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anteaya	#startmeeting third-party	15:01
openstack	Meeting started Mon Jun 1 15:01:49 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	15:01
openstack	Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.	15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)"		15:01
openstack	The meeting name has been set to 'third_party'	15:01
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anteaya	hello	15:01
anteaya	raise your hand if you are here for the third party meeting	15:02
akerr	o/	15:02
ameade	o/	15:02
anteaya	hello	15:02
anteaya	welcome	15:02
anteaya	how are you today?	15:02
akerr	pretty good	15:02
akerr	yourself?	15:03
anteaya	glad to hear it	15:03
anteaya	good thanks	15:03
lennyb	Hi	15:03
anteaya	beautiful sunny day today	15:03
anteaya	hi lennyb	15:03
anteaya	lennyb: I saw you the monday night of summit and never saw you again	15:03
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anteaya	lennyb: did you get to know some nova folks?	15:03
lennyb	We worked with asselin on wednesday as well :)	15:04
anteaya	oh yes that is correct	15:04
anteaya	my silly memory	15:04
anteaya	you were in the working session to fix the puppet things	15:04
anteaya	of course	15:04
anteaya	:)	15:04
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lennyb	no, I didnt get the chance to meet nova folks :(	15:05
anteaya	no :(	15:05
anteaya	what a shame	15:05
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anteaya	you have to start lingering in #openstack-nova	15:05
anteaya	and skim the backscroll from eavesdrop.openstack.org	15:06
lennyb	I know. I am intending to do so	15:06
anteaya	so you know what they are talking about	15:06
anteaya	okay great	15:06
anteaya	what shall we discuss today?	15:06
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lennyb	anteaya, btw, it was very nice to meet you in person	15:07
anteaya	it was nice to meet you too lennyb	15:07
anteaya	:)	15:07
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anteaya	anyone have any issues with their system they wish to discuss?	15:07
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lennyb	I dont have any special items today. but I am curios why my email to third-party mailing list always go to your approval ?	15:08
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anteaya	the third-party-announce mailing list is moderated	15:09
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anteaya	and I am one of the moderators	15:09
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anteaya	the point of the list is to have a place to notify operators of ci systems infra disables	15:09
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anteaya	that is the main point	15:09
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anteaya	we also approve some other posts that sort of fall in that category	15:09
anteaya	but it isn't a 'talk about what you want' kind of list	15:10
anteaya	as many consumers would consider that too much noise for their needs	15:10
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lennyb	understood.	15:10
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anteaya	at the time it was set up, getting operators to pay attention when we needed them too was tricky	15:10
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anteaya	as there was noise and confusion everywhere	15:10
anteaya	that is why the list is so heavily moderated	15:10
anteaya	things are much calmer now	15:11
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anteaya	which makes it nicer for everyone	15:11
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anteaya	make sense?	15:11
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lennyb	absolutely	15:11
anteaya	thank you	15:11
anteaya	and thanks for asking	15:12
anteaya	does anyone else have anything they want to discuss today?	15:12
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ameade	i dont have anything in particular	15:13
anteaya	ameade: okay thanks	15:13
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anteaya	akerr: anything you want to discuss?	15:13
akerr	nope	15:13
anteaya	okay	15:13
anteaya	well I won't keep you if we have nothing to discuss today	15:14
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anteaya	can anyone think of a reason I shouldn't end the meeting?	15:14
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anteaya	well in that case, thank you all for your kind attendance and participation	15:15
anteaya	I look forward to seeing you next week	15:15
anteaya	enjoy the rest of your day/evening/night	15:15
anteaya	and thanks	15:15
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anteaya	#endmeeting	15:15
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rakhmerov	#startmeeting Mistral	16:00
openstack	Meeting started Mon Jun 1 16:00:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	16:00
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rakhmerov	hi	16:00
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akuznetsova_	hi there	16:05
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rakhmerov	hey :)	16:06
rakhmerov	not too many people today :)	16:06
rakhmerov	let's wait a few more mins	16:06
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NikolayM	hi everyone!	16:24
rakhmerov	hi	16:24
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rakhmerov	people got used to a different time :)	16:24
rakhmerov	16.20 UTC	16:24
rakhmerov	is there anyone else?	16:24
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rakhmerov	NikolayM, if nobody else come let's skip the meeting today	16:25
rakhmerov	we talked enough with you today :)	16:25
NikolayM	ok, yes	16:25
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rakhmerov	ok, let's finish	16:26
rakhmerov	see you tomorrow :)	16:27
rakhmerov	#endmeeting	16:27
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sarob	monring	17:01
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sayalilunkad	Hello	17:01
