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| primeministerp | hyper-v meeting is following utc time today | 14:58 |
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| iben | did I miss the meeting again? | 15:12 |
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| pnavarro | iben: no, you didn't | 15:13 |
| pnavarro | it's in 47 min | 15:13 |
| iben | oh -wait | 15:14 |
| iben | I was looking for hyper-v nova - which meeting is in 45 min? | 15:14 |
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| pnavarro | iben: hyper-v one | 15:16 |
| iben | okay - great! | 15:16 |
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| iben | i guess the time change here did not affect the UTC start time of the meeting so I get an extra hour this morning! | 15:16 |
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| iben | I need to update my outlook calendar invite!!! FTW | 15:17 |
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| primeministerp | iben: it's a utc daylight savings issue | 15:19 |
| primeministerp | iben: 35 min | 15:19 |
| iben | yes - right on peter - very cool beans. | 15:19 |
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| iben | Outlook is still trying to figure out how to deal with this. - how do you enter that in your calendar? | 15:20 |
| iben | maybe I need to try google calendar. ha ha | 15:20 |
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| iben | does anyone know if there's an openstack project / meeting for baremetal provisioning? | 15:23 |
| iben | pxe-boot and such? | 15:23 |
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| iben | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings | 15:23 |
| iben | does meetings = projects? | 15:24 |
| annegentle | iben: not really | 15:25 |
| primeministerp | iben: pretty much | 15:25 |
| annegentle | iben: bare metal is usually discussed in the nova meeting as needed | 15:26 |
| iben | that's what I thought | 15:26 |
| primeministerp | annegentle: whoops guess i'm wrong | 15:26 |
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| iben | okay | 15:26 |
| iben | thx | 15:26 |
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| annegentle | primeministerp: heh well more context needed | 15:28 |
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| annegentle | primeministerp: the answer to the basic question is yes, but for what he was looking for, no | 15:28 |
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| iben | i guess by project i mean there are a concentrated group of people working on an issue to provide extra features with a release schedule | 15:29 |
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| iben | they would probably have meetings for this initiative | 15:29 |
| iben | there'd be a leader | 15:29 |
| iben | and a sponsor | 15:29 |
| iben | and there'd be people who are interested in what's going on | 15:29 |
| iben | kind of like this rule - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1%25_rule_(Internet_culture) | 15:30 |
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| iben | but if bare metal is a subtopic of the nova project and it only comes up once in a while i wonder how much is being done with it | 15:31 |
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| iben | I will try to move from the 90% to the 9% to find the 1% guy that is maybe working on it | 15:32 |
| iben | The "90–9–1" version of this rule states that 1% of people create content, 9% edit or modify that content, and 90% view the content without contributing. | 15:32 |
| annegentle | iben: yep. I can connect you | 15:32 |
| annegentle | iben: Devananda van der Veen is the lead | 15:33 |
| annegentle | devananda: around? | 15:33 |
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| devananda | annegentle: sorta | 15:39 |
| annegentle | devananda: just wanting to introduce iben to you, interested in bare metal provisioning | 15:40 |
| devananda | i'm on airpor wifi, just got off a plane | 15:40 |
| * annegentle just now realized we're in openstack-meeting, oh well | 15:40 | |
| devananda | iben: hi! | 15:40 |
| devananda | iben: to answer a few questions i see in scrollback... | 15:41 |
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| devananda | no, there's not a separate baremetal meeting. we occasionally discuss it in #nova meeting | 15:41 |
| devananda | the baremetal driver is a subtopic of nova, since all the code lives in nova/nova/virt/baremetal (well, most of it) | 15:41 |
| devananda | however | 15:41 |
| devananda | we talk about it a lot in #tripleo | 15:41 |
| devananda | in the context of openstack-on-openstack | 15:42 |
| devananda | which is a broader thing than just baremetal provisioning | 15:42 |
| devananda | HTH :) | 15:42 |
| iben | right on - well - I'm looking for the current status of baremetal and seeing how I can help track / improve on that | 15:43 |
| iben | we have some customers looking into bare metal automation here | 15:43 |
| iben | so I wanted to point them in the right direction | 15:43 |
| devananda | great! | 15:43 |
| devananda | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Baremetal | 15:44 |
| iben | there are commercial implementaions of openstack that handle this in various methods but they are hardware specific and not really "open" | 15:44 |
| devananda | #link https://github.com/tripleo/incubator/blob/master/README.md | 15:44 |
| iben | awesome! thanks so much - i saw these but wasn't sure if they were active or not | 15:45 |
| devananda | yea... we're driving to make this open and provide a vendor-agnositc set of tools, which also support plugging in vendor extensions where desired | 15:45 |
| iben | it is good to know | 15:45 |
| devananda | these are *very* active | 15:45 |
| devananda | or rather, we are very active... heh... | 15:45 |
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| iben | i see! devananda 7 days ago Add link to baremetal wiki | 15:45 |
| iben | 5 contributors | 15:45 |
| devananda | iben: we have 3 presentations at the summit already approived, and possibly as many as 10 design sessions | 15:45 |
| devananda | around baremetal, openstack-on-openstack, and heat / orchestration of baremetal deployments | 15:46 |
| iben | oh wow - I will get there early for those | 15:46 |
| iben | thanks again | 15:46 |
| devananda | #link https://github.com/stackforge/diskimage-builder | 15:46 |
| devananda | last piece -- the tool we use to build baremetal machine images | 15:46 |
