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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 15:00 |
| ityaptin | Hi! | 15:00 |
| sileht | o/ | 15:00 |
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| eglynn | o/ | 15:00 |
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| fabiog | hi | 15:00 |
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| prad | o/ | 15:01 |
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| idegtiarov | o/ | 15:01 |
| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
| eglynn | I, for one, welcome our new Canadian overlord :) | 15:01 |
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| gordc | eglynn: lol we're 'peacekeepers' | 15:01 |
| eglynn | LOL :) | 15:02 |
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| gordc | eglynn: want to take over controls or you have to drop for meeting still? | 15:02 |
| eliqiao | o/ | 15:02 |
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| _nadya_ | o/ | 15:02 |
| eglynn | gordc: no, no ... all your's :) | 15:03 |
| gordc | cool cool. | 15:03 |
| gordc | i think we have enough people. lets begin! | 15:03 |
| gordc | #topic kilo-rc1 status | 15:03 |
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| gordc | so kilo-rc1 is in process of being tagged | 15:03 |
| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/171152/ | 15:03 |
| gordc | err just noticed it failed... regardless. | 15:04 |
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| cdent | omen | 15:04 |
| gordc | lol | 15:04 |
| gordc | um. so yeah, test as much as possible against the proposed rc1 branch | 15:04 |
| _nadya_ | stop working, let's go home :) | 15:05 |
| gordc | if you see bugs, file them. criteria for rc bugs here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle#Other_release_candidates | 15:05 |
| gordc | _nadya_: it's 11am. for me...i'll call it a day at 12pm. :) | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | also we'll need the kilo release notes to be filled in shortly | 15:06 |
| eglynn | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo#OpenStack_Telemetry_.28Ceilometer.29 | 15:06 |
| eglynn | "Key New Features" in particular, I guess we can crowd-source that aspect? | 15:06 |
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| gordc | eglynn: good point. i'll work on setting a list of features we've added this cycle but yeah, if anyone has a comment on important stuff we've added this cycle, don't hesitate to add it | 15:07 |
| eglynn | coolness :) | 15:07 |
| gordc | anyone have stuff to add regarding rc1? or stuff they know they want for potential rc2? | 15:08 |
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| jd__ | o/ | 15:08 |
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| gentux | o/ | 15:08 |
| gordc | i'll take that as a no... carrying on. | 15:09 |
| gordc | #topic liberty blueprints | 15:09 |
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| gordc | liberty specs are open | 15:10 |
| gordc | just need to merge this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168321/ | 15:10 |
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| cdent | are we going to have a theme? it seems like a theme would be useful to focus effort. | 15:10 |
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| gordc | i don't have any idea regarding number of sessions we'll have at the summit this year but we'll do the same thing as last cycle by voting via docs | 15:11 |
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| eglynn | gordc: 2 fishbowl sessions, 8 working sessions, half day contrbutor meetup | 15:11 |
| gordc | cdent: hmmm.. i don't know if we have a general theme... i guess it'll come out based on specs proposed and what people vote on. | 15:11 |
| eglynn | gordc: compared to 6 sessions and a full day meetup in Paris | 15:11 |
| fabiog | gordc: is the doc already available, please? | 15:12 |
| eglynn | (of which the afternoon was mainly zombiefied) | 15:12 |
| gordc | eglynn: cool cool... more time | 15:12 |
| gordc | fabiog: i will do this after the meeting. | 15:12 |
| fabiog | gordc: thanks | 15:12 |
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| gordc | #action make summit session doc | 15:12 |
| gordc | cdent: did you have a theme in mind? | 15:13 |
| jd__ | we'll do a bit of Gnocchi I hope :) | 15:13 |
| cdent | No New Features | 15:13 |
| gordc | jd__: yep :) | 15:13 |
| cdent | â„¢ | 15:13 |
| eglynn | cdent: ... except in gnocchi :) | 15:13 |
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| gordc | cdent: do you have a list of unicode stuff memorised? | 15:14 |
| ityaptin | Folks, a little spec for liberty here -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168349/. | 15:14 |
| eglynn | it's an actual key on the Mac keyboard ;) | 15:14 |
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| gordc | interesting... so i guess from my pov, just don't add bloat would be my general theme. but yeah we can discuss plans via specs and session proposals. | 15:15 |
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| eglynn | gordc: re. summit scheduling ... one thing to watch out for would be clashes between conference sessions presented by ceilo contributors, and the ceilo design summit track | 15:15 |
| eglynn | do we know who's presenting when? | 15:16 |
| eglynn | cdent: did you get a timeslot for api-matters? | 15:16 |
| * gordc is happy eglynn's around to ask important questions. | 15:16 | |
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| gordc | i have two sessions which i need to check up on in regards to time. but yeah, if anyone has talks, let me or someone know so we can schedule accordingly. | 15:17 |
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| prad | gordc, i think one of ours is Monday so we should be ok on that one | 15:18 |
| gordc | prad: cool cool. | 15:18 |
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| gordc | anyone have anything else summit related? | 15:19 |
| jd__ | gordc: also spliting alarm/polling would be on my table | 15:19 |
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| cdent | weird, I became a zombie | 15:20 |
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| cdent | my timeslot for api-matters, last I checked, was 11 on tuesday | 15:20 |
