Friday, 2014-09-19

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cyeoh#startmeeting nova api00:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Sep 19 00:01:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cyeoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.00:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova_api'00:01
cyeohHi! Who is here today?00:01
oomichihello!00:01
alex_xugood morning!00:01
eliqiaohi cyeoh.00:01
gmannhi00:01
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cyeohok let's get started.00:02
cyeoh#topic v2 on v3 api00:02
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cyeohSo nothing merging now given the rc is so close but I think we should continue spending some time reviewing the patches we do have00:03
cyeoheg. there's a bunch of new network related ones00:03
cyeohso when Kilo opens we can merge very quickly00:03
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oomichicyeoh: that means revewing with WIPs?00:03
cyeoheveryone ok with that? (Just ignore the -2's/WIPs on the patches)00:04
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cyeohoomichi: yea I don't think that will hurt will it?00:04
alex_xuI'm ok00:04
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oomichicyeoh: nice for me00:04
cyeohThe only patch I have that is WIP that is truly WIP is the extension info one00:04
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gmannsounds good00:04
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eliqiaoremove WIP of network proxy patch?00:04
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cyeoheliqiao: don't remove the WIP or they might get -2'd00:05
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cyeohbut when you have time do review any of the v2-on-v3 patches even if they are marked WIP00:05
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eliqiaookay00:05
cyeohso hopefully we can get them all cleaned up a ready to merge00:05
oomichicyeoh: we need to post spec for v2.1 kilo00:06
cyeohoomichi: I was hoping to just sneak them in :-)00:06
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cyeohI guess we could just repost the same spec00:06
oomichion https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116699/ discussion, the v2.1 spec will be approved soon after kilo open00:06
oomichicyeoh: yes, right. enough to repost the same spec for kilo, maybe00:07
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cyeohoomichi: it should be - we'll keep microversions separate00:08
oomichicyeoh: yea, we should separate it for avoiding slow progress :)00:08
cyeohwill ask PTL & John - perhaps can just get an exemption since its continuing work00:08
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oomichicyeoh: sounds nice00:09
cyeohanything else on v2 on v3? (will talk about microversions separately)00:10
gmanncyeoh: V2 has 'os-volume_attachments' resource to attach/detach/swap volume and V3 has server action ('attach' etc) for the same00:10
gmannas we need to port 'os-volume_attachments' for V2.1, do we keep V3 version also or remove that?00:11
cyeohgmann: hrm v2 doesn't have the attach server action?00:11
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cyeohdid we miss os-volume_attachments?00:12
gmanni think no, V2 has 'os-volume_attachments' no server action.00:12
oomichicyeoh: maybe we missed it.00:12
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gmannyes, we missed to port os-volume_attachment00:12
* cyeoh is just looking through his git tree00:13
alex_xuwe can move attach/detach code as os-volume_attachment00:13
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gmannalex_xu: yes but as in microversion we might need those API implemented as server action, should not we keep those also and provide os-volume_attachments for backward compatibility00:14
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alex_xugmann, I just think of share the code attach/detach/swap and os-volume_attachment will complex, so maybe we introduce those action back will more easy00:16
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alex_xubut I'm ok with both way00:16
cyeohis the implementation exactly the same? For some reason I remember talking about this before00:17
cyeohand I think I ended up deliberately removing the attachment code from volumes.py00:17
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cyeohok anyone I think this needs more looking into....00:18
alex_xua lot of different in input/output00:18
cyeohcan work it out offline I think00:19
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gmannyes, request response is main diff00:19
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alex_xuyes, can file a bug then track it00:19
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gmannok, i will release a WIP patch (by keeping V3 server action too) and then we can go for better direction.00:20
cyeohyea I think we'll need to re-implement it again00:20
gmannis it ok?00:20
cyeohyep thats fine. I think eventually we should just drop the v3 version00:21
alex_xuI'm fine too00:21
gmannok.00:21
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cyeohgmann: thanks for picking that up!00:21
cyeohok anything else for v2 on v3 api00:22
gmannwhile testing i found some more extension missed like disk_config too.00:22
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gmannI will keep updating etherpad about my finding.00:22
cyeohgmann: argh :-( Could you put them on the etherpad? And then someone can pick them up.00:23
cyeohthanks!00:23
oomichigmann: nice work!00:23
alex_xugmann, great job!00:23
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gmannsure thanks00:23
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cyeohhrm config_drive does seem to be ported?00:23
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cyeohunless for some reason its not loading properly?00:24
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cyeohanyway can look into it more - but it does appear that there is a v3 version which looks like it implements everything the v2 one does00:24
oomichiyeah, config_drive seems to be ported with I8a0d50efcda6fcd12971a41505127de5987eec1800:24