sarob	#startmeeting training-guides	17:01
openstack	Meeting started Mon Jun 1 17:01:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.	17:01
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sarob	roll call	17:02
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sayalilunkad	I'm here	17:02
sarob	;)	17:02
sarob	so we can chat about what i did yesterday	17:03
sarob	agena	17:03
sarob	#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides	17:03
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sayalilunkad	sure	17:03
matjazp	hey all	17:03
sayalilunkad	hello matjazp	17:03
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sarob	matjazp?	17:04
sarob	matjazp!	17:04
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matjazp	long time no see guys ;)	17:05
sarob	yeah	17:06
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sarob	so lets start with the last thing first	17:07
matjazp	I'm looking at agenda for today...	17:07
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sarob	#topic upstream training game	17:07
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sarob	matjazp: yeah, want to add something?	17:07
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matjazp	no, I'm all ears	17:08
matjazp	summit report and stuff :)	17:08
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sarob	cool	17:09
sarob	#link https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwXG-5naVl-xfkcyUlBMR1RPb0Z6MGQwZVdONE0wT3Zfck5QUi1yN1YzUzNhNGF0alZCaVU&usp=sharing	17:09
sarob	i did this yesterday with a couple of friends	17:09
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sarob	and this	17:10
matjazp	what's with slides link? not public?	17:10
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sarob	should be	17:11
sayalilunkad	Lego! Looks like you there was a good response	17:11
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sayalilunkad	matjazp: you will have to copy the second part of the link too	17:11
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sayalilunkad	it is broken	17:11
sarob	fixed	17:11
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matjazp	aha, ok	17:12
sarob	so i will refine it a bit	17:12
sarob	it was 4 hours	17:12
sarob	we can tune it down to 2.5-3 hours	17:13
sarob	by removing one of the cycles	17:13
sarob	we can spin it up to two releases as well to make it span 8hurs	17:13
sayalilunkad	this was a part of a training session or just lego?	17:14
sarob	im thinking 8 hours on legos might be too much	17:14
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matjazp	we should have all the material broken into smaller pieces so ppl can mashup their own presentations from our material. I think other will do same as you did	17:14
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sarob	lego is the training session	17:14
sayalilunkad	ah alright	17:14
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matjazp	upstream is already close enough for this	17:15
sarob	close enuf?	17:15
matjazp	we should divide our training guides too - maybe our "chapters" are too big to just take some slides about one smaller topic	17:16
matjazp	sarob: upstream has material broken down into more than 10 topics	17:16
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sarob	yeah, this helped me understand alot	17:16
sarob	between yesterday and last week	17:17
sarob	smaller sections	17:17
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sarob	with flexibility thought in	17:17
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matjazp	"close enough" is because you still had to make your own slides and not just take pieces of upstream and add some slides to stitch them together	17:17
matjazp	so maybe even smaller units are needed?	17:18
sarob	ah right	17:20
sarob	reed had not published this part of the training yet	17:20
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sarob	im going to patch these slides in	17:20
sarob	this week	17:20
sarob	im starting to think we should lead with legos	17:21
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sarob	it gets people's attention	17:21
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sarob	and explains how the community works through example	17:21
sarob	legos are expensive though	17:22
sarob	but available to rent many places	17:22
sayalilunkad	yeah it would be great to have slides to help trainers get started with legos	17:22
sarob	so coordination with user group sponsors would be good	17:22
sarob	required	17:22
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sarob	#action sarob patch upstream training game content this week	17:23
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sarob	whatcha thinking?	17:24
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matjazp	hmm.. it depends on the crowd	17:25
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matjazp	but if material is there, easy to reuse, it doesn't matter, you just adapt to the expected crowd	17:25
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sarob	sure	17:26
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matjazp	but yes, just add these into upstream, it will nicely round the material	17:27
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sarob	if we allow for each section to be independent then the teacher can decide	17:27
matjazp	btw, did you happen to have some time to look at the landing page?	17:27
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sarob	matjazp: no i havent	17:28
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matjazp	we were discussing things in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185946/	17:28
sarob	matjazp: i have been overloaded	17:28
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matjazp	but we also need a "static" custom html landing page that stitches these together	17:29
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matjazp	we should just reuse either ops guide or networkign guide	17:31
