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| boris-42 | rvasilets: meeting | 14:05 |
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| rvasilets | рш | 14:05 |
| rvasilets | hi | 14:05 |
| rvasilets | boris-42, hi | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin | boris-42: try to startmeeting | 14:06 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: ? | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin | now: (Meeting topic: #telemetry) | 14:06 |
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| andreykurilin | but previous meeting was finished with "#endmeeting" | 14:06 |
| boris-42 | #startmeeting Rally | 14:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 28 14:07:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is boris-42. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | nice | 14:07 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: hm? | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | o/ | 14:07 |
| anteaya | if the bot left or was disconnected at some point often the topic is not current | 14:07 |
| rvasilets | o? | 14:07 |
| boris-42 | okay so it works | 14:07 |
| boris-42 | anteaya: thanks | 14:07 |
| anteaya | after the meeting if someone could ping someone in the -infra channel they can refresh the topic | 14:07 |
| anteaya | boris-42: welcome | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | anteaya: got it, thanks:) | 14:08 |
| boris-42 | so | 14:08 |
| andreykurilin | today we have an agenda | 14:08 |
| andreykurilin | \o/ | 14:08 |
| amaretskiy | finally :) | 14:08 |
| boris-42 | #topic I finally did something for rally | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "I finally did something for rally (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:08 | |
| ikhudoshyn | )) | 14:08 |
| boris-42 | so basically there is a bug in Rally code | 14:08 |
| andreykurilin | boris-42: really? | 14:08 |
| boris-42 | we are not calculating properly load duration | 14:09 |
| rvasilets | no way) | 14:09 |
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| boris-42 | I fixed that | 14:09 |
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| boris-42 | so now load duration is calulated as a duration between first iteration start and biggest (started_at + duration) iteration | 14:10 |
| redixin | we need to fix the rest https://bugs.launchpad.net/rally/ | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: ^ this should remove artefacts on reports | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | redixin: yep | 14:10 |
| amaretskiy | boris-42: great fix | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | btw it's simple | 14:10 |
| boris-42 | so next topic is about pain that happen after that fix | 14:11 |
| boris-42 | #topic Rally / MGMT network / Pain | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rally / MGMT network / Pain (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:11 | |
| boris-42 | so guys seems like it's very hard to use rally when you don't have access to mgmt network | 14:11 |
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| boris-42 | so there are 2 ways to address this | 14:12 |
| boris-42 | one is to finish faster deployment & verification refactoring | 14:13 |
| boris-42 | another is to finish work on rally as a service and run rally as a s regular service | 14:13 |
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| redixin | i know one more way | 14:13 |
| amaretskiy | run rally on separate nod and use raas - the best way imho | 14:13 |
| redixin | to create python-horizonclient | 14:13 |
| amaretskiy | *node | 14:13 |
| boris-42 | redixin: that will work VERY VERY SLOW | 14:14 |
| redixin | that was a joke | 14:14 |
| boris-42 | redixin: btw people is working on that | 14:14 |
| boris-42 | =) | 14:14 |
| redixin | -_- | 14:14 |
| andreykurilin | boris-42: I'll try to finish aas spec asap | 14:15 |
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| boris-42 | andreykurilin: thanks | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | okay | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | #topic [amaretskiy] Balancing users: maybe do not support random choice at all, just switch to balancing silently? | 14:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[amaretskiy] Balancing users: maybe do not support random choice at all, just switch to balancing silently? (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:17 | |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: so I think that we neeed to support random choice | 14:17 |
| amaretskiy | okay | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: however I do agree that we can switch to round robin | 14:17 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: by default | 14:17 |
| amaretskiy | this looks reasonable to me | 14:18 |
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| amaretskiy | balancing is what users expect | 14:18 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy: so I do not think that it would be hard to support both | 14:18 |
| amaretskiy | okay | 14:18 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: and add parameter in context for that | 14:18 |
| amaretskiy | i was in doubt so I decided to add this topic | 14:19 |
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| andreykurilin | boris-42: lets discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229896/ | 14:20 |
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| boris-42 | andreykurilin: we already did, no? | 14:20 |
| andreykurilin | it should not be blocker for distributed runner | 14:21 |
