficon-support14:41
dansmithoh sorry  heh14:41
markus_zThat's it basically.14:41
mriedemeven though the cinder spec isn't14:41
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johnthetubaguymriedem: +1 on specless for the iroinc change, and the ironic approvals needs14:42
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mriedemmarkus_z: ok, so just a new libvirt volume wrapper to an os-brick connector, that is specless bp then14:42
mriedemat least that's how we've treated these in the past, i'm fine with that14:42
markus_zyep, that's all we need for that14:42
johnthetubaguyyeah , +1 for specless os-brick integration14:43
markus_zcool, thanks14:43
mriedemmarkus_z: ok, can you or stefan get the cinder spec thing resolved? the bp is approved but the spec isn't, i'm not sure it needs a cinder spec14:43
markus_zmriedem: Yep, will do14:43
mriedemalright, anyone else have anything for open discussion?14:43
mriedemalright, thanks for coming everyone14:44
mriedem#endmeeting14:44
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dtroyer_zzHey!19:00
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dtroyer_zz#startmeeting openstackclient19:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr  7 19:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dtroyer_zz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstackclient)"19:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient'19:00
stevemaro/19:00
dtroyer_zzI'm here in spite of my nick19:00
baumannHello19:01
rtheiso/19:01
jgregorHello19:01
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stevemarhello osc'ers19:01
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stevemarbump?19:02
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dtroyer_zzhey hey19:03
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baumannThe 'zz's are real19:03
dtroyer_zzwe have another agenda, what is this, a regular team now:  :)19:03
dtroyer_zz#topic multiple API ooutputs19:04
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stevemargiven how much we're commiting to our repo, it would seem like it19:04
dtroyer_zzhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/156609019:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1566090 in python-openstackclient "Cannot determine network, or pool, a floating ip belongs to without multiple commands" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)19:04
dtroyer_zzis reedip here?19:04
dtroyer_zzor Carlos (not sure of his nick)19:05
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stevemari think he is meteorfox... who doesn't seem to be online19:05
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stevemarhe is in -sdks, i asked him to join here19:06
stevemarhe left a pretty good explanation in the bug report19:06
dtroyer_zzk.  I haven't studied this in depth, but it seems like priority one is to make both versions of the command output the same as much as reasonable.  or at least predictable19:06
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stevemardtroyer_zz: i think he's asking for the pool column to come back19:07
rtheisyeah19:08
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stevemarmeteorfox: o/19:08
dtroyer_zzright.  what I'm saying is the solution needs to do essentially that without calling nova-net if Neutron is present19:08
stevemardtroyer_zz: we have a meteorfox now :O19:09
rtheisagreed19:09
dtroyer_zzmeteorfox: welcome!19:09
dtroyer_zzwe;re discussing https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/156609019:09
openstackLaunchpad bug 1566090 in python-openstackclient "Cannot determine network, or pool, a floating ip belongs to without multiple commands" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)19:09
dtroyer_zzand the short summary is that the pool colum should return, correct?19:09
meteorfoxhi all, thanks for looking at this19:09
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meteorfoxyeah, pool name or the network id it belongs to19:10
dtroyer_zzthe cause is the difference between nova-net and neutron AIUI19:10
dtroyer_zzso we need to go to a bit of work to produce that, correct?19:10
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meteorfoxyes19:11
stevemardtroyer_zz: not sure how to add that, my neutron knowledge is sad19:11
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dtroyer_zzmeteorfox: your last comment in the bug (#4) is close, except that we need to do it without calling any Nova APIs, as nova-net is suppsoed to go away someday19:12
rtheismeteorfox: shouldn't floating_network_id have what you want if the command displayed that?19:12
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meteorfoxbasically, my usecase is that I have the name of the floating IP pool, I want to know what floating IP address are available in that pool, if any19:12
meteorfoxfloating_network_id should work19:13
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rtheismeteorfox: assuming you have the network id then you could use https://review.openstack.org/#/c/298870/ to get availability19:14
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dtroyer_zzfor that specific use case I'd be looking for a —pool option to the list command to do the filtering, but that's a follow-on issue19:14
dtroyer_zzwe have to have the info first19:14
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meteorfoxyes looks like that might work, when implemented19:15
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dtroyer_zzif Neutron's list doesn't have an option for full details then this could be painful to generate19:16
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dtroyer_zzwhat I think we can do here though is clarify what the expected solution looks like19:16
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meteorfoxIdeally I would like that each  floating ip that is listed with 'ip floating list' have an extra column either showing the floating_network_id or the pool name it belongs to, that way I can filter the output for only those I'm interested19:18