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gmannyes, but need to look. is it same with disk_config00:25
cyeohon sorry I misread - you said disk_config00:25
oomichigmann: NotFound config_drive with Tempest?00:25
cyeohgmann: yes you're right we're missing disk_config00:26
gmannerror is 'OS-DCF:diskConfig' not in server body00:26
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oomichigmann: sorry, that is a part of SchedulerHints00:26
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oomichiIeed7619f3cb310b25d157ebb07f24468aea1af9d is right commit id.00:27
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gmanni have added disk_config in etherpad. i will try to release today.00:28
cyeohgmann: cool :-)00:28
oomichigmann: thanks, I will see it.00:29
cyeoh#topic microversions00:29
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cyeohAlex has some ideas he's mailed out about microversions.00:29
cyeohalex_xu: do you want to paste think link to your blog post in here?00:29
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alex_xuThere is the blog post00:29
alex_xu#link http://soulxu.github.io/blog/2014/09/12/one-option-for-nova-api/00:29
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cyeohalex_xu: sorry I haven't read the revised version yet but will look at it soon00:30
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alex_xucyeoh, thanks!00:30
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cyeohjust wondering if anyone else had anything they want to talk about it?00:31
cyeohI think it's also fine if we just discuss it via email as well....00:31
oomichialex_xu: nice doc :-)00:32
oomichicyeoh: I agree, we need time for it.00:32
alex_xuoomichi, thanks, I also hope got your suggestion00:32
cyeohoomichi: ok, fair enough. I know I need to think about it all a bit more myself....00:32
oomichimaybe it would be nice to discuss it on -dev ml00:33
gmannyes, that was really nice doc and POC. I also need to go through it completely. ll provide my input if any00:33
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oomichimany people will join into the discussion.00:34
alex_xugmann, cool, thanks00:34
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cyeohoomichi: yes we should. alex_xu: do you want to start off an email thread?00:34
alex_xucyeoh, sure00:34
cyeohI still have strong reservations about parts. eg I don't want a method per version00:34
oomichithe doc is already nice for discussing it :-)00:34
cyeohbecause I think that's too much duplicated code, but we can talk about that more00:35
alex_xubut the doc isn't good for comment...00:35
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alex_xucyeoh, yea, a lot of thing need more think about00:35
cyeohyea a nova-spec is better for discussion but I think its worth sending it out for some general discussions first00:36
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oomichiyeah, right. we need many opinions. -dev is nice for getting them.00:36
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alex_xuyes, send as nova-spec when we ensure it is ready00:37
oomichialex_xu: thanks00:37
alex_xuoomichi, np00:38
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cyeoh#topic open discussion00:38
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cyeohok, is there anything else people would like to talk about?00:39
oomichione point00:40
oomichican we add v2.1 endpoint setting to devstack now?00:40
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oomichias yesterday maling list discussion, v2.1 endpoint is not registered to keystone yet.00:41
cyeohoomichi: I don't see why not00:41
cyeohit'd be useful for testing00:42
oomichicyeoh: my concern was experimental v2.1 now.00:42
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oomichibut it is necessary to test/use v2.1 with nova command.00:42
gmannyes, i have to change locally each time i test V2.1 :)00:43
oomichiI will try it later anyway :-)00:43
cyeohoomichi: i think its fine with it experimental. keystone folks are probably going to complain about yet another versioned endpoint though!00:44
cyeohsince that's not how its supposed to work00:44
oomichigmann: right, in many cases I use curl command for v2.1 testing. that is not useful for me:-(00:44
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oomichicyeoh: nice info, yeah will do it :-)00:45
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cyeohok is there anything else?00:46
oomichiyeah, good for me now :)00:47
gmannnothing from my side00:47
alex_xuthat's for me00:47
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alex_xuthat's all for me00:48
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cyeohok thanks everyone!00:48
cyeoh#endmeeting00:48
oomichithanks all!00:48
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gmannThanks All.00:48
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schwickehi, all16:02
schwicketime to start our meeting :)16:02
sajeeshhi schwicke16:02
schwicke#startmeeting hierarchical_multitenancy\16:02
openstackMeeting started Fri Sep 19 16:02:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is schwicke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy_'16:02
schwickewelcome everybody!16:02
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schwickeThiago dropped me a mail that he can't make it today16:03
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schwickeI have a few items on the radar for today16:03
NirbhayHi16:03
sajeeshhi nirbhay16:03
schwickeHi, Nribhay16:03
Nirbhayhi sajeesh16:03
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Nirbhayhi schwicke16:03
schwicke#topic hierarchial projects quota code testing16:04
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schwickefirst thing I'd like to clarify: there was some discussion about unit tests.16:04
schwickewhat is the status of them ?16:04
sajeeshyou mean horizon ?16:05
sajeeshthiago's code16:05
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schwickedo we have all unit tests for the quota code ?16:05
sajeeshschwicke,I am testing it and have corrected some bugs16:06