| gordc | jd__: ack, cdent mentioned it, i think there's a few questions on what exactly is splitting so we should probably get a spec up to explain that. | 15:20 |
| cdent | or something like that | 15:20 |
| jd__ | you know how much I love specs | 15:20 |
| gordc | ildikov asked for fancy diagrams on a whiteboard | 15:20 |
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| gordc | jd__: i want it to be at least 5000 words too... in times new roman. | 15:21 |
| jd__ | yeah I'll do that for you guys 😬 💕 | 15:21 |
| cdent | we probably need to have a pre-spec discussion to spec what we are speccing | 15:21 |
| cdent | specifically | 15:22 |
| jd__ | with spectators | 15:22 |
| cdent | \o/ | 15:22 |
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| gordc | yeah, i think we should probably set up time for splitting work and the database config spec again. | 15:22 |
| eglynn | cdent: that's safe from clashes with ceilo track IIUC, as Tuesday is cross-project day | 15:23 |
| * gordc will create doodle once we have a rough idea formulated. | 15:23 | |
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| gordc | i should also mention there's an ops session proposed regarding ceilometer (and gnocchi). so if you've played with deployment, it might be good for you to join. | 15:25 |
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| gordc | i think jasonmyers was suppose to give us a time once that's all planned on ops side. | 15:25 |
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| gordc | anything else? | 15:26 |
| cdent | what's the emoji for a headshake? | 15:27 |
| gordc | summary: if you have a large/controversial idea. might want to have an open discussion to hash out ideas. | 15:27 |
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| gordc | #topic Gnocchi status update | 15:28 |
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| gordc | jd__: floor is yours. | 15:28 |
| jd__ | 👌 | 15:28 |
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| jd__ | we didn't merge much exciting stuff but we have things under review pretty interesting | 15:28 |
| jd__ | sileht wrote a branch that allow to track resources history | 15:29 |
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| cdent | etags! woot! | 15:29 |
| jd__ | i.e. if you resize an instance you'll have its historic of flavor | 15:29 |
| jd__ | yeah we'll have etags for resources and all | 15:29 |
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| jd__ | it's pretty impressive | 15:29 |
| gordc | cool stuff. | 15:29 |
| jd__ | fingers crossed it'll merge by next week and we'll do a rc1 | 15:30 |
| jd__ | we also struggle with MySQL a lot, it's painful to support | 15:30 |
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| jd__ | and I wait for a new version of oslo.db with a lot of fixes too to improve the driver | 15:30 |
| jd__ | that's pretty much all | 15:30 |
| jd__ | questions? | 15:30 |
| gordc | jd__: coolio. sounds like good progress. | 15:31 |
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| gordc | jd__: was just making a note to discuss use cases on how events and gnocchi will interact | 15:31 |
| gordc | jd__: we can discuss later. | 15:32 |
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| jd__ | sure | 15:33 |
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| gordc | #topic adding ZhiQiang Fan as core | 15:33 |
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| gordc | since we had overwhelming consensus, i'll be adding ZhiQiang Fan as the latest ceilometer core. | 15:34 |
| llu-laptop | remember we have a patch with lots of +1/+2s for that :) | 15:34 |
| gordc | i don't think he's here but i'll announce it on list. | 15:34 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: :) i just remembered we had an actual MAINTAINERS file that i could've edited. | 15:35 |
| gordc | but yeah, we're all aware of it. just announcing that formally now. | 15:35 |
| eglynn | coolness, congrats ZhiQiang Fan! :) | 15:36 |
| jd__ | cool | 15:36 |
| Zhongjun | lol | 15:36 |
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| gordc | #topic Open discussion | 15:36 |
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| llu-laptop | can anyone give me some clue about a specific ceilometerclient patch failure on gate? | 15:37 |
| llu-laptop | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169442/ | 15:37 |
| llu-laptop | http://logs.openstack.org/42/169442/3/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-src-python-ceilometerclient-juno/e29169a/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2015-04-08_18_23_53_045 | 15:37 |
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| llu-laptop | it's the only patch met that problem, others seems fine | 15:37 |
| jd__ | sounds like requirement failure | 15:38 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: we had a discussion in #celiometer/infra yesterday | 15:38 |
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| gordc | dhellmann: mentioned it relates to require stable branch for libraries now. | 15:38 |
| llu-laptop | my question is why others patches are fine, but this one got stuck constantly | 15:39 |
| jd__ | âž” grep ceilometer requirements.txt | 15:39 |
| jd__ | python-ceilometerclient>=1.0.6,<=1.0.12 | 15:39 |
| jd__ | that's in ceilometer juno branch | 15:39 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: yeah, i wasn't aware it was just this patch. i would think they'd all collapse | 15:39 |
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| jd__ | they should all collapse, did you recheck? | 15:39 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: regarding hbase testing. ityaptin will run tests on real env to be sure that it works fine | 15:40 |
| eglynn | llu-laptop: I looked into creating a stable/juno in python-ceiloclient earlier | 15:40 |
| llu-laptop | jd__: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170760/ passed the gate this morning | 15:40 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: on next week I guess. ityaptin, please confirm | 15:41 |
| eglynn | ... apparently I have powerz to push tags in python-ceiloclient, but not create branches | 15:41 |
| gordc | _nadya_: awesome, thanks for update. | 15:41 |
| ityaptin | _nadya_, gordc: Yes, I think we'll make it at next week. | 15:41 |