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sarob	ops was my choice	17:31
matjazp	and publish upstream links there	17:31
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matjazp	networking guide has links for bug reporting	17:32
sarob	i like that	17:33
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sarob	i dont like the ToC	17:33
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sarob	ops looks more professional	17:33
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matjazp	ops has static content	17:34
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sarob	id use ops as template with embedded videos of user group training sessions	17:34
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sarob	just a few	17:35
matjazp	already generated ebooks and html	17:35
matjazp	netowrking guide is RST based, so much closer to our needs	17:35
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matjazp	we're already streched thin, we should reuse as much as possible	17:35
sarob	matjazp: good point	17:36
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sarob	matjazp: i havent done it yet, so simple is better	17:36
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matjazp	upstream material is already good enough to be officially published	17:38
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sarob	i agree	17:39
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sarob	where is the source file	17:40
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sarob	im digging through git right now	17:40
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matjazp	maybe we can ask Andreas?	17:41
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sarob	yeah, good idea	17:41
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sarob	think this is it	17:42
sarob	https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/master/doc/networking-guide/source/index.rst	17:42
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sarob	there is also a build py that i would need to patch	17:43
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sarob	so the post gate publish job will pick up the content	17:44
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matjazp	yes this is "internal" content on the page, where is the rest of the template? in the build system?	17:44
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sarob	tools/publishdocs.sh calls tools/www-generator.py	17:46
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sarob	ill spend a few minutes to walk it	17:47
sarob	move on?	17:48
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matjazp	yes	17:48
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sayalilunkad	sure	17:48
sarob	#action sarob patch training-guides landing page for upstream content	17:48
sarob	#topic summit review	17:48
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sarob	#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-training-guides-design	17:49
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sarob	so the certification stuff	17:50
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sarob	is weighing heavy on my planning	17:50
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sarob	with matjazp and dguitarbyte getting involved with the certification stuff	17:51
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sarob	i can rest a bit easier that the certification wont go sideways	17:51
sarob	sayalilunkad: let me know how you want/could be involved as well	17:51
matjazp	sarob: it can always go sideways :)	17:52
sarob	sayalilunkad: if you just want to be kept in the loop thats totally okey	17:52
sarob	sayalilunkad: no pressure	17:52
sarob	matjazp: well, yes, but with y'all involved, less chance	17:52
sayalilunkad	sarob: sure. I can't commit much time right now but I will be in the loop and contribute where I can	17:53
sarob	sayalilunkad: np	17:53
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sarob	sayalilunkad: i wanted to extend the offer	17:54
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sayalilunkad	sarob: :)	17:54
sarob	sayalilunkad: with the desire to get the certification process influenced by involved community members	17:54
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sayalilunkad	sarob: yes, that is needed	17:55
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sarob	idea out there to create training specific for product managers	17:56
sarob	getting involved because of the product team work	17:56
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sarob	lost time	17:58
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sarob	i have a hard stop at 11am	17:58
sarob	y'all make some notes in the design etherpad?	17:58
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sarob	#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-training-guides-design	17:58
matjazp	ok	17:58
sayalilunkad	yuo	17:58
sayalilunkad	yup*	17:58
sarob	cool	17:58
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sarob	sorry i rambled so much	17:59
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sarob	i worked all weekend on tutorials	17:59
matjazp	np	17:59
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sarob	see you on the ml	17:59
sayalilunkad	bye	18:00
matjazp	bye	18:00
sarob	#endmeeting	18:00
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sarob	#startmeeting akanda	18:00
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openstack	The meeting name has been set to 'akanda'	18:00
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sarob	roll call	18:00
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sarob	o/	18:02
markmcclain	o/	18:02
rods	o/	18:02
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davidlenwell	o/	18:02
ryanpetrello	o/	18:02
adam_g	o/	18:02
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sarob	helow helow	18:03
sarob	agenda	18:03
sarob	#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/akanda	18:03
