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| cyeoh | #startmeeting | 00:00 |
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| cyeoh | #startmeeting nova api | 00:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 15 00:00:37 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cyeoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 00:00 |
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| cyeoh | Hi - who have we got here today? | 00:00 |
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| alex_xu | \o/ | 00:00 |
| gmann_ | Hi | 00:01 |
| eliqiao | hi all | 00:01 |
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| cyeoh | ok let's get started | 00:01 |
| cyeoh | #topic v21_on_v3 | 00:02 |
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| cyeoh | So I think we all know about the worklist | 00:02 |
| cyeoh | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/v2_1_WorkList | 00:02 |
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| cyeoh | I think we have everything we need to work on in the etherpad, but please add more entries if you think something is missing | 00:03 |
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| cyeoh | Also I wanted to give everyone the opportunity to speak up if they think the implementation details of the approach we're taking on doing the conversion/port is wrong | 00:04 |
| cyeoh | before too much is merged :-) | 00:04 |
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| cyeoh | or simply if you have any questions of why we're doing some things the way we are | 00:04 |
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| cyeoh | anyone? | 00:05 |
| alex_xu | we will have second round works, like share api sample tests, policy stuff, we will doing those in K release? | 00:05 |
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| alex_xu | What we expected to finish in J? | 00:06 |
| cyeoh | alex_xu: yes we'll need to look at those. I'm not sure about the api sample tests but regardless we need to think about how we'll keep sharing in the context of microversions | 00:07 |
| cyeoh | (if we can) | 00:07 |
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| cyeoh | So we have less than a week to feature proposal freeze | 00:07 |
| cyeoh | so I think cleanup patches will be deferred to K | 00:07 |
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| cyeoh | the priority should be getting up patches before next thu (I think it is thu) | 00:08 |
| alex_xu | cyeoh, yea, sharing for microversion is complex | 00:08 |
| gmann_ | cyeoh: sounds good. when is the code freeze for J? | 00:08 |
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| cyeoh | so feature freeze is Sep 4 | 00:08 |
| cyeoh | proposal freeze is 21st august | 00:09 |
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| cyeoh | we can *probably* get exceptions for the proposal freeze, but it'd be better to get at patch up if possible before 21st Aug | 00:09 |
| cyeoh | even if it requires a bit more cleanup afterwards | 00:10 |
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| gmann_ | cyeoh: we have lot of patches out. I think my have to pace up the review also. | 00:11 |
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| eliqiao | I see lots of plugins are took by someone, but no patches out... :( | 00:11 |
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| eliqiao | I think we need to tell them we are in a hurry. | 00:12 |
| cyeoh | gmann_: yep that would be really helpful so when a core comes along they can just +2 it | 00:12 |
| gmann_ | I will try to do today as much as possible. | 00:12 |
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| cyeoh | eliqiao: yes, if anyone has reserved a plugin and don't think they'll have the time, please remove your name so someone else can | 00:12 |
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| alex_xu | gmann_, yes, I think we won't get too much review bandwidth, we better review them by ourselve first | 00:13 |
| cyeoh | (or just double check that you have put a link to the review on etherpad which shows that there is a patchset up) | 00:13 |
| cyeoh | but if you don't think you can get the plugin done by next wednesday, please release it and someone else will pick it up | 00:14 |
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| cyeoh | #topic open discussion | 00:14 |
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| cyeoh | any patches that people would like to be reviewed urgently (eg something that a lot of other patches depend on?) | 00:15 |
| eliqiao | cyeoh, I see lots of patches[1] need to modify | 00:16 |
| eliqiao | doc/v3/api_samples/all_extensions/* | 00:16 |
| eliqiao | nova/tests/integrated/v3/api_samples/all_extensions/* | 00:16 |
| eliqiao | 00:16 | |
| eliqiao | there woule be confict ... when merge these patches... | 00:16 |
| eliqiao | [1] | 00:16 |
| eliqiao | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114107/ | 00:16 |
| eliqiao | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114112/ | 00:16 |
| eliqiao | etc.. | 00:16 |
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| cyeoh | eliqiao: oh yes, sorry I meant to reply to your email | 00:17 |
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| cyeoh | yes, the server extension related patches may well conflict quite a bit | 00:17 |
| cyeoh | I think most of them will merge though | 00:17 |
| cyeoh | unless the lines changes really are adjacent | 00:17 |
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| cyeoh | there's no great solution | 00:18 |
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| cyeoh | I think its probably best to start initially putting them all in parallel | 00:18 |
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| cyeoh | and then rebase on master if you need to as they merge | 00:18 |
