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| zhipeng | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 13:01:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhipeng. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:01 |
| zhipeng | #topic Roll Call | 13:01 |
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| zhipeng | hello folks | 13:01 |
| gampel | #info gampel | 13:01 |
| zhiyuan_ | #info zhiyuan | 13:02 |
| zhipeng | #info zhipeng | 13:02 |
| zhipeng | i didn't see joe here | 13:02 |
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| zhipeng | #topic work progress and discussion | 13:02 |
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| saggi | #info sggi | 13:02 |
| saggi | #info saggi | 13:03 |
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| zhipeng | #info joehuang | 13:03 |
| joehuang | hello | 13:03 |
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| saggi | hi | 13:04 |
| joehuang | hi saggi | 13:04 |
| gampel | hi | 13:04 |
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| joehuang | hi gampel | 13:04 |
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| joehuang | the topic is work progress, right | 13:05 |
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| zhiyuan_ | yes | 13:05 |
| saggi | yes | 13:05 |
| gampel | zhiyuan do you want to start ? | 13:05 |
| joehuang | zhiyuan first? | 13:06 |
| zhiyuan_ | fine | 13:06 |
| zhiyuan_ | I have just submitted the new patch for client wrapper. | 13:06 |
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| joehuang | good, I will find time to review it | 13:07 |
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| saggi | me too | 13:08 |
| joehuang | for me. I update the rest api framework with devtstack plugin | 13:08 |
| zhiyuan_ | most of the comments are addressed. and I remove all the explicit declaration of list_(resource)s method | 13:08 |
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| joehuang | and receive some comments on it | 13:09 |
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| gampel | does it include API to get the urls of the bottom stack ? | 13:09 |
| zhiyuan_ | make them to be registered automatically by Client class, so we don't need to change Client when we add new type of resources | 13:09 |
| joehuang | not yet, it's framework to integrate keystone | 13:09 |
| zhiyuan_ | yes, I add a new get_endpoint method | 13:09 |
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| joehuang | I'll have a two week business trip to meet with customer, may find no time to update the patch of the rest framework, including API these two weeks | 13:11 |
| joehuang | but I'll try to review patches you submitted | 13:11 |
| gampel | Ok zhiyuan saggi are we dependent for the next task on Joe patch ? | 13:12 |
| zhiyuan_ | any new requirement for DAL so I can continue to work? | 13:12 |
| saggi | I would like to get the WSGI up and running but I'm not blocked on it. | 13:12 |
| gampel | yes saggi compiled a list of DAL tasks | 13:13 |
| joehuang | I suggest you first insert some record into db tables if you need it | 13:13 |
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| zhiyuan_ | I can update the patch of client and start a new patch for new requirement at the same time | 13:13 |
| gampel | saggi maybe you could update us on the status first | 13:13 |
| saggi | Sure | 13:13 |
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| saggi | I sent an update to the nova skeleton. This ties everything in the adapter side. It also fixes some bugs. | 13:14 |
| saggi | I also sent a patch that breaks all other patches | 13:14 |
| saggi | It moves all the adapter code to it's own service and leaves the cascade serivce blank | 13:14 |
| saggi | It's just so that people can base their work on it. | 13:15 |
| saggi | And because it's very hard to review patches that contain file moves *and* modifications. | 13:15 |
| saggi | So it only contains moves and minimal modifications. | 13:15 |
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| saggi | I'm now working on getting versioned objects so that we can communicate across the message queue and DB | 13:16 |
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| saggi | it's shou;dn | 13:17 |
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| saggi | it shouldn't effect DAL or WSGI work | 13:17 |
| saggi | since they use different files | 13:17 |
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| joehuang2 | my connection lost for a while | 13:18 |
| saggi | But I would like to push the changes I have up so that we have a common master to work from | 13:18 |
| saggi | So please review | 13:18 |
| joehuang2 | would the google doc be updated these days to reflect some new idea | 13:18 |
| saggi | Yes, gampel is working on it | 13:18 |
| gampel | I am working on the design document with all the development and scalability feedback i think it will be ready By monday morning | 13:18 |
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| joehuang2 | ok. I will also review the code ASAP | 13:19 |
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| gampel | lets all try to review zhiyuan and saggi patch tomorrow | 13:19 |
| gampel | so we could merge it all in | 13:19 |
| joehuang2 | yes | 13:19 |
| joehuang2 | agree | 13:19 |
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| saggi | In case you wonder what supposed to work in my nova patches. | 13:19 |
| saggi | You should be able to create a VM and it will finish scheduling and appear as active | 13:20 |
| saggi | but fail due to the port not being up | 13:20 |
| saggi | since the network bits are not wrapped yet | 13:20 |
| joehuang2 | got it | 13:21 |
| zhiyuan_ | my connection also lost for a while | 13:21 |
| gampel | Saggi can you please share your ideas for the next DAL tasks | 13:21 |
| gampel | and overall tasks | 13:21 |
| saggi | The thing I really wanted was WSGI <-> DAL tied down | 13:22 |
| saggi | but that will have to wait. | 13:22 |
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| saggi | Another things that needs to be done is syncing the AZ between tricircle and nova | 13:22 |
| saggi | currently I manually add the fake compute nodes to different AZs | 13:23 |
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| saggi | I don't really know how to block the user from removing a compute node from an AZ | 13:23 |
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| saggi | but we need to make sure that the AZ we define in the tricircle DB is the same that is defined in nova | 13:24 |
| joehuang2 | you can add some fix mapping first to adding code for other parts and test it works or not | 13:24 |
| saggi | and that it's always defined there | 13:24 |
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| saggi | So in general, the task is: Make sure that the compute node representing the site is in an AZ we define and nova knows about that mapping. | 13:25 |
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| joehuang2 | when you create a fake node, you can add it to the az you want in the nova db in the top layer | 13:26 |
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| gampel | if i understand correctly final flow should be add-site --> WSGI --> DAL --> NOVA | 13:26 |
| saggi | YES | 13:26 |
| saggi | WSGI --> Cascade Service --> DAL --> NOVA | 13:26 |
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| joehuang2 | but api can't see the fake node, it's dynamicly created | 13:27 |
| saggi | Once you create the fake node in the Adapter it registers with the DB so top knows about it | 13:27 |
| saggi | The flow would be: | 13:27 |
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| zhiyuan_ | so DAL needs to register new site to the top NOVA, as compute node? | 13:29 |
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| gampel | yes i think so | 13:29 |
| gampel | as a AZ | 13:29 |
| saggi | User -create_site()-> WSGI -create_site()-> Cascade Service -create_site()-> DB | 13:29 |
| saggi | -create_fake_node-> Adapter | 13:29 |
| saggi | -add_to_az()-> Dal --> Nova | 13:29 |
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| saggi | Trying to do a sequence diagram in ASCII is hard :) | 13:30 |
| joehuang2 | one moment | 13:30 |