rtheisI think that the CLI should have the floating_network_id information so it should be able to display it19:18
dtroyer_zzI'll leave a note in the bug regarding not using nova-net to fix this, can someone summarize if waiting for the availability spec works or do we need to move ahead with bringing the pool column back?19:19
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dtroyer_zzok, that answers my question19:19
dtroyer_zzanythign else on this?19:20
meteorfoxnope :)19:20
rtheisthanks19:20
dtroyer_zz#topic new meeting time proposal19:21
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dtroyer_zzsheel started the ML trhead: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091207.html19:22
stevemarwhat are the results of the mailing list?19:22
dtroyer_zzand it split here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091440.html19:22
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dtroyer_zzthere isn't a unanimous choice here19:22
dtroyer_zzThe even week time is right against the API WG which I'd rather not do19:23
dtroyer_zzand Tang wants to move the odd week time from now to the morning (north america)19:24
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dtroyer_zzof those here, who presumably can make this time, what is the feeling about moving to 1400 UTC?19:24
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rtheis1400 on which day?19:25
dtroyer_zzit seems that we should maintain more of a separation between the two19:25
dtroyer_zzugh, the agenda says Tuesday19:25
dtroyer_zzI can't do more meetings on Tuesday19:26
rtheisthat conflicts for me with neutron meetings19:26
rtheison Tuesday morning19:26
rtheisbut I could make it work19:26
dtroyer_zzI would rather move the even week earlier yet to help him timezone-wise19:27
reedip__sorry19:28
dtroyer_zzso it seems we need to keep going, I'll summarize and propose that to the thread…19:28
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reedip__just woke up19:28
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dtroyer_zzok, let's move on19:29
dtroyer_zz#topic reviews19:29
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dtroyer_zzWhat needs attention?  There's been a bunch of traffic this week, nice19:30
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rtheisI don't have any specific reviews to bring up19:31
stevemari put in a request to release a new KSA version, should happen on monday, it'll push this forward: https://review.openstack.org/27635019:31
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dtroyer_zzI think we should do a release next week, we have a bunch of stuff in the queue19:31
stevemardtroyer_zz: absolutely19:31
rtheissounds good19:32
dtroyer_zzI've started cleaning up release notes, and youse huys jumped on it and I have two more fixes already ;)19:32
rtheisthank you for doing the cleanup19:32
stevemardtroyer_zz: next release will be 2.4.0, i don't see a reason for a major version jump19:32
dtroyer_zzone thing I've noticed that we need to sort, or I just need to understand better, is we released 2.3.0 on stable/mitaka, but master is still on 2.2.0 so the next has to skip19:33
stevemarhuh?19:33
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stevemarwhat do you mean by master is still on 2.2.0?19:33
dtroyer_zzstevemar: no, I want to talk about that in Austin, refresh on the steps and plan what all needs to go in then (breakage, etc)19:33
dtroyer_zz2.3.0 was released on the stable/mitaka branch, to handle a constraints change.19:33
dtroyer_zzwe can't use it.  Look at the current version on master, it reports 2.2.1-devNNN19:34
stevemarwtf19:34
stevemarhow did that happen19:34
stevemaroh ... i think i remember19:34
stevemarthe oslo constraints19:34
dtroyer_zzwe had to increment Y due to the requirements change19:34
dtroyer_zzyup19:34
stevemarwe should be able to clear that up before austin19:35
dtroyer_zzthis is why I wish we didn't branch until we actually release19:35
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stevemardtroyer_zz: i think it's still 2.4.0 regardless19:36
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stevemarif we cut from master19:36
dtroyer_zzanyway, we have a couple of review series that should either all go in together or wait until after the release, I don't want incomplete things that may need fixing to go in at the last minute19:36
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dtroyer_zzstevemar: right19:36
rtheisok19:36
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dtroyer_zzRDO's master packaging is AFU because of this, but I don't really care about that, it's wrong to begin with ;)19:37
stevemarwhat incomplete things are you referring to?19:37
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dtroyer_zzthe ip fixed/floating chain, maybe the server group chain19:37
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stevemarhmm okay19:38
dtroyer_zzwe had a number of fixes/updates to options for new commands this release, fortunately the comamnds were new so the compat bits actually don't need to be there19:38
stevemarcause we're going to have all of that + the ksa patch (which i think justifies a major version bump)19:38
dtroyer_zzputting premature commands in a release doesn't feel right to me19:39
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stevemarthe KSA patch alone justifies a major version bump, cause i don't trust that things won't break19:39
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dtroyer_zzwhat we may do is get things cleaned up this week, and release on a SHA from this week, but to it next week19:39
dtroyer_zzbut do it next week19:39
stevemarcould do that19:39
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dtroyer_zzthat's why I'm cleaning now.  but want to slow down on totally new commands19:40
dtroyer_zzmore on releases or reviews?19:41
rtheisdtroyer_zz: one more thing...19:41
