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| Daisy | Hello | 07:59 |
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| Daisy | Who is around for i18n meeting? | 07:59 |
| _anish_ | hi | 07:59 |
| camunoz_ | Hi Daisy | 07:59 |
| Daisy | Hi, _anish_ | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | Hi camunoz_ | 08:00 |
| Daisy | Nice to have you two here. | 08:00 |
| Daisy | Let's start | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 08:00:31 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | Hello, _anish_ and camunoz_ | 08:00 |
| ujuc | hi | 08:00 |
| epico | hi | 08:00 |
| _anish_ | Hi Daisy | 08:01 |
| Daisy | I invited Ilya Shakhat from stackalytics | 08:01 |
| Daisy | I don't know if he would appear. | 08:01 |
| Daisy | Today's topic is to discuss how to add our translators contributions to stackalytics. | 08:01 |
| _anish_ | If he comes then it would be really nice | 08:01 |
| epico | _anish_, :) | 08:02 |
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| Daisy | #topic Add a new metrics "translations" to stackalytics | 08:02 |
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| Daisy | _anish_ has spent some time on the source codes of stackalytics | 08:02 |
| Daisy | camunoz_ is from Zanata team who would provide us with APIs. | 08:02 |
| Daisy | It looks like we don't have Ilya Shakhat now. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | So let's start from the UI design firstly. | 08:03 |
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| Daisy | There are several drop down lists at the top of the web page. | 08:04 |
| ilyashakhat | hi! | 08:04 |
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| Daisy | Hi, ilyashakhat | 08:04 |
| Daisy | Nice to have you. | 08:04 |
| _anish_ | Okay, may be we should have translations in combo box | 08:04 |
| DeeJay1 | o7 | 08:04 |
| Daisy | Hi, DeeJay1 | 08:04 |
| Daisy | Nice to have you too. | 08:04 |
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| Daisy | ilyashakhat: our translation team would like to add our contributions to stackalytics. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | _anish_ is our python developers who has spent some time on the source codes of stackalytics | 08:05 |
| camunoz_ | Daisy, can you please share a url for the page you are discussing? | 08:05 |
| ilyashakhat | we can make it as separate metric | 08:05 |
| Daisy | camunoz_ is from Zanata team ( our translation tool ) who would provide us with APIs. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | http://stackalytics.com/ | 08:05 |
| ilyashakhat | is there some API already available? | 08:05 |
| ilyashakhat | I saw https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1092193 with discussions | 08:06 |
| uvirtbot | ilyashakhat: Error: Could not parse XML returned by bugzilla.redhat.com: HTTP Error 404: Not Found | 08:06 |
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| Daisy | camunoz_'s team could provide us some APIs to response translators/reviewers contributions in words. We have both translators and translation reviewers. | 08:06 |
| Daisy | camunoz_: could you provide a sample of these APIs? | 08:07 |
| camunoz_ | hi ilyashakhat, the API is ready for next release of Zanata... which will happen early next year | 08:07 |
| ilyashakhat | ok, so there can be 2 metrics, one for commiters and one for reviwers | 08:07 |
| camunoz_ | We could set up a server with a snapshot version for development | 08:07 |
| ilyashakhat | camunoz_: is there a doc? | 08:07 |
| camunoz_ | unreleased, but I can share it with you | 08:08 |
| ilyashakhat | it would be helpful | 08:08 |
| camunoz_ | sure thing | 08:09 |
| Daisy | ilyashakhat: we might not have versions, like kilo/juno. While we are working on documents translations, we just keep on translations. Will it affect ? | 08:09 |
| ilyashakhat | Daisy: Stackalytics will still split contribution by versions depending on the date of contrib | 08:09 |
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| Daisy | oh. That makes sense to us too. | 08:10 |
| ilyashakhat | everything done during Kilo timeframe will be assigned to Kilo | 08:10 |
| Daisy | Here is a JSON sample of APIs: | 08:10 |
| Daisy | {"myusername":{"zh-Hans":{"approved":0,"needReview":65,"translated":67,"rejected":0},"es":{"approved":0,"needReview":65,"translated":99,"rejected":0}}} | 08:10 |
| ilyashakhat | what is the username? is it launchpad id? | 08:10 |
| Daisy | no, it's a user id in Zanata. | 08:11 |
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| Daisy | Must it be a launchpad id ？ | 08:11 |
| camunoz_ | that's a user id in zanata... selected when signing in | 08:11 |
| ilyashakhat | then we need a way to map them to lp_id or email | 08:11 |
| _anish_ | Yeah | 08:11 |
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| Daisy | camunoz_: we may need to force our translators to have a launchpad ID and then use Open ID to register in Zanata. | 08:12 |
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| Daisy | I just don't know if it is acceptable for our translators. | 08:12 |
| ilyashakhat | I see | 08:12 |
| DeeJay1 | Daisy: yeah, I was just thinking about it | 08:12 |
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| DeeJay1 | Daisy: having a launchpad ID for translators would be good, because it is required for other things anyway | 08:13 |
| Daisy | DeeJay1: do you think our translators will like it? Register a launchpad ID and then use the Open ID to login to Zanata ? | 08:13 |
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| Daisy | OK, great, DeeJay1 . I just don't want to make our translators to feel troubles. | 08:13 |
| camunoz_ | we can configure Zanata to only allow logins using launchpad's openid | 08:13 |
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| ilyashakhat | we can use Zanata Id, but if translator has some other contribution into OpenStack then it wouldn't be matched, so OpenId would be easier | 08:14 |
| Daisy | Then the ID problem is passed. | 08:14 |
| camunoz_ | however, Zanata won't force them to have the same user id as in lanchpad (if that makes sense) | 08:14 |
| DeeJay1 | camunoz_: yes it makes sense, as long as we can get the launchpad ID from the api | 08:15 |
| Daisy | camunoz_: even login with Open ID, the user id could be different ? | 08:15 |
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| Daisy | camunoz_: is it possible to get lanchpad id ? | 08:15 |
| camunoz_ | Daisy, correct... because open id's are url-like | 08:15 |
| Daisy | or email? | 08:15 |
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| Daisy | ilyashakhat: would email work ? | 08:15 |
| camunoz_ | we could modify the api to return their email | 08:16 |
| ilyashakhat | email would work | 08:16 |
| Daisy | could email be mapped to launchpad ID ? | 08:16 |
| ilyashakhat | yes | 08:16 |
| ilyashakhat | LP has API call to get id by email | 08:16 |
| Daisy | So the email could work as same as lauchpad ID ? | 08:16 |
| ilyashakhat | yes | 08:16 |
| Daisy | camunoz_: Zanata will force them to have the same email as in launchpad ? | 08:17 |
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| _anish_ | Can we have mutiple email id's in zanata? | 08:18 |
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| camunoz_ | no... the user can change it when signing up... but in some cases it will suggest it if the open id provider offers it | 08:18 |
| camunoz_ | _anish_: currently just a single address | 08:18 |
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| ilyashakhat | if there will be few people that do not match to other contribution automatically we may add their profiles into Stackalytics manually, so it's not a huge problem | 08:19 |
| Daisy | Yes, we could suggest our translators . Just no technical ways to force. But I think it's all right. | 08:19 |
| _anish_ | Okay thanks | 08:19 |
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| Daisy | ilyashakhat: I see there are three different perspective: company, modules, and people | 08:20 |
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| Daisy | I would like to replace "modules" with languages | 08:20 |
| Daisy | Is it possible? | 08:20 |
| ilyashakhat | company is mapped automatically from email/hostname or from profile | 08:20 |
| ilyashakhat | module is project -- does it make sense to keep it -- to know what project has most activity? | 08:21 |
| ilyashakhat | I mean to know that Nova is better translated than Cinder | 08:21 |
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| Daisy | Viewing the translations in languages is more helpful than in modules. I don't mean modules don't help. Just languages are more helpful. | 08:22 |
| DeeJay1 | Daisy: we need a separate tab anyway, so we should have the following things release->project type->module->language->company->engineer | 08:22 |
| Daisy | Like, French translation team, Japanese translation team, and Chinese translation team. | 08:22 |
| ilyashakhat | I see | 08:22 |
| ilyashakhat | it wouldn't be that easy to implement, I need to think what would be the best way | 08:23 |
| ilyashakhat | do we need language or team? | 08:23 |
| Daisy | DeeJay1: if there are ways to resolve, I perfer not to have a separate tab. | 08:23 |
| Daisy | Language means team, ilyashakhat | 08:23 |
| Daisy | We have different language teams. | 08:24 |
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| ilyashakhat | and team is a group of engineers? | 08:24 |
| Daisy | Yes, ilyashakhat | 08:24 |
| ilyashakhat | like company | 08:24 |
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| Daisy | Yes, ilyashakhat | 08:24 |
| Daisy | But it's not able to tell their langauge team by emails. | 08:24 |
| DeeJay1 | Daisy: it's not "code contribution", so I don't see where it should fit if not into a separate 'tab' | 08:24 |
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| ilyashakhat | what kind of stats do you need for the team? | 08:25 |
| ilyashakhat | the same as for a single engineer? | 08:25 |
| Daisy | DeeJay1: You see even emails and vote are in the same tab. I don't see clear reasons to have a separate tab either. | 08:25 |
| Daisy | Same as for a company, I think. | 08:25 |
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| DeeJay1 | Daisy: point taken :) | 08:26 |
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| DeeJay1 | Daisy: hmm, but then the languages selection would break the ui flow | 08:26 |
| Daisy | I hope to see the contributions compare of different language teams. When I open a language team, I could see individual's contributions . Just like replacing modules by "languages". | 08:27 |
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| ilyashakhat | I'd probably put teams into company list, so it would be just another way of grouping people | 08:28 |
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| Daisy | You see the JSON sample: {"myusername":{"zh-Hans":{"approved":0,"needReview":65,"translated":67,"rejected":0},"es":{"approved":0,"needReview":65,"translated":99,"rejected":0}}} | 08:29 |
| Daisy | zh-hans and es are different languages. | 08:29 |
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| Daisy | So this user "myusername" have contributions to zh-hans translation and es translation. | 08:29 |
| ilyashakhat | so he should be in both teams? | 08:30 |
| Daisy | ilyashakhat: I cannot understand: I'd probably put teams into company list, so it would be just another way of grouping people | 08:30 |
| ilyashakhat | Daisy: I'm thinking from Stackalytics UI perspective... | 08:30 |
| camunoz_ | ilyashakhat: to answer your question.. yes, that user would be on both teams. In practice that may be rare, but it's possible | 08:30 |
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| Daisy | Yes, a people could contribute to different langauges, also most of our contributions belong to only 1 team. But it's not a force that people could only contribute to 1 language if he knows many langauges. | 08:31 |
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| ilyashakhat | ok, I'll think how to implement this better | 08:31 |
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| Daisy | thanks, ilyashakhat | 08:31 |
| _anish_ | Thanks | 08:32 |
| Daisy | Could you give us some guidance if we want to add a metrics? | 08:32 |
| Daisy | What codes should we take a look? | 08:32 |
| ilyashakhat | you will need to add a module that communcates with API and transforms data into flat records with mandatory fields userid, project, date, | 08:34 |
| ilyashakhat | for example like https://github.com/stackforge/stackalytics/blob/master/stackalytics/processor/bps.py | 08:34 |
| ilyashakhat | which retrievs bugs from LP | 08:34 |
| _anish_ | Do you have have doc that shows records in memcashd? | 08:35 |
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| ilyashakhat | there are no docs :( | 08:36 |
| _anish_ | Thanks :( | 08:36 |
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| ilyashakhat | records look like this: https://github.com/stackforge/stackalytics/blob/master/tests/unit/test_record_processor.py#L1271-L1295 | 08:37 |
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| _anish_ | Aha thanks :) | 08:37 |
| ilyashakhat | so it's a dict, some fields are common and must present (id, userid, date module), others are arbitrary | 08:38 |
| ilyashakhat | and used only when we show activity log | 08:38 |
| _anish_ | Okay | 08:38 |