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| gampel | :) | 13:30 |
| zhipeng | new occupation as ASCII artist :P | 13:31 |
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| joehuang2 | if no compute node, can the AZ record be created directly in Nova DB | 13:31 |
| saggi | We don't want to access the Nova DB directly | 13:31 |
| gampel | it will be better to do it via the API | 13:32 |
| saggi | Having the function that bind the AZ to a Compute host would suffice for now. Since I need to move some code around have the sites defined by the DB and no an in memory list | 13:32 |
| joehuang2 | it seems that the AZ is prensented only when the compute node was added into host aggregate, in current nova implementation | 13:32 |
| saggi | yes | 13:32 |
| saggi | it's just a string attribute | 13:33 |
| joehuang2 | create_site()-> WSGI -create_site()-> Cascade Service -create_site()-> DB, there is no compute node in the AZ yet. I am affraid can we insert a new AZ into NOVA | 13:33 |
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| saggi | yes | 13:33 |
| saggi | the second phase is creating a node in the adapter | 13:33 |
| saggi | that will register with nova | 13:33 |
| saggi | This is what my current patches implement | 13:33 |
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| saggi | Than after it registered with nova add it to a Host Aggregate with the proper AZ attribute | 13:34 |
| joehuang2 | create_site()-> WSGI -create_site()-> Cascade Service -create_site()-> DB->create fake node->create host aggreagte in nova | 13:34 |
| saggi | That is the order | 13:35 |
| joehuang2 | :) | 13:36 |
| joehuang2 | I think work progress and status is clear, may we end the meeting earlier | 13:37 |
| zhiyuan_ | sorry I lost the connection again and I change the client. Do I miss something? | 13:37 |
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| zhiyuan_ | I only see the order sent by joehuang | 13:37 |
| gampel | welcome back we think that the next DAL task is handle site registration | 13:37 |
| zhiyuan_ | this "create_site()-> WSGI -create_site()-> Cascade Service -create_site()-" | 13:38 |
| saggi | http://www.plantuml.com/plantuml/img/TP3DIaD138NtUOfmztq15zAV2wKBNRGKmTtfJ9mEtdkdJd8hlhqP196gsvplV0bPgg7QF0v4bcqGxXv45KcK5toGjrcc8Dndf8gn8qAmKlceKkbKvYcYVl3JORiZQZDUtFFskECx3bLWmffDg4qyw3RGW2YkhTSSfBl18Wmdg6zRqs_M1Vtwfl4djOguc9_oZRxWLJYKyJB_L-anEBwNbBKrcvlVivrvzKmjS-InNE7CvajvBcgCbAea_61fALFqNtu2 | 13:38 |
| joehuang2 | create_site()-> WSGI -create_site()-> Cascade Service -create_site()-> DB->create fake node->create host aggreagte in nova , That is the order | 13:38 |
| zhiyuan_ | ok, i see the figure | 13:39 |
| joehuang2 | good | 13:39 |
| saggi | Fixed small error | 13:39 |
| saggi | http://www.plantuml.com/plantuml/img/TP2zQWD138HxFOMutY-G8lZd8AH8YXXZI3VUbTTBxcwTbSx1Rs-T0o4uSQcPRqP2SpLK6_kEoB9rmisBg2A9yepNyZdA48JRZ5JHDqG8LYflL2hjoZX4r3Dlrq_FH9F6iyVhn0ySgi24DPlGLNAhMK43edXnFUKWpGqNOTX1VT-I_h9Uq2vl4lzIYuYZ-J4_w1uVmg7qn_5Uf4Nd-9kah5DowkQlR0TUlDFaEV9QJd1czLrvA6gCbAea_69fBaFqRru0 | 13:39 |
| saggi | Speed UML drawing :) | 13:39 |
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| saggi | I might also add a hook in the scheduler since it get's notification when a host aggregate changes to tell the Cascade Service to make sure everything is correct | 13:41 |
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| saggi | That way an admin can't screw up the mapping | 13:43 |
| joehuang2 | only admin can do that | 13:43 |
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| gampel | zhiyuan we can discuss it some more tomorrow in the tricircle IRC after you look at it a bit | 13:44 |
| saggi | But an admin that doesn't know that s\he should change the AZ name in the tricircle API and not the Nova API might cause the system to misbehave | 13:45 |
| saggi | better be save | 13:45 |
| zhiyuan_ | @gampel ok | 13:45 |
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| gampel | I think that we are all done thank you lets continue talking this week in the tricircle IRC | 13:48 |
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| saggi | Just to make it clear | 13:49 |
| saggi | Start with the dal -> nova part | 13:49 |
| saggi | since I am making a lot of changes all around the cascade service | 13:49 |
| saggi | don't want to have issues merging. | 13:49 |
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| zhipeng | so let's conclude today's meeting | 13:52 |
| zhipeng | if there is no other buisness | 13:52 |
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| gampel | i don't think so good night | 13:52 |
| zhiyuan_ | thanks and bye~~ | 13:53 |
| joehuang2 | bye | 13:53 |
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| zhipeng | #endmeeting | 13:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 13:53:26 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2015/tricircle.2015-09-09-13.01.html | 13:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2015/tricircle.2015-09-09-13.01.txt | 13:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2015/tricircle.2015-09-09-13.01.log.html | 13:53 |
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| gampel | bye | 13:53 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #startmeeting docteam | 14:06 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 14:06:40 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ShillaSaebi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:06 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 14:06 |
| ShillaSaebi | Good morning | 14:06 |
| ShillaSaebi | anyone here for the US doc meeting? | 14:07 |
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| katomo | Hi o/ | 14:07 |
| ShillaSaebi | hi katomo | 14:07 |
| ShillaSaebi | alright lets go ahead and get started | 14:07 |
| ShillaSaebi | Action items from the last meeting | 14:08 |
| ShillaSaebi | Liberty specs in review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z | 14:08 |
| ShillaSaebi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191041/ (Third Party driver docs - still up for discussion) | 14:08 |
| ShillaSaebi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217711/ (Training branding spec - up for discussion) | 14:08 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #topic Speciality teams: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams | 14:09 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #info HA Guide - RST migration complete, need help with updating content. | 14:09 |
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| ShillaSaebi | anyone here from the specialty teams? | 14:09 |
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| ShillaSaebi | ok | 14:10 |
| ShillaSaebi | #info Install Guides - RST migration complete, need help testing RST against Kilo. | 14:10 |
| katomo | :) | 14:10 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #info Networking Guide - Test & review for Liberty updates. | 14:10 |
| ShillaSaebi | #info Security Guide - RST conversion complete, and live. | 14:11 |
| ShillaSaebi | #info User Guides - Cloud Admin Guide RST migration complete, work starting on reorganisation. | 14:11 |
| ShillaSaebi | #info Ops/Arch Guides - Blueprints merged for reorg of the Arch Guide in Mitaka. Upgrade documentation to be completed for Liberty. | 14:11 |
| ShillaSaebi | and katomo I saw something in my email about the ops guide meetings | 14:11 |
| ShillaSaebi | I haven't gotten to it just yet | 14:11 |
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| ShillaSaebi | did we come up with a time for the APAC ones and do we have a team lined up? | 14:12 |
| katomo | Ah | 14:12 |
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| katomo | I'm in Japan, this time is covenient. | 14:13 |
| ShillaSaebi | ok cool | 14:13 |
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| ShillaSaebi | sounds good to me | 14:14 |
| ShillaSaebi | #info API docs - See status update #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072557.html | 14:14 |
| ShillaSaebi | #info Config Ref - Contact Guavain #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/ConfigRef | 14:14 |
| ShillaSaebi | #info OpenStack Labs - Contact Pranav Salunke | 14:14 |