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schwickesajeesh: testing the quota code in the VM ?16:06
sajeeshwill upload the patches tomorrow16:06
schwickegreat!16:06
sajeeshyes16:06
schwickewhat needs to be changed ?16:06
sajeeshyes in the VM16:06
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sajeeshno some bug correction only16:07
schwickeok16:07
schwickeso that should be fine then ?16:07
sajeeshNow I will add raildo's code and will do the complete testing16:07
schwickeok16:08
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sajeeshit should be over by this week16:09
schwicke#info few bugs identifed in the quote code identfied16:09
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schwicke#action: Sajeesh will push the required patches16:09
sajeeshregarding horizon,I have asked Thiago for the VM16:10
schwickeyes, me too :)16:10
schwickeI'd like to continue for a minute with the nova stuff though16:10
sajeeshsure16:10
schwickelast meeting we had a question about the client code16:11
sajeeshyes16:11
schwicke#topic nova client code : any required updates ?16:11
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schwickeso my understanding is that it should work without change for the API but there are some worries about keystone V316:11
sajeeshexactly16:11
schwickeI had a chat today with Tim Bell on this16:12
sajeeshok16:12
schwickehe pointed out that it might be actually better not to focus on python-novaclient16:12
schwickebut rather to go for the unified interface (python-openstack I think)16:12
sajeeshpython-openstack ?16:13
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schwickeHe told me that they plan to deploy that here at CERN. It comes with a plugin already to support stuff like kerberos etc etc16:13
sajeeshok16:13
schwickeand has keystone v3 support.16:13
sajeeshok16:13
Nirbhaypython-nova-client16:13
schwickeraildo: do you know it ?16:13
sajeeshI think raildo is not available now16:14
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schwicke#link https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient16:15
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sajeeshok16:16
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schwickeThe cern patched version is actually here:16:16
schwicke#link https://github.com/cernops/python-openstackclient16:16
sajeeshok16:16
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schwickecertainly worth testing I think16:17
schwickecomments ?16:17
sajeeshschwicke..I will check it16:18
Nirbhayyes we need to provide keystone v316:18
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schwicke#action sajeesh will check nova-openstackclient after finishing the current testing and bug fixes16:20
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schwickesajeesh: if you need help we should discuss how we can distribute the load internally16:21
schwickelet's switch topic16:21
sajeeshschwicke....thanks ..we can discuss16:21
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schwicke#topic horizon16:22
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schwickeThiago offered to make a VM available for testing16:23
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schwickeI think I can best contribute by giving feedback on the look and feel16:23
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schwickeIt would be great to have such a thing16:23
sajeeshtrue16:24
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schwickenot sure how to get secure access to the gui though.16:24
sajeeshwe have to see that16:25
sajeeshin cern we access via socks proxy ..right ?16:26
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schwickehmm ...16:26
schwickemaybe ssh with X11 forwarding + a browser on the VM would work as well ?16:26
schwickethen open the interface to localhost only - up to Thiago really16:27
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schwicke#action it would be nice if Thiago could create a VM with the horizon patches installed16:27
schwickeI think we need to follow up by e-mail with Thiago (and Raildo)16:28
sajeeshok16:28
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schwickeRaildo: are you available ? Do you want to comment ?16:29
sajeeshHi Vinod...I think Nirupma too  had joined16:29
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schwickeVinod: hi16:30
Nirbhayhi vinod16:30
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schwickeniru-pma: hi!16:30
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niru-pmahi16:30
sajeeshhi nirupma16:30
schwickeI think Raildo is busy16:31
VINOD_schwicke, Nirbhay, sajeesh: hi16:31
VINOD_sorry for late joinging16:31
schwickeno problem16:31
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schwickeSajeesh: can you coordiate a bit with Nirupma to share the load ?16:32
sajeeshok...I will do16:32
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schwicke#action Sajeesh to coordinate with Nirpma to share the load16:32
niru-pmaiokies16:32
sajeeshschwicke..in what area you are expecting nirupma to work ..horizon ?16:32
schwickecode review and testing on horizon would be useful I think16:33
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sajeeshyes16:33
schwickeso that you can focus on finalizing the quota stuff16:33
sajeeshyes16:34
schwickeI'm not sure how useful I am in reviewing the code itself.16:34
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schwickeThere was quite a bit of traffic and work done by Thiago so I think it is a good time to start the review16:35
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VINOD_I am waiting for the sajeesh to give a VM with quota code integrated with raildo's keystone code. As soon as he gives me access, i will also test all the quota APIs16:36
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schwickeVinod: excellent!16:36
sajeeshVinod,I will give you soon16:36
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VINOD_Sajeesh: Thanks16:37
schwicke#action Vinod will help testing the quota code as soon as raildos keystone patches are integrated16:37
schwickeI think we have a plan16:37
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sajeeshyes16:37