| Daisy | _anish_: if you have any questions to ilyashakhat, please ask. Now it's a good chance. | 08:39 |
| Daisy | ilyashakhat: where is your location? I mean, the time zone. | 08:39 |
| camunoz_ | ilyashakhat: for Zanata's Rest API docs: https://zanata.ci.cloudbees.com/job/zanata-api-site/site/zanata-common-api/rest-api-docs/resource_StatisticsResource.html#path__stats_project_-projectSlug-_version_-versionSlug-_contributor_-username-_-dateRange-.html | 08:39 |
| camunoz_ | that's the one for contributions statistics | 08:39 |
| ilyashakhat | GMT+3, but I start work at 09:00 UTC | 08:39 |
| Daisy | ok. Glad to know it. Then I know when I could get you in IRC. | 08:40 |
| Daisy | DeeJay1, _anish_ , camunoz_ : how do you think if we don't have company perspective? We replace language team with company? Then the current stackalytics design won't be changed too much. | 08:40 |
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| DeeJay1 | Daisy: we can try as a start | 08:40 |
| Daisy | We have languages, modules, and then people. | 08:41 |
| _anish_ | Seems good for start | 08:41 |
| camunoz_ | I would say (in my ignorance) that language team is more important from the translations perspective | 08:41 |
| ilyashakhat | camunoz_: is it possible to retrieve stats per project but without specifying username? | 08:41 |
| Daisy | I just don't know if company bosses would like to see their translators contributions. | 08:41 |
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| camunoz_ | ilyashakhat: yes, look at https://zanata.ci.cloudbees.com/job/zanata-api-site/site/zanata-common-api/rest-api-docs/resource_StatisticsResource.html for the current stats-related offerings | 08:43 |
| ilyashakhat | we'll keep companies, otherwise we'll lose our main users - bosses :) | 08:43 |
| Daisy | I agree, camunoz_ , language team is important. Company is also important because if bosses could see their companies contributions could be recognized, they will be happy to send translators to the community. | 08:44 |
| ilyashakhat | camunoz_: thanks, I'll investigate | 08:44 |
| Daisy | ok. Let's see our next steps. | 08:45 |
| camunoz_ | ilyashakhat: just ping me if you have any questions (I hang around #zanata) | 08:45 |
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| Daisy | ilyashakhat: please help us to think about how to add "language teams" | 08:45 |
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| Daisy | We could be reached by email "openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org" or the IRC channel "openstack-translation" | 08:46 |
| ilyashakhat | ok | 08:46 |
| Daisy | if there are any requests to APIs, I'm sure camunoz_ and his team would help. | 08:47 |
| _anish_ | Ilyashakhat,https://github.com/stackforge/stackalytics/blob/master/stackalytics/processor/config.py in this configuration is default . son | 08:47 |
| _anish_ | Automatically generated? | 08:47 |
| Daisy | _anish_: please continue to study the source codes of stackalytics. If you have questions, go to ilyashakhat . | 08:47 |
| camunoz_ | Daisy: I could start looking at Zanata forcing the email address if it's given by the open id provider (we would need to find out if launchpad offers this) | 08:48 |
| Daisy | thanks, camunoz_ | 08:48 |
| ilyashakhat | no, default_data is https://github.com/stackforge/stackalytics/tree/master/etc -- it's a single place with user profiles, project config, etc | 08:48 |
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| Daisy | DeeJay1: if you have spare time, you are welcomed to do anything you like and join our discussion. :) | 08:48 |
| _anish_ | Thanks | 08:48 |
| DeeJay1 | Daisy: sure | 08:49 |
| Daisy | Are we done today? | 08:49 |
| ilyashakhat | _anish_: for dev env you may use test_default_data.json | 08:49 |
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| _anish_ | Aha okay thanks did not know that | 08:49 |
| ilyashakhat | I don't have any questions | 08:49 |
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| Daisy | OK, guys. Thank you all very much to attend this hot discussion meeting. I really appreciate much. Let's work together to push this happen. | 08:51 |
| _anish_ | I will ask questions after meeting :) | 08:51 |
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| _anish_ | Thank you all | 08:52 |
| Daisy | Our tens of translators (and bosses ) would appreciate our works when we get them done. | 08:52 |
| camunoz_ | sounds good! | 08:52 |
| Daisy | So I will end this meeting now, and let's keep contact. | 08:53 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 08:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 08:53:18 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-12-18-08.00.html | 08:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-12-18-08.00.txt | 08:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-12-18-08.00.log.html | 08:53 |
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| eglynn | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 15:00:42 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
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| cdent | o/ | 15:00 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:00 |
| DinaBelova | o/ | 15:00 |
| _elena_ | o/ | 15:00 |
| fabiog | hello | 15:00 |
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| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
| nealph | o/ | 15:01 |
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| eglynn | hey y'all | 15:01 |
| eglynn | #topic Kilo-1 status | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo-1 status (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:01 | |
| idegtiarov | o/ | 15:01 |
| eglynn | nearly there! | 15:01 |
| eglynn | just waiting on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142435/ to land | 15:02 |
| ildikov | eglynn: it looks fine now | 15:02 |
| DinaBelova | no these py33 failures, yeah | 15:02 |
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| ildikov | eglynn: hopefully in 7 mins it will be landed :) | 15:02 |
| eglynn | ildikov: thanks for the quick fix on the sphinx issue | 15:02 |
| eglynn | yeap, then we can tag it and bag it :) | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | thanks all for the effort in getting the last few patches over the line for kilo-1 | 15:03 |
| ildikov | eglynn: np, we will revert it after having the new pbr, with that py33 job should be fine | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | yeap I believe Thierry is chasing a new pbr release | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | #topic swift middleware disposition | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "swift middleware disposition (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:04 | |
| sileht | o/ | 15:04 |
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| eglynn | cdent, gordc - gentlemen, the floor is yours :) | 15:04 |
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| cdent | Not much to say other than: we need some push on this to make sure it actually happens. There are a few different issues to resolve. | 15:04 |
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| cdent | One is that the the swift middleware is just a pita. | 15:04 |
| cdent | The other is that the way in ceilometer installs into swift's pipeline in devstack is not something that makes Sean et al happy. | 15:05 |
| ityaptin | o/ | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, well, I suppose this does not make anyone happy | 15:05 |
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| cdent | There's some debate on the review of the spec (ref in a sec) which probably needs more voice, including any voice from swift people that we can dredge up. | 15:05 |
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| gordc | cdent: did you hear back from swift team whether they can own metrics? | 15:05 |
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| cdent | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142129/ | 15:06 |
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| DinaBelova | but frankly speaking I supposed that the way how it looks now was proposed by one of the swift folks some time ago.. | 15:06 |
| cdent | I spoke with notmyname and he said he was interested in helping, but at the exact moment I was talking to him he was in the middle of million context switches so I gave him the relevant links and left him to it. | 15:06 |
| eglynn | so two separate issues in my mind here | 15:06 |
| eglynn | ... one is the scalability of emitting a notification for each API call (IIUC) | 15:06 |
| eglynn | ... the other is injecting code from ceilometer into swift | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | presumably we're only talking about addressing the latter issue? | 15:07 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah | 15:07 |
| cdent | I think the latter issue is the one we hope to solve. If the former is actually an issue (that is, if the notification system can't handle it then that is a major bug) | 15:07 |
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| gordc | eglynn: i have no idea about scalability of it... it wouldn't be the first service that emits a notification on every single api call (ie. keystone) | 15:07 |
| eglynn | OK, so the ceilometermiddleware repo seems like a sane approach here and follows an established pattern with keystone | 15:08 |
| ildikov | eglynn: I guess the latter is the kind of bigger issue, separation would be better | 15:08 |
| fabiog | cdent: swift can create a huge amount of notifications | 15:08 |
| cdent | It's a message bus, fabiog, if it can't handle a huge amount of notifications it is _fundamentally_ broken | 15:08 |
| fabiog | cdent: you will get a message for every file and folder, think this in a petabyte of data | 15:08 |
| cdent | (anyway, I think that's an issue to address after extracting the code to somewhere else) | 15:09 |
| eglynn | not intending to derail the conversation into the scalability side | 15:09 |
| eglynn | let's concentrate on the location aspect | 15:09 |
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| eglynn | so, on the question of the swift team owning their own metrics | 15:10 |
| llu-laptop | cdent: agreed | 15:10 |
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| eglynn | does that imply that they take over maintaining the swift middleware? | 15:10 |
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| cdent | I think that if that can be negotiated, that would be ideal, but we haven't had the conversations to know about the odds on making that happen. I put this on the agenda to see if someone here has good connections there. | 15:11 |
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| cdent | #action Since no one is leaping forward I guess that's no so I'll talk to notmyname some more about swift and the middleware | 15:12 |
| eglynn | cdent: thanks | 15:12 |
| eglynn | I suspect the most acheivable thing would be that we move the middleware into a new ceilometermiddleware repo, and keep the maintainership of the swift m/w | 15:12 |
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| eglynn | from a historical perspective, I've a vague recollection of there being resistence on the swift side to emitting these notifications directly | 15:13 |
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| eglynn | ... jd__ might have a clearer recollection of that | 15:13 |
| * cdent sings: history never repeats... | 15:14 | |
| eglynn | cdent: LOL :) | 15:14 |
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| fabiog | eglynn: yes you are right, they do not like oslo that much | 15:14 |
| eglynn | from a release/packaging PoV, implications for the seperate ceilometermiddleware repo? | 15:14 |
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| eglynn | would releases be totally decoupled from the main release cycle? | 15:15 |
| * cdent hopes so | 15:15 | |
| eglynn | (like the python-ceilometerclient is) | 15:15 |
| eglynn | yeah | 15:15 |
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| eglynn | so we'd tag on demand, push to pypi, packagers pull the source from tarballs.openstack.org | 15:16 |
| ildikov | eglynn: that would make sense IMHO | 15:16 |
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| cdent | we'll start a trend! | 15:16 |
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| eglynn | also no stable/<previous> branch in the ceilo m/w repo? | 15:16 |
| * cdent nods | 15:16 | |
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| eglynn | so effectively that just pushes the stable-maint burden onto the downstream packagers | 15:17 |
| eglynn | but prolly OK if rarely needing backported fixes | 15:17 |
| eglynn | (a relatively small amount of relatively stable code) | 15:17 |
| cdent | one would hope that once correct it would never need to change | 15:18 |
| * cdent laughs at self | 15:18 | |
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| eglynn | OK, so seems like we have an initial approach here (pending some side discussions with the swiftsters) | 15:20 |
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| eglynn | cdent, gordc: ok to move on? | 15:21 |
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| gordc | yep | 15:21 |
| cdent | ✔ | 15:22 |
| eglynn | #topic TSDaaS/gnocchi | 15:22 |
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| eglynn | recently landed https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:stackforge/gnocchi,n,z | 15:22 |