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| ShillaSaebi | and just in case, the training guides contact person is Matjaz Pancur | 14:15 |
| ShillaSaebi | feel free to reach out | 14:15 |
| katomo | ok | 14:15 |
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| ShillaSaebi | alright any questions? | 14:15 |
| katomo | none | 14:15 |
| katomo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/KiloDocTesting-RST | 14:15 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #topic Countdown to Liberty | 14:17 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #info 35 Days #link http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20151015T00&p0=1440&msg=OpenStack+Liberty+Launch+Date&font=hand | 14:17 |
| ShillaSaebi | everyone good with the ATC passes and Visa requirements? | 14:17 |
| ShillaSaebi | katomo you are in Japan, so i think you should be ok :) | 14:18 |
| katomo | yeah | 14:18 |
| katomo | right :) | 14:18 |
| ShillaSaebi | heh ok moving along | 14:18 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #topic Spotlight bugs | 14:18 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1257018 VPNaaS isn't documented in cloud admin | 14:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1257018 in openstack-manuals "VPNaaS isn't documented in cloud admin" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:18 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1257656 VMware: add support for VM diagnostics | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1257656 in openstack-api-site " VMware: add support for VM diagnostics" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:19 |
| ShillaSaebi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1261969 Document nova server package | 14:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1261969 in openstack-manuals "Document nova server package (WAS: Enable remote debugging for nova)" [Low,Confirmed] - Assigned to Atsushi SAKAI (sakaia) | 14:19 |
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| ShillaSaebi | any questions? | 14:19 |
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| katomo | n | 14:20 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #topic Open Discussion | 14:20 |
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| ShillaSaebi | anyone have any questions? | 14:20 |
| sslypushenko | ShillaSaebi hi! I have one) | 14:21 |
| ShillaSaebi | We got through the agenda quick today | 14:21 |
| ShillaSaebi | sure | 14:21 |
| katomo | Oh | 14:21 |
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| sslypushenko | May be you can help me with some advice | 14:21 |
| ShillaSaebi | sslypushenko I can try :) | 14:21 |
| sslypushenko | Team of Manila project(https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila) wants to add Manila API reference to developer.openstack.org page. Please, can anyone clarify existing procedure for adding new project on developer.openstack.org? | 14:21 |
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| sslypushenko | Does it need some approvment? | 14:22 |
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| katomo | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/manila/ | 14:24 |
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| ShillaSaebi | lets see so there is already existing developer documentation on manila from what I see | 14:24 |
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| ShillaSaebi | Have you tried reaching out to: Ben Swartzlander | 14:25 |
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| sslypushenko | It is dev docs, but I was asked to create API Reference for Manila | 14:25 |
| sslypushenko | Exactlly) Ben asked me for it) | 14:26 |
| katomo | hmmm | 14:26 |
| katomo | #link http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref.html | 14:26 |
| katomo | Got it. | 14:26 |
| sslypushenko | We want add Share API v1 link on this page | 14:27 |
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| sslypushenko | There is a patch for it, but it is in very WIP state) | 14:27 |
| katomo | I think you need to make a patch to api-site, and need approval for docs team (mainly API people). | 14:27 |
| ShillaSaebi | yeah do you have the link | 14:28 |
| sslypushenko | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221060/ | 14:28 |
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| ShillaSaebi | maybe we can add some of the doc cores as reviewers to the patch | 14:28 |
| ShillaSaebi | that way it will get looked at | 14:28 |
| katomo | thanks, already under review :) | 14:29 |
| ShillaSaebi | great katomo | 14:29 |
| ShillaSaebi | that's awesome | 14:29 |
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| sslypushenko | Great thx) | 14:29 |
| ShillaSaebi | sslypushenko does that help? | 14:29 |
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| sslypushenko | I hope it will) | 14:30 |
| sslypushenko | Thx | 14:30 |
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| katomo | First, we need address Jenkins error. | 14:30 |
| ShillaSaebi | yeah I was thinking the same thing | 14:30 |
| sslypushenko | katomo, I have tried to fix Jenkins failures already | 14:31 |
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| katomo | great | 14:31 |
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| sslypushenko | But anyway Jenkins checks will be ok | 14:32 |
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| katomo | Need any help? | 14:32 |
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| katomo | hmmm | 14:32 |
| ShillaSaebi | feel free to give us a shout if you do need help | 14:32 |
| ShillaSaebi | or we can spot check it | 14:32 |
| sslypushenko | Great thx! | 14:33 |
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| ShillaSaebi | alright anything else anyone wants to bring up? | 14:33 |
| katomo | none | 14:34 |
| sslypushenko | none) | 14:34 |
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| ShillaSaebi | ok well thanks everyone I appreciate your time! | 14:35 |
| katomo | thanks, all | 14:35 |
| ShillaSaebi | see ya next time! | 14:35 |
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| ShillaSaebi | #endmeeting | 14:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 14:35:49 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:35 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-09-09-14.06.html | 14:35 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-09-09-14.06.txt | 14:35 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2015/docteam.2015-09-09-14.06.log.html | 14:35 |
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| SotK | Anyone here for the StoryBoard meeting? | 15:01 |
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| Zara | I am, whoops, sorry! | 15:02 |
| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 15:02:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:03 |
| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 15:03 |
| SotK | I don't think there are any announcements or urgent items? | 15:03 |
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| Zara | nope, same old same old with the 'more reviews would be nice' thing! | 15:03 |
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| Zara | we had a few before I went on holiday, but they seem to have trailed off again. | 15:04 |
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| Zara | we don't bite, honest. | 15:04 |
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| SotK | #topic In-Progress Work | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "In-Progress Work (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 15:05 | |
| SotK | #info SotK is still looking at worklists and boards. | 15:05 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202989/ Spec | 15:05 |
| SotK | The spec now has some +1s, I'm hoping it can be merged pretty soon. | 15:05 |
| SotK | The API for boards and worklists is taking shape nicely, basic functionality is almost all there. | 15:05 |
| SotK | Still need to add the ability to "add people" to boards and worklists, and also think about the automatic worklist concept sometime. | 15:05 |
| SotK | The UI is also getting there, I'll update the test instance I mentioned ages ago with the shiny new kanban UI which is more than a concept soon. | 15:05 |
