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boris-42#startmeeting Rally14:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Oct 19 14:00:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is boris-42. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)"14:00
boris-42YOYOYO14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rally'14:00
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boris-42ping 4everybody14:01
idegtiarovhi!14:01
albertwhello14:01
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yfriedboris-42: hey14:01
boris-42yfried: hi there14:01
boris-42amaretskiy: andreykurilin ping14:01
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amaretskiyhi14:01
ikhudoshynщ.14:02
andreykurilin\o/14:02
rvasiletso/14:02
ikhudoshyno/14:02
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redixinZdravo!14:02
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boris-42Piet: idegtiarov14:02
boris-42ping idegtiarov14:02
idegtiarovi'm here14:02
boris-42Piet: sorry*14:02
boris-42stpierre: ping14:03
ylobankovhi14:03
stpierreboris-42: yo14:03
boris-42stpierre: u nice that you are here14:03
boris-42=)14:03
idegtiarovmy question is can we have optional parameter for set resource_id manual for our samples in context?14:03
idegtiarovor it should be random14:04
boris-42idegtiarov: wait wait14:04
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boris-42=)14:04
boris-42#topic idegtiarov] Mandatory demand for unique resources names in Ceilometer context. Ceilometer team is interested to have optional possibility to set resources names manually.14:04
*** openstack changes topic to "idegtiarov] Mandatory demand for unique resources names in Ceilometer context. Ceilometer team is interested to have optional possibility to set resources names manually. (Meeting topic: Rally)"14:04
boris-42okay now your turn14:04
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idegtiarovones more! :) my question is can we have optional parameter for set resource_id manual for our samples in context?14:04
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idegtiarovor it should be random14:04
boris-42idegtiarov: resource_id ?14:05
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idegtiarovyes14:05
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idegtiarovour aim is to fill database and measure get requests with same resource_id in query14:06
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idegtiarovI mean fill database step by step with rally context creation14:06
boris-42idegtiarov: resource must be deleted after the load is done14:06
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boris-42idegtiarov: this must happen no matter what is the purpouse of testing14:06
boris-42idegtiarov: otherwise operators will find me by my IP address and kill14:07
boris-42=)14:07
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idegtiarovcontext will be deleted but we will have all data in databese after test is finish or Ive missed something?14:07
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boris-42idegtiarov: hm resources created by Rally should be deleted by Rally14:08
boris-42idegtiarov: that is why we are forcing the way how things are named so we will be able to delete them in 100% cases no matter what happend14:08
idegtiarovyep, but ceilometer collected data what about that data14:08
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boris-42idegtiarov: so as far as I understand rally won't touch it14:09
idegtiarovthat it, and are interested to measure ceilometer performance to get that collected data14:10
boris-42stpierre: are you here ^14:10
stpierreyeah14:10
idegtiarovand for that case we need to collect data with certain reaource_id14:10
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boris-42idegtiarov: so what we are working on is extending the scenario output14:11
stpierrethis seems to me like it subverts an important part of rally cleanup in order to depend on a side-effect of rally to fill up the database14:11
boris-42idegtiarov: so you will be able to put any information from scenario to reports14:11
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stpierreit seems to me that, in the best of all possible worlds, rally *would* delete the data that ceilometer collected during the rally run; IMO that's a cleanup bug. so depending on that isn't a great idea, and breaking rally cleanup to depend on it is an even worse idea14:12
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idegtiarovamiright that we a interested in rally side-effect! ))))14:13
boris-42stpierre: idegtiarov btw is it possible to delete it?14:13
boris-42I mean collected data from ceilometer14:13
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boris-42as far as I remember no14:13
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boris-42idegtiarov: so why you can't collect this data during the scenario run /14:13
idegtiarovboris-42, not with ceilometer-api14:13
idegtiarovbut it could be done using Mongo TTL feature14:14
stpierreotoh, if a future version of the ceilometer API added the ability to purge collected data, i think rally would want to use it. that's obviously speculation, but it's still breaking an important feature of rally in order to depend on an unwanted (but currently necessary) side-effect of rally14:15
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boris-42idegtiarov: so can we collect required data in rally scenario?14:16
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boris-42idegtiarov: instead of using this side effect?14:16
idegtiarovas i mentioned we are interested to measure ceilometer performance depends on database fulfill so we create 100k samples in one test generate statistics request14:16