| eglynn | notables include ... | 15:23 |
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| eglynn | sileht's cross-metric aggregation support | 15:23 |
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| eglynn | amalagon's support for rolling stats in a custom aggregator (\o/!) | 15:23 |
| eglynn | jd__'s nice clean up of the metric<->resource association | 15:24 |
| eglynn | also ityaptin has resurrected the influx driver, thanks for that! | 15:24 |
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| sileht | the ceph driver need some review | 15:25 |
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| eglynn | sileht: I'm a newbie to ceph, but I'll have a look FWIW | 15:25 |
| eglynn | nellysmitt: any progress on finding a solid topic for your internship? | 15:26 |
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| nellysmitt | hi eglynn, no ideas yet :( | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, not yet | 15:26 |
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| DinaBelova | we've decided to start with change proposed by jd__ and actually debugging devstack much :D | 15:27 |
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| DinaBelova | because it simply doesn't want to work properly | 15:27 |
| eglynn | OK that sounds like a reasonable way of getting nellysmitt's hands wet | 15:27 |
| DinaBelova | hehe, indeed | 15:27 |
| DinaBelova | nellysmitt is posting to her blog about the issues she finds | 15:28 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: I couldn't setp up devstack yesterday or a day before either... :S | 15:28 |
| nellysmitt | and a little bit of headache also :D | 15:28 |
| cdent | link for the blog? | 15:28 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: "debugging devstack" ... gnochhi-specific issues, or more general devstack weirdness? | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova | http://smittnelly.blogspot.be - lots of them :D | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn - both | 15:28 |
| ildikov | nellysmitt: business as usual ;) | 15:28 |
| eglynn | cool | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova | last mostly workable devstack killed keystone | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova | the one before it - nova | 15:28 |
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| DinaBelova | ildikov, hehe | 15:28 |
| DinaBelova | currently screen with devstack got completely locked after ceilometer meter-list | 15:29 |
| DinaBelova | >_< | 15:29 |
| eglynn | nellysmitt: yeah, excellent idea to blog often ... the OPW admins tend to use blog activity as a metric on "engagement" | 15:29 |
| nellysmitt | yeah, also helps to remember stuff | 15:30 |
| eglynn | nellysmitt: are you using your own h/w baremetal style, or local VMs, or VMs spun up in a public cloud? | 15:30 |
| cdent | DinaBelova: find me later about devstack issues, I love(?) trying to fix them. | 15:30 |
| eglynn | (as your dev-env) | 15:30 |
| cdent | nellysmitt: you too | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, these issues are not concrete ones | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | at least yet | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | ;( | 15:31 |
| nellysmitt | oki, thx, after complete reinstall :D | 15:31 |
| cdent | I get that, those are the fun ones :) | 15:31 |
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| DinaBelova | nellysmitt, are you running devstack on local vm? | 15:31 |
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| nellysmitt | both, have several vms on mac and on a ubuntu laptop | 15:32 |
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| DinaBelova | nellysmitt, so you're running them yourself, not from the public cloud | 15:32 |
| DinaBelova | ok | 15:32 |
| nellysmitt | one fedora vm also | 15:33 |
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| nellysmitt | and all of them have different issues somehow | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | all of them do not want to work, but in different ways :D | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | yeah | 15:33 |
| nellysmitt | :D | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | the most funny one was wirth nova availability zones | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | with* | 15:34 |
| eglynn | nellysmitt: would it be a good idea to line up your choice of distro (f20, trusty, precise, whatever) with the one that DinaBelova uses in her dev-env? | 15:34 |
| eglynn | nellysmitt: i.e. to reduce the number of variables in play | 15:34 |
| * DinaBelova is having ubuntu 14.04 | 15:34 | |
| DinaBelova | afair Nelly had this one as well | 15:34 |
| eglynn | a-ha, k | 15:34 |
| nellysmitt | yup | 15:34 |
| nellysmitt | the main one | 15:34 |
| DinaBelova | so-o-o, it's just openstack magic | 15:35 |
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| DinaBelova | :) | 15:35 |
| cdent | #action: less magic | 15:35 |
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| eglynn | OK, so let's all try to get nellysmitt over the hump to a running devstack | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, hehe, cool :) | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | it'll be nice | 15:35 |
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| DinaBelova | after we finally fixed keystone, we lost all devstack vm | 15:36 |
| DinaBelova | ;( | 15:36 |
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| eglynn | drats | 15:36 |
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| * DinaBelova looking to urban dictionary | 15:37 | |
| DinaBelova | a-ha, got it | 15:37 |
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| eglynn | I haven't spun up a devstack in a while, been mainly doing packstack-mediated installs of the stable/juno packages recently | 15:37 |
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| eglynn | are other folks seeing similar issues with fresh devstacks? | 15:37 |
| nealph | eglynn: yes, keystone in particular. | 15:37 |
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| * nealph thought it was just me. | 15:38 | |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, not me... although my freshest devstack is ~1 week old | 15:38 |
| ildikov | eglynn: keystone issue | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | hehe | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | smth like too many tries to get tokens? | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | while the polling? | 15:38 |
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| eglynn | k, I'm gonna spin up a fresh devstack after the meeting and have a look | 15:38 |
| cdent | i've started one now and I'm having lots of dependency problems :( | 15:39 |
| nealph | cdent: yep, those too. :( I reverted to stable/juno | 15:39 |
| DinaBelova | we've fixed it with os_auth_url=http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0 directly - although, it's hacky a bit, this should not be influencing the keystone connection... but that worked | 15:39 |
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| jd__ | o/ | 15:40 |
| llu-laptop | DinaBelova: are you behind a firewall using proxy? | 15:40 |
| nealph | DinaBelova: ^^^^ in that setup it likely would influence the connection....i.e. no_proxy default. | 15:41 |
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| cdent | #action: everybody get devstack working nicely again | 15:41 |
| cdent | (we're not going to solve it right now) | 15:41 |
| DinaBelova | llu-laptop, nope! | 15:41 |
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| eglynn | cdent: agreed | 15:42 |
| ildikov | cdent: +1 | 15:42 |
| eglynn | right-o, better move on, interesting next topic on the agenda | 15:42 |
| DinaBelova | cdent ++ | 15:42 |
| eglynn | #topic quick gabbi intro | 15:42 |
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| cdent | ah, that's me | 15:42 |
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| eglynn | cdent: yeap, the floor is yours sir! | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, hehe :) even one bug found and fixed! | 15:43 |
| cdent | I just wanted to let people know I've got a working spike of the harness that will drive: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer-specs/blob/master/specs/kilo/declarative-http-tests.rst | 15:43 |
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| cdent | I ended up calling it gabbi (because it talks) but it ought to be a good backronym at some point: https://github.com/cdent/gabbi | 15:43 |
| cdent | There's a review up for its integration with ceilo: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142594/ | 15:43 |
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| eglynn | a-ha, I was wondering about the name :) | 15:44 |
| cdent | There's no intention that that be the final integration, but rather a place where we can play around with it and figure out what's missing or broken. I couldn't figure out a better way to share a branch | 15:44 |
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| cdent | It's already found one tiny buglet in the API, which I think we probalby already knew about: / reference /v2 but /v2 is a 404 | 15:44 |
| eglynn | I gave it a quick run earlier and tripped over http://paste.openstack.org/show/152780 | 15:45 |
| nealph | cdent: silly question, but it assumes a working tox setup? | 15:45 |
| eglynn | (may well be specific to my dev-env, or a dumb setup error on my part) | 15:45 |
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| * nealph has horrible issues with tox and proxies | 15:45 | |
| cdent | nealph: It doesn't have to use tox, it's just I'm trying to make the formal testing folk happy by using the usual harness and tools | 15:45 |
| cdent | if you look at the tox.ini you can just do what it says: install the requirements and run the subunit.run or testtools.run command | 15:46 |
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| nealph | sweet. | 15:46 |
| cdent | eglynn: remind me about that later, it looks like the wrong thing is being trapped | 15:46 |
| eglynn | cdent: coolness, thanks! | 15:46 |
| cdent | Anyway: I just wanted to give people the heads up because I figure this is going to be pretty useful but if want to get it right, early, then we'll need to mess around with it. | 15:47 |
| fabiog | eglynn: I would like to give an update on the mid-sprint org details before the end of meeting, please | 15:47 |
| llu-laptop | nealph: proxychains could help in setting tox env behind proxy | 15:47 |
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| * cdent has said what he wanted to say | 15:48 | |
| eglynn | so the next step presumably is to start iterating on the ceilometer/gabbi/gabbits/basic.yaml to beef up the range of APIs covered? | 15:48 |
| eglynn | also would it make sense to experiment with testing the gnocchi API in this way? | 15:48 |
| cdent | eglynn: yes | 15:48 |
| cdent | and yes | 15:48 |
| eglynn | (might be a good way for nellysmitt to start learing the gnocchi API, perhaps?) | 15:48 |
| cdent | in fact I suspect that gnocchi will be a good deal easier to test since it's API is much more two way | 15:48 |
| cdent | its | 15:48 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, after devstack will start working :D | 15:49 |
| eglynn | coolness :) | 15:49 |
| cdent | (I just got one working by disabling horizon) | 15:49 |
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| eglynn | a-ha, yeah, I usually do that by default anyway | 15:49 |
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| eglynn | cdent: cool, thanks for the quick intro, sounds like this is something that could be adopted in multiple projects | 15:51 |
| nealph | cdent: those were the dependency issues, yes? | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | everyone is having own magical ways of devstack repair | 15:51 |
| eglynn | #topic update on the mid-sprint org details | 15:51 |
| cdent | nealph: yes eglynn: yes | 15:51 |
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| fabiog | so I update the page with the agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/galway-jan-2014-ceilometer-sprint | 15:51 |
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| fabiog | adding logistics and an attendance list. For now I confirmed me and eglynn | 15:51 |
| fabiog | please add your name as soon as you are confirmed to come | 15:52 |
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| fabiog | we also have a block reservation at the Radisson | 15:52 |
| fabiog | so if you are interested in staying there at the HP rate, please let me know and I will put your name to one of the block reservations and give me check in/out dates | 15:52 |
| ildikov | fabiog: thanks for the travel details :) | 15:53 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: excellent, €92 is a good rate for Galway, thanks for making that available | 15:53 |
| fabiog | we are going to have a dinner that is already being booked for Thur night, | 15:53 |
| cdent | am I envious or jealous, I forget which is which? | 15:53 |
| eglynn | fabiog: Wednesday? | 15:53 |
| eglynn | (according to the etherpad) | 15:54 |
| fabiog | yes sorry | 15:54 |
| eglynn | cool :) | 15:54 |
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| eglynn | so please do add your name to the list if and when you get confirmation from bosses and bean-counters etc. | 15:54 |