| andreykurilin | amaretskiy: am I right? | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | not blocking | 14:21 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy: andreykurilin so there is way to implemnet it | 14:21 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: andreykurilin that won't block | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | because each d-runner has its own index | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy | so we can add shift by d-runner index | 14:21 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: andreykurilin so i think i remember the problem here | 14:22 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy: andreykurilin we are not passing iteration index to context | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | no no | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | no titeration index | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | thi spatch uses RAMInt | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | so in case if we have d-runners | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | each of them will get next RAMInt value | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | same values | 14:23 |
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| amaretskiy | but they can add own index ro this value | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | for example | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: nope | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | we started 3 distributed rally instances | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: nope | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | ? | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: each of runner will have it's unique index | 14:23 |
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| boris-42 | first runner 1 + i * count_of_runners | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | second runner 2 + i * count_of_runners | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | and so on | 14:24 |
| amaretskiy | so, for example, these runners starts their 1st iterations | 14:25 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: they will have unique iterations ids | 14:25 |
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| amaretskiy | not clear | 14:26 |
| boris-42 | what is not clear? | 14:26 |
| boris-42 | let's assume 3 runenrs | 14:26 |
| boris-42 | 1 4 7 10 is for first runner | 14:26 |
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| boris-42 | 2 5 8 11 is for second runner | 14:26 |
| boris-42 | 3 6 9 12 is for thrid runner | 14:26 |
| boris-42 | each of runners has unique ids of iterations | 14:27 |
| amaretskiy | yes | 14:27 |
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| boris-42 | so what is missing in that patch | 14:27 |
| boris-42 | is that we are not passing scenario id | 14:27 |
| amaretskiy | no | 14:27 |
| boris-42 | as far as I remember yes | 14:27 |
| amaretskiy | all these runners knows about tenants and users | 14:28 |
| amaretskiy | they must balance them | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: it's not runners work | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: it's done in context method | 14:28 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy: wich don't accept ID of iteration and it should accept | 14:28 |
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| amaretskiy | i do not see any problems with this patch | 14:29 |
| amaretskiy | related to d-runners | 14:29 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy: ITERATION_COUNTER = rutils.RAMInt() | 14:29 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: ^ this doens't work | 14:29 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: and to make it work properly you need to pass ITERATION ID to CONTEXT | 14:30 |
| amaretskiy | hmmm, yes | 14:30 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: not to generate | 14:30 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: in each context | 14:30 |
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| boris-42 | it's very easy to fix | 14:31 |
| amaretskiy | passing iteration number will even work faster | 14:31 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: amaretskiy ^ | 14:31 |
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| boris-42 | so that is only blocker | 14:32 |
| boris-42 | if somebody can do that | 14:32 |
| boris-42 | that will be nice | 14:32 |
| amaretskiy | I believe vponomaryov will finish this patch | 14:33 |
| amaretskiy | I will help him | 14:33 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: he was waiting for me | 14:33 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: to finish that part | 14:33 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy: so I can finish that part | 14:34 |
| boris-42 | I will try today | 14:34 |
| boris-42 | with passing id | 14:34 |
| amaretskiy | cool | 14:34 |
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| boris-42 | any other topic? | 14:37 |
| rvasilets | nothing from me | 14:37 |
| amaretskiy | nothing from me | 14:38 |
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| andreykurilin | boris-42: one more | 14:38 |
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| andreykurilin | from agenda | 14:39 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: ? | 14:39 |
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| andreykurilin | it is not saved:( | 14:39 |
| andreykurilin | ok | 14:39 |
| andreykurilin | topic: too many commands to display task results | 14:40 |
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| boris-42 | #topic too many commands to display task results | 14:40 |
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| boris-42 | soo | 14:40 |
| boris-42 | not too many | 14:40 |
| boris-42 | task report | 14:40 |