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idegtiarovafter that create new 300k samples and repeat request14:16
idegtiarovand so on14:17
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boris-42what request14:17
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boris-42?14:17
stpierrei think you should just create 400k samples, instead of using leftover data in subsequent rally runs14:17
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boris-42idegtiarov: I mean what request you run after creating N samples?14:18
stpierreIMO a rally run should be completely self-contained, not dependent on out-of-band setup (like a previous rally run)14:18
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oanufrievhi all14:18
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idegtiarovwe can write data from zero to required value if we would be able to cleann database after test, but our tests will go for hours14:19
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boris-42idegtiarov: so what request do you run please say me14:21
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boris-42idegtiarov: stpierre there is another way to implement this (as we already merge base for new task format)14:21
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boris-42idegtiarov: stpierre after we get new DB models we will be able to run any amount of sceanrios one by one in single context14:21
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stpierrethat would seem to a perfect solution to this14:22
idegtiarovis it possible to have optional resource_id in ceilometer context untill rally will be able to clean database?14:22
boris-42idegtiarov: rally won't be able to cleanup database (imho this should be covered by Ceilometer API)14:23
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boris-42idegtiarov: let's discuss this after meeting14:23
idegtiarovgot it14:23
idegtiarovok14:23
boris-42idegtiarov: I need to get more in context of this stuff14:23
idegtiarovthanks14:23
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boris-42idegtiarov: in any case we will find something that will work for you14:24
idegtiarovthanks a lot14:24
boris-42idegtiarov: btw are any plans in ceilometer related to such kind of API?14:25
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boris-42okay in any case let's move to next topic14:25
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boris-42#topic  [rvasilets] New Rally dashboard - https://goo.gl/BcCAkU https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235957/14:26
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boris-42rvasilets: ping14:26
rvasiletsHi I'm working on the new Rally dash board and if you interested in some user cases please tell me about this here is WIP link of the new dashboard https://goo.gl/BcCAkU After it would be finished I will announce it eom14:26
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boris-42rvasilets: You are a reviewer, but haven't voted in the current revision14:27
boris-42rvasilets: why this topic is on top?14:27
boris-42rvasilets: I have like 30 patches14:27
boris-42rvasilets: and it doesn't make any sesnse for me14:27
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rvasiletsboris-42, The order of topics was suggested by your earlier. Feel free to request the new order14:28
stpierrervasilets: i get an error on the new dashboard: "limit of 10 queries"14:28
boris-42rvasilets: I didn't suggest that point14:29
boris-42rvasilets: at all14:29
rvasiletsboris-42, ok. So you don't want to see this section?14:29
boris-42rvasilets: yep14:29
boris-42rvasilets: it's useless14:29
stpierrei'm not sure that section is really that useful, since i can already easily scan through the "Incoming reviews" section of My Changes and see which ones are bold14:29
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boris-42stpierre: or just read mailing box14:30
rvasiletsstpierre, I don't have any errors. Do other have it?14:30
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boris-42stpierre: or just open base page14:30
stpierreboris-42: only suckers read email :)14:30
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boris-42stpierre: lool14:30
albertwsame error here 'limit of 10 queries'14:30
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boris-42rvasilets: I will just remove that new ueless panel14:31
boris-42rvasilets: maybe people won't face the issue with limit of 10 queries14:31
rvasiletsboris-42, ok14:31
rvasiletsstpierre, albertw strange I don't see any reason for that14:31
boris-42rvasilets: btw what is critical for next release?14:31
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rvasiletsas earlier Critical are starred by you AND me. Important starred by you OR me.14:32
boris-42rvasilets: why you?14:33
boris-42rvasilets: I mean important14:33
rvasiletsboris-42, I just swap mdubov with me.14:33
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boris-42rvasilets: so let's just left one critical for next release14:33
boris-42rvasilets: important should be removed14:33
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boris-42rvasilets: as well as need feedback14:34
rvasiletsboris-42, ok14:34
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rvasiletsboris-42, Needs Feedback (Changes older than 5 days that have not been reviewed by anyone) this section you want to remove too?14:34
boris-42rvasilets: yep14:34
rvasiletsboris-42, ok14:34
boris-42rvasilets: it's better to sort ready for review patches in order first oldest14:35
rvasiletsboris-42, just I found it interesting14:35