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| fabiog | I can also arrange taxis for people staying at the Radisson ... I will take one anyway | 15:54 |
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| eglynn | cool, thanks! | 15:55 |
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| fabiog | so, I really hope to see you there. I guess we won't have a meeting next week ... are we? | 15:55 |
| eglynn | one other bit of housekeeping to deal with ... | 15:55 |
| eglynn | #topic meeting cancellation over the holidays | 15:55 |
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| eglynn | I'm guessing the way Christmas day and New Year's day fall this year means there won't be much demand for a meeting for the next 2 Thursdays | 15:56 |
| eglynn | amiright? | 15:56 |
| * jd__ nods | 15:56 | |
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| cdent | you are correct sir | 15:56 |
| ildikov | eglynn: youareright :) | 15:56 |
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| DinaBelova | + | 15:56 |
| * eglynn will be busily over-cooking a turkey this time next week :) | 15:56 | |
| fabiog | so the next one will jan 8? | 15:56 |
| idegtiarov | +1 | 15:56 |
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| eglynn | fabiog: yeap, that's what I hearing | 15:57 |
| DinaBelova | ok, cool :) | 15:57 |
| fabiog | so please try to finalize you trip by then. I would appreciate that | 15:57 |
| eglynn | #topic open discussion | 15:57 |
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| fabiog | I would like to wish Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you. It has been a fun year working together | 15:58 |
| cdent | +1 | 15:58 |
| DinaBelova | yeah, indeed :) | 15:58 |
| ildikov | I would like to wish the same! :) | 15:58 |
| ildikov | productive year! tnx to everyone! :) | 15:59 |
| DinaBelova | it's strange russians are having x-mas much later than you folks :D | 15:59 |
| idegtiarov | And Marry Christmas from me!!! | 15:59 |
| fabiog | DinaBelova: so you can celebrate it twice ;-) | 15:59 |
| eglynn | yes. absolutely, have a great holiday everyone! :) | 15:59 |
| DinaBelova | idegtiarov ;) | 15:59 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: what date is the Russian celebration? | 15:59 |
| DinaBelova | 7th Jan | 15:59 |
| eglynn | a-ha, wow! | 16:00 |
| idegtiarov | yep! we also | 16:00 |
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| DinaBelova | and New Year as usual for all of you :) | 16:00 |
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| eglynn | I think that's a wrap ... thanks folks for your time today and all the efforts during tha pst year! | 16:00 |
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| llu-laptop | happy holidays~ | 16:00 |
| eglynn | *past | 16:00 |
| eglynn | #endmeeting ceilometer | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 16:01:07 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-12-18-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-12-18-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-12-18-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 17:00:43 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | hi, who's here today? | 17:01 |
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| jlanoux | hi | 17:01 |
| sdague | o/ | 17:01 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_December_18th_2014_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:01 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ Today's agenda | 17:01 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf, dkranz, mkoderer, dtroyer: around? | 17:02 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 17:02 |
| mtreinish | ok, let's get started | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | #topic No meeting next 2 weeks (mtreinish) | 17:03 |
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| dkranz | o/ | 17:03 |
| mtreinish | I just though I should mention because of the holidays and most people taking off that we will not be having the meeting for the next 2 weeks | 17:03 |
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| andreaf | o/ | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | it will pick up again on Jan. 9th | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | err no 8th | 17:04 |
| mtreinish | (the 9th is a friday) | 17:04 |
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| sdague | wfm | 17:04 |
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| dkranz | sure | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | the other thing is I won't be able to lead the meetings in Jan. because I'll be travelling for LCA and some other stuff | 17:05 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: LCA ? | 17:05 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: http://linux.conf.au/ | 17:05 |
| mtreinish | so if someone could volunteer to run the meetings while I'm on a plane that would awesome | 17:05 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ah, warm | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: heh, yep :) | 17:06 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I can do Jan 8/15 | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok cool | 17:07 |
| mtreinish | #info dkranz to run meeting on the 8th and 15th | 17:07 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I'll be some place warm the two after that | 17:07 |
| ekhugen_alt | I can host Jan 22/29, if needed | 17:07 |
| dkranz | Is any one else going to be working Dec 29/30/31 ? | 17:08 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: ok, I'll figure something out for the other 2 days | 17:08 |
| sdague | dkranz: not I, today is my last day for the year | 17:08 |
| andreaf | dkranz: probably not | 17:08 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah neither am I | 17:08 |
| andreaf | Jun 8th will be 5pm or 10pm UTC? | 17:08 |
| dkranz | Just wondering if it is worth pushing anything | 17:08 |
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| andreaf | s/Jun/Jan | 17:09 |
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| dkranz | andreaf: It is three from now so that would be 10pm | 17:09 |
| mtreinish | ekhugen_alt: cool thanks, I was hoping for a member of a qa core team to do it. But, if no one steps up that'll work. I'll let you know | 17:09 |
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| ekhugen_alt | okay, thanks mtreinish | 17:09 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: yeah it'll be 2200 UTC | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | it's easier to keep the cadence on off weeks so I don't have to try an update the ical | 17:10 |
| mtreinish | ok does anyone else have anything on this topic? | 17:10 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:11 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have an open spec review to bring up? | 17:12 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I'm working on your comments on the ssh-auth one | 17:12 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: cool, thanks | 17:12 |
| sdague | people should take a look at - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137054/ - I'm actually working on a POC on it | 17:13 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137054/ | 17:13 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I hope to have it done tomorrow, and then move faster, I'm proposing k2 as milestone | 17:13 |
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| sdague | (that's the devstack remote plugins one) | 17:13 |
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| andreaf | sdague: sure I'll take a look at it | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | oh I guess today is k-1... | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: sure, I'll put it on my list too | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | it seems like a good idea to have that | 17:15 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: also I'd like to close on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139578/ if possible so I can start working on it | 17:15 |
| sdague | also - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140843/ - should be approved unless there are major gripes. That's basically just a write up of what was talked about at summit by dean | 17:15 |
| sdague | dtroyer have you started hacking on it yet? | 17:16 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: sure, I gave it a +2 earlier today, if gets another +2 I'll push it through | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I can help out with pushing bits on that one too | 17:16 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: sure, I'll take a look after the meeting and approve it if it looks good | 17:16 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: great, thanks | 17:16 |
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| sdague | I guess a question would be what code effort are stalled on specs now that we should unstall? | 17:17 |
| dtroyer | sdague: yup... | 17:17 |
| dtroyer | https://review.openstack.org/140565 | 17:17 |
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| sdague | dtroyer ok cool | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | sdague: yeah that's a good question :) | 17:18 |
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| mtreinish | honestly there aren't that many open spec reviews right now though | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | or at least ones without negative reviews | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | one on devstack that sticks out is from adam_g: https://review.openstack.org/136101 | 17:19 |
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| mtreinish | ok if there aren't any other specs to discuss we can move on | 17:20 |
| sdague | oh, yeh, I should look at that one | 17:20 |
| dtroyer | ditto, I had missed it | 17:21 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 17:21 |
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| mtreinish | ok are there any open blueprints that we need to discuss | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | or any status updates? | 17:22 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: on the resource cleanup one | 17:22 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/resource-cleanup ? | 17:23 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: ekhugen_alt has started working on it with a few patches already (thanks!) | 17:23 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: yes - there is an etherpad - if someone wants to contribute put your name in there next to a test set you want to migrate | 17:23 |
| mtreinish | cool, that's doing the split of the setup and teardown into finer grained pieces right? | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: sure, link? | 17:24 |
| andreaf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/resource-cleanup-tempest-2 | 17:24 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes that's correct | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | cool, thanks | 17:25 |
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| mtreinish | are there any other bps that anyone would like to bring up | 17:25 |
| * andreaf has to leave the meeting early today | 17:26 | |
| sdague | nope, though I have some devstack bits when we get to that | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | ok, well then let's move onto that. (since it seems there aren't any other bps to discuss today) | 17:27 |
| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 17:27 |
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| mtreinish | sdague, dtroyer: go ahead | 17:27 |
| sdague | ok, so I've been chugging through the nounset patches in the background | 17:27 |
| dtroyer | sdague mentioed the plugin work that he is starting, he can fill in more there… | 17:27 |
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| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-dev/devstack+branch:master+topic:unset,n,z | 17:27 |
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| sdague | this is going to be a long chug, but the bottom patch is a set of cleanups that is probably good to go in | 17:28 |
| dtroyer | I started the logging spec and have the devstack jobs working, but Grenade needs to learn how to swing both ways before that can proceed | 17:28 |
| mtreinish | sdague: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139287/ ? | 17:28 |
| sdague | the approach involves https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139287/11/stack.sh,cm setting it not to be on by default | 17:28 |
| sdague | mtreinish: yeh | 17:29 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139287/ | 17:29 |
| sdague | that's enough to pass on my local config | 17:29 |
| sdague | stack.sh, unstack.sh, and clean.sh all work with nounset locally with that | 17:29 |
| dtroyer | nice | 17:29 |
| sdague | but, there are a lot more configs in the gate | 17:30 |
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| sdague | so the top of the patch series sets things to true by default, and then I'm piling up fixes under it | 17:30 |
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| sdague | also, I introduced a unittest framework in 139287 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139287/11/tests/unittest.sh,cm | 17:31 |
| sdague | because, all the test scripts were very one off | 17:31 |