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| cyeoh | if we get to the state where we're sure they're all ok. We can make a string of dependencies and rebase patches so they are dependent on each other | 00:19 |
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| eliqiao | okay, thanks cyeoh, good idea. | 00:19 |
| cyeoh | then they will all merge at once - but its not probably worth doing that until they're at the stage where we're sure they're ok as otherwise there will be lots of rebasing | 00:20 |
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| cyeoh | ok. I didn't have anything else to talk about | 00:20 |
| dansmith | ooh, I have one | 00:20 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113947/ | 00:20 |
| dansmith | :) | 00:20 |
| cyeoh | dansmith: oh nice! | 00:21 |
| cyeoh | want :-) | 00:21 |
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| dansmith | it's more efficient for the fault case, | 00:22 |
| dansmith | which I think is what you're hitting normally, | 00:22 |
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| dansmith | and I guess we need to have more discussion about whether we get better about being very defensive about instances going away underneath us | 00:22 |
| cyeoh | dansmith: yea, thats where we've been hitting it in the gate | 00:22 |
| dansmith | cool | 00:22 |
| cyeoh | yea I agree we need a wider discussion about that | 00:23 |
| dansmith | I'm kinda mixed | 00:23 |
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| dansmith | as long as we have soft deletes, I kidna feel like objects shouldn't explode | 00:23 |
| dansmith | but also, not deleting stuff seems to be widely despised | 00:23 |
| cyeoh | the API layer really isn't structured to be handle that sort of circumstance because when it started out we were just passing around a dict of information | 00:23 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 00:24 |
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| dansmith | well, I guess that's a problem if we move to actually deleting things | 00:24 |
| dansmith | but whatever, that's a different bridge | 00:24 |
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| dansmith | anyway, my shameless link baiting is over :) | 00:25 |
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| cyeoh | thanks :) It's a race we've had for quite a while now in the API but I haven't had time to get a good fix for it - and its very very rare | 00:26 |
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| dansmith | well, you waited too late to shame me apparently :) | 00:27 |
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| dansmith | well, not too late, but too long | 00:27 |
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| cyeoh | heh. last time (for pci_devices) we just patched it, but that was because it broke the gate. This time its been failing, but not actually causing the test to fail. Anyway it'll all be good now :-) | 00:28 |
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| cyeoh | did anyone else have anything they wanted to talk about? Otherwise we can all have a short meeting and get back to coding :-) | 00:29 |
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| gmann_ | gmann: nothing from my side :) | 00:29 |
| alex_xu | nothing from me too | 00:29 |
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| cyeoh | ok, thanks everyone! | 00:30 |
| cyeoh | #endmeeting | 00:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 15 00:30:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2014/nova_api.2014-08-15-00.00.html | 00:30 |
| gmann_ | Thanks all. | 00:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2014/nova_api.2014-08-15-00.00.txt | 00:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2014/nova_api.2014-08-15-00.00.log.html | 00:30 |
| alex_xu | thanks all | 00:30 |
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| eliqiao | thx | 00:31 |
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| schwicke | hi all | 15:59 |
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| sajeesh | hi schwicke | 16:00 |
| schwicke | #startmeeting hierarchical_multitenancy | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 15 16:00:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is schwicke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hierarchical_multitenancy)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy' | 16:00 |
| raildo | hi all | 16:00 |
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| sajeesh | hi raildo | 16:00 |
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| schwicke | Nirbhay can't make it today | 16:01 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:01 |
| schwicke | Sajeesh: do you know if Vinod is going to join in? | 16:01 |
| sajeesh | don't know | 16:01 |
| schwicke | ok, no problem | 16:01 |
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| schwicke | #topic review of action items | 16:01 |
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| schwicke | in our last meeting we had a few action items. From the discussions with Vish later on IMO some of them got a bit obsolete | 16:02 |
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| schwicke | who managed to join in to the nova meeting ? | 16:03 |
| sajeesh | I couldn't ..since connection was not there | 16:03 |
| schwicke | for me the timing was that bad that at the end I did not make it :( | 16:03 |
| schwicke | I think we should follow Vish's advice and try to get the keystone parts in and go for a topical branch for the nova bits. | 16:04 |
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| schwicke | does that make sense ? | 16:04 |