schwickeI have one more item on the agenda to be discussed16:37
schwickeunless there is anything else on the previous topic16:38
sajeeshschwicke,plz proceed16:38
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schwickeRaildo posted the etherpad link last week16:38
sajeeshok16:38
schwicke#topic eitherpad on cross project topics16:38
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schwicke#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics16:39
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schwickequite a bit of updates since Wednesday when we have added the two points on hierarchical projects16:39
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schwickefor the hierarchal projects I think it looks good so far16:40
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sajeeshok16:41
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schwickenothing else from my side16:41
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sajeeshschwicke....what about nova v3 complete migration ...or is it v3 or v2.1..do we need to discuss16:42
sajeeshthat in the summit16:42
VINOD_The one thing that needs to adopted in quota code, when the feature of recursive deletion and change of parent in hierarchical projects is availabile in keystone16:42
schwickeyes, there is an item on the etherpad on this already16:42
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schwickemaybe that should be added16:43
sajeeshvinod,I think recurisive deletion doesn't have any effect on the quota code16:43
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schwickewith the exception of possible race conditions.16:44
VINOD_Sajeesh: It will have an effect..The nova should be able to catch the notification sent by keystone and clear the quota data stored for the projects that have been deleted16:44
sajeeshsure16:44
VINOD_any way, i think we can wait till the notification feature gets evolved...16:45
sajeeshvinod,notification is a different thing16:45
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sajeeshwhat I mean is that the nested quota driver will not be bother if it is recursive or non recursive16:46
schwickeI've added a sub-bullet: impact for h16:46
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sajeeshanyway ,I will cross check it16:46
VINOD_Sajeesh: Its same. The nova can come to know (Infact any other service) the changes in the project hierarchy through notification from Keystone16:46
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schwickeI think that is really a topic for the summit16:47
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VINOD_sajeesh: I mean when the notification comes to nova, in the nova notification procedure the quota cleaning also has to be there (but as i said, we can wait till this concept evolves)16:47
schwickethe important bit is that this is discussed at the summit16:47
sajeeshvinod,we can wait for the notification16:48
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schwickeI'm a bit worried about the other point: change the hierarchy16:48
sajeeshthat is really important16:48
schwickethe question is what that means16:48
sajeeshmeans ..parent ?16:48
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VINOD_schwicke: I think it means that a subset of hierarchy is moved from one parent to another parent16:49
schwickeVinod: that is my understanding as well16:49
sajeeshyes16:49
sajeeshschwicke, any issue with that ?16:49
schwickeIMO if quota don't match then there should be a way to veto such a change16:49
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schwickesajeesh: yes, it could be that the quota of the new parent is not sufficient in which case a move would have a funny impact16:50
sajeeshschwicke,these all things should be taken care well in the notification  part16:50
VINOD_schwicke: I think the notifications may not be synchronous as it may cause so much delay16:50
sajeesh++1,there should be veto if quota doesn't match16:50
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schwickewill add a sub-bullet16:51
sajeeshgood16:51
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schwickedone16:52
sajeeshschwicke....do we need to add about complete migration of nova v216:52
schwickeyou mean nova api version 2?16:52
VINOD_I think the notifications subject is not a small one. I guess first the notifications have to be divided into different types and each service may be notified and then the service does some thing with that particular notification..16:53
sajeesh schwicke ...according to Belmiro will be v2 ro v2.1 or v316:53
schwickevinod: I agree16:53
schwickesajeesh: do we need this really ? I don't think it is terribly important, is it ?16:54
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VINOD_and i guess these notifications may be asynchronous (to avoid the delay notifying all the services and waiting for their reply) and all the services apply a fail safe method..16:54
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sajeeshdon't know ?16:54
schwickevinod: yes, certainly.16:55
sajeeshvinod,what do you think about nova api call migration?16:55
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VINOD_sajeesh: I think its still long way to go to migrate to v3 for nova...and i don't find any conversation happening in doing this.16:56
sajeeshit is not urgent...right ?16:56
VINOD_its just adopting keystone v3 in all the services16:56
sajeeshok16:57
schwickethere is one bullet already on consistent API microversioning16:57
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schwickeI think this should cover this question.16:57
sajeeshI think so16:57
schwicketime is over :(16:57
sajeeshok16:57
schwickelet's follow up via e-mail on the action items16:58
sajeeshok16:58
VINOD_schwicke: ok16:58
schwickeand re-meet next week on Friday again16:58
sajeeshok16:58
Nirbhayok16:58
schwicke#endmeeting16:58
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VINOD_bye all...have a great weekend16:58
sajeeshGood bye all ...Have a nice weekend :-)16:59
schwickebye all!16:59
schwickehave a nice week end!16:59
niru-pmabye16:59
Nirbhaygood to all16:59
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