| sdague | only the new tests for trueorfalse use that | 17:31 |
| sdague | but I think that would be a good cleanup to move to that | 17:31 |
| sdague | the other thing, is the devstack plugins | 17:31 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: is there a reason you didn't use something like shunit? | 17:32 |
| sdague | mtreinish: mostly, not pulling in another large dependency | 17:32 |
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| mtreinish | ok, just curious | 17:32 |
| sdague | this is something we've got over in devstack-gate in a similar form | 17:32 |
| sdague | I looked at shunit at some point, and ... this was just simpler | 17:33 |
| sdague | ok, devstack plugins | 17:33 |
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| mtreinish | ok that's fine. The only reason I asked is I think I remember shunit having subunit support so we could get subunit streams from the unit tests. But that's not really important | 17:34 |
| sdague | based on the glusterfs patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133102/ - I felt like this needed to happen a little sooner | 17:34 |
| sdague | because I'm not convinced we should merge the glusterfs patch, as it requires 3rd party epel repos | 17:34 |
| dtroyer | ++ | 17:35 |
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| sdague | so chmouel wrote the spec | 17:35 |
| sdague | see above ^^^ | 17:35 |
| mtreinish | sdague: +1 yeah 3rd party repos are a no go | 17:35 |
| sdague | here is a first pass - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142805/ | 17:35 |
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| sdague | honestly, given the library work, it turned out to only be 40 lines of code | 17:35 |
| sdague | it's slightly different from the spec right now | 17:36 |
| sdague | because this was more straight forward, but it's close enough (will update the spec if people like this direction) | 17:36 |
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| sdague | a "more real" version is needed with some error checking, but I'm testing that works in a follow on patch | 17:37 |
| chmouel | sdague: ah i was just about to comment on the review about that | 17:37 |
| sdague | one concern, for the gate, ERROR_ON_CLONE is on, so we can only use this in the gate for stuff that's in the project list I think | 17:38 |
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| sdague | anyway, that limitation will need to be sorted, I'm hacking around it on the test patch | 17:38 |
| chmouel | or if we really needed it we could maybe have infra mirror the git repo? | 17:39 |
| sdague | chmouel: yeh, honestly, I started writing parsing code and said ... you know what, lets just let the user specify | 17:39 |
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| sdague | chmouel: yep | 17:39 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: yeah I don't think it'll be an issue in the gate. Most people have been doing this manually with gate hooks | 17:39 |
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| chmouel | sdague: i think that look pretty good, i mean at least syntax wise | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | so the repos are already there for the plugin | 17:40 |
| sdague | also... by using the same GIT* arrays this actually lets you do interesting things like intentionally override pre defined repos. Which I think might be a useful side effect. | 17:40 |
| sdague | that's it from me | 17:41 |
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| mtreinish | ok, thanks | 17:41 |
| chmouel | except for forks i am not sure how this could be used but well :) | 17:41 |
| dtroyer | sdague: thanks… | 17:41 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have anything else on devstack? | 17:41 |
| dtroyer | just one more thing here, I'm working on making DevStack run with a global venv | 17:42 |
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| sdague | dtroyer: ++ | 17:42 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: awesome | 17:42 |
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| chmouel | dtroyer: coool :) | 17:42 |
| dtroyer | first tests just completed and the results were…surprising. one of the grenade jobs succeeded and I don't yet know why | 17:42 |
| sdague | chmouel: sure, but sometimes forks are valid things to test against (especially as you can set branch) | 17:42 |
| chmouel | sdague: yeah true | 17:42 |
| dtroyer | I expect this will also have grenade implications | 17:43 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: it succeeded and it shouldn't have? :) | 17:43 |
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| chmouel | that would be very nice for very large feature to implement across all different projects (i.:e like nfv) | 17:43 |
| dtroyer | mtreinish: yes, but probably because 'new' doesn't run stack.sh | 17:43 |
| dtroyer | so it ran the system packages | 17:43 |
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| mtreinish | ah, ok | 17:44 |
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| dtroyer | anyway, I have a script to do the venv build and install the pypi packages that have distro package prereqs | 17:44 |
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| sdague | dtroyer: nice | 17:44 |
| dtroyer | and its mostly activation and assumption fixes from there | 17:45 |
| dtroyer | that's it from me | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | ok, thanks | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | let's move onto the next topic then | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 17:45 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any updates on the world of grenade? | 17:46 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer, sdague, jogo: ^^^ | 17:46 |
| sdague | we had a work around this week | 17:46 |
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| dtroyer | no details here yet beyond what I already mentioned | 17:46 |
| sdague | let me find the patch | 17:46 |
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| mtreinish | the ceilo paste pipeline thing? | 17:46 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142075/ | 17:46 |
| sdague | yeh | 17:46 |
| sdague | I fast merged that tues morning to help unstick things | 17:47 |
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| sdague | turns out... for the last year... new swift was running with old ceilometer in it's pipeline | 17:47 |
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| sdague | and we didn't notice until the requirements capping | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | heh, nice | 17:48 |
| sdague | anyway, the new order address that, I also think cdent was going to talk with the swift and ceilometer teams and try to come up with a better long term plan | 17:48 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142741/ - is a quick cleanup grenade review that's easy (removes a work around needed to land 142075 and another old work around) | 17:49 |
| cdent | yeah, in today's ceilometer meeting I got the job of carrying a branch to swift | 17:49 |
| sdague | cdent: great | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | ok, cool | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | sdague: +A | 17:50 |
| mtreinish | ok is there anything else on grenade? Otherwise lets move on | 17:50 |
| sdague | (also... on plugins ... looks like it totally works - http://logs.openstack.org/15/142815/2/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-large-ops/e5171fb//logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2014-12-18_17_25_32_896 ) | 17:50 |
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| mtreinish | awesome | 17:51 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:51 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any reviews they'd like to get some extra eyes on? | 17:51 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: just the one I put in the agenda | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141014/ | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ^^^ | 17:52 |
| mtreinish | it looks like it's WIP though | 17:52 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: right. I just wanted to know if folks were comfortable with the approach | 17:52 |
| dkranz | I have not been able to find ken-ichi | 17:52 |
| dkranz | And am not sure why it was marked WIP | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: it seems reasonable. It's basically what I had in mind for doing that | 17:53 |
| dkranz | If we are comfortable with breakout to a base class and accepting keyword args for all the conf values I might take it over | 17:53 |
| mtreinish | (it's basically what we did for the CLI tests too, just in reverse order) | 17:53 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok, cool | 17:53 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I am nursing the neutron client patch through gate failures and rebases | 17:54 |
| dkranz | hopefully no more of the latter | 17:54 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: those two are what is needed for the neutron team to move ahead | 17:54 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: that's all for that one I think | 17:54 |
| mtreinish | ok, thanks | 17:54 |
| mtreinish | does anyone else have any reviews to bring up? | 17:54 |
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| mtreinish | ok, if there aren't any other reviews, I guess we'll end here | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 17:56 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 17:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 17:56:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-12-18-17.00.html | 17:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-12-18-17.00.txt | 17:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-12-18-17.00.log.html | 17:56 |
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| mriedem | we are in this room now right? | 21:00 |
| mriedem | for nova? | 21:00 |
| gilliard | That;s why I'm here | 21:00 |
| dansmith | yes | 21:00 |
| n0ano | wfm | 21:00 |
| mriedem | mikal tjones cburgess jgrimm adrian_otto funzo mjturek jcook ekhugen irina_pov krtaylor danpb alexpilotti flip214 raildo jaypipes gilliard garyk edleafe | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | what's first? topic? | 21:00 |
| alex_xu | yes | 21:00 |
| dansmith | no, startmeeting | 21:00 |
| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 21:00:51 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:00 |
| beagles | o/ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:00 |
| edleafe | o/ | 21:00 |
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| gilliard | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | raise em up | 21:01 |
| alaski | o/ | 21:01 |
| n0ano | o/ | 21:01 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:01 |
| edleafe | :w | 21:01 |
| edleafe | arrgghhh | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #topic kilo-specs | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "kilo-specs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| mriedem | well today is the day for k-1 deadline on spec approvals | 21:01 |
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| clif_h | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | i believe ttx is cutting k-1 today sometime | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | Non-priority Feature Freeze is kilo-2 (February 5th) | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | anything that didn't make the approval deadline (today) has to get an exception, and that process is TBD until people get back from vacation | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | sounds like there will be a meeting the first week of january to iron those detials out, and then i'm assuming ML for the process | 21:02 |
| n0ano | mriedem, so we don't even know the process for another 2 weeks | 21:02 |
| jogo | o/ | 21:02 |
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| dims__ | o/ | 21:03 |
| dansmith | n0ano: right | 21:03 |
| jcook | o/ | 21:03 |
| JoshNang | o/ | 21:03 |
| mriedem | n0ano: well, i'd think there is some exception request on the ML, priority will be important, and probably people signed up to review them | 21:03 |
| mriedem | but i'm guessing | 21:03 |
| n0ano | it just leaves us in limbo for a long time | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | well, there are things people can do in the interim | 21:04 |
| mriedem | like help review the k1 approved specs, | 21:04 |
| mriedem | get code in shape for anything proposed as a priority exception for k2, etc | 21:04 |
| mriedem | review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/135700/ :) | 21:04 |
| * dansmith slips mriedem a $20 | 21:05 | |
| mriedem | re-approve blueprint fast-track - anything needing re-approval | 21:05 |
| mriedem | ? | 21:05 |
| mriedem | i honestly haven't checked | 21:05 |
| dansmith | re-approval is just for things early in the cycle, | 21:05 |
| mriedem | i had this in open discussion but the agenda talks about spec free bp's, there was one here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/network-template-routes-injection | 21:05 |
| dansmith | so we can probably start asking about this I think | 21:05 |
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| jogo | right, I think we can take that off the agenda now | 21:05 |
| bauzas | \o | 21:05 |
| mriedem | jogo: ok | 21:05 |