| devananda | the wiki needs lots of work still, fwiw. i'm just swamped with conferences right now .... | 15:47 |
| iben | yup. I can imagine. | 15:47 |
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| devananda | anything else before i go catch a bus? :) | 15:48 |
| iben | nope #iben-is-outta-here | 15:48 |
| iben | cheers! | 15:48 |
| devananda | cheers! o/ | 15:48 |
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| primeministerp | devananda: we should prob talk then too | 15:50 |
| iben | Peter - there's probably a lot of opportunities for us to help each other here. | 15:50 |
| iben | ehh? | 15:50 |
| primeministerp | devananda: i've been doing a ton around automating windows that could probably be reused | 15:50 |
| primeministerp | iben: yes | 15:51 |
| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 15:56 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 19 15:56:52 2013 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:56 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:56 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 15:56 |
| primeministerp | ok | 15:57 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: you alive? | 15:57 |
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| primeministerp | so couple updates from alessandro who is unavailable to join | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | Live migration with Volumes is fixed | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | also pnavarro thanks for the bugfix effort last week | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | it also seems that the rdp-console proxy/dashboard is well underway and should be available for demo at the summit | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | er dashboard integration | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | there were also some other minor bug fixes as well | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | iben: anything you would like to discuss | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | iben: i started the process of cleaning my puppet bits | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | iben: to hopefully add them to the puppetforge | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | iben hopefully in the next few days I'll make the available for consumption | 16:02 |
| luis_fdez | primeministerp: a lot of work there :) | 16:02 |
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| primeministerp | cern folks are also interested in the hyper-v/windows specific bits | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: o perfect | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: did you get my last email | 16:02 |
| luis_fdez | yep | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: as I mentioned, the windows bits don't really fit into the existing model | 16:03 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: mostly due to the windowsness | 16:03 |
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| luis_fdez | I know... but as a long-term goal... i would be ideal to have everything mixed... but I supposed the first steps must be done sepparatlely | 16:03 |
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| iben | hey team - is this list up to date? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: were you thinking of extending the existing modules to support windows | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: yes | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: so that being said | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | iben: yes | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | iben: from a hyper-v perspective | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | iben: i updated it a few weeks back | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: my goal is put my bits on the forge anyway | 16:04 |
| iben | nice | 16:04 |
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| luis_fdez | primeministerp: thanks, that will be a great contribution... as windows support is quite poor... | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I also have bits to generate custom winpe pxe bits | 16:05 |
| luis_fdez | i think the biggest drawback is always the package manager | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: yes | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: it sucks | 16:05 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: alive and squeezing my brain on c++ and python integration | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: now that puppet 3 has support for package = exe | 16:06 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: it'a bit better | 16:06 |
| iben | luis_fdez: for those of us that don't know - what are you working on? | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: i'm going to work on that | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | iben: luis_fdez works for cern | 16:06 |
| iben | ahh | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: he's in the process of preparing to deploy hyper-v | 16:06 |
| luis_fdez | yeps | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | er | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I'll try to get those out this week then | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: although I started a complete refactor | 16:07 |
| luis_fdez | ok, thanks primeministerp | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: had one the first refactor of my original bits | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | now i'm cleaning up those to conform to puppet 3 | 16:07 |
| luis_fdez | ok | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: and hopefully get it to completely build from source | 16:08 |
| luis_fdez | I also need to get up to speed with puppet... | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I also have all my unattend.xml generation puppetized | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: goal is to release all my provising kungfu | 16:08 |
| luis_fdez | that sounds really interesting | 16:08 |
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| luis_fdez | i'm thinking how could I mix it with automated image creation | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: all possible | 16:10 |
| pnavarro | ups sorry | 16:10 |
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| pnavarro | I forgot to go in | 16:10 |