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| gordc | ityaptin: cool cool. would either one of you want to be the 'maintainer' of HBase in MAINAINTER file? | 15:42 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: i think that was because the gate doesn't run the same jobs as check | 15:42 |
| eglynn | gordc: are we agreed that we need a stable/juno branch in python-ceiloclient to resolve the build failure in the gate? | 15:42 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: rechecking another patch right now | 15:43 |
| llu-laptop | gordc: ah, didn't noticed that | 15:43 |
| gordc | eglynn: i think we do but if the recheck i just triggered doesn't fail it might be something else | 15:43 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: I think that ityaptin is a good candidate:) | 15:43 |
| gordc | eglynn: that said, i think i saw all the client gates broken yesterday so we probably do. | 15:44 |
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| eglynn | gordc: kk, I'll await the outcome of that recheck before forcing the issue with stable/juno | 15:44 |
| llu-laptop | eglynn: yes, I think we really need that | 15:44 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: cool cool, ityaptin: this is the file i'm talking about: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/MAINTAINERS | 15:44 |
| llu-laptop | we have some other oslo namespace patch got stuck by the icehouse/juno check jobs | 15:44 |
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| * eglynn was sorry to hear that sad news about Chris Yeoh | 15:46 | |
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| llu-laptop | really sad news | 15:47 |
| gordc | same. former ibm colleague. | 15:47 |
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| _nadya_ | folks, we have a patch about tests restructure https://review.openstack.org/#/c/160827/ . But it becomes expired in 10-30 minutes. Please review it even it has -1 from jenkins | 15:48 |
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| gordc | there's a place to contribute if you are inclined. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/060886.html | 15:49 |
| * eliqiao Chris Yeoh is eli's leader in ibm. I am sorry to hear about that and so sad. | 15:49 | |
| gordc | _nadya_: ok. will do. | 15:50 |
| gordc | will close this off in next few minutes... | 15:51 |
| vrovachev | _nadya_: thank you :-) Jenkins add -1 to patch with merge conflict, because patch for all unit tests. | 15:51 |
| ityaptin | gordc: Yes, I'm understand. I think I may handle it. Also, I have an interest in MongoDb storage and am going to research it better. Who will be maintainer of MongoDb? | 15:52 |
| gordc | ityaptin: i don't think we have an expert in that yet... maybe it's something we should hash out the coming cycle | 15:53 |
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| gordc | anything else pressing? | 15:53 |
| eglynn | nowt from me :) | 15:54 |
| gordc | happy hacking | 15:54 |
| gordc | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 9 15:54:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-04-09-15.00.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-04-09-15.00.txt | 15:55 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-04-09-15.00.log.html | 15:55 |
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| enikanorov_ | marun: hi, are you aware of often functional job failures? https://jenkins03.openstack.org/job/check-neutron-dsvm-functional/4178/console | 16:22 |
| marun | enikanorov_: I am now | 16:23 |
| enikanorov_ | ok :) | 16:23 |
| marun | enikanorov_: hmm, so kevin's patch merged? :/ | 16:23 |
| marun | enikanorov_: that doesn't look promising | 16:23 |
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| enikanorov_ | unfortunately I've not been tracking his patch or func test tree | 16:24 |
| enikanorov_ | i just know that my patches have been hitting that every other patchset | 16:25 |
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| enikanorov_ | marun: so is there a bug on that? if now, I'll file one | 16:33 |
| enikanorov_ | *no | 16:33 |
| marun | enikanorov_: please do. | 16:33 |
| marun | enikanorov_: maybe move convo to #openstack-neutron? | 16:33 |
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| enikanorov_ | marun: oh, oops. i didn't notice :\ | 16:34 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 9 17:00:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | hi, who's around this week? | 17:01 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz, andreaf, jogo, mkoderer, dtroyer: around? | 17:02 |
| dkranz | here | 17:02 |
| andreaf | o/ | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_April_9th_2015_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:02 |
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| mkoderer | mtreinish: yep partially :) | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ this week's agenda | 17:02 |
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| mtreinish | let's get started, maybe more people will show up a bit later | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Summit Session Brainstorm | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-qa-summit-topics | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | just wanted to have another reminder in the other meeting timeslot that the etherpad is up | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | so if anyone has an idea for a qa design summit session please put it on the etherpad | 17:04 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: how many sessions do we have? | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: not sure yet, I believe ttx is still figuring it all out | 17:04 |
| dkranz | k | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | I asked for 5 "fishbowl", (I think that's what he called them) 2-4 workgroup things, and a full day (maybe shared room) contributor day | 17:05 |
| dkranz | sounds reasonable | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | iirc, in paris we had 7, 0, and a full day | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | for comparison | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | ok, is there anything else on this topic? | 17:07 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Spec Reviews | 17:07 |