| Zara | :D | 15:05 |
| Zara | Subscriptions are still trudging along, mainly because I'm used to very different engineering work (build instructions for custom OS). | 15:06 |
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| SotK | #info Zara is continuing with subscriptions speedups | 15:06 |
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| Zara | So it's fun and I understand the principles, but the angular and html side is rather new to me and I don't know the languages in depth. | 15:06 |
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| Zara | it'd be great if we could get some people with more web-development expertise interested. | 15:06 |
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| Zara | since more pairs of eyes is always better for the codebase and all that. :) | 15:08 |
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| SotK | Indeed | 15:08 |
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| Zara | So yeah, I have a hacky half-solution and it needs to be better than that before I submit a patch. | 15:08 |
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| * SotK is excited for the speedups :) | 15:09 | |
| Zara | me too; should make all our lives easier :) | 15:09 |
| SotK | That is all the in-progress stuff I'm aware of. | 15:09 |
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| SotK | Anyone disagree? | 15:09 |
| Zara | nope | 15:09 |
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| SotK | There are no discussion points on the agenda, so... | 15:09 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 15:09 |
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| Zara | I believe you went to an OpenStack meetup! How was it? | 15:10 |
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| SotK | It was interesting! | 15:10 |
| SotK | Good to learn more about the core parts of OpenStack. | 15:11 |
| Zara | heh, yeah, we're a bit isolated over here atm; it would be nice to be more integrated. | 15:11 |
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| * SotK failed to obtain any opinions on StoryBoard from OpenStack contributors who were there sadly | 15:11 | |
| Zara | :( | 15:12 |
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| Zara | still, at least that's not negative opinions. | 15:12 |
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| Zara | any interesting stuff people did say? | 15:12 |
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| SotK | There was an interesting talk on how CERN use OpenStack | 15:13 |
| SotK | (tl;dr - for almost everything) | 15:13 |
| Zara | wow, cool | 15:14 |
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| Zara | (saw a great talk on CERN a while ago but it was more of a 'this is how it works' thing, at a meetup about ethics and science. it was when there was all the stuff in the media about the hadron collider causing black holes... :P) | 15:15 |
| Zara | (tl;dr: it doesn't, don't be ridiculous.) | 15:15 |
| SotK | :D | 15:16 |
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| SotK | Yup. There was also an "Introduction to OpenStack" talk which touched on some interesting stuff about using Logstash and other tools for monitoring your OpenStack cloud. | 15:16 |
| * SotK believes there is likely to be a talk specifically on that at a future meetup, but might be wrong :) | 15:16 | |
| Zara | :) cool, it sounds like a good night; interesting to get a bigger picture so we can see where we might fit in in the future. Any storyboard stuff left to discuss? | 15:17 |
| SotK | Yes! | 15:17 |
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| Zara | :D | 15:17 |
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| SotK | I actually have something to discuss that I forgot to add to the agenda :) | 15:17 |
| Zara | haha, go for it; I believe we have 43 minutes left | 15:17 |
| Zara | hence my waffling about meetups xD | 15:17 |
| SotK | haha | 15:18 |
| SotK | I was thinking about the "Rich markup in descriptions" story earlier to take my mind off boards for a bit | 15:18 |
| SotK | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/94 Rich markup story | 15:18 |
| Zara | I see it | 15:19 |
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| SotK | I figured that a quick and easy way to solve it would be to just do the rendering part for now and leave a proper "Rich editor" for later | 15:20 |
| SotK | I'd like to suggest we officially decide that story descriptions can be Markdown | 15:20 |
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| SotK | (since I found multiple JS markdown parsers which work nicely, and no JS ReStructured Text parsers) | 15:21 |
| Zara | okay, that's fine with me; I don't know much about it but it seems to be the view of people who have actually investigated it. | 15:21 |
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| SotK | excellent! | 15:22 |
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| SotK | #agreed Support Markdown in descriptions and comments | 15:23 |
| Zara | \o/ | 15:23 |
| SotK | I will look at sending a small patch to do some magic for that then | 15:23 |
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| SotK | hopefully I can solve the "syntax highlighting" story with the same patch | 15:24 |
| SotK | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000014 Syntax highlighting | 15:24 |
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| SotK | I also think we should hope to support other formats in future too | 15:25 |
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| Zara | I think so, but for now I still have the subscriptions and tags after that on my worklist | 15:25 |
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| SotK | #info Look at support for other formats as a future task | 15:26 |
| SotK | I have no other points! | 15:26 |
| SotK | Anyone else? | 15:26 |
| Zara | I guess all that's left is for me to say that if you have some time to look at what I have on subscriptions so far, that'd be helpful, since I feel like I'm going round in circles a bit. | 15:27 |
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| Zara | other than that, _o_ | 15:28 |
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| * SotK will have time either later or tomorrow, depending on how long he takes to finish implementing card movement | 15:28 | |
| Zara | okay, great, thanks. I think I've overcomplicated everything and have way more code than I need... :) | 15:29 |
| SotK | No problem :) | 15:29 |
| SotK | If there are no other points, I guess we can end the meeting... | 15:29 |
| SotK | .. | 15:29 |
| SotK | . | 15:29 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:29 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 15:29:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2015/storyboard.2015-09-09-15.02.html | 15:29 |
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| thingee | skipping the cinder meeting today | 16:00 |
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| thingee | no agenda items | 16:00 |
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| thingee | which is fine, because I just got back from vacation and need to catch up on stuff | 16:00 |
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| diablo_rojo | thingee: and post pictures | 16:00 |
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| jungleboyj | thingee: You are back and we aren't meeting!?! :-) | 16:01 |
| geguileo | thingee: Good to have you back | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, I will use the found time. | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: ++ | 16:01 |
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| thingee | :D | 16:01 |
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| kmartin | welcome back thingee | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | We could use the meeting time to hear burning man stories. :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Probably don't want those recorded though. | 16:02 |
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| srikanth_p | hi..i am from brocade.. | 16:02 |
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| thingee | I did have a wedding ceremony at burning man, because that's a thing you do :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | thingee: You did it?! | 16:02 |