| mriedem | regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/network-template-routes-injection - i don't think it needs a spec given the guidelines | 21:06 |
| jogo | mriedem: I thought there was already a spec for that | 21:06 |
| mriedem | i can't pretend to understand it really, not really my area, but it's up there | 21:06 |
| mriedem | jogo: no, it was reported as a 'nova should do this' bug | 21:06 |
| mriedem | and a patch, which i said open a bp | 21:06 |
| dansmith | this is for nova-network right? | 21:06 |
| jogo | https://review.openstack.org/85673 | 21:06 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah, i added vishy to the review | 21:06 |
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| jogo | ohh nova-network ahh | 21:07 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115409/ | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | anyway, moving on from that - take a peek if you care, i don't think spec is required | 21:07 |
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| bauzas | can we just restate that priority reviews can be set there https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities-tracking ? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | just about to do that | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #topic priorities | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "priorities (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| mriedem | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities | 21:08 |
| jogo | mriedem: agreed sounds like a good candidate for no spec | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | top three are still cells, objects and scheduler | 21:08 |
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| jogo | mriedem dansmith: should I approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/network-template-routes-injection ? | 21:08 |
| mriedem | i don't know if there is much to report here? alaski dansmith jaypipes ^ ? | 21:08 |
| mriedem | jogo: up to you | 21:08 |
| * dansmith doesn't care much | 21:09 | |
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| * jogo approves | 21:09 | |
| mriedem | alaski has cells specs and devref stuff up for review, so we could get some eyes on them | 21:09 |
| bauzas | I can proxy jaypipes's voice | 21:09 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: the objects status has pretty much been the same for weeks, but I'll do some updates there | 21:09 |
| mriedem | did the cells specs get approved yet? | 21:09 |
| n0ano | in re: scheduler - most important thing is review for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127609/ | 21:09 |
| dansmith | mriedem: some | 21:09 |
| mriedem | i don't think they did | 21:09 |
| alaski | two cells specs are approved | 21:09 |
| mriedem | dansmith: alaski: ok, i'm assuming anything that didn't would be exception fodder anyway | 21:09 |
| alaski | two others are up for review | 21:09 |
| * alaski needs to add it to the etherpad | 21:09 | |
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| mriedem | #action need people to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127609/ for the scheduler bp priority | 21:10 |
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| alaski | mriedem: I think we need to discuss when everyone is back from the holidays | 21:10 |
| mriedem | #action alaski to update priorities etherpad for cells specs | 21:10 |
| mriedem | alaski: yeah - i'm just drunk with power here | 21:10 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: as I said, most important reviews for the scheudler are in the etherpad | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | bauzas: n0ano: ok, thanks | 21:10 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127609/ will need an exception | 21:10 |
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| dansmith | re: the flavor blob one, I don't think there is any way to get serious review on it before the break, so I presume we'll just hold the -2 on that one until January | 21:11 |
| bauzas | if we consider k1 as the spec freeze | 21:11 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah i don't think so either, i guess you could address what i pointed out today and then it will sit for a bit | 21:11 |
| dansmith | yep, will | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | i'm technically out for the rest of the year but with the inlaws staying with us next week i'm sure i'll be online poking around | 21:12 |
| mriedem | moving on | 21:12 |
| mriedem | #topic gate | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | the gate is good http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html | 21:12 |
| mriedem | 90% classification of bugs | 21:12 |
| mriedem | which is as high as i can remember | 21:12 |
| jogo | \o/ | 21:12 |
| mriedem | if it craps over the break i guess put out the jogo signal :) | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:13 | |
| dansmith | I have a bug thing | 21:13 |
| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda about bugs | 21:13 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:13 |
| dansmith | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1402813 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1402813 in nova "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91722 breaks icehouse->juno live migration" [Undecided,New] | 21:13 |
| dansmith | apparently, in juno, | 21:13 |
| dansmith | we intentionally broke live migrations across icehouse->juno | 21:13 |
| dansmith | which breaks the way a lot of people upgrade without dropping workloads | 21:13 |
| dansmith | I think this needs to be classified highly, and we need to fix master and backport to juno | 21:14 |
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| dansmith | thoughts? | 21:14 |
| mriedem | is that only for people using shared storage? | 21:14 |
| dansmith | no | 21:14 |
| dansmith | it should be only for shared storage on RBD, | 21:14 |
| dansmith | but it was just broken across the board | 21:14 |
| mriedem | wow | 21:14 |
| dansmith | for no reason | 21:14 |
| dansmith | I know. | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | i remember that patch, and there was some hate | 21:14 |
| dansmith | it didn't do this in the early versions | 21:14 |
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| dansmith | but the one that merged calls it out in the commit message clearly | 21:15 |
| dansmith | so anyway, | 21:15 |
| dansmith | I just wanted to see if others felt it was a critical issue like I do | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i marked it critical | 21:15 |
| dansmith | and I'll work on either helping the author make the change, or just do it (when I get back) | 21:15 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i think for the people i've been talking to about upgrades to kilo, they are going to be doing cold migrates anyway b/c of distro upgrades | 21:15 |
| dansmith | well, | 21:15 |
| mriedem | but that's not everyone | 21:16 |
| jogo | wow the upgrade impact discussed the issue | 21:16 |
| dansmith | we do live migrates to allow people to do distro upgrades without dropping workloads | 21:16 |
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| jogo | ++ to critical | 21:16 |
| dansmith | like, live migrate from RHEL6 to RHEL7, icehouse to juno | 21:16 |
| dansmith | works well | 21:16 |
| dansmith | except when we intentionally break it :( | 21:16 |
| alaski | yeah, +1 to critical. this is a pretty big break | 21:16 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah, we're talking 6.5 to 7 for juno/kilo here | 21:16 |
| dansmith | right | 21:16 |
| mriedem | so cern will hit this too... | 21:17 |
| mriedem | b/c they are upgrading distros | 21:17 |
| dansmith | I think lots of people are going to hit it | 21:17 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:17 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:17 |
| mriedem | marked as critical and for k2 | 21:17 |
| dansmith | probably right after the break when they sit down to do upgrades :) | 21:17 |
| dansmith | cool, thanks | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | #action fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1402813 if you want happy users | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1402813 in nova "https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91722 breaks icehouse->juno live migration" [Undecided,New] | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | any other critical bugs? | 21:17 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: maybe make ndipanov fix it :) | 21:18 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:18 |
| dansmith | he has enough to do | 21:18 |
| mriedem | blargh | 21:18 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck-reviews | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | i think this pacemaker one is old | 21:18 |
| mriedem | no link | 21:18 |
| mriedem | beagles has https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova-specs+branch:master+topic:bp/nova-neutron-refactor,n,z on here for the neutron v2 api refactor | 21:19 |
| mriedem | there are 3 specs there, which missed the deadline obviously | 21:19 |
| bauzas | mriedem: about Pacemaker, you mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139991/ ? | 21:19 |
| mriedem | i think we can stagger those in kilo still and are technial debt priority, so at least one or two might get exceptions if done right | 21:19 |
| dansmith | since this is in support of neutron usability, and non-damaging to the mainline while developing, I think an exception for this work to start/continue is cool, but we can talk about that in Jan | 21:19 |
| mriedem | bauzas: looks right | 21:19 |
| mriedem | dansmith: agreed | 21:20 |
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| clif_h | can I bring up a review I'd just like to get core eyes on? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141188/ this is to improve efficiency with the ironic driver using the ironic client | 21:20 |
| mriedem | looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139991/ isn't stuck... | 21:20 |
| jogo | mriedem: that is dead on arrival IMHO | 21:20 |
| bauzas | mriedem: agreed | 21:20 |
| mriedem | clif_h: that doesn't look 'stuck' to me | 21:20 |
| bauzas | mriedem: it seems there is a consensus | 21:20 |
| clif_h | mriedem: sorry, is there a better time to bring this up? | 21:20 |
| tonyb | clif_h: open discussion | 21:21 |
| mriedem | clif_h: at the end i guess | 21:21 |
| mriedem | right | 21:21 |
| clif_h | alright, I will, thanks | 21:21 |
| mriedem | another was host health monitoring: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137768/ | 21:21 |
| mriedem | doesn't look stuck, | 21:21 |
| mriedem | and doesn't look like a priority for kilo | 21:21 |
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| mriedem | is this another spec about auto-evacuate/migrate or sometihng? | 21:21 |
| alaski | not quite, but along those lines | 21:22 |
| mriedem | yup, auto-evacuate | 21:22 |
| mriedem | hw failure on your intel box :) | 21:22 |
| baoli_ | we have a few SR-IOV related specs for cores' attention. Wonder if they still have a chance | 21:22 |
| alaski | mriedem: I don't think it's stuck, there's been discussion on it recently | 21:22 |
| mriedem | baoli_: let's leave that for open discussion | 21:22 |
| mriedem | alaski: agreed | 21:23 |
| bauzas | mriedem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137768/ isn't stuck too | 21:23 |
| baoli_ | mriedem, sure | 21:23 |
| mriedem | moving on to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136487/ | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | remove server group members | 21:23 |
| bauzas | maybe it would be good to reexplain what a stuck review means... | 21:23 |
| mriedem | dansmith is -1 b/c he wants remove/add done together, | 21:23 |
| dansmith | hell yes I do | 21:23 |
| mriedem | i was hoping that johnthetubaguy would review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136487/ and throw his input in | 21:23 |
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| mriedem | it was discussed at the summit so was hoping that others involved in that discussion could chim in | 21:24 |
| mriedem | *chime in | 21:24 |
| mriedem | personally i don't have a dog in that fight so don't care either way | 21:24 |
| dansmith | mriedem: have you looked at the add spec yet? | 21:24 |
| mriedem | i haven't reviewed the add spec either | 21:24 |
| mriedem | nope | 21:24 |
| jmulsow | I previously had add/remove together, but as discussed at summit split these into two specs to stage remove in for kilo and add later. | 21:24 |
| mriedem | dansmith: did you look at the add spec? | 21:24 |
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| mriedem | assumes yes | 21:24 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yes | 21:24 |
| dansmith | I've been avoiding commenting | 21:25 |
| mriedem | problems? | 21:25 |
| dansmith | it adds a ton of new DB traffic to try to avoid the hard problems | 21:25 |
| * mriedem assumes jmulsow has thick skin | 21:25 | |
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| dansmith | I'm not sure it covers all the bases, although it covers a bunch, but the cost for it is high, IMHO | 21:25 |
| mriedem | ok, so the concern is we do remove w/o add and if we can't decide on a design for add, we're stuck w/o it | 21:25 |