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| jogo | o/ | 17:08 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have any open spec reviews to discuss? | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:08 |
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| jogo | mtreinish: not sure if we need the grenade external interface session anymore | 17:13 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: yeah probably not, but I'll leave it on the etherpad for posterity | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | dpaterson: are you around? | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | err, I guess he's not online | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | I wanted to ask about the tempest cli spec, but I'll take that offline | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | I guess there are no open specs to discuss then | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | so let's move on | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | did the bot die? | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | err, whatever | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have any open bps to discuss? | 17:13 |
| mkoderer | seems like | 17:13 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, do you have a link on the open resource-cleanup patches? | 17:14 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: even though I don't have an environment with v2 turned off to actually verify that | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: heh, yeah I don't think I've ever run a v3 only env myself | 17:15 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes - it looks like I got them marked as test-accounts https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/test-accounts-continued,n,z | 17:15 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: maybe morganfainberg or jamie can help with providing a devstack formula for doing v3 only | 17:16 |
| fungi | dead? | 17:16 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes that would be great - that's another bp of mine actually #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/keystone-v3-jobs | 17:16 |
| fungi | it may be lagging again | 17:17 |
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| mtreinish | fungi: it stopped responding to my topic sets, and then openstack dropped from the channel | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | it just come back | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | #topic blueprints | 17:17 |
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| mtreinish | well now it works :) | 17:17 |
| fungi | sounds like freenode is having issues | 17:17 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: oh, if it's just the follow up cleanups for resource-cleanup (and the class attr for which creds to allocate) we probably can close that bp | 17:18 |
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| mtreinish | anyway, I wanted to mention the test-accounts-continued bp | 17:19 |
| dkranz | andreaf: is there anything needed for keystone-v3-jobs other than my fix for verify_tempest? | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: it's setting up devstack to be only v3 I thought | 17:20 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: oh, that part. ok. | 17:20 |
| andreaf | dkranz, mtreinish: yes, a v3 only devstack | 17:20 |
| mtreinish | for test-accounts-continued there are 2 items left a script to generate a accounts.yaml file and the network support to the file | 17:20 |
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| mtreinish | I've got a patch up for the network support which I'm still debugging | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | and hogepodge and sslypushenko said they'd tackle the generation script | 17:21 |
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| mtreinish | so hopefully we'll be able to close it out in a week or 2 | 17:21 |
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| * mtreinish ideally wants this in tempest-4 | 17:21 | |
| mtreinish | but that might not happen | 17:22 |
| hogepodge | I'll push sergei on it. If on Monday morning I don't get a commitment to have it done next week I'll take it on myself. | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | hogepodge: ok awesome, thanks | 17:22 |
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| mtreinish | ok are there any other bps to discuss? Otherwsie lets move on | 17:23 |
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| hogepodge | mtreinish: sergei also has a patch up to add ids to test classes too | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | hogepodge: ok, I'll take a look at that | 17:23 |
| hogepodge | I think it solves the uniqueness problem that defcore is facing while staying compatible with the current implementation. | 17:23 |
| hogepodge | It just tags classes with ids also, so the tuple is unique across refactoring | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | if they're 2 separate attrs being set on the test id I have no issues with that approach | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | not sure I really see the need but that's something else | 17:24 |
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| mtreinish | ok let's move on | 17:26 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 17:26 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: around? | 17:26 |
| dtroyer | am around although I've looked at DevStack very little this week | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | ok, no worries | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have anything else to bring up for devstack this week? | 17:27 |
| dtroyer | the screen timeout might be worth bringing up as it's a not-in-the-gate change, just to note that it's been shrunk way down | 17:27 |
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| dtroyer | https://review.openstack.org/171231 | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | yeah, it's .5 secs now right? | 17:28 |
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| mtreinish | oh, 3 secs | 17:28 |
| dtroyer | it's configurable so easy to handle if it crops up | 17:28 |
| dtroyer | ?? it was 3 sec before | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | heh, yeah I thought we dropped the default, whatever | 17:29 |