| boris-42 | task results | 14:40 |
| boris-42 | and task export in future | 14:40 |
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| andreykurilin | task detailed | 14:41 |
| andreykurilin | :) | 14:41 |
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| boris-42 | so actually we should remove task results in favor of task export | 14:41 |
| boris-42 | and task detailed should be task report with specific key | 14:42 |
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| andreykurilin | maybe it is better to remove `task detailed`? | 14:42 |
| andreykurilin | and use `task results`, `task results --detailed`, `task results --json` ? | 14:43 |
| amaretskiy | results and report differs | 14:43 |
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| boris-42 | andreykurilin: so task detailed seems more like report | 14:43 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: so I would keep 2 commands task report (instead of task detailed) | 14:43 |
| amaretskiy | "rally task detailed" can be merged into "rally task report" | 14:43 |
| boris-42 | and task export instead of task results | 14:43 |
| amaretskiy | sounds reasonable | 14:44 |
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| andreykurilin | ok, let's deprecate `task detailed` in favor of task report | 14:45 |
| andreykurilin | and `task results` in favor of `task export` | 14:45 |
| andreykurilin | lets reduce number of commands:) | 14:45 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: however we will need to keep it depracted forever | 14:45 |
| boris-42 | =) | 14:45 |
| andreykurilin | why? | 14:45 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: a lot of people is using it | 14:46 |
| andreykurilin | boris-42: deprecated warning will fix it | 14:46 |
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| andreykurilin | boris-42: I raised this topic, because I found attempt to introduce one more command to display results... | 14:47 |
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| boris-42 | andreykurilin: export? | 14:47 |
| andreykurilin | error | 14:47 |
| andreykurilin | or errors | 14:48 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: oh that is very bad UI | 14:48 |
| andreykurilin | and there is no real objective against this command, because we already have separate command for different types of displaying results | 14:48 |
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| andreykurilin | *separate commands | 14:48 |
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| boris-42 | yep we really should not add more commands | 14:49 |
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| andreykurilin | ok, it looks like we don't have more topics to discuss | 14:51 |
| boris-42 | #endmeeting | 14:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 28 14:52:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-03-28-14.07.html | 14:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-03-28-14.07.txt | 14:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-03-28-14.07.log.html | 14:52 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 28 15:00:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
| lennyb | hi | 15:00 |
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| Swanson | hi | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | hey folks | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | so first things first, I will be offline next week | 15:01 |
| anteaya | and am looking for a volunteer willing to chair this meeting slot next week | 15:01 |
| anteaya | if either of you are willing to take it, I'm grateful | 15:02 |
| anteaya | second | 15:02 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296825/ | 15:02 |
| anteaya | I have a patch up the the meetings repo | 15:02 |
| anteaya | which includes some dates I want to skip for this meeting | 15:03 |
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| Swanson | neat | 15:03 |
| anteaya | the skip_dates syntax change hasn't landed yet, which is why the patch isn't merged yet | 15:03 |
| anteaya | but it is forthcoming | 15:03 |
| anteaya | so heads up | 15:03 |
| lennyb | anteaya: no problem, I can take both meetings | 15:03 |
| anteaya | lennyb: awesome thank you | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | #info lennyb will chair both third party meeting next week: Monday at 15:00 utc and Tuesday at 08:00 utc | 15:04 |
| anteaya | thanks lennyb | 15:04 |
| anteaya | so take a look at the dates of skipped meetings in the patch above | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | the first set is due to summit | 15:04 |
| anteaya | I have an item I would like to discuss | 15:05 |
| anteaya | does anyone else have an item they would like to discuss today? | 15:05 |
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| Swanson | I do not. | 15:05 |
| anteaya | thanks Swanson | 15:05 |
| lennyb | nope | 15:05 |
| anteaya | okay thanks lennyb | 15:05 |
| anteaya | I'll proceed | 15:06 |
| anteaya | #topic nova ci's missed a regression | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/090345.html | 15:06 |
| anteaya | so mostly this is for lennyb | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | lennyb: had you seen this email thread prior to now? | 15:06 |
| asselin | o/ | 15:06 |
| * lennyb checking | 15:06 | |
| anteaya | hey asselin | 15:07 |
| anteaya | asselin: nice to see you :) | 15:07 |
| * asselin is back from vacation | 15:07 | |
| anteaya | asselin: how was vacation? | 15:07 |
| lennyb | anteaya: yes, I've seen it. | 15:07 |
| anteaya | asselin: I was missing you | 15:07 |
| anteaya | lennyb: great | 15:08 |
| asselin | awesome :) | 15:08 |