boris-42rvasilets: when you have on one page more then 200 links it becomes useless14:35
rvasiletsboris-42, if there would be possibility to sort by age I wiil do it14:35
rvasiletsok14:35
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boris-42rvasilets: in any case list should be short as possible14:36
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rvasiletsthere is a limit)14:36
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rvasiletswe could set the limit in any section14:36
boris-42okay let's move to the next topic14:36
boris-42rvasilets: no no limit14:37
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boris-42rvasilets: just remove useless sections14:37
boris-42=)14:37
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boris-42#topic stpierre] Bug (?) in @types processing of images created by context14:37
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rvasiletsboris-42, ok14:37
boris-42hey there stpierre14:37
boris-42sooo14:37
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stpierrebasically, if you create an image in the images context and try to use it as an argument to a scenario, it passes validation just fine, but when the @types decorator tries to resolve it, it blows up14:37
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stpierre@types.set(), that is14:38
boris-42stpierre: I dislike that code overall14:38
stpierreand i don't know how to solve this in an elegant way14:38
boris-42stpierre: so https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/task/types.py#L5614:40
boris-42stpierre: this is the problem14:40
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stpierreyeah, basically14:40
boris-42stpierre: and another one problem is that types are not plugins14:40
boris-42stpierre: and this is even bigger problem because it blocks us from removing openstack from Rally framework14:41
boris-42stpierre: so typically there are 3 places that binds us to openstack14:41
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stpierreooh :/14:41
boris-42stpierre: 1) rally deployment 2) rally task types 3) rally task validation14:41
stpierreso basically this images bug is just the tip of the iceberg14:41
boris-42stpierre: yyeeeep14:41
boris-42stpierre: I removed bunch of dependcies between 0.0.4->0.1. switch14:42
stpierreit sounds like what we need is a spec laying out a new way to do types, that is both pluggable, and supports types that are resolved once per subtask, or once per iteration. does that sound correct?14:42
boris-42stpierre: but these 3 still have to be adrressed14:42
boris-42stpierre: types should be resolved always per subtask14:42
stpierre'cause we can resolve flavors, e.g., once per subtask, since a flavor exists globally; but images need to be resolved on every iteration, using the context for that iteration, to avoid this bug14:42
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stpierreokay, how can we do that with images?14:43
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boris-42stpierre: so the whole idea of types was to resolve the things before load starts14:43
stpierresay the context has created three tenants, and three identically-named images, one per tenant. how can we hand off a single image id to the runner and expect it to work?14:43
boris-42stpierre: so you won't get overhead of image list on each iteration where you don't expect it14:43
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stpierrei understand that we don't want the overhead, but unless we make all images public it just plain won't work14:44
boris-42stpierre: so there different ways to resolve this14:44
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boris-42stpierre: that's not true14:44
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boris-42stpierre: you can do image list from all users in context and store somewhere14:44
boris-42stpierre: for example in context_obj14:44
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boris-42stpierre: after that use this infromation before u run scenario iteration14:44
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boris-42stpierre: current implementation sucks but it doesn't mean that there is no better way to handle the stuff14:45
stpierreokay, so you end up doing all possible types resolutions before the subtask starts, and just cache it. that makes sense. of course we still need support for an action run before each iteration then, it's just a different action14:45
boris-42stpierre: I am talking about different way to handle types14:45
stpierreso am i14:45
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boris-42stpierre: so just implement better mechanism that won't depend on openstack14:46
stpierreright, that's the first step, but there's more to it than just that.14:46
stpierreanyhow, i'll write up a spec and we can discuss the nitty-gritty details then14:46
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stpierrety14:47
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boris-42stpierre: heh that will be hard one spec14:47
boris-42okay let's move to the next topic14:48
boris-42#topic [amaretskiy] plans and status for upcoming changes in output charts in HTML report14:48
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amaretskiythere are plans to improve scenario output charts a lot14:48
amaretskiycurrently we have single chart14:48
amaretskiybut the idea is to have arbitrary number of additive (one value per iteration) charts14:49
amaretskiyand also14:49
amaretskiyhave complete charts from each iteration14:49
amaretskiyso there will be 2 tabs14:49
boris-42amaretskiy: are you going to propose spec  ?14:50
amaretskiyyes14:50
boris-42amaretskiy: or you will just work on the code/14:50