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| thingee | smcginnis: yup | 16:02 |
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| Shamail | Hi everyone. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | thingee: Congrats! | 16:03 |
| rajinir | Congrats! thingee | 16:03 |
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| kmartin | congrats thingee | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | thingee: You met at burning man, right? | 16:03 |
| geguileo | thingee: Congrats!! | 16:03 |
| thingee | smcginnis: yup | 16:03 |
| Shamail | Congrats thingee | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Awesome | 16:03 |
| flip214 | thingee: congratulation! | 16:03 |
| thingee | thanks everyone :) | 16:03 |
| flip214 | may you live in harmony. | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | Reverend thingee ! | 16:03 |
| thingee | so my present to all of you as being back is no meeting :) - since we have no agenda | 16:04 |
| scottda | jungleboyj: I think it means Groom thingee | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | Wait, you mean you got married at burning man!?! | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | Congratulations thingee ! | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | That is awesome! | 16:04 |
| e0ne | hingee: my congratulations! | 16:04 |
| cebruns_ | Sweet! And congrats! | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | scottda: Thanks ... that slowly parsed out. | 16:04 |
| diablo_rojo | thingee: Thats awesome! Congrats :) | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Now pictures are a must! | 16:05 |
| jgregor | thingee: Congratulations! | 16:05 |
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| kmartin | thingee, so my questions is how all the people made it up Hwy 80 to burning man but broke down going down the hill on Hwy 80...traffic was a mess on Monday | 16:05 |
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| thingee | kmartin: the playa really messes with your stuff. my guess is old RV's are cheap for burning man, but bad if you're not a mechanic | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:07 |
| thingee | kmartin: and hippies aren't usually mechanics | 16:07 |
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| kmartin | my 12 year daughter enjoyed the sights on the way and now wants to attend, I think the unicorn golf cart we saw pushed here over the edge :) | 16:09 |
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| asselin_ | o/ | 16:16 |
| thingee | kmartin: we do have charlie the unicorn art car | 16:16 |
| thingee | kmartin: http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7kkawcbHtrg/maxresdefault.jpg | 16:16 |
| asselin_ | thingee, congratulations! | 16:16 |
| thingee | asselin_: thanks | 16:17 |
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| kmartin | thingee, that's a cool one I'll show that one to her. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | thingee: That is frigging awesome! | 16:20 |
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| stevebaker | #startmeeting heat | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 20:00:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is stevebaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 20:00 |
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| stevebaker | greetings everyone | 20:00 |
| stevebaker | #topic rollcall | 20:00 |
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| dgonzalez | hi | 20:00 |
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| Drago | o/ | 20:00 |
| skraynev_ | o/ | 20:00 |
| jasond | o/ | 20:00 |
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| ryansb | o/ | 20:01 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: ping | 20:01 |
| stevebaker | #topic Adding items to the agenda | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Adding items to the agenda (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:02 | |
| zaneb | o hai | 20:02 |
| stevebaker | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282015-09-09_2000_UTC.29 | 20:02 |
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| stevebaker | crickets | 20:03 |
| stevebaker | #topic rc1 blueprint status | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rc1 blueprint status (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:03 | |
| skraynev_ | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 20:03 |
| stevebaker | skraynev_: beat me to it | 20:03 |
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| skraynev_ | I just was prepared ;) | 20:04 |
| zaneb | he was just waiting there with his finger on the trigger | 20:04 |
| skraynev_ | yeah | 20:04 |
| skraynev_ | looks like this one is done https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/scaling-group-common ? | 20:04 |
| skraynev_ | zaneb ^ ? | 20:05 |
| zaneb | so all the patches I proposed merged | 20:05 |
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| stevebaker | the blueprint feature freeze exception is entirely up to us, if it is in the rc1 list it has a FFE. Sing out if you have suggestions for any changes required | 20:05 |
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| zaneb | but I have other patches for that bp | 20:05 |
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| zaneb | never actually got around to posting the part where we create common scaling group code :) | 20:05 |
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| zaneb | that will be a mitaka thing | 20:05 |
| zaneb | so I don't know what to do with the bp | 20:06 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: shall we call that bp done for now? | 20:06 |
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| zaneb | I vote kick it to M | 20:06 |
| zaneb | because what has landed is basically nothing but refactoring | 20:06 |
| zaneb | there was like one or two improvements to the algo | 20:06 |
| skraynev_ | zaneb: maybe add comments with clarification current status and them mark as done | 20:06 |
| skraynev_ | and create new one in M | 20:06 |
| skraynev_ | with another description | 20:07 |
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| skraynev_ | zaneb: ah see | 20:07 |
| zaneb | skraynev_: we're running out of names for this one. I am not the first person to start on this ;) | 20:07 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: It all landed after l3, so none of it will be in liberty unless it is backported to stable/liberty. I think it might be worth backporting anyway since it will make backporting scaling fixes easier during M | 20:07 |
| skraynev_ | in this case - moving bp to M is more reasonable | 20:07 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: can we consider what I landed part of Oleksii's bp? | 20:08 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: that's the only thing it's really needed for anyway | 20:08 |
| zaneb | otherwise it's 98% refactoring | 20:08 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: ok, what is that bp? its not in rc1 currently. | 20:08 |
| * zaneb looks | 20:09 | |
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| skraynev_ | zaneb: yeah. you have done solid platform for his bp | 20:09 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: and is there any chance you could propose that whole series to stable/liberty? I'll check but I think approval is rubber-stamping | 20:09 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/resource-group-batching | 20:09 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: I guess. can you go over what the release process is now? I thought we didn't open for Mitaka until RC? | 20:10 |
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| zaneb | so clearly I am behind the times | 20:10 |
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| stevebaker | oh, you're right. I see no stable/liberty | 20:11 |
| stevebaker | well, that makes it easy | 20:11 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: stand down! | 20:11 |
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| zaneb | so, uh, probably a good time to remind folks not to land new features unless they have FFE from now on | 20:12 |