| anteaya | so the item I'm curious about it the question the first post asks | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | how did it transpire that a patch was merged that ci's were saying it would break them | 15:08 |
| anteaya | asselin: glad to hear it | 15:08 |
| anteaya | lennyb: have you any thoughts? | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | lennyb: did your ci say the patch would break you? | 15:09 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: I probably overlooked this failure. | 15:10 |
| anteaya | okay that would be good to state on the mailing list | 15:10 |
| anteaya | as the rest of the thread goes on to suggest the remedy is to build a lab of quite extensive hardware and human resource needs | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | when in actual fact if the testing is already in place and what we need is more human awareness, admitting that might be a good place to begin | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | lennyb: are you comfortable going into the nova channel and having a discussion with matt about this? | 15:12 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: I need to discuss this with my colleagues first. | 15:13 |
| anteaya | lennyb: understandable | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | can you work with them to compose a response to the email thread? | 15:13 |
| anteaya | let me know if you encounter an obstacle | 15:14 |
| lennyb | anteaya: sure | 15:14 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:14 |
| anteaya | because I do think we already have considerable testing structure in place | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | and if what we need is more human activity then the direction the thread has taken won't be the solution anyway | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | but I think you are one of only two groups that can say so | 15:15 |
| anteaya | the other being the intel group | 15:15 |
| lennyb | agreed | 15:15 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any more to say about this topic? | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have any other topic they would like to discuss? | 15:16 |
| anteaya | #topic open discussion | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have any objection to me closing the meeting? | 15:17 |
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| asselin | I have something I'd like to discuss | 15:17 |
| anteaya | asselin: please go ahead | 15:17 |
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| asselin | for 3rd party ci, to help increase stability of these systems, I'd like to propose having these use released versions of the tools (e.g. zuul, nodepool, jjb) | 15:18 |
| asselin | currently they're all on master | 15:18 |
| anteaya | I have no objection | 15:19 |
| anteaya | since we don't have any way of monitoring or enforcing this | 15:19 |
| anteaya | how about we say something to the effect of released versions are supported | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | then it isn't a requirement | 15:20 |
| Swanson | asselin, That would be good. I've found being on master makes ones life a living hell. (Relatively speaking.) | 15:20 |
| anteaya | but simply our expectation should they come into channels with support expectations | 15:20 |
| anteaya | asselin: where would you like to propose this? | 15:21 |
| asselin | currently, the instructions and setup are using master. I'd thinking the 'default' should be latest released version, with option to use master. | 15:21 |
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| asselin | I can write a spec, but wanted to get some initial feedback | 15:21 |
| anteaya | asselin: that sounds reasonable to me | 15:21 |
| anteaya | I don't know as a spec is necessary | 15:21 |
| anteaya | do others feel a spec is necessary? | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | I think offering patches to documentation and the defaults should be sufficient | 15:22 |
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| Swanson | anteaya, +1 | 15:22 |
| anteaya | and we can post the infra mailing list once the patches are up | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | so if folks feel strongly they can express themselves in review | 15:22 |
| asselin | ok, let's do that first. | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | I think that is the more expedious way to go | 15:23 |
| asselin | ok, thanks for the feedback. | 15:23 |
| anteaya | I don't think we have any developer agreement here that we might potentially be breaking by making latest the default | 15:23 |
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| anteaya | thanks for offering the topic | 15:23 |
| anteaya | I think it will certainly help with support | 15:24 |
| anteaya | any more comments on this item? | 15:24 |
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| anteaya | any objection to me closing the meeting? | 15:24 |
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| asselin | thanks anteaya | 15:25 |
| Swanson | nope. | 15:25 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:25 |
| anteaya | I appreciate your kind attendance and participation | 15:25 |
| anteaya | lennyb: will be chairing this slot next week, thanks again lennyb | 15:25 |
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| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 28 15:25:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-03-28-15.00.html | 15:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-03-28-15.00.txt | 15:25 |
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| adam_g | #startmeeting astara | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 28 18:00:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| adam_g | o/ | 18:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'astara' | 18:00 |