amaretskiysince this affects scenario results schema14:50
amaretskiythe first step is having a spec14:50
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amaretskiythat is what I'm  working on right now14:50
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amaretskiyI believe the spec will be proposed tomorrow14:51
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amaretskiyeom14:51
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boris-42amaretskiy: okay great14:51
boris-42amaretskiy: please make sure that you are aligned with pboldin14:51
boris-42#topic  [ikhudoshyn] Distributed load generation - spec  - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236979/14:52
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ikhudoshynhi14:52
ikhudoshynthere is ongoning work to design subj14:52
ikhudoshynwe want to run rally on several nodes in order to increase amount of load we could generate14:53
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ikhudoshynby the link there is a patch (not ready yet) with the spec14:53
ikhudoshynit does not contain any impl details but already describes the main topics and action items14:54
ikhudoshynin the nearest future I'm to add ac ouple diagrams and imp details14:54
boris-42шikhudoshyn ok great14:54
boris-42stpierre: ^ btw14:55
boris-42ikhudoshyn: btw don't forget about part related to the sending context14:55
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boris-42ikhudoshyn: and making unique iterations number14:55
ikhudoshynboris-42: sure14:55
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ikhudoshynany questions anybody?14:56
amaretskiyno14:56
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boris-42not yet=)14:56
ikhudoshyngood))14:57
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boris-42okay let's end meeting14:58
ikhudoshynlooks like we r done, just in time14:58
boris-42see you guys14:58
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boris-42#endmeeting14:58
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mmedvede#startmeeting third-party15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Oct 19 15:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mmedvede. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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mmedvedehi, anybody here for third-party meeting?15:00
mmedvedeI am sitting in today for anteaya15:00
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mmedvedehey asselin_15:02
asselin_good morning15:02
mmedvedehow are things with your CI?15:03
asselin_mmedvede, I changed teams, so that work is being done now by cbader15:04
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mmedvedeasselin_: congratulations! Are you still working with OpenStack?15:05
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asselin_mmedvede, thanks, yes15:05
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cbadermmedvede, It is going well had issue with path variable filed defect on it.15:06
cbadermmedvede, looks like it is fixed tests are passing now.15:06
asselin_and still working on common ci. I'll be helping out cbader, although hopefully the updated docs are sufficient for him to get it working on his own.15:06
mmedvedehi cbader15:06
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asselin_good morning cbader15:06
mmedvedecbader: do you have a link to defect? maybe someone else is affected15:07
cbadergood morning asselin and mmedvede15:07
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qeasHi guys. I have a problem running CI for our NFS driver. test_volume_crud_with_volume_type_and_extra_specs fails without any tracebacks in logs, I can't figure out what's wrong. http://paste.openstack.org/show/476707/ this is basicly all the info I am getting from tox, can anyone help me with it?15:08
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asselin_qeas, you should look at the screen c-vol logs15:09
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qeasasselin_ : no errors there15:09
qeasaswell as in any other logs15:10
mmedvedehi qeas, there should be something. Did you try grepping all logs for the volume id?15:10
qeasthat is my biggest concern15:10
qeasyep15:10
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qeasgrep Traceback /opt/stack/screen-logs/*15:10
qeasnothing15:10
qeasoh15:11
asselin_qeas, are the logs public?15:11
qeasdidn't try for volume ifd15:11
qeasid*15:11
cbadermmedvede, HCD-564, the closed it saying not issue but someone fix it since my tests are now passing with correct path to pypi being passed, it was hard coded by build-cfg.sh to /snapshot-2015-10-12.15:11
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qeasnot really, I will try grepping for id, maybe will find something15:11
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asselin_cbader, HCD is not related to upstream openstack, right?15:12
mmedvedeqeas: if you get a hit on id, then try using associated request-id and trace the request across the logs15:12
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cbaderasselin, yes I thinks so.15:13
mmedvedecbader: so the defect internal for you :) I thought you referred to something upstream15:13
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cbadermmedvede, not is was not upstream sorry new to this thread.15:14
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qeasmmedvede : will try that, thanks for the idea15:14
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mmedvedecbader: no worries15:15
mmedvedecbader: many times third-party CI's are affected by changes upstream. Then it helps to share15:15