| raildo | Sorry but I thought that after what vish said I thought it would not be necessary. | 16:04 |
| schwicke | exactly. | 16:04 |
| schwicke | raildo: that was my conclusion as well. | 16:04 |
| schwicke | it did not make sense to bring this up there again. | 16:05 |
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| schwicke | Vinod: hi! | 16:05 |
| sajeesh | hi...vinod | 16:05 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke, sajeesh: Hi | 16:05 |
| raildo | Look on the bright side, you have the Community review on hierarchical projects to enter the code: D | 16:05 |
| schwicke | :) | 16:06 |
| schwicke | any objections to conclude on : follow Vish's advice and try to get the keystone parts in and go for a topical branch for the nova bits. ? | 16:06 |
| sajeesh | +1 | 16:06 |
| schwicke | #agreed follow Vish's advice and try to get the keystone parts in and go for a topical branch for the nova bits. | 16:07 |
| schwicke | The other action items were on adding reviewers to the code | 16:07 |
| sajeesh | I have added | 16:07 |
| schwicke | great ! so we can tick that off | 16:07 |
| schwicke | #topic implementation status | 16:07 |
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| raildo | Vishy also revised the spec. | 16:08 |
| raildo | Well regarding to keystone-spec. Yesterday henry nash gave me a +1 on spec, but still missed a point to be discussed, I think we should close it today. | 16:08 |
| schwicke | Raildo: how is it going with the implementation of the API calls we agreed n ? | 16:08 |
| schwicke | +1 | 16:08 |
| sajeesh | raildo +1 | 16:09 |
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| raildo | Regarding the changes of API remain some points that my team is working on it now.Should be ready next week. | 16:09 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:09 |
| schwicke | great! | 16:09 |
| raildo | only changes in GET /projects and filters the /role_assignments | 16:10 |
| raildo | but nothing big | 16:10 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:10 |
| sajeesh | shwicke,regarding nova, quota allocation is about to finish..after that I will go to authentication part | 16:11 |
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| raildo | great | 16:11 |
| schwicke | ok | 16:11 |
| raildo | We will begin implementing the keystoneclient calls and are working on a POC for hierarachical projects on horizon | 16:12 |
| raildo | But we can discuss this later. | 16:12 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:12 |
| schwicke | once the quota stuff is done I think that we may have some free man power to help if you like | 16:13 |
| raildo | great :D | 16:14 |
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| schwicke | #agreed when quota stuff is finished BARC can help to look into a POC for horizon | 16:15 |
| raildo | We could discuss a design for hierarchical projects at Horizon. Also possible changes to other services, (or even in Nova) | 16:15 |
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| schwicke | indeed | 16:15 |
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| sajeesh | schwicke,what about nova v2 to v3 migration | 16:16 |
| raildo | I think it's still too early for that, but you will go to the Summit? | 16:16 |
| VINOD_ | raildo: even discussion needed on notifications to other services from keystone when a change happens like creation or deletion of a project | 16:17 |
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| sajeesh | +1 | 16:17 |
| raildo | I intend to have a design session for hierarchical projects v 2.0 | 16:17 |
| raildo | VINOD_: +1 | 16:17 |
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| schwicke | for the summit the timing is really bad for me. But I expect that we'll be well represented | 16:17 |
| schwicke | raildo: +1 | 16:17 |
| VINOD_ | raildo: what is verion 2.0 means is it meant for V2 API? | 16:18 |
| schwicke | I think the idea is more for a next iteration | 16:18 |
| schwicke | sorting out the stuff which we have skipped so far. | 16:18 |
| raildo | I'm having some problems (money) to go, but I'm trying to appeal to the travel support program | 16:18 |
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| VINOD_ | raildo: sajeesh, nirbhay, me will all in india...and so not possible to attend summit...it has to either schwicke or Nirupama (from BARC who will be there at CERN during that time) | 16:19 |
| raildo | VINOD_: No, a hierarchical projects 2.0, new features and increasing functionality. | 16:19 |
| sajeesh | +1 | 16:19 |
| schwicke | +1 | 16:20 |
| VINOD_ | ok | 16:20 |
| VINOD_ | I have a free coupon for summit on my name...but i have no idea whether it can be transferrable | 16:20 |
| schwicke | according to Tim it is transerable. And one idea was indeed to send Nirupama. To be discussed. | 16:21 |
| VINOD_ | I have just forwarded it again to Ulrich and Raildo | 16:21 |
| VINOD_ | i mean to the mail | 16:21 |
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| raildo | I have one and I signed up. The problem is that travel from Brazil to France is very expensive. =/ | 16:21 |
| schwicke | #action check if we can send Nirupama to the summit | 16:21 |
| VINOD_ | raildo: ok | 16:21 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: But i guess it will be good if you also be there.. | 16:22 |
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| raildo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Travel_Support_Program | 16:22 |
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| schwicke | dead line for applications is 18th | 16:24 |
| schwicke | that's Monday | 16:24 |
| VINOD_ | dead line for using the coupon is August 27th | 16:24 |
| raildo | schwicke: yes, I will send my submission today. | 16:25 |