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| dtroyer | hmmm… ok. me too, but it can be lowered now I guess... | 17:29 |
| dtroyer | anyway, that's it for me | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | ok anyone else with something to discuss for devstack? | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 17:30 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: you're up | 17:30 |
| jogo | mtreinish: sdague is overhauling a lot of it | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | although I guess the big thing for grenade this week is sdague's refactor | 17:30 |
| jogo | mtreinish: I noticed the first half his patches landed | 17:31 |
| sdague | yeh, I'm a good chunk of the way through this refactor | 17:31 |
| jogo | the goal is to make it more modular | 17:31 |
| jogo | sdague: standing by to review the second half today | 17:31 |
| mtreinish | jogo: yeah dtroyer and I went through a bunch of patches this morning | 17:31 |
| sdague | as always, it's going to be longer than expected | 17:31 |
| sdague | I still am not sure why the neutron jobs are failing after the mysqldb thing | 17:31 |
| sdague | but I'll circle back around to that | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | sdague: once you figure that out, I'll be +A on the patch and start reviewing the series again | 17:32 |
| sdague | next thing is to eliminate stop-base, and get that into the project directories | 17:32 |
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| jogo | sdague: do these changes begin using the per service venv stuff? | 17:32 |
| sdague | jogo: no | 17:33 |
| sdague | that's orthoginal | 17:33 |
| sdague | the point here is to basically get rid of all the grenade global logic | 17:33 |
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| jogo | sdague: agreed just wondering | 17:33 |
| sdague | so it's just a series of looping over projects for different phases | 17:33 |
| sdague | and running their localized scripts | 17:33 |
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| sdague | so upgrade is modular now, I'm making stop modular atm | 17:34 |
| sdague | check-sanity probably moves into the stop phase | 17:34 |
| sdague | then the javelin -> resource scripts is last | 17:35 |
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| sdague | but that's doubtful it will be ready this week | 17:35 |
| sdague | also, juggling when you need access to various parts of devstack is "fun" | 17:36 |
| sdague | anyway, progress being made | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | yep, it's exciting to be finally making progress here | 17:36 |
| mtreinish | ok is there anything else to discuss on grenade? | 17:37 |
| sdague | not from me | 17:37 |
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| mtreinish | ok, then let's move on | 17:37 |
| mtreinish | #topic Bugs | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tempest-bug-report | 17:38 |
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| mtreinish | it looks like we're keeping on top of the incoming new bugs for the most part | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | it looks like jordanP had the triage rotation this week | 17:39 |
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| mtreinish | although I don't see him in channel so I guess asking him if anything interesting came up would be kinda pointless :) | 17:40 |
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| mtreinish | it also looks like the triage rotation is out of dates | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | I'll ask gmann to do another call for triagers to the ML | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have any bugs to discuss? | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | I'll take that as a no :) | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | ok let's move on then | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:42 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have a review they'd like to get more eyes on? | 17:42 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: so I changed the topic for my patches, now you can see them in #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:+bp/resource-cleanup+status:open,n,z | 17:42 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: I would like to get some more feedback on my idea of declaring required credentials as an array at class level | 17:43 |
| andreaf | and handling skips and credentials setup in test.py | 17:43 |
| dkranz | There are a bunch of pretty old things in the "Needs review, no negative feedback" category | 17:43 |
| dkranz | I mean "passed jenkins, no negative feedback" | 17:43 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok I'll try to take a look soonish | 17:44 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: thanks | 17:44 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: really the tempest review list doesn't seem that out of the ordinary to me | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | there are always a few that fall between the cracks | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: did you have any specific ones to raise up? | 17:45 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: no, there are just a bunch nearing two weeks old | 17:46 |
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| mtreinish | oh, heh I thought by old you meant like a month or more :) | 17:46 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: :) | 17:46 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: we should all take a look at a few | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: sure | 17:47 |
| dkranz | Nothing else from me | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | ok, does anyone else have a patch to bring up? | 17:47 |
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| mtreinish | ok then let's open the floor | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 17:49 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have something else to discuss? | 17:49 |
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| mtreinish | well, I guess if there isn't anything else to discuss we should end here | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 17:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 9 17:51:29 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-04-09-17.00.html | 17:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-04-09-17.00.txt | 17:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-04-09-17.00.log.html | 17:51 |