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asselin_qeas, if the logs are available publicly, we can help diagnose. Otherwise that stacktrace is just tempest failing. But the true error is somewhere in the screen log files15:16
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asselin_the c-* log files are for cinder and you can look there. You should be able to trace the call via tempest IDs from the api to the scheduler to the volume service15:16
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asselin_and in some cases, you need to go to the nova logs (for volume attaches and detaches) although the test case you mentioned doesn't seem related to that15:17
cbadermmedvede, yes thank you for the help15:17
qeasasselin_: Logs aren't anywhere public right now, but I can post them15:18
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qeasor actually I am wrong, I do have them public http://140.174.232.106/master/ns_nfs/2015.10.16-15:13:15/ please take a look and tell me if you find anything useful15:20
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mmedvedeqeas: thank you. I'll take a peak15:22
qeasmmedvede: thanks a lot15:22
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mmedvedeanything else on this topic?15:23
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mmedvedeanybody has something else to discuss today?15:25
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asselin_qeas, weird I don't see the requests anywhere....let's take it offline15:26
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asselin_qeas, as a side note, setting up a log server like openstack helps to navigate the log files.15:27
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eantyshevHello! What is the current 'entry point' instruction to create third-party CI? Is https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing information relevant?15:28
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asselin_eantyshev, please use this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227584/15:28
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asselin_eantyshev, that repo should still work, but will be deprecated very soon, replaced by ^^15:29
mmedvede#link new documentation for setting up third-party CI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227584/15:29
asselin_qeas, please take a look at that too ^^15:30
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eantyshevasselin_: Thanks a lot!15:30
mmedvedeasselin_: it is your link to review :)15:30
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qeasasselin_ : didn't really understand about the log server, how should I do it correctly?15:31
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mmedvedeqeas: OpenStack infrastructure uses devstack-gate scripts to run their tests, and it uploads fairly standard set of artifacts to logserver15:32
asselin_qeas, I don't have official upstream docs yet, but this script should work: https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing/blob/master/puppet/install_log_server.sh15:32
asselin_qeas, it uses os-loganalyze which helps filter log files by log level, adds color, etc.15:33
mmedvede#link devstack-gate https://github.com/openstack-infra/devstack-gate15:33
qeasasselin_, mmedvede : ok thanks, will try that15:34
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mmedvedeqeas: try asselin_ 's suggestion first15:35
qeasdid you find anything in my logs?15:35
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asselin_qeas, I couldn't trace the request even.....very strange.15:36
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mmedvedeqeas: I can see the request showing up in c-api.log15:37
qeasasselin_: that's what bugs me the most. Grepping volume id only showed c-api and c-sch logs, nothing in c-vol15:37
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mmedvedeqeas: in the log, it says "No valid host was found" when it tries to create volume15:40
mmedvedeqeas: we can take it offline15:41
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qeasmmedvede: hmm, so it looks like scheduler is trying to find a host with some specs that don't match the host15:42
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mmedvedeqeas: hard to tell without digging further. grep for req-78d47268-58b3-4fcb-bd21-6761dc823e39 in the logs you linked15:43
qeasmmedvede: maybe I missed some new specs that were added for NFS ?15:43
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qeasmmedvede: the thing is that error never occurred before, we always passed nfs tests successfully15:44
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qeasmmedvede: so I thought maybe it was because of some new changes to devstack15:45
asselin_qeas, it might also be a new test case15:45
mmedvedeqeas: I would recommend to look for changes then. If you have the exact moment when you started failing, use it and check changes in projects that could affect you15:45
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qeasasselin_: I don't think it's new http://140.174.232.106/master/ns_nfs/2015.10.06-10:32:01 , you can see our driver pass it here a month and a half ago15:48
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qeasasselin_: oh sorry, actually it was just half a month ago15:50
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mmedvedeqeas: looking through errors further, it seems your error is caused by nova-scheduler not being able to get any valid hosts because. One of filters returns "extra_spec requirement 'iSCSI' does not match 'NFS'"15:50
qeasmmedvede: but why is it looking for iSCSI ?15:51
mmedvedeqeas: not question to me15:51
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mmedvedeasselin_: do you know a good place to ask? e.g. irc channel?15:52