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| VINOD_ | schwicke, nirbhay: one point i would like to make on the flow chart that Nirbhay sent about the "Authentication" for quota update. I think, the checking of "Is User role Project Admin?" should be moved ahead of "Is P immediate child of PP?". This is just to avoid one call to Keystone if the user does not have a project-admin role. | 16:26 |
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| schwicke | makes sense. | 16:31 |
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| schwicke | I think the latest version was not yet send to everybody | 16:31 |
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| VINOD_ | schwicke: ok | 16:31 |
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| sajeesh | ok | 16:32 |
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| schwicke | please answer directly to the mail so that it can be corrected and then we send it to everbody | 16:32 |
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| schwicke | #topic authentication flow chart for quota settings | 16:33 |
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| VINOD_ | ok | 16:33 |
| schwicke | #action correct the flow chart and resend to everybody | 16:33 |
| schwicke | #topic summit | 16:33 |
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| sajeesh | vinod,you are right | 16:34 |
| schwicke | coming back to the summit for the the timing is really really bad as our second child is due at exactly that time | 16:34 |
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| sajeesh | ok | 16:34 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: i can understand | 16:35 |
| schwicke | I have contacted Tim and Helge about possibilities for Nirupama | 16:35 |
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| sajeesh | ok | 16:35 |
| schwicke | Vinod: can you please check with Nirupama if he'd like to go ? | 16:35 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: I will let you know by monday | 16:36 |
| schwicke | Tim is in the committee I se.. | 16:36 |
| schwicke | s/e/ee/ | 16:36 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: But just a remainder, i think the coupon includes only the registration cost...and also it is valid only upto 27th August | 16:36 |
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| sajeesh | raildo,for identifying the root project,we are checking whether the parent id is null or not..any suggestion ? | 16:37 |
| schwicke | if I understand correcty he has to register by then | 16:37 |
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| raildo | This is the only way | 16:37 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:37 |
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| schwicke | anything else to be discussed today ? | 16:38 |
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| schwicke | #topic AOB | 16:38 |
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| VINOD_ | schwicke: nothing more from my side | 16:39 |
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| sajeesh | nothing from my side | 16:39 |
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| raildo | not from my side too | 16:39 |
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| sajeesh | if anything comes up,we can discuss offline | 16:39 |
| schwicke | I will be away for 2 weeks. Can't promise I can run the meeting | 16:39 |
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| schwicke | raildo: could you run the meeting next Friday and the week after maybe ? | 16:40 |
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| sajeesh | +1 | 16:40 |
| raildo | yes, no problem | 16:40 |
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| schwicke | #agreed Raido will chair the meeting in absense of schwicke (next 2 events) | 16:40 |
| schwicke | raildo:thanks a lot! | 16:40 |
| sajeesh | I am also on leave for 2 weeks,but I will try to connect | 16:40 |
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| schwicke | vinod: if possible, it would be great if Nirupama could join in as well | 16:41 |
| raildo | schwicke: you're welcome :) | 16:41 |
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| VINOD_ | schwicke: I will tell her... | 16:42 |
| schwicke | ok, great! | 16:42 |
| VINOD_ | schwicke: Wish you a great holiday....Enjoy | 16:43 |
| schwicke | thanks! | 16:43 |
| schwicke | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 15 16:43:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-08-15-16.00.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-08-15-16.00.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2014/hierarchical_multitenancy.2014-08-15-16.00.log.html | 16:43 |
| sajeesh | schwicke, Nice holiday to you :-) | 16:43 |
| raildo | have a nice weekend | 16:43 |
| schwicke | dito | 16:43 |
| sajeesh | Goodby all and have a nice weekend | 16:43 |
| schwicke | first time we did not use up the time :) | 16:43 |
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| schwicke | see you ! | 16:44 |
| schwicke | bye1 | 16:44 |
| sajeesh | schwicke,many things are clear now..that is why | 16:44 |
| VINOD_ | bye..and have a great weekend | 16:44 |
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| VINOD_ | Hope by next week, we will have good news from raildo...and get his code into the openstack...all the best | 16:45 |
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| raildo | i hope for this =D | 16:45 |
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| sajeesh | all the best raildo | 16:47 |
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| VINOD_ | so bye all...have a great weekend...see you next week | 16:47 |
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| raildo | bye all, thanks sajeesh | 16:48 |
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