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| adam_g | ping markmcclain elo rods ryanpetrello | 18:00 |
| markmcclain | hi | 18:00 |
| elo | hello | 18:00 |
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| adam_g | hiya phil_h | 18:01 |
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| phil_h | hey | 18:01 |
| adam_g | #topic mitaka development | 18:01 |
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| adam_g | so we tagged rc1 across the repos last week | 18:01 |
| adam_g | next week is release week so this week is our last chance to catch any critical bugs | 18:02 |
| adam_g | if you find any please tag them as mitaka-rc-potential in LP and ping me | 18:02 |
| adam_g | looking through our bugs this morning it looks like one bug slipped by us in the run up to RC1 | 18:02 |
| adam_g | https://bugs.launchpad.net/astara/+bug/1558577 | 18:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1558577 in Astara "Permission denied on /etc/nginx/sites-enabled in loadbalancer appliance" [Critical,New] | 18:02 |
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| adam_g | im looking into that now and will likely spin an RC2 if the bug confirms | 18:02 |
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| markmcclain | fortunately should be small fix | 18:03 |
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| adam_g | also unfortunately, i believe there are some release notes changes i should make for the mitaka branch before we release, so i expect a RC2 this week | 18:03 |
| adam_g | anyone else have any potential bugs to bring up that we should be tracking this week? | 18:04 |
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| markmcclain | have some tweaks to VPN config, but nothing critical | 18:05 |
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| elo | nothing on my end | 18:06 |
| adam_g | ok cool | 18:07 |
| adam_g | we should be in good shape for releasing next week then | 18:07 |
| adam_g | #topic newton development + summit | 18:07 |
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| adam_g | so in addition to our contributor meet up time that we have reserved for friday, we've been alloted a ~1hr fishbowl session earlier in the wek | 18:08 |
| adam_g | i was thinking we can use this time together to explore where we go with the BYONF / SFC work that went into the mitaka release | 18:08 |
| markmcclain | good idea... for style of session | 18:09 |
| adam_g | i think it gives us a good framework where we can begin to explore how we bring NFV/SFC use cases into neutron-proper | 18:09 |
| adam_g | we'll likely get the attention of some other teams so it'd be good brainstorming session | 18:09 |
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| adam_g | if anyone else has any other ideas for a topic to discuss during the fishbowl, dont hesitate to mention them | 18:09 |
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| adam_g | also now is a good time to begin thinkin about topics for blueprints we wan to pursue this coming dev cycle, so begin doing that! maybe next week we can start throwing them into an etherpad | 18:11 |
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| markmcclain | yeah was looking at the mitaka etherpad to see which items we had listed as stretch items we might want to consider | 18:12 |
| adam_g | oh also | 18:12 |
| adam_g | im looking at the tentative summit schedule | 18:12 |
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| adam_g | looks like our fishbowl is scheduled for 5PM on thursday | 18:12 |
| phil_h | Not great but you can't drive anywhere in Austin at 5 PM anyway!!! | 18:13 |
| adam_g | ha | 18:14 |
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| phil_h | almost makes San Francisco traffic look goode!!! | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | #topic open discussion | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | ive been trying to debug the gate failure thats been cropping up more and more | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | it looks like the appliance is taking a really long time to process config updates in some cases | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | im investigating just bumping timeouts insanely high for running the gate | 18:15 |
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| adam_g | this'll mean we (by default) jack the appliance's gunicorn worker timeout to something really, and always enforce the timeout client-side via the currentl configurable setting | 18:16 |
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| markmcclain | make sense, but I thought that test failed in the gate too | 18:17 |
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| adam_g | markmcclain, i need to debug that further not 100% sure its getting set correctly | 18:18 |
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| adam_g | ok, well unless anyone has anything else we can call it | 18:20 |
| phil_h | If anyone cares I am working on an Ansible playbook to install Astara | 18:20 |
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| adam_g | phil_h, oh cool | 18:20 |
| adam_g | phil_h, you might want to sync up with elo i think he was doing some similar work at some point recently | 18:20 |
| phil_h | I'll keep you posted on the progress - will do | 18:21 |
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| adam_g | cool | 18:21 |
| adam_g | ok well, tty all in #openstack-astara | 18:21 |
| adam_g | #endmeeting | 18:21 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 28 18:21:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:21 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-03-28-18.00.html | 18:21 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-03-28-18.00.txt | 18:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-03-28-18.00.log.html | 18:21 |