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| dtroyer | anyone here for the OSC meeting? | 19:02 |
| lhcheng | o/ | 19:02 |
| dtroyer | ping: dhellmann, stevemar, briancurtin, terrylhowe, lhcheng | 19:02 |
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| lhcheng | dtroyer: maybe folks are in pycon? | 19:03 |
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| dtroyer | lhcheng: I know stevemar is. I didn't put anything together for today, been busy with $DAY_JOB things | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | I don't think we need to wait a long time here… | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | lhcheng: will you be in Vancouver? | 19:06 |
| lhcheng | dtroyer: I don't have anything either. skip this one? | 19:06 |
| lhcheng | dtroyer: yeah | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer | cool | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | yeah, let's call it early… | 19:07 |
| dtroyer | thanks | 19:07 |
| lhcheng | dtroyer: about the os-cloud-config, I think it's pretty close | 19:07 |
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| lhcheng | just need stevemar to take a look at it | 19:07 |
| lhcheng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129795/ | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | right, I've been using it for a while, thanks for giving it a good look | 19:08 |
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| lhcheng | alright, see you next week then. | 19:09 |
| lhcheng | I can get a normal time lunch today :) | 19:09 |
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| lhcheng | dtroyer: later | 19:10 |
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| mikal | Nova meeting? | 21:00 |
| bauzas | _o | 21:00 |
| bauzas | uh | 21:00 |
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| bauzas | \o | 21:00 |
| mriedem | jogo: i'll get the bug open | 21:01 |
| mriedem | hi! | 21:01 |
| neiljerram | o/ | 21:01 |
| jogo | o/ | 21:01 |
| mikal | #startmeeting nova | 21:01 |
| n0ano | o/ | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 9 21:01:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mikal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| tonyb | Hey all | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| bauzas | \o even | 21:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:01 |
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| mikal | Greetings earth humans | 21:01 |
| alaski | o/ | 21:01 |
| mikal | I've decided that a power trip is as good as a holiday, so there's only one agenda item for the meeting today | 21:01 |
| mikal | RC1 | 21:02 |
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| mikal | I went to bed with there being a bunch of bugs open, but it looks like all but one got closed over night | 21:02 |
| mikal | So thanks for that | 21:02 |
| dims | o/ | 21:02 |
| mikal | dansmith: want to talk about the RPC version patch as the only remaining rc1 bug? | 21:02 |
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| bauzas | yeah we filtered some of them | 21:02 |
| mikal | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172152/4 | 21:02 |
| dansmith | mikal: sure, but what is there to say? 40 revisions down the tube, we should do it :) | 21:02 |
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| dansmith | haven't done it since havana | 21:03 |
| alaski | +1 | 21:03 |
| mikal | There's some talk about CI fail? We don't think its related to that patch? | 21:03 |
| dansmith | mikal: it's not | 21:03 |
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| dansmith | this patch passed CI an hour ago | 21:03 |
| mriedem | grenade is hosed, bug 1442367 | 21:03 |
| openstack | bug 1442367 in python-neutronclient "2.4.0 release destroys grenade since stable/juno isn't capped properly" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1442367 | 21:03 |
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| mikal | Ok, so if another core wants to +2 +W that patch, then I think that means we're ok for rc1? | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | we should be careful about reviewing hte change | 21:03 |
| mikal | mriedem: agreed | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i noticed someone slapped a +2 on there quick :) | 21:04 |
| mikal | I read it! | 21:04 |
| mriedem | riiiiight | 21:04 |
| mikal | Heh | 21:04 |
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| dansmith | alaski: and we're passing cells now, so we should be good as soon as grenade gets unfscked | 21:04 |
| mikal | Anyways, the release process is that once everythign is merged I give a git sha to release to ttx | 21:04 |
| alaski | dansmith: excellent. +2 from me then. once tests show up | 21:05 |
| mikal | So, we need to stop merging random stuff (not that I think we are at the moment) | 21:05 |
| claudiub | o/ | 21:05 |
| mikal | Then get this thing merged | 21:05 |
| bauzas | dansmith: mmm, are we passing cells ? o_O | 21:05 |
| mikal | Note the sha, and email ttx | 21:05 |
| dansmith | bauzas: the devstack job that we failed earlier | 21:05 |
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| mikal | So, any questions about that? | 21:06 |
| melwitt | bauzas: the "other" cells job | 21:06 |
| dansmith | melwitt: right | 21:06 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: oh right | 21:06 |
| dansmith | melwitt: the easy one | 21:06 |
| bauzas | melwitt: thanks, not the tempest one | 21:06 |
| melwitt | :) | 21:06 |
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| mikal | I'm going say that's no questions then... | 21:06 |
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| mikal | IIRC Liberty opens once infra has cut a branch, so there's a brief pause while that happens and then you can have at it again | 21:07 |
| mikal | So... | 21:07 |
| mikal | #topic Open Discussion | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| mikal | Anything else we need to cover? | 21:07 |
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| claudiub | yea | 21:07 |
| mriedem | xenserver ci | 21:07 |
| mriedem | busted | 21:07 |