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| stevebaker | It would be preferable to land the rest of the BPs as early as possible, so cores please work off the rc1 milestone page when deciding what to review | 20:12 |
| stevebaker | then review High rc1 bugs which are In Progress | 20:13 |
| skraynev_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/convergence-simulator-tests - what about this one ? | 20:13 |
| skraynev_ | I think that patch with all tests was merged | 20:13 |
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| stevebaker | sweet, its in | 20:14 |
| skraynev_ | also this one is implemented too https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/get-attr-all-attributes | 20:14 |
| skraynev_ | already marked it | 20:14 |
| skraynev_ | I will ask Kanagaraj about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/heat-resource-type-search tomorrow | 20:15 |
| stevebaker | I got an update from shardy, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/nested-validation will likely be close to the wire, and last to be ready for review | 20:15 |
| stevebaker | Its also fairly low-risk, but we need to live with the data format "forever" so it would be good to get that right | 20:16 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: FYI I moved my blueprint to future and ochuprykov's to liberty-rc1 and marked it complete | 20:17 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: so did I | 20:17 |
| stevebaker | #topic rc1 bug status | 20:17 |
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| stevebaker | shardy is still working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-heatclient/+bug/1224828, I think the current state needs some reviews | 20:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1224828 in python-heatclient "heat stack-update wants all parameters and the template all over again" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Winnie Tsang (wtsang) | 20:19 |
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| stevebaker | not much to say here yet, please fix all the bugs, review all the fixes :) | 20:21 |
| stevebaker | #topic state of the gate | 20:21 |
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| stevebaker | apart from the usual gate fun, we're being more impacted by races in our own tests | 20:22 |
| stevebaker | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure | 20:23 |
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| stevebaker | that list could probably do with some curating, if you know of a bug affecting our gate then feel free to tag it with gate-failure | 20:23 |
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| stevebaker | and by all means have a go at fixing any of ^ which are still an issue | 20:24 |
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| skraynev_ | stevebaker: added this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1493700 | 20:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1493700 in heat "Functional test test_hook_pre_update_replace is failed" [Medium,New] | 20:25 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev_: thanks | 20:25 |
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| stevebaker | also, the ERROR engine log is very noisy with expected failures http://logs.openstack.org/24/218324/2/check/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-orig-mysql/3bce010/logs/screen-h-eng.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 20:26 |
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| skraynev_ | stevebaker: I just follow therve advice about creating new bug per new fail on our gate ;) | 20:26 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev_: perfect | 20:26 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: do you have idea how to hide such expected raises ? | 20:27 |
| stevebaker | I'm thinking a functional test run shouldn't log *anything* to ERROR, and we should eventually enforce that | 20:27 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: hmm, that should be a bug. ERROR is supposed to be reserved for something the admin needs to pay attention to | 20:27 |
| zaneb | ResourceFailure is definitely not ERROR | 20:28 |
| zaneb | it's INFO at best | 20:28 |
| stevebaker | skraynev_: Don't log.error ResourceFailure or WaidConditionTimeout | 20:28 |
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| stevebaker | ok, I'll raise a bug | 20:28 |
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| stevebaker | any finally on gate issues, it would be nice if the convergence job became voting during rc1. | 20:29 |
| stevebaker | http://logs.openstack.org/24/218324/2/check/gate-heat-dsvm-functional-convg-mysql/1c55852/console.html | 20:29 |
| stevebaker | Is anyone looking at those failures? | 20:30 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: I don't think we can not log. it's tricky in resources, because we can't really distinguish between exceptions from the client and real coding errors | 20:30 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: how about WARNING with no stack trace? | 20:30 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: shouldn't be warning either though | 20:31 |
| zaneb | I say INFO | 20:31 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: I suppose that HP guys constantly repair these tests | 20:31 |
| zaneb | and the users will warn the admins if it's actually a warning ;) | 20:31 |
| stevebaker | yeah, india and asalkeld are asleep, so this is the wrong week to ask that question | 20:32 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: I have seen one bug about some fails in convergence gate.. | 20:32 |
| stevebaker | #topic design summit pre pre planning | 20:33 |
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| stevebaker | We have 4 fishbowls, 8 workrooms and a half day meetup | 20:34 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: wow cool. | 20:34 |
| zaneb | morning or afternoon? | 20:34 |
| skraynev_ | how about creating etherpad with session candidates ? | 20:34 |
| stevebaker | friday morning meetup I think | 20:34 |
| zaneb | excellent | 20:34 |
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| skraynev_ | zaneb: +1 for the morning :) | 20:35 |
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| stevebaker | skraynev_: maybe just start thinking about sessions. I don't want to do too much before the new PTL, and I'd like us to focus on Liberty for just a bit longer ;) | 20:36 |
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| skraynev_ | stevebaker: ok. I just suggested :) | 20:37 |
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| stevebaker | #topic Open Discussion | 20:37 |
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| stevebaker | #chair zaneb | 20:38 |
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| skraynev_ | stevebaker: but yeah. it's really the best time to think enough about topics for sessions | 20:38 |
| openstack | Current chairs: stevebaker zaneb | 20:38 |
| stevebaker | #chair | 20:38 |
| openstack | Current chairs: stevebaker zaneb | 20:38 |
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| zaneb | stevebaker: so, weirdly, the log level is already INFO: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/tree/heat/engine/resource.py#n606 | 20:38 |
| skraynev_ | I wanted to ask more review for rich-network stuff | 20:38 |
| skraynev_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:rich-network,n,z | 20:39 |
| stevebaker | skraynev_: +1, it would be good to land that so we can start testing it | 20:39 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: I need to do school run, can you take over? | 20:39 |
| zaneb | np | 20:39 |
| stevebaker | back in 10 minutes | 20:40 |
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| skraynev_ | nothing else from me ;) | 20:41 |
| dgonzalez | There was a discussion about multi-cloud stacks on the mailing list yesterday. Is there already somebody working on this? Its a feature i am interested in and i would like to help with if possible | 20:41 |
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| zaneb | dgonzalez: I don't believe anyone is working on it yet | 20:42 |