rtheiswe should be getting sdk bumped soon...  is it okay to push those command through that need it?19:41
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dtroyer_zznew commands?19:41
rtheishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/302885/19:42
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rtheishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/289716/19:42
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rtheishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/281694/19:42
rtheishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/281691/19:42
rtheishttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/297063/19:42
reedip__There are actually several of them :)19:42
dtroyer_zzthis isn't the SDK 1.0 with the new resource stuff, right?19:43
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rtheiscorrect19:43
rtheisThis is 0.8.4 which provides address scopes and router interface enhancements19:43
rtheisno new resource stuff19:44
dtroyer_zzok.  these are still new commands, but presumably have had a bit more looks that should not need further tweaking19:44
dtroyer_zzright?19:44
rtheisright19:44
rtheisI'm okay with holding them too if you want to19:45
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stevemari say do it ;)19:45
dtroyer_zzwe should be careful about getting sets together, such as the add/remove from the first link rtheis posted19:45
rtheisstevemar: do it means merge or hold for next release ?19:46
stevemarmerge!19:46
dtroyer_zzlets move forward with the one that feel complete and should not put us in a position to need to fix them right after the release19:46
dtroyer_zzthat's my worry19:47
stevemarwe're behind on parity for basic network functionality, so anything that pushes us forward is good to me19:47
rtheisok19:47
dtroyer_zzstevemar wants quantity, I want quality.  ;)19:47
stevemar(but i'm not ptl, so i don't have to worry about fallout)19:47
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dtroyer_zzhow about…19:49
dtroyer_zz#topic bugs19:49
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dtroyer_zzany hot ones? it looks like there are a bunch of new-ish ones on formatting and messaging19:50
stevemaryeah, some guy went happy go lucky and opened a bunch related to keystone servce19:50
rtheishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/156015719:50
openstackLaunchpad bug 1560157 in python-openstackclient ""openstack network list" fails with "An SSL error occurred."" [Medium,Confirmed]19:50
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rtheisstill haven't been able to reproduce this one, but will take another look today19:51
rtheisIf you have any suggestion, please post to bug.  Thanks19:51
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dtroyer_zzif feels liek we're not setting up the SDK session with a proper verify argument19:53
rtheisyeah, I'll check that19:53
dtroyer_zzWe should see who low we have to go to use the same session for the SDK and KSA/others19:53
rtheishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/156444719:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1564447 in python-openstackclient "Subnet set removes existing values for repeated options" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)19:53
rtheishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/156445319:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1564453 in python-openstackclient "Port set removes existing values for repeated options " [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)19:53
rtheisIt would be nice to fix these for next release since the commands are new19:53
dtroyer_zzthese set commands are fun that way.19:54
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rtheis:)19:54
dtroyer_zzis this a case of needing to have all of the items for the POST/PATCH call?19:54
rtheisyes, I think so19:54
dtroyer_zzbut yes, we should push that up before release if possible19:54
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rtheiswe should have them all, just need to append with options specified19:55
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rtheisreedip__: do you think you'll have time to handle both?19:55
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reedip__rthies: WIll share the updated patch in a few hours19:56
dtroyer_zzcool, thanks19:56
rtheisthanks19:56
dtroyer_zz4 minutes, any other bugs?19:56
rtheisnothing else from me19:56
reedip__I can discuss my queries on #sdk19:57
dtroyer_zz#topic open discussion19:57
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dtroyer_zztime is short, but anything else we should hear about?19:57
reedip__discussed with stevemar yesterday19:57
reedip__wanted to know how to implement clientcommand extension of neutronclient in OSC19:58
reedip__rtheis has some patches, but I was confused in the implementation19:58
dtroyer_zzdo you mean OSC plugins in neutronclient?19:58
reedip__correction: rthies has some patches detailing some information in python-neutronclient *19:58
reedip__dtroyer_zz : OSC plugins for projects, which use Neutronclient extensions19:59
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reedip__for example : Tap-as-a-service, networking-sfc, l2gw19:59
rtheisreedip__: neutronclient could use its own python bindings or the sdk binding already available19:59
reedip__should I move this to the #sdk as well ?19:59
dtroyer_zzyes, there will be time there19:59
reedip__okay, moving20:00
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dtroyer_zzand that's time20:00
dtroyer_zzthanks everyone!20:00
dtroyer_zz#endmeeting20:00
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bodenfyi -- the neutron drivers meeting appears to be canceled: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091691.html22:03
sukhdevboden: thanks22:04
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armaxyes, sorry folks, there’s just been a gate breakage after another22:18
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