| mikal | I'd like to remain super focussed on RC1 for today if possible | 21:07 |
| mikal | mriedem: how long as that been the case? | 21:08 |
| claudiub | there are a lot of discussions about the microversions on novaclient and people cannot reach an agreement | 21:08 |
| mriedem | over 24 hours | 21:08 |
| mriedem | mikal: like -1 on everything | 21:08 |
| mikal | claudiub: please hold for a sec | 21:08 |
| mriedem | and bob ball hasn't been around | 21:08 |
| mikal | mriedem: have we disabled the CI account yet? | 21:08 |
| bauzas | mriedem: due to a network issue AFAIK | 21:08 |
| mriedem | no, | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | should at least be non-voting | 21:08 |
| mriedem | bauzas: i hadn't heard specific | 21:08 |
| mriedem | *s | 21:08 |
| mikal | Ok, infra can help with that, but we should request it via an openstack-dev mailing list post | 21:08 |
| mikal | mriedem: do you want to do that given you have the details? | 21:08 |
| dansmith | mriedem: we just need to ask them to turn it off right? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | sure | 21:09 |
| bauzas | mriedem: that's a specific test which is failing AFAIK | 21:09 |
| mikal | dansmith: yeah, the reason for the paper trail is that infra will require the PTL to approve turning it back on again | 21:09 |
| dansmith | mikal: sure | 21:09 |
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| mikal | bauzas: so you're saying its not broken, just one test? | 21:10 |
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| mikal | bauzas: or are there two issues? | 21:10 |
| bauzas | mikal: it was one test on the last checks I did | 21:11 |
| bauzas | mikal: but it needs to be doublechecked for sure | 21:11 |
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| bauzas | and logstash can't help me :) | 21:12 |
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| mikal | Ok, sounds like mriedem is going to chase it down and send an email? | 21:12 |
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| mikal | mriedem: I tricked you into that, right? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | not a trick | 21:12 |
| mriedem | it's call delegation | 21:12 |
| jogo | VMware NSX CI seems to be down as well | 21:12 |
| mikal | Sigh | 21:12 |
| jogo | http://208.91.1.172/logs/168820/2/1428246278/testr_results.html.gz | 21:12 |
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| tjones1 | checking.... | 21:12 |
| mriedem | but vmware isn't voting | 21:12 |
| mriedem | is it? | 21:12 |
| dansmith | I thought it was | 21:13 |
| jogo | it looks like they know since it hasn't run on nova since yesterday | 21:13 |
| tjones1 | i thought it was too | 21:13 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:13 |
| mriedem | well, xen has been going nuts on a lot of changes for over 24 hours | 21:13 |
| mriedem | emai lsent | 21:13 |
| tjones1 | our guy is on it - just came back from sweden | 21:13 |
| mriedem | full of delicious chocolate | 21:14 |
| jogo | tjones1: any bugs in nova we should get in for Kilo? | 21:14 |
| tjones1 | no we are good | 21:14 |
| tjones1 | just wish list so too late | 21:14 |
| mikal | jogo: I think its too late anyways, give rc1 is "due" today | 21:14 |
| dansmith | yep | 21:14 |
| mikal | given even | 21:14 |
| jogo | good | 21:14 |
| tjones1 | :-) | 21:14 |
| mikal | Ok, so claudiub has been patient | 21:14 |
| mikal | claudiub: talk to us | 21:14 |
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| claudiub | mikal: no problem. :) so, there has been a lot of disscussions about the novaclient microversions : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/novaclient_microversions_design | 21:15 |
| claudiub | and andreykurilin is working on this, but there hasn't been a lot of agreement on the implementation | 21:16 |
| mriedem | clarkb: mikal told me to do it, i swear! | 21:16 |
| clarkb | my question is do you want no comments at all or just no -1s? | 21:16 |
| clarkb | no -1's is something nova has control over | 21:16 |
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| claudiub | mikal: i've lost track of the commits, since there were a lot of them and there are abbandoned commits | 21:16 |
| mikal | clarkb: hang ten a sec please | 21:17 |
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| mikal | Do we think this is complex enough to write a spec? I know we don't do those for client changes, but it might help move this discussion forwards. | 21:18 |
| melwitt | this is about the service catalog endpoint names that the current proposal wants to hardcode as "computev21" for example and make that a default | 21:18 |
| claudiub | so, the issue was that if a user requests a certain microversion, it should use the v3 endpoint | 21:19 |
| dansmith | everythin will be the same endpoint soon, right? | 21:19 |
| dansmith | v2 will go away | 21:19 |
| dansmith | v2.1 will become v2 | 21:19 |
| dansmith | and v3 will be gone, yes? | 21:19 |
| mikal | Yeah, I also thought those endpoint names were configurable by the deployer? | 21:20 |
| dansmith | that too, | 21:20 |
| dansmith | but I mean, we will only have one to configure anyway very soonb | 21:20 |
| dansmith | regardless of what you call it | 21:20 |
| dansmith | it will be what is currently v2.1 | 21:20 |
| bauzas | IIUC, v2.1 == v2 nope ? | 21:20 |
| melwitt | exactly. that's why I don't want novaclient using non-standard endpoint names other than "compute" "volume" etc | 21:20 |
| dansmith | I think that's right | 21:20 |
| mikal | melwitt: that sounds fair to me | 21:20 |
| melwitt | users can anyway pass the endpoint name they want using --service-type "computev21" if their deployer has set up such an endpoint in their catalog | 21:21 |
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| * dansmith nods | 21:21 | |
| alaski | agreed | 21:21 |
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| claudiub | it is true, but it is a bit overkill to use --service-type and --os-compute-api-version | 21:22 |
| mriedem | claudiub: you can set env vars | 21:22 |
| mriedem | OS_SERVICE_TYPE | 21:22 |
| mikal | claudiub: that's only for the case where a user wants a specific microversion, right? | 21:22 |
| dansmith | well the point is, we don't expect anyone will override it | 21:22 |
| dansmith | very soon | 21:22 |
| claudiub | mikal: yes | 21:22 |