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| dgonzalez | zaneb: Ok, so any idea how i could start with this? I guess i would have to take a look at how keystone federation works... | 20:43 |
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| zaneb | dgonzalez: as I said in the thread, you need to add an optional auth_url to the context, and find a way to get the right token | 20:44 |
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| zaneb | that should be it | 20:44 |
| zaneb | SMOP ;) | 20:44 |
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| dgonzalez | zaneb: ok, that should be doable ;) | 20:45 |
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| zaneb | dgonzalez: I'll create a blueprint and post it to the list. then hopefully folks can use that to collaborate on specs and code, so that you're not all stepping on each other's toes | 20:47 |
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| dgonzalez | zaneb: ok thanks :) | 20:49 |
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| zaneb | discussion seems to have slackened off | 20:51 |
| zaneb | shall we adjourn until next week? | 20:51 |
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| zaneb | #endmeeting | 20:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 20:52:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-09-09-20.00.html | 20:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-09-09-20.00.txt | 20:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2015/heat.2015-09-09-20.00.log.html | 20:52 |
| stevebaker | I'm back! | 20:52 |
| skraynev_ | stevebaker: we finished ;) | 20:52 |
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| notmyname | swift team meeting time | 20:59 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 9 21:00:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | hello, everyone | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| aerwin3 | o/ | 21:00 |
| wbhuber | o/ | 21:00 |
| redbo | yo | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:00 |
| minwoob_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| hrou | hey | 21:00 |
| ho | hi | 21:00 |
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| hurricanerix | o/ | 21:00 |
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| torgomatic | <- | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | welcome | 21:01 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| notmyname | agenda is | 21:01 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:01 |
| acoles | hello | 21:01 |
| cutforth | hola! | 21:01 |
| notmyname | not a ton of topics, but a few important ones | 21:01 |
| notmyname | #topic general updates | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general updates (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:01 | |
| notmyname | first up, some general updates | 21:01 |
| notmyname | we did a swiftclient release earlier this week | 21:02 |
| notmyname | thanks acoles for helping me out there while I was offline | 21:02 |
| acoles | np | 21:02 |
| notmyname | that's the python-swiftclient 2.6.0 | 21:02 |
| notmyname | looking ahead, we do have the chance to do another swiftclient bugfix release if necessary and have that in "Liberty" | 21:02 |
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| jrichli | yo | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | but not more significant changes | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | I'm not anticipating that we'd do that. but if it's necessary, we can | 21:03 |
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| MooingLemur | o/ | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | also, because of the way versioning works, the next release of it that is after the liberty release will be at least 2.7.0 (increasing the minor version) | 21:04 |
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| timburke | so, we better improve swiftclient enough that it deserves it :) | 21:04 |
| notmyname | heh :-) | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | also, I'm working on some new tshirts. I'd appreciate it if you could fill this out soon, if you haven't already. it will take less than a minute https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5WQ7Y9F | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | I don't have final artwork yet, so no I can't show you the design yet ;-) | 21:06 |
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| hurricanerix | notmyname: does it have a bird on it? ;) | 21:06 |
| notmyname | hurricanerix: good guess! | 21:06 |
| hrou | jrichli, can it be translated to cookie form ? : ) | 21:07 |
| jrichli | perhaps | 21:07 |
| torgomatic | and it would be very rude to quickly resell such a shirt for profit | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | #topic swift this month | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "swift this month (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:07 | |
| tdasilva | notmyname: just a tip: google translate for swift 迅速 :) | 21:08 |
| torgomatic | nobody? bah. | 21:08 |
| kota_ | tdasilva: don't use it | 21:08 |
| tdasilva | lol | 21:08 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | I would have to have confirmation on that from kota_ and ho first ;-) | 21:08 |
| hrou | kota_, does it have a completely different meaning ? : ) | 21:08 |
| kota_ | absolutely | 21:09 |
| jrichli | torgomatic: people might think its for apple swift | 21:09 |
| notmyname | "rapid" | 21:09 |
| kota_ | yes | 21:09 |
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| kota_ | or quickly? | 21:09 |
| tdasilva | kota_: forgot to click on the "6 more translations" button | 21:09 |
| notmyname | yeah. "quick" | 21:09 |
| * torgomatic was just hoping someone would ask about the shirt-resale so he'd get to say "flipping the bird" in an officially-logged meeting | 21:09 | |
| kota_ | anyway I guess it is not Swift. | 21:09 |
| ho | kota_: +1 | 21:10 |
| jrichli | grown | 21:10 |
| jrichli | :-) | 21:10 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:10 |
| notmyname | so swift this month... | 21:10 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 21:10 |
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| acoles | torgomatic: what do mean about the shirt resale? :) | 21:10 |
| notmyname | we need a release by the end of the month that will be in the Liberty openstack reelase | 21:11 |
| notmyname | here's the release schedule for it | 21:11 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 21:11 |
| notmyname | note that the liberty release is oct 15 | 21:11 |
| MooingLemur | o-pensutakku suifuto | 21:11 |
| notmyname | so we need to have our release ready at the end of the month. gives us a small window for last minute bug fixes, if they show up | 21:12 |
| notmyname | here's how release versions will work now (it's slightly different) | 21:12 |
| notmyname | we are not doing RC tags any more | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | instead, we'll cut a release, eg 2.5.0 | 21:13 |
| notmyname | then if we find something, we'll patch/backport it and make a 2.5.1 release | 21:13 |
| notmyname | and as time goes on an if we need to do a backport, we'll do that on whatever the next version is, eg 2.5.2 | 21:13 |
| notmyname | basically, like the swiftclient, the first release in the M cycle will need to increment the minor version number | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | so we'll likely do a swift 2.5.0 release at the end of the month. possibly followed by a 2.5.1 (and 2.5.x for long-term backports). and in the M cycle we'll start with 2.6.0 | 21:15 |
| notmyname | make sense? | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | ok :-) | 21:15 |
| acoles | so liberty will == 2.5.x whatever x is on release day? | 21:15 |
| notmyname | acoles: yes | 21:15 |
| acoles | makes sense | 21:16 |
| notmyname | and if we have a backport to do in 6 months, that will be 2.5.x+1 | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | so the next thing is dependencies | 21:16 |
| notmyname | I think the only thing in question on pyeclib | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | we need to get the right versions of the dependencies into global-requirements asap | 21:17 |