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asselin_perhaps the cinder channel is best15:53
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qeasmmedvede: this is very strange:  u'extra_specs': {u'vendor_name': u'Nexenta', u'storage_protocol': u'iSCSI'} , not sure why it passes wrong storage protocol, but this gives me an idea on where to look at15:54
qeasmmedvede: thanks a lot for your help15:54
mmedvedeqeas: your welcome. That is as far as I can take you15:55
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qeasmmedvede:  I guess I will figure it out from here. thanks again15:56
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mmedvedeall right, 5 minutes left. Anything else here? speak up15:57
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asselin_next week is the summit, mmedvede will you be chairing again?15:57
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mmedvedeasselin_: not sure. I can if necessary15:58
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mmedvedeprobably would be a short meeting anyway :)15:58
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asselin_yes15:58
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mmedvedehave fun at summit, who is going15:59
mmedvedethat's a wrap then, thanks for attending!15:59
mmedvede#endmeeting15:59
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asselin_thanks mmedvede15:59
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matjazp#startmeeting training-guides17:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Oct 19 17:01:11 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:01
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matjazphey all17:01
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matjazpanyone not packing stuff for Tokyo?17:01
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matjazpyeah, I guess it was a bit optimistic to expect big attendance on this week's meeting :)17:05
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matjazp#info because of the Summit, this and next week's Training guides meetings will be canceled17:07
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matjazp#info next meeting is scheduled for 9/Nov/201517:08
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matjazp#endmeeting17:09
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markmcclain#startmeeting Astara18:01
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markmcclainping: davidlenwell, adam_g, elo, ryanpetrello18:01
davidlenwello/18:01
* markmcclain expects light turnout this week18:02
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ryanpetrelloo/-ish18:02
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markmcclainadam_g: is offline today so I'm covering18:02
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markmcclainRCs were tagged last week and we'll make our first release this week to coincide with Liberty cycle18:03
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markmcclain#info repos are in new location after the stackforge retirement18:03
markmcclainThe Akanda repos moved to the openstack namespace over the weekend. They will be renamed to Astara post Tokyo18:04
markmcclainmake sure to update your git remotes and local.conf settings18:04
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davidlenwellquestion.. should they have shown up under https://github.com/openstack/ yet?18:05
markmcclainyeah...18:05
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markmcclainhttps://github.com/openstack/akanda-rug18:06
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markmcclainworks for me18:06
davidlenwelloh.. I was looking for astara18:06
davidlenwellnow I get it18:06
elosame here I was looking for astara18:06
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markmcclainyeah that rename won't happen until after Tokyo.  The stackforge retirement was a big job for -infra and they asked us to move in steps.18:06
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markmcclain#topic Bugs18:07
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davidlenwellcooll thanks for clarifying18:07
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markmcclain#link https://github.com/openstack/akanda-rug New LP project18:07
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markmcclain#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/astara new LP project18:08
markmcclainThe old project was a big messy, so adam_g has been in the process of moving active bugs over transferring the old pieces over18:08
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markmcclainPlease file any critical bugs at teh new home18:08
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markmcclainAny bugs to discuss?18:09
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davidlenwellwe should take a pass a lot of the docs before the summit.. I noticed ...18:10
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davidlenwellthat one of those bugs is that the appliance building doc is out of date/confusing18:10
markmcclainagreed18:11
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davidlenwellwant me to take a first pass at that?18:11
markmcclaindavidlenwell: that would be awesome18:11
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* davidlenwell is on it!18:12
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markmcclainOk..I have not found any other bugs at the moment, but am continuing to test18:12
markmcclain#topic Mitaka Design Summit18:13
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markmcclainlater this week, I think we coordinate via the ML and select a time for folks to meet up at the design summit and discuss the plans for the next cycles18:13