| tonyb | BTW My driver (mikal) says "hi" | 21:25 |
| alaski | not having read the specs yet, I agree with add/remove being in the same spec. | 21:26 |
| dansmith | and then we're stuck with weird can-remove-but-not-add API semantis | 21:26 |
| dansmith | er, semantics | 21:26 |
| dansmith | right now it's symmetric and easy: | 21:26 |
| mriedem | and it's not weird to not be able to remove at all? | 21:26 |
| dansmith | you get into a group on birth and leave on death, period. | 21:26 |
| jogo | honestly we have enough other stuff going on I this doesn't seem worth dealing with now | 21:26 |
| jogo | dansmith: like a hard core gang? | 21:26 |
| mriedem | jogo: feel free to weigh in on the spec then, you were at the summit session too | 21:26 |
| dansmith | jogo: a number of folks hate server_groups as it is, so yeah, that | 21:26 |
| mriedem | jogo: ha | 21:27 |
| dansmith | jogo: lol | 21:27 |
| mriedem | don't the HP guys like server groups? | 21:27 |
| * jogo pulls out the -2 hammer | 21:27 | |
| mriedem | PhilD and such? | 21:27 |
| dansmith | I dunno | 21:27 |
| jmulsow | To me it seems less confusing to have just remove than it is to have to figure out you need to delete the VM to get it out of the group | 21:27 |
| * gilliard not sure can check with PhilD tomorrow. | 21:27 | |
| n0ano | mriedem, that's my understanding, yes PhilD likes server groups | 21:27 |
| mriedem | gilliard: thanks, i added him too just in case | 21:27 |
| mriedem | PhilD must be busy externally lately... | 21:27 |
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| mriedem | anyway, we can move on - anyone interested or has input, please get it in the review | 21:28 |
| jmulsow | Comments in the add review would be apreciated, too, so they can be addressed | 21:28 |
| mriedem | jmulsow: link? | 21:28 |
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| jmulsow | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139272/ | 21:28 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:28 |
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| * jogo -2ed | 21:29 | |
| mriedem | there was one item | 21:29 |
| mriedem | Libvirt meetings. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Libvirt - Do they happen any more? Someone else was in that meeting room at the time mentioned there, and no minutes for months. | 21:29 |
| mriedem | i don't know if danpb is doing those still | 21:29 |
| gilliard | I went along and it was just a bunch of people talking about lbaas | 21:29 |
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| mriedem | gilliard: ha | 21:29 |
| dansmith | I don't think there was this last time at least | 21:29 |
| mriedem | almost the same | 21:29 |
| mriedem | ok, i guess that's a better ML question | 21:29 |
| dansmith | I saw people asking about it | 21:29 |
| mriedem | #action post the libvirt meeting question to the ML | 21:29 |
| gilliard | I'll do that | 21:30 |
| mriedem | gilliard: thanks | 21:30 |
| mriedem | ok, other open discussion? | 21:30 |
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| dansmith | no meetings until January? | 21:30 |
| jogo | ++ | 21:30 |
| mriedem | tonyb: can you ask mikal ^? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | i won't be attending | 21:30 |
| tonyb | I am | 21:30 |
| baoli_ | mriedem: can we discuss the sr-iov specs now? | 21:30 |
| clif_h | I'd like to get core eyes on this review if possible: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141188/ this is to improve efficiency with the ironic driver using the ironic client | 21:30 |
| tonyb | start again for the first thursday (2nd)? | 21:31 |
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| mriedem | tonyb: sounds good | 21:31 |
| gilliard | That is an odd week, right? | 21:31 |
| mriedem | clif_h: ok, it's not that old though, be patient :) and it's a wishlist bug | 21:31 |
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| dansmith | the second is friday | 21:31 |
| alaski | Thursday is the 1st | 21:32 |
| dansmith | so it will be the eight | 21:32 |
| dansmith | h | 21:32 |
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| tonyb | gilliard: Yeah I guess so, unless we start at 0 | 21:32 |
| dims__ | i have the nuke-xml reviews lined up | 21:32 |
| dims__ | and the ext3->ext4 as well | 21:32 |
| mriedem | 1/1 won't happen for a meeting i don't think, at least in the US | 21:32 |
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| mriedem | baoli_: go ahead | 21:32 |
| jogo | dims__: sweet | 21:32 |
| bauzas | 8th Jan meeting is at 1400UTC | 21:32 |
| clif_h | mriedem: sorry :) Is there any expected timeframe to get reviews reviewed? | 21:32 |
| bauzas | just to be clear | 21:32 |
| mriedem | baoli_: if they are for NFV, i don't think that's on the priority list though.. | 21:32 |
| tonyb | okay start then | 21:32 |
| mriedem | clif_h: no, we just have a lot | 21:33 |
| mriedem | clif_h: feel free to help review some others | 21:33 |
| JayF | mriedem: the bug clif_h is working on is a wishlist bug in the tracker; but is impacting any Ironic installation of size (1 call to identity and 1 call to Ironic for every Ironic instance) | 21:33 |
| JayF | So there's a strong desire in Ironic to get those fixes in. | 21:33 |
| mriedem | sure, i'm not telling people to *not* review it | 21:33 |
| baoli_ | mriedem: we discussed these items during the summit | 21:33 |
| mriedem | i'm just saying | 21:33 |
| mriedem | baoli_: links? | 21:34 |
| JoshNang | i've got the network json spec i'd love to get in before the deadline, needs 1 more +2, previously had +2 from dansmith and johnthetubaguy, and hasn't changed significantly since then. i've got the nova code proposed already, and we've got configdrive support ready. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/85673/ | 21:34 |
| mriedem | dansmith: johnthetubaguy: ^? | 21:34 |
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| baoli_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/sriov-live-migration https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/api-specify-vnic-type https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/sriov-interface-attach-detach | 21:34 |
| * dansmith blinks | 21:34 | |
| mriedem | might be easy pickins before an exception requirement | 21:34 |
| JoshNang | hopefully :) | 21:34 |
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| tsekiyama | Cinder iSCSI multipath & failover specs ( https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134299/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137468/ ) was -1'ed just because of waiting for cinder-spec approval. Now cinder-specs are approved, so I'd like cores to recheck these. | 21:35 |
| baoli_ | one more: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/sriov-sched-with-stateless-offloads | 21:35 |
| jogo | mriedem: how are we doing with the kilo-1 goals we set at the summit? | 21:35 |
| mriedem | jogo: we had goals | 21:35 |
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| mriedem | ? | 21:35 |
| dansmith | JoshNang: I was proxying a +2 back on there, I think my last vote was -1 :) | 21:35 |
| dims__ | jogo: mriedem: :) | 21:35 |
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| mriedem | jogo: like CI for NFV? | 21:35 |
| jogo | baoli_: is there CI for SRI-OV yet? | 21:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | JoshNang: I can take a look, I do like the idea | 21:36 |
| JoshNang | dansmith: ah, right you are | 21:36 |
| * jogo digs up the link | 21:36 | |
| mriedem | baoli_: is there CI running somewhere in the world for NFV yet? | 21:36 |
| JoshNang | johnthetubaguy: thanks! | 21:36 |
| dansmith | so, I can say some words on that | 21:36 |
| dansmith | NFV CI | 21:36 |
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| dansmith | there are still a bunch of things that will require real hardware, of course, | 21:36 |
| baoli_ | mriedem: as far as I know, folks are working on them | 21:36 |
| mriedem | baoli_: so that's like what 4 bps/specs there, and i don't think NFV is a project priority for kilo, the scheduler stuff trumps that as i recall | 21:36 |
| JayF | johnthetubaguy: dansmith: FWIW we're running a downstreamed version of that JSON spec/code downstream, and also have code waiting for cloud-init to support that JSON format, so really we're just waiting on the spec to get done :( | 21:36 |
| dansmith | but I think we have nailed down some very real ways to test NUMA on existing CI systems without much trouble | 21:36 |
| mriedem | baoli_: they were also supposed to be working on them in juno | 21:36 |
| jmulsow | Wanting to make sure we have reached a consensus for add/remove server group members. Does everyone agree that going forward in proposing these for the L release, these two specs need to be merged back together? | 21:36 |
| mriedem | jmulsow: that's the way i'd lean | 21:37 |
| n0ano | mriedem, NFV was never a priority for Nova, it might be for Neutron | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ok, i have no idea how related that is as a dependency for the 4 bp's that baoli_ linked above | 21:37 |
| jogo | ahhhttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-milestone-targets | 21:37 |
| jogo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-milestone-targets | 21:38 |
| mriedem | baoli_: is there a way to prioritize / stagger these specs? | 21:38 |
| dansmith | mriedem: it's not at all, but you brought up NFV CI and numa was one of the things we identified as untested stuff that needed testing, and was previously hung on requiring hardware | 21:38 |
| baoli_ | mriedem, well, these specs are worked on by various folks. | 21:38 |
| jogo | without CI for SRIOV I don't like the idea of adding more features to it | 21:39 |
| baoli_ | But we need cores' attention so that we can move forward | 21:39 |
| mriedem | baoli_: yeah, core attention is on many things, and nfv isn't a priority for kilo given the list | 21:39 |
| dansmith | jogo: we also found a couple critical issues with it right after we released juno | 21:39 |
| mriedem | baoli_: and there are many bp's | 21:39 |
| jogo | dansmith: exactly | 21:39 |
| alex_xu | metion a bug about network https://review.openstack.org/116578 , it break network after migration, even l2 pop doesn't work afte migration. l2 pop is importart feature for neutron also. The fix alread there for sometime | 21:39 |
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| jogo | so based on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-milestone-targets | 21:40 |
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| mriedem | baoli_: i think from the nfv session we were hoping for more CI before more bp's, since it was the other way around in juno | 21:40 |
| jogo | we are waayyy off | 21:40 |
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| mriedem | jogo: we've hit some of the k1 things | 21:40 |
| tonyb | who was helping the CI happen? | 21:40 |
| jogo | mriedem: want to go down the list | 21:40 |
| mriedem | tonyb: good questoin | 21:40 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: yeah, this just needs another +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116578/ | 21:40 |
| dansmith | ian from HP | 21:40 |
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| tonyb | Ian from cisco said he had hw | 21:41 |
| mriedem | jogo: did you ever talk to ian wells | 21:41 |
| dansmith | oh, thought he was HP | 21:41 |
| mriedem | lots of people said they had lots of stuff | 21:41 |
| bauzas | jogo: this prioriryt milestone list maybe deserves an update | 21:41 |
| baoli_ | mriedem, the current CI is testing API only. But more stuff is being added | 21:41 |
| bauzas | jogo: because for example some blueprints are not fully merged, but some patches in the series laned | 21:41 |
| alex_xu | mriedem, yes, thanks for your +2, hope can merge, i think it really break some basic function | 21:41 |
| bauzas | *landed | 21:41 |
| JoshNang | johnthetubaguy: thanks for the review :) | 21:42 |
| jogo | mriedem: no not sure what happened to him, I thought I said they have to initiate | 21:42 |
| mriedem | baoli_: so unless others disagree, i think it might be helpful to take something to the nova mailing list and recap where we are with NFV, what specs are up and which are the most important (candidates for exceptions) and what is going on with the state of that CI | 21:42 |
| jogo | mriedem: ++ | 21:42 |
| yjiang5 | mriedem: jogo, I know our team member working on PCI CI. | 21:42 |
| jogo | mriedem: can w e go down the list of 8 or so kilo 1 targets | 21:43 |
| tonyb | mriedem: ++ from me | 21:43 |
| mriedem | jogo: yeah, sec | 21:43 |
| tonyb | mriedem: no idea about mikal | 21:43 |
| baoli_ | mriedem, ok, sounds good. | 21:43 |
| mriedem | ok, going down the k1 milestone targets list | 21:43 |
| mriedem | 1. cells | 21:43 |
| jogo | cells | 21:43 |
| jogo | you go for it | 21:43 |
| mriedem | alaski is working through the testing gaps, there is an etherpad | 21:43 |
| alaski | testing: down to around 40 failures from 153 to start | 21:43 |
| mriedem | actually the wiki | 21:43 |
| mriedem | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova-Cells-v2 | 21:43 |
| alaski | so.. progress | 21:43 |
| dansmith | I think we're doing or have done exactly what the k1 bit says | 21:43 |
| bauzas | +1 | 21:44 |
| jogo | awesome, progress is good | 21:44 |
| mriedem | yeah, 2 specs are merged, 2 are in flight | 21:44 |