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sarob	working off summit etherpad	18:04
sarob	#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-akanda-design	18:04
sarob	but summarized on the agenda	18:04
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sarob	#topic six month release cycle verses minor releases	18:05
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davidlenwell	sarob: make sure you copy the etherpad content some place .. openstack etherpad isn't at all stable	18:05
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sarob	davidlenwell: yeah, i have	18:05
davidlenwell	l	18:05
sarob	davidlenwell: im going to create the bp this afternoon as well	18:05
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sarob	so i have a few side conversations about minor releases	18:06
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sarob	and how the big tent stuff impacts / changes / effects the release cycle	18:06
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sarob	im thinking with the changes afoot plus the newishiness of the akanda project	18:08
sarob	we should stick close to what the neutron project is doing	18:08
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sarob	as to not make us diff and maybe confusing	18:08
sarob	what y'all think?	18:08
adam_g	im not married to either approach, i just want us to have a release that coincides with the final openstack mileostne, which we can cut and maintain a stable branch from	18:09
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markmcclain	++	18:09
davidlenwell	I think staying behind neutron is our only real option.. but thts my humble opinion	18:09
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adam_g	we've already kinda aligned with the dominate versioning scheme (ie, 2015.1) so i think we should just follow that and revisit once other projects begin to migrate from that to something else	18:10
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adam_g	i'd hate to have to blaze that trail )	18:10
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sarob	anyone else opine?	18:11
sarob	adam_g: fire is bad	18:11
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adam_g	the neutron plugin basically couples us to the neutron release cycle, no?	18:12
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adam_g	the api changed already in liberty in a way that broke us	18:12
markmcclain	it does in terms of major branches, but do think we need to look at ways to get our features out sooner	18:12
markmcclain	October is both a long and short time away depending on the feature	18:13
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adam_g	ya..	18:13
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davidlenwell	true story	18:14
davidlenwell	considering how small our team is	18:14
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adam_g	it sounds like we need a hybrid approach	18:14
sarob	so we work to release new features in each milestones	18:14
sarob	adam_g: yeah	18:15
markmcclain	adam_g: I think for this cycle yes	18:15
markmcclain	for later cycles we should revisit	18:15
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sarob	sound like generally agreement to stay with current release style for this cycle	18:16
adam_g	is it possible to have non-release tags in our repository for our own use?	18:16
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sarob	adam_g: so tags that we do not create packages off of?	18:17
markmcclain	no idea what pbr will do with it	18:17
adam_g	ie, we follow the liberty cadence for 2015.2, but also add tags to signify minor releases?	18:17
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adam_g	sarob, yea, i guess.	18:17
adam_g	probably not an option	18:17
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clarkb	adam_g: markmcclain yes anything that isn't a version is ignored	18:19
clarkb	at least it was prior to the semver updates	18:19
markmcclain	clarkb: oh cool..thanks for clarifying	18:20
sarob	so how would that work exactly?	18:20
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adam_g	sarob, just gives us hte ability to create tags that are meaningful to us as a project but not the rest of the world/infra	18:22
sarob	setup.cfg meta version would be like 2015.2 or like 2015.2 foo	18:22
adam_g	sarob, im talking strictly git tags	18:22
sarob	adam_g: ah, okey so nothing to do with packagign	18:22
sarob	adam_g: right	18:22
adam_g	just an idea	18:22
sarob	adam_g: im good with that	18:22
sarob	most don't review tags too deeply	18:23
sarob	move on?	18:23
adam_g	with the multiple repos it would be handy for synchronization	18:23
adam_g	sure	18:24
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markmcclain	yeah.. tags would be nice	18:24
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sarob	#topic summit bp prioritization	18:25
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sarob	so i went through the etherpad	18:26
sarob	#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-akanda-design	18:26
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sarob	in the agenda	18:26
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sarob	and summarized them	18:26
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sarob	prob should add lbaasv2 api	18:28
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davidlenwell	on that subject.. wanted to pose a question to the group..	18:28
davidlenwell	what do we think about running lb on the same vm as the router?	18:28
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markmcclain	davidlenwell: for some workloads that makes lots of sense	18:29
ryanpetrello	yea	18:29
ryanpetrello	^	18:29
markmcclain	for others it could be bad	18:29
davidlenwell	sure.. probably optionally	18:29
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markmcclain	if the flavor framework lands	18:30
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adam_g	good use case for containers	18:30