markmcclain#topic Open Discussion18:14
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davidlenwellsounds good18:14
markmcclainI know lots of folks are out, so will keep this meeting short18:14
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markmcclainany other open items?18:14
davidlenwellI don't think so..18:15
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markmcclainok... keep up the testing and talk to everyone on IRC, ML and see everyone next week in Tokyo18:15
markmcclain#endmeeting18:15
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PietSorry I'm late20:02
PietIs the PM workgroup or am I at the wrong party?20:03
cloudrancheryou are in the right place20:03
rockyg#startmeeting product working group20:03
openstackMeeting started Mon Oct 19 20:03:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rockyg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:03
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Arkady_Kanevskyhello20:03
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rockyg#chair barrett20:04
openstackCurrent chairs: barrett rockyg20:04
Arkady_KanevskyShamail (and others) can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237178/20:04
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barrettShamail's on the voice call, but not IRC20:05
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barrettDid everyone chime in for roll call?20:05
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SheenaGbarrett: I'm here!20:06
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SheenaGLate, sorry.20:06
barrett#topic Agenda20:06
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SheenaGbarrett: if you want to add the dial-in info again I'll call in to that as well20:06
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barrettSheenaG: Call in access: Access: (888) 875-9370, Bridge: 3; Passcode: 127859820:06
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barrett2 things on the agenda today:20:07
barrett  Product Working Group Roadmap Slide Review – Shamail20:07
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barrettAnd   Product Working Group Board Strategic Discussion – Carol20:07
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Arkady_Kanevskyadded new user story from midcycle - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237178/20:07
PietI have a couple of "asks: as well20:07
Piet"asks"20:07
barrett#agenda Roadmap Review20:08
barrett#link   https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1rtOGdUNISkKbVJQZlojZedwHBPgYH549U7bMMYGzCU0/edit#slide=id.p7120:08
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barrettWe discussed adding new projects to the roadmap post Tokyo. The requirement is to have someone in this team who will own the content for future updates20:12
barrett#action Arkady provide Tempest coverage for next roadmap cycle20:12
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barrett#action Shamail to connect Arkady into Mitak webinar series20:13
barrettAnyone interested in covering Rally or RefStack?20:13
leongi can take OSAD :-)20:14
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barrett#action Kenny Ansible20:14
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barrett#action Kenny documentation20:15
barrett#action Rocky to cover RefStack20:15
barrett#action Shamail to cover translation20:15
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barrett#action Arkady to cover Rally20:15
barrettThanks Leong, we'll take you up on coverage for other projects20:15
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barrett#topic Board Update slide review20:28
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barrett#link   https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1onP910rZK4SnqInxjqsX9WdI_mnDEOHcvN35klsgsFo/edit?usp=sharing20:29
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SheenaGbarrett: any info for participating/listening into Tokyo sessions would be awesome20:31
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Arkady_Kanevskyfor board meeting on Monday20:35
Arkady_Kanevsky1.Go to https://openstack.webex.com/openstack/k2/j.php?MTID=t8f107d4faf9b523f47ec3da5fb3fe8d720:35
Arkady_Kanevsky2.Enter your name and email address.20:35
Arkady_Kanevsky3.Enter the session password: This session does not require a password20:35
Arkady_Kanevsky4.Click “Join Now”.20:35
Arkady_Kanevsky5.Follow the instructions that appear on your screen.20:35
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barrettIs there anything missing?20:38
barrettSheenaG: Will send out the info when I send out links to the final slides!20:38
hughhalfbarrett - Looks well and truly on the right track Carol.  I still find the award & recogntion piece a bit odd, but that's merely a personal reflection, not that it's a bad idea :)20:39
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barrettIf there's nothing else on the slides20:50
barrett#topic Opens20:50
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barrettPiet: Do you want to add something?20:50
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barrettPiet: Are you still here??20:52
hughhalfI think Piet logged off a few minutes ago looking at the channel logs20:53
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barrettthanks hughhalf20:55
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barrettOK folks - think we're done for today.20:59
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leongok20:59
leongthanks!20:59
hughhalfThanks all20:59
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barrett#endmeeting21:00
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