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| emagana | testing!! | 18:59 |
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| emagana | Do we have people around for the User Committee meeting? | 19:00 |
| noggin143_ | yes | 19:00 |
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| maishsk | I am here | 19:01 |
| emagana | #startmeeting uc | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Mar 28 19:01:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is emagana. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| emagana | Hello maishsk and noggin143_ | 19:01 |
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| emagana | Do we have more people around? | 19:01 |
| maishsk | o/ | 19:02 |
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| carolbarrett | Hi | 19:02 |
| emagana | hi carolbarrett | 19:02 |
| emagana | let's start the topics.. | 19:02 |
| emagana | #topic User Survey analysis | 19:03 |
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| emagana | Heidi sent last call for comments on the draft | 19:03 |
| emagana | It seems that a bunch of comments and suggestions have been included | 19:03 |
| emagana | and the analysis team is preparing the final version. | 19:04 |
| emagana | Any questions on this topic? | 19:04 |
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| carolbarrett | not from me - I think it's going to be a great info for the community | 19:05 |
| emagana | ok, moving on | 19:06 |
| emagana | #topic Operators recognition next steps | 19:06 |
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| emagana | This is a good one! | 19:06 |
| emagana | I am getting confused even myself. | 19:06 |
| maishsk | :) | 19:07 |
| emagana | maishsk prepared a draft to be sent based on the action items from the last meeting | 19:07 |
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| maishsk | actuall it was not me - but shamail | 19:07 |
| emagana | but seems to be another proposal for tomorrow's meeting with the board. | 19:07 |
| emagana | correct!... shamail my bad! | 19:07 |
| emagana | is shamail around? | 19:08 |
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| noggin143_ | I'll propose that this should be a topic for the nonATC working group | 19:08 |
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| emagana | noggin143_: make sense. | 19:09 |
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| emagana | When is the next IRc meeting for the nonATC WG? | 19:09 |
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| emagana | ohh actually is TBD. | 19:10 |
| emagana | #action moving the Ops recognition topic to nonATC WG meeting | 19:10 |
| emagana | anything on this topic then? | 19:11 |
| noggin143_ | agreed with moving to the nonATC WG | 19:11 |
| maishsk | yep one questions | 19:12 |
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| emagana | maishsk: go ahead! | 19:12 |
| maishsk | noggin143: you mentioned in the thread that there will be different views on the non-ATC participation in the TC elections (if and when that ever happens) | 19:12 |
| maishsk | what is the UC’s view on that matter ? | 19:12 |
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| emagana | maishsk: I am probably the only one UC member in this meeting but I am not sure I can answer that question in behalf of jproulx and sheilla | 19:15 |
| noggin143_ | I suspect there may be some disagreements with respect to ATC and non-ATC voting for the TC | 19:15 |
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| maishsk | I assume so | 19:16 |
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| emagana | I think we could cover that as well during the WG meeting | 19:17 |
| maishsk | fine by me :) | 19:17 |
| emagana | I will move to the next topic | 19:17 |
| emagana | #topic where we want to take the UC and what we can change | 19:17 |
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| emagana | Ok, I really think we should make aware to everybody how important the UC is and the need for their support and participation | 19:18 |
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| emagana | and therefore we will have a bigger audience on these meetings | 19:19 |
| emagana | but the only way to show that is by acting.. and showing results | 19:19 |
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| emagana | for instance, the nonATC WG hopefully we will be able to deliver a good plan for the recognition and all that started here in the UC | 19:20 |
| emagana | thoughts? | 19:20 |
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| emagana | it seems that we are going to have a short meeting... :-) | 19:22 |
| maishsk | ;) | 19:22 |
| carolbarrett | emagana: I agree the UC is an important element of our community. Are there goals that we would want to take for the Newton development cycle that would help to focus on deliverables and guide new attendees? | 19:22 |
| emagana | I just came back from vacations.. I dont mind! | 19:22 |
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| maishsk | I think that one of the goals that the UC should try and achieve is to expand their circle of influence | 19:23 |
| maishsk | and responsibilities | 19:23 |
| emagana | carolbarrett: I discussed with my UC member peers and we want to re-define the UC goals | 19:23 |
| carolbarrett | maishsk: what would be 1 or 2 actions that you think of around this? | 19:23 |
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| carolbarrett | emagana: Do you have a plan to move that forward? | 19:24 |