davidlenwell	containers are a nogo.. lb's will be comprimised	18:30
davidlenwell	can't be trusted	18:30
adam_g	davidlenwell, eh?	18:30
davidlenwell	sure .. this was a long discussion early on in octavia..	18:31
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davidlenwell	an lb with a public ip is a target	18:31
davidlenwell	if its in a container .. that means you are leaving the host more vulnerable	18:32
adam_g	davidlenwell, so by that logic we shouldn't be adding that into the router vm either?	18:32
davidlenwell	probably not	18:32
adam_g	davidlenwell, i meant having VMs that host containers, with the ability to move containerized things between VM hosts	18:33
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davidlenwell	ahh .. well that does make sense	18:33
adam_g	but anyway	18:33
davidlenwell	okay.. we can move on now..	18:33
sarob	okay	18:33
sarob	so im thinking lm1	18:34
adam_g	huh?	18:35
sarob	liberty m1, last week of june	18:36
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sarob	bp as targeted for completion by m1	18:36
adam_g	ah	18:36
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sarob	:)	18:36
sarob	ive had all my coffee	18:37
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sarob	rug managd ssh key, doc updates, lbaasv2, juno backports, ci updates	18:38
sarob	for m1	18:38
davidlenwell	sounds reasonable	18:38
ryanpetrello	sounds reasonable to me	18:38
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sarob	rest for m2, last week in july	18:38
markmcclain	makes sense	18:38
sarob	any missing bp in the agenda?	18:39
adam_g	oslo updates	18:39
markmcclain	good call those are a must	18:39
adam_g	oslo.messaging migration is going to be a pretty significant change	18:39
adam_g	the way we use kombu directly doesn't fit well into the existing oslo.messaging abstraction	18:40
markmcclain	yeah.. was concerned about that	18:40
adam_g	im working on that now, will hopefully ahve some patches up this week	18:40
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sarob	so the m2 bp would be	18:41
sarob	m2 oslo, vm footprint, appliance HA, nodepool, appliance provision driver, octavia integ, rug reboot circuit breakers, VPNaaS with openVPN	18:41
davidlenwell	after lunch with doug last week.. I can see how it would be more challenging than we thought	18:41
davidlenwell	nodepool is going to be a big change in how the state machine works	18:42
adam_g	sarob, if it matters i think oslo stuff can go to first milestone, once messaging is done the remaining stuff is minimal	18:42
sarob	adam_g: im good with that	18:43
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ryanpetrello	yea, I'd say we should really spend some time thinking on the nodepool route	18:43
ryanpetrello	as davidlenwell mentioned, it's going to be a very notable change	18:43
adam_g	definitely needs a spec	18:43
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sarob	ryanpetrello: and working with ironic peoples	18:44
davidlenwell	I'm already working on better diagrams of the state machine	18:44
adam_g	sarob, what for/	18:44
sarob	adam_g: how they dealt/dealing with state mgmt	18:44
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adam_g	most of the stuff in sarob's list for m2 is spec-worthy	18:44
* sarob says specs all around!		18:45
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markmcclain	yeah the m2 stuff is much bigger than the concise things in m1	18:45
sarob	sooooo	18:46
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sarob	#info m1 bp rug managd ssh key, doc updates, lbaasv2, juno backports, ci updates, oslo	18:46
sarob	#info m2 vm footprint, appliance HA, nodepool, appliance provision driver, octavia integ, rug reboot circuit breakers, VPNaaS with openVPN	18:46
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adam_g	cool	18:47
sarob	ill start working up launchpad	18:47
sarob	y'all want to start a spec patch or two,	18:48
sarob	i wouldnt argue with it	18:48
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sarob	#topic any other random bits of business	18:50
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adam_g	my infra patches have started to land and theres a devstack job running in our experimental queue. will hopefully have that passing and voting soon	18:50
markmcclain	nice	18:50
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ryanpetrello	\o/	18:51
adam_g	granted its not going to be testing much after devstack, so we should think about what we want to run for tests	18:51
sarob	any ideas?	18:52
adam_g	we can identity some subset of tempest to run	18:53
adam_g	to start with	18:53
markmcclain	right	18:53
adam_g	and then start to fill out akanda.rug.tests.functional	18:53
markmcclain	did you see the review floating around for ovn.. where they're using a regex to controll which tests run vs updating the job def?	18:53
adam_g	markmcclain, havent seen it but ive done similar things for ironic	18:54
markmcclain	cool	18:54
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adam_g	one issue with regex is that new tests can slip into tempest that will fail against our deployment, but pass the regex, get run and block our gate :\	18:54
markmcclain	yeah.. that's def a risk	18:55
davidlenwell	that sounds unreliable	18:55
adam_g	we can figure something out	18:55
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adam_g	not sure how different the akanda deployment is to reference and if we'd have that problem often	18:55
markmcclain	we should be transparent except for any agent stuff	18:56
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sarob	anything else?	18:57
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markmcclain	not that I can think of	18:58
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sarob	#info adam_g has a devstack job running in our experimental queue	18:58
sarob	okay ill call it then	18:59
sarob	cheers!	18:59
sarob	#endmeeting	19:00
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