| dansmith | getting scheduler requirements, specs in progress some merged, testing is going | 21:44 |
| mriedem | there are well attended weekly meetings | 21:44 |
| jogo | we are off to a good start :) | 21:44 |
| mriedem | yup | 21:44 |
| mriedem | 2. glance client library | 21:44 |
| mriedem | i have no idea on that | 21:44 |
| alaski | yes, things are going well re: cells | 21:44 |
| mriedem | flaper87: ^? | 21:44 |
| dansmith | I think we merged something on that | 21:44 |
| dansmith | the spec | 21:44 |
| jogo | dansmith: yeah we dod | 21:44 |
| jogo | did | 21:44 |
| dansmith | so that's good | 21:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, +1, saw that go in | 21:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | was mean to be implemented, but its a step forward | 21:45 |
| jogo | so maybe a bit behind but making strong progress on that as well | 21:45 |
| mriedem | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/kilo/approved/remove-glanceclient-wrapper.html ? | 21:45 |
| bauzas | that one | 21:45 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:45 |
| mriedem | 3. neutron - grenade testing with neutron is non-voting | 21:45 |
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| mriedem | mestery: mtreinish: ^? | 21:45 |
| dansmith | I haven't heard anything about this | 21:45 |
| jogo | mestery: ^ | 21:45 |
| mriedem | jogo: know anything about that? | 21:45 |
| mriedem | guess not :) | 21:46 |
| jogo | oh hmm | 21:46 |
| jogo | I did see something let me check | 21:46 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to the ML on neutron grenade testing | 21:46 |
| sdague | mriedem: there has been no progress on a sideways job yet that I've seen | 21:46 |
| mestery | Yes, this is due to the services split, we're close. | 21:46 |
| mestery | armax: ^^^ | 21:46 |
| sdague | mestery: neutron -> neutron is voting | 21:46 |
| mestery | sdague: Ah | 21:46 |
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| mriedem | ok, so people are working it i assume? | 21:46 |
| armax | sdague, mestery: that’s my understanding too | 21:46 |
| mriedem | but $dependencies | 21:46 |
| sdague | there is no nova -> neutron effort as far as I know | 21:46 |
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| mestery | sdague: Ah, ok, that makes sense. | 21:47 |
| jogo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142741/ | 21:47 |
| jogo | its voting and working | 21:47 |
| armax | sdague: you mean the sideways job? | 21:47 |
| dansmith | sdague: is this supposed to be testing n-net to neutron? | 21:47 |
| sdague | jogo: that's neutron => neutron | 21:47 |
| jogo | right | 21:47 |
| mriedem | i didn't think it was the same goal as nova-net to neutron migrations | 21:47 |
| mriedem | i thought it was just neutron > neutron that wasn't working | 21:47 |
| sdague | mriedem: oh, is this just neutron? | 21:47 |
| jogo | not clear on what we meant by grenade testing with neutron as a goal for k1 | 21:47 |
| sdague | neutron is working | 21:48 |
| mriedem | sdague: i thought so | 21:48 |
| mriedem | neutron > neutron pre summit wasn't working in grenade | 21:48 |
| mriedem | if it's working now, huzzah | 21:48 |
| sdague | yeh, I'm not clear why neutron grenade would be a nova item :) | 21:48 |
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| sdague | sorry to add to confusion there | 21:48 |
| mriedem | idk | 21:48 |
| jogo | sdague: we are babysitting them | 21:48 |
| mriedem | oooooo | 21:48 |
| mestery | lol | 21:48 |
| dansmith | yeah, there are sideways items in later milestones | 21:48 |
| sdague | ok, yeh, that's been working for at least a week | 21:48 |
| mriedem | moving on, 12 min left | 21:48 |
| * mestery is confused | 21:48 | |
| mriedem | funtional testing - sdague has that started | 21:49 |
| mriedem | api samples tests are in functional | 21:49 |
| mriedem | sdague: next steps on that? | 21:49 |
| dansmith | fixture refactoring | 21:49 |
| mriedem | links? | 21:49 |
| jogo | we have the functional test tree, which was the gaol | 21:49 |
| mriedem | oh those are k2, nvm | 21:49 |
| dansmith | and we have some folks that are supposed to start work on some functional tests for numa to go into the functional tree | 21:49 |
| mriedem | yeah | 21:49 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:49 |
| mriedem | moving on | 21:49 |
| mriedem | there is a big sublist here for scheduler | 21:49 |
| mriedem | test refactor - done right? | 21:49 |
| bauzas | yeah | 21:49 |
| jogo | mriedem: lets double back to that one | 21:49 |
| bauzas | mriedem: in progress | 21:50 |
| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134532/ - or a month, as the case may be | 21:50 |
| jogo | since that may take a while | 21:50 |
| mriedem | not much time left, or items, so pushing through | 21:50 |
| bauzas | mriedem: progress can be track using https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/make-resource-tracker-use-objects,n,z | 21:50 |
| mriedem | nova objects for hardware.py? | 21:50 |
| bauzas | mriedem: on the way too | 21:50 |
| mriedem | cpu pinning? | 21:50 |
| mriedem | i think that's done | 21:50 |
| n0ano | mriedem, it is | 21:50 |
| * bauzas passes | 21:50 | |
| mriedem | huge pages | 21:50 |
| bauzas | I think it's done | 21:51 |
| n0ano | mriedem, needs one more +2 | 21:51 |
| dansmith | thatr's up I think | 21:51 |
| mriedem | n0ano: link? | 21:51 |
| bauzas | n0ano: you sure ? | 21:51 |
| bauzas | we can ask sahid tomorrow | 21:51 |
| n0ano | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129608/ | 21:51 |
| dansmith | I think there is still plenty to merge for that, no? | 21:51 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:merged+project:openstack/nova-specs+branch:master+topic:virt-driver-large-pages-kilo,n,z | 21:51 |
| mriedem | oh that's the spec | 21:51 |
| mriedem | nvm | 21:51 |
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| dansmith | maybe not | 21:52 |
| jogo | dansmith: that was my impression too | 21:52 |
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| mriedem | ok so huge pages sounds like it's behind | 21:52 |
| bauzas | ndipanov is off now but we can ask sahid tomorrow | 21:52 |
| mriedem | ok, "detach service from compute node" | 21:52 |
| bauzas | in progress, the main patches landed | 21:52 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:53 |
| bauzas | now, that's for compatiblity purposes | 21:53 |
| mriedem | get_available_resources from virt layer | 21:53 |
| bauzas | um | 21:53 |
| bauzas | it was merged to anohter spec IIRC | 21:53 |
| bauzas | n0ano: help ? | 21:53 |
| mriedem | moving on | 21:53 |
| bauzas | sure | 21:53 |
| mriedem | we skipped moving the hypervisor support matrix into the devref | 21:54 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: ^? | 21:54 |
| mriedem | or was that mikal? | 21:54 |
| n0ano | not sure, all the specs (except jaypipes ) from our list have been accepted | 21:54 |
| dansmith | that was mikal | 21:54 |
| jogo | I thought I saw dapb patch up on that | 21:54 |
| dansmith | I dunno if he did it or not, I haven't seen it | 21:54 |
| gilliard | I thought danpb had a patch | 21:54 |
| dansmith | not critical though | 21:54 |
| mriedem | tonyb: punch mikal about hypervisor support matrix in devref | 21:54 |
| bauzas | agreed | 21:54 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:54 |
| dansmith | mriedem: whilst driving? | 21:54 |
| jogo | https://review.openstack.org/136380 | 21:54 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: why not, it's australia, what could happen? | 21:54 |
| dansmith | well, we could lose tonyb | 21:55 |
| dansmith | mikal, meh | 21:55 |
| gilliard | and a kangaroo | 21:55 |
| mriedem | and a wallaby | 21:55 |
| dims__ | haha | 21:55 |
| mriedem | ha | 21:55 |
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| mriedem | moving on | 21:55 |
| tonyb | mikal is a terrible person | 21:55 |
| mriedem | nova-net > neutron migration | 21:55 |
| mriedem | mestery: ^ ? | 21:55 |
| tonyb | he thought it had landed | 21:55 |
| tonyb | we're walking from car -> cafe | 21:55 |
| mestery | mriedem: I have an email out to the nuetorn dev working on that (obondarev) | 21:55 |
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| mestery | I was under the impression a spec was filed in nova, I found out today there was none :( | 21:55 |
| mestery | I am trying to fix that | 21:56 |
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| mriedem | mestery: ah, our etherpad makes it sounds like a spec in neutron | 21:56 |
| dansmith | hmm | 21:56 |
| mestery | lol | 21:56 |
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| mestery | mriedem: I thought nova! :) | 21:56 |
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| dansmith | well, | 21:56 |
| mriedem | i don't remember | 21:56 |
| dansmith | I thought there were nova bits | 21:56 |
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| dansmith | and that those would be in our specs | 21:56 |
| jogo | mestery: I don't see it in nova | 21:56 |
| jogo | nova-specs | 21:56 |
| dansmith | I'm a little concerned, | 21:56 |
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| dansmith | because this is supposed to be a big deal this cycle | 21:56 |
| mestery | jogo: Yes, I found out it's not there, I reached out to obandarev, he's in Russia | 21:57 |
| mestery | dansmith: It is, and I'm sorry if it's fallen through the cracks, that's on me, and I'm doing my best to recover it now. | 21:57 |
| jogo | ahh, mestery can you send something to the ML about the progress of this | 21:57 |
| mriedem | ok, so i guess we shoot for an exception | 21:57 |
| mriedem | yeah pleease | 21:57 |
| n0ano | since it's n-net -> neutron does that mean all the specs are in neutron? | 21:57 |
| jogo | as this is kinda a big deal | 21:57 |
| mestery | jogo: There was a thread on this last week | 21:57 |
| mriedem | n0ano: don't think so | 21:57 |
| mestery | We'll circle back | 21:57 |
| jogo | (likst like mikal) | 21:57 |
| jogo | mestery: oh? link | 21:57 |
| * mestery goes to look | 21:57 | |
| bauzas | n0ano: nope, it was not what was discussed in the summit IIRC | 21:57 |
| mriedem | i saw some threads in nova about neutron vif drivers and plugins and stuff | 21:58 |
| mriedem | i don't remember migration talk | 21:58 |
| n0ano | then yes, sounds like something fell through the cracks | 21:58 |
| * bauzas checking the summit etherpad | 21:58 | |
| mestery | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/052771.html | 21:58 |
| mestery | jogo: ^^^ | 21:58 |
| mestery | Not much, but I'll get to the bottom of this. | 21:58 |
| bauzas | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron | 21:58 |
| jogo | mestery: thanks | 21:59 |
| mriedem | and this http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-November/050406.html | 21:59 |
| jogo | 1 minute and 1 more to go | 21:59 |
| mriedem | gdi | 21:59 |
| mriedem | microversions? | 21:59 |
| mriedem | land first as proof it works | 21:59 |
| mriedem | anyone know? | 21:59 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: ^? | 21:59 |
| dansmith | I thought it was landing imminently | 21:59 |
| gilliard | I think they're almost all merged | 21:59 |
| sdague | the infrastructure patches are still landing, I think about 1/2 are in | 21:59 |
| tonyb | mriedem: I didn't think we were quite there yet | 21:59 |
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| mriedem | ok, i haven't been on those, but ok | 22:00 |
| n0ano | bauzas, look at the milestones sections of that etherpad - "Most of this is a neutron work" | 22:00 |
| bauzas | n0ano: agreed | 22:00 |
| mriedem | last item was midcycle - i think that's in the ML - register early or you might be stuck | 22:00 |
| tonyb | mriedem: I'll find cyeoh and ask him. | 22:00 |
| mriedem | tonyb: thanks | 22:00 |
| mriedem | ending meeting | 22:00 |
| mriedem | #openstack-nova for the rest | 22:00 |
| mriedem | thanks | 22:00 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 22:00:47 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-12-18-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| alex_xu | mriedem, i don't now there isn't any first proof yet, there are some api change spec on gerrit | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-12-18-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2014/nova.2014-12-18-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
| gilliard | Tight ship, mriedem | 22:00 |
| dansmith | indeed | 22:01 |
| dansmith | +1 | 22:01 |
| sdague | +1 | 22:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: top job | 22:01 |
| tonyb | mriedem: thanks | 22:01 |
| alaski | thanks | 22:01 |
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| tonyb | mriedem: I'll be sure to tell Mikal you did an awesome job | 22:01 |
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| bauzas | :) | 22:01 |
| dansmith | heh, as if he's gunning for a raise? | 22:01 |
| dansmith | 0 * 10 is still 0 :) | 22:01 |
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| tonyb | dansmith: I didnt think that was a thing that happend anymore | 22:01 |
| mriedem | ha | 22:02 |
| dansmith | tonyb: 10x raises? they're easy when the base salary is zero :) | 22:02 |
| tonyb | dansmith: well there is that | 22:02 |
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| tonyb | anyway breakfast | 22:02 |
| tonyb | talk to you all next year if not before | 22:02 |
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