| notmyname | kota_: I believe you were asking about pyeclib | 21:17 |
| notmyname | peluse__: | 21:17 |
| notmyname | I need to check with tsg on the state of things there | 21:17 |
| kota_ | currently, tsg- is working on bumping pyeclib | 21:18 |
| notmyname | ok, good | 21:18 |
| notmyname | are there any other dependency changes that anyone knows of? | 21:18 |
| kota_ | he said, yesterday he wanted to push it latest 1.0.9 into pypi, but seems not yet. | 21:18 |
| notmyname | kota_: ok. I'll bug him about it | 21:18 |
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| notmyname | no other dependency updates? | 21:19 |
| notmyname | so that just leaves everything else | 21:20 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: was a decision made on where pyeclib source code will be moved to? or if it will be moved at all? | 21:20 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: not yet. like the releases of pyeclib, that conversation is going slowly | 21:20 |
| tdasilva | ok | 21:21 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: and actually, I'm ok with waiting until after liberty to change it | 21:21 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: understood | 21:21 |
| notmyname | the point to change it is for long-term maintenance and speed of doing releases/patches. ie not because something is broken today | 21:21 |
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| notmyname | so stuff to get done by the end of the month for a swift release | 21:22 |
| notmyname | obviously, there's still a ton of stuff going on in the community | 21:22 |
| notmyname | the EC issues should take priority to land. we should release with as few known, open EC bugs as possible | 21:23 |
| notmyname | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bugs?field.tag=ec | 21:23 |
| notmyname | I could use some help in that list. I want to go through the "undecided" ones and set a priority. can someone help me with that? | 21:23 |
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| minwoob_ | notmyname: I'd be up for it. | 21:24 |
| notmyname | minwoob_: thanks! | 21:24 |
| minwoob_ | notmyname: Np. | 21:24 |
| kota_ | me too. | 21:25 |
| wbhuber | notmyname: minwoob and i presented the idea to peluse late last week and he said he'd look into prioritizing the remaining open EC bugs | 21:25 |
| notmyname | great | 21:25 |
| notmyname | if we can get those ranked today or tomorrow, then we can have a good sense of what's left and what's possible to get done | 21:25 |
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| wbhuber | notmyname: it'd be also great to have core members leave some inputs (i understand how thin of time they have across countless Swift bugs) | 21:25 |
| notmyname | wbhuber: yeah. I saw your comment earlier (and responded) ;-) | 21:26 |
| notmyname | any other questions about stuff for swift in liberty? | 21:26 |
| notmyname | as patches, especially EC patches, are proposed, I'll keep the stars up to date | 21:27 |
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| minwoob_ | We can probably discuss in #openstack-swift regarding prioritization of the remaining EC bugs. | 21:27 |
| notmyname | minwoob_: yes | 21:27 |
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| wbhuber | minwoob_: +1 | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | ok, let's move on to the summit then | 21:28 |
| notmyname | #topic tokyo summit | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | I hope you've started your japan visa process if necessary. | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | several of you have talks (that's great!!). please let me know if I can do anything to help you prepare | 21:29 |
| notmyname | the summit is tuesday-friday | 21:29 |
| notmyname | kota_ says he's going to throw a party for us | 21:29 |
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| notmyname | the thing we need to do is come up with the topics for the tech sessions | 21:30 |
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| notmyname | this summit has the same room types as vancouver did | 21:30 |
| kota_ | I'm in prep tho... | 21:30 |
| notmyname | fishbowls are large rooms for large discussions | 21:30 |
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| notmyname | working sessions are smaller rooms, and the topic is buried in the description | 21:31 |
| notmyname | and there is a free-form meetup on friday | 21:31 |
| notmyname | for this summit, we have 2 fishbowls, 12 working rooms, and the full day on friday | 21:31 |
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| torgomatic | as opposed to fish goals, which are something that you have to do in school | 21:32 |
| notmyname | boom. there | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-summit-swift | 21:32 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-summit-swift | 21:32 |
| notmyname | let's use that etherpad for coordinating and collecting topic ideas | 21:32 |
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| kota_ | nice | 21:33 |
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| notmyname | so start filling it out, and as we get closer we'll rank the proposed topics and I'll figure out a schedule for them | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | any other questions about the summit? | 21:35 |
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| notmyname | ok, moving on | 21:36 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:36 |
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| ho | do we have a projector in the rooms? | 21:36 |
| notmyname | yes! | 21:36 |
| notmyname | or at least a largeish TV | 21:36 |
| ho | nice! | 21:36 |
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| jrichli | It would be great to have some container sync improvements land. patch 205803 would be a good one. | 21:37 |
| patchbot | jrichli: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205803/ | 21:37 |
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| notmyname | next week's meeting: I'll be traveling. either let's cancel or someone else volunteer to lead this meeting | 21:37 |
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| acoles | i think we know what we have to focus on for 2-3 weeks | 21:39 |
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| acoles | so could skip a meeting | 21:39 |
| notmyname | jrichli: thanks. I know that IBM really wants those container sync patches to land | 21:39 |
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| notmyname | acoles: :-) | 21:39 |
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| acoles | notmyname: sorry to rewind a little - where will the ranking of EC bugs/patches be recorded? | 21:40 |
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| wbhuber | acoles: was thinking along that line too | 21:40 |
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| notmyname | acoles: first step is to set the priority in LP. from there we'll be able to write them down in ranked order | 21:40 |
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| acoles | notmyname: ok. maybe on priority reviews page? | 21:41 |
| notmyname | I can (ab)use the https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews page for that | 21:41 |
| notmyname | acoles: yeah :-) | 21:41 |
| acoles | yup. that :) | 21:41 |
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| notmyname | ok, so I don't hear any calls for a meeting next week. let's skip it | 21:41 |
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| notmyname | anything else for this week? | 21:42 |
| tdasilva | if anybody has a chance, please review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210117/ | 21:42 |
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| kota_ | tdasilva: nice | 21:43 |
| kota_ | reading in today's working. | 21:43 |
| tdasilva | kota_: thanks | 21:44 |
| notmyname | thanks for working on Swift! | 21:44 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 9 21:44:51 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2015/swift.2015-09-09-21.00.html | 21:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2015/swift.2015-09-09-21.00.txt | 21:44 |
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