| dansmith | mikal: hmm? what does this have to do with a specific microversion? | 21:23 |
| mikal | claudiub: why would anyone want a specific microversion? | 21:23 |
| melwitt | that's what's also confusing about novaclient IMO, is the service-type == keystone catalog endpoint name and compute-api-version == client object class | 21:23 |
| claudiub | mikal: for example, to use certain features. v2.2 offers x509 keypairs | 21:23 |
| mikal | dansmith: the etherpad claudiub linked to talks about the client wanting to request a specific microversion and how to configure that | 21:23 |
| dansmith | we do that in a header provided by the client, right? | 21:23 |
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| dansmith | using an endpoint for that is wrong, no? | 21:24 |
| mikal | dansmith: yes | 21:24 |
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| mikal | And I guess I had assumed that novaclient would always ask for the latest version | 21:24 |
| claudiub | mikal: the microversion is included in header, but if the endpoint is 'compute', it will go to the contrib modules | 21:24 |
| alaski | dansmith: I think the question is how to influence that header from the cli | 21:24 |
| mikal | Unless the endpoint it was talking to didn't do microversions at all | 21:24 |
| claudiub | aka v2.0 | 21:24 |
| dansmith | alaski: I see | 21:24 |
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| dansmith | I figured novaclient would always support the latest, by version number | 21:25 |
| mikal | claudiub: v2.0 will be going away in L though | 21:25 |
| dansmith | and fall back to 2.0 if that version is unsupported | 21:25 |
| bauzas | why an user could want a specific version but the latest ? | 21:25 |
| mikal | dansmith: yeah, that's what I thought too | 21:25 |
| dansmith | that's the only way it's sane, I think :) | 21:25 |
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| claudiub | bauzas: that will remain to be seen on how the api will evolve. the api will change in behaviour | 21:26 |
| mikal | Ok, so in all honesty I don't think we're going to solve this in an IRC meeting | 21:26 |
| melwitt | side note I'm not sure how ironicclient is doing the same, considering it also has microversions | 21:26 |
| mikal | For a start I think we need Kenichi involved | 21:26 |
| mikal | So at the very least this seems like a -dev mail thread to me | 21:26 |
| mikal | If not a spec | 21:26 |
| claudiub | bauzas: for now, I think the latest microversion is v2.3 and v2.4 is under review | 21:26 |
| mikal | melwitt: they're writing specs for it this week IIRC | 21:26 |
| melwitt | mikal: ah, okay | 21:26 |
| mikal | So yeah, I think we need to take this to the mailing list | 21:27 |
| dansmith | yep | 21:27 |
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| claudiub | ok | 21:27 |
| mikal | claudiub: thanks for bringing it up | 21:27 |
| mikal | Ok, clarkb talk to me | 21:27 |
| claudiub | mikal: no problem. and even though v2.0 will be gone in L, it will still remain in Juno and Kilo and we have to support them | 21:28 |
| mikal | mriedem: I assume clarkb is trying to decide what to do about your CI email? | 21:29 |
| mriedem | mikal: he said we can control the - | 21:29 |
| mriedem | *-1 | 21:29 |
| mikal | mriedem: do we think turning off -1 voting is enough? | 21:29 |
| mriedem | i do | 21:29 |
| mikal | mriedem: I didn't realize that was an option | 21:29 |
| mikal | And I have no idea how to do that thing | 21:29 |
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| mriedem | me neither | 21:29 |
| mikal | Ok, so clarkb has wandered off | 21:30 |
| mriedem | might just be a project-config toggle, not sure | 21:30 |
| mikal | But let's resolve to remove -1 but not +1 if we can | 21:30 |
| mikal | And work out how to do that after the meeting | 21:30 |
| mikal | If its hard, we'll remove all voting instead | 21:30 |
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| mikal | Anything else on that one? | 21:31 |
| tonyb | mikal: see your email | 21:31 |
| clarkb | you can remove +/-1 | 21:31 |
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| clarkb | I ask because mriedem specifically says "the reason we want this i the number of -1s" | 21:31 |
| mikal | clarkb: oh hai | 21:31 |
| mikal | clarkb: can you explain how to do that to mriedem and I once we're out of this meeting? | 21:31 |
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| clarkb | just remove the account from https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/511,members and then the account can't vote anymore | 21:31 |
| tonyb | mikal: it's in your email | 21:31 |
| mikal | Ok, I think that's my confusion | 21:32 |
| mriedem | i see it | 21:32 |
| mikal | I thought you said we could remove -1, but keep +1 | 21:32 |
| mriedem | on it | 21:32 |
| mikal | Which removing the account from that group wont do | 21:32 |
| mriedem | done https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/511,members | 21:32 |
| mikal | Ok, cool | 21:33 |
| mikal | Anything else for this meeting? | 21:33 |
| mikal | Or shall we go and do a RC1 thing? | 21:33 |
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| tpatil | Just wanted to inform we have submitted specs for improving performance of unshelving process for instances booted from image | 21:33 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135387 | 21:33 |
| tpatil | Targeted for liberty release | 21:33 |
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| mikal | tpatil: cool, I would expect L spec review to start up in the next week or two | 21:33 |
| tpatil | Please review this specs and give some constructive feedback. | 21:33 |
| tpatil | ok | 21:34 |
| dansmith | can we be done now? | 21:34 |
| tpatil | mikal: Thanks | 21:34 |
| mikal | I think we are | 21:34 |
| jogo | early mark! | 21:34 |
| mriedem | bye | 21:34 |
| mikal | #endmeeting | 21:34 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 9 21:34:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:34 |
| bauzas | bye | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-04-09-21.01.html | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-04-09-21.01.txt | 21:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-04-09-21.01.log.html | 21:34 |
| claudiub | o/ | 21:34 |
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