| maishsk | #1 make binding resolutions - and not just act as an advisory body | 19:24 |
| emagana | after that we would like to ask to ourselves if the size of the team should be the same or not | 19:25 |
| emagana | carolbarrett: we will prepar a draft first and share with the community for feedback | 19:25 |
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| carolbarrett | emagana: is the draft being created via these meetings or are the 3 UC leaders working on the draft and then bring into here? | 19:26 |
| emagana | when, well I just came back from some time off which means I need to review it with the rest of the team and provide a formal update | 19:26 |
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| carolbarrett | emagana: sounds good | 19:27 |
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| emagana | carolbarrett: the later | 19:27 |
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| emagana | but it will be open for everybody to provide feedback | 19:28 |
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| carolbarrett | Once the new charter is in place, I think it would be good to define a couple of work streams for the next dvelopment cycle. | 19:28 |
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| emagana | it is just to start with something.. Actually for the next meeting we should have a good draft | 19:28 |
| emagana | #action emagana make sure to have the draft with the goals for the UC ready and shared before the next Uc meeting | 19:29 |
| carolbarrett | emagana: Will that require Board approval? | 19:29 |
| emagana | carolbarrett: good question. I will assume that Yes, it will. | 19:30 |
| carolbarrett | Would the target be to review and get approval at the Austin Board meeting next month? | 19:31 |
| emagana | carolbarrett: Yes! | 19:31 |
| carolbarrett | excellent! | 19:31 |
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| noggin143_ | The combined UC/TC/board afternoon is a good place to raise scope related topics | 19:32 |
| carolbarrett | Will there be a working group session at the Summit? If so, would we want to use some of that time to define work streams for the Newton cycle? | 19:32 |
| emagana | noggin143_: great! Is that already a planned session? | 19:32 |
| carolbarrett | After the charter is approved? | 19:33 |
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| noggin143_ | The board meeting on the Sunday has two parts, one for the board and another for a combined UC/TC/board meeting | 19:33 |
| emagana | carolbarrett: working group session? | 19:33 |
| carolbarrett | sorry - meant UC working session | 19:34 |
| emagana | noggin143_: ohhh I will miss that because I could not arrive to Austin on Saturday! :-( | 19:34 |
| carolbarrett | noggin143_: Good point, We could reach out to Alan Clark and request a slot on the agenda | 19:34 |
| noggin143_ | The agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/24Apr2016BoardMeeting | 19:34 |
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| carolbarrett | emagana: Are any of the other UC leaders going to be there on Sunday? | 19:35 |
| emagana | carolbarrett: I do not know. I will check with them | 19:35 |
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| emagana | #action emagana to chat with sheila and john on attending the Board Meeting on August 24th | 19:36 |
| emagana | I will try to change my travel plans but it will be hard. | 19:36 |
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| noggin143_ | If there are no UC representatives, I can give the UC input if needed | 19:37 |
| noggin143_ | but it would be best to have a UC member there | 19:37 |
| carolbarrett | +1 | 19:38 |
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| emagana | will do my best.. | 19:39 |
| emagana | ;-) | 19:39 |
| carolbarrett | Looks like there is a User Committee WG meeting on Wednesday | 19:39 |
| emagana | ok, I really do not have anything else in mind for the meeting. | 19:39 |
| emagana | carolbarrett: I think tom saved that spot for us | 19:39 |
| carolbarrett | I wonder if we should start an etherpad for planning the agenda? | 19:40 |
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| emagana | carolbarrett: good idea.. | 19:41 |
| emagana | do you want to go ahead? | 19:41 |
| emagana | I can also do it. | 19:41 |
| carolbarrett | sure - I can do it. | 19:41 |
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| emagana | carolbarrett: Thanks! | 19:42 |
| carolbarrett | I can put a link to it off of this wiki page: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/UserCommittee | 19:42 |
| carolbarrett | Or is there a better location? | 19:42 |
| carolbarrett | And send a link on the ML | 19:43 |
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| emagana | both will work! | 19:43 |
| emagana | ;-) | 19:43 |
| carolbarrett | OK - will do. | 19:44 |
| emagana | #action carolbarrett create an etherpad to plan the UC meeting in Austin | 19:44 |
| carolbarrett | thanks | 19:45 |
| emagana | Thank you all! | 19:45 |
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| emagana | anything else? | 19:45 |
| carolbarrett | nothing from me | 19:45 |
| emagana | noggin143_: any topic? | 19:46 |
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| emagana | all right.. have a great one! | 19:46 |
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| emagana | #endmeeting | 19:46 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Mar 28 19:46:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-03-28-19.01.html | 19:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-03-28-19.01.txt | 19:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-03-28-19.01.log.html | 19:46 |
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