| luis_fdez | hehe, of course primeministerp :) | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i'm using it for all baremetal deployments as well as base image creation | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I'll keep you posted on that | 16:10 |
| luis_fdez | ok primeministerp, thanks | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: anything you want to add | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: about the bugfixes last week? | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | o, re: summit | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | we have session | 16:11 |
| luis_fdez | not, working on that, contributing a bit to puppet, i'm implementing some missing facts for windows | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | Alex was also added as a presenter | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i just wrote a bunch of facts as well | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: basic ones | 16:12 |
| pnavarro | not really, primeministerp... | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: for system variables | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: ok | 16:12 |
| luis_fdez | ok primeministerp | 16:12 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: let me know if jan wants to have a call | 16:12 |
| luis_fdez | ok primeministerp | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i'd like to get a bit more organized around this | 16:12 |
| luis_fdez | he will :) | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: if i put it out sooner than later we can work together on the rest | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i know iben is also interested | 16:13 |
| luis_fdez | yeah, it think it will make it easier | 16:13 |
| luis_fdez | *I | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: that will be my goal for this week | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | then to try to get those out | 16:14 |
| pnavarro | luis_fdez: are you going to the summit? | 16:14 |
| luis_fdez | no, Jan and Belmiro, I'll be at Hepix | 16:14 |
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| primeministerp | anything else? | 16:15 |
| luis_fdez | primeministerp: ype | 16:15 |
| primeministerp | iben: ? | 16:15 |
| luis_fdez | primeministerp: about snapshoting of windows guests | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: is there bug? | 16:16 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: what's the issue? | 16:16 |
| luis_fdez | primeministerp: no, but I was wondering what could be the best way of snapshotting windows guests... and notifying them to be generalize or what is the first boot and thinks like that | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: you'll have to sysprep them | 16:17 |
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| luis_fdez | because now... if I snapshot a windows machine joined to domain with a concrete name... the following instances... will be the same... and I'm not sure about the best way of dealing with that | 16:17 |
| iben | there is a whole sysprep process to prepare a windows image | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | yep | 16:17 |
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| luis_fdez | primeministerp: I know... I know... but how to trigger it during snapshoting an image? | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: you have to run it before snapshotting | 16:18 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: same as if you were generating custom windows images for deployment | 16:18 |
| iben | so you have a running machine you want to clone into an image for use by others? | 16:18 |
| iben | normally the machine to be used as a template image is shutdown during the sysprep proecess | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i'm assuming your trying to take existing windows images | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: from openstack | 16:19 |
| luis_fdez | not really, i'm thinking in general... because if I want to do it in an automated way I'm not sure how to do it... | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: so | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: you need to have the domain join | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: as part of the sysprep starting process | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: you can apply unattend.xml for those parts | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | during the sysprep | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: it can get complicated | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i'm actually using puppet to have them join the domain, etc | 16:21 |
| luis_fdez | no, I know that but ummm.... is it possible for a running vm to detect that he's going to be snapshoted? | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: not that i know of | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: and you can't really use a snapshot | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: you have to down the vm | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | and take the vhd | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: would be the clean way | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: if you snapshot | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i.e. run sysprep, with all the necessary bits | 16:22 |
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| primeministerp | then snapshot | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | however | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | you still need a restart somewhere in there | 16:23 |
| iben | so - I know that vmware convertor can snapshot a running windows vm as long as vmware tools is installed | 16:23 |
| iben | it uses the vss driver | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | iben: we can snapshot w/ hyper-v too | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | iben: however don't know if its the best way to create master images | 16:23 |
| iben | the destination is a vmware vmdk image which can be converted to a ovf or ova | 16:24 |
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| iben | i'm just saying it's technically possible | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | sure, except we still can't boot those on hyperv | 16:24 |
| iben | and is commonly done for testing machine conversion | 16:24 |
| iben | you can even snapshot and convert a running physical machine to virtual | 16:25 |
| iben | that's a p2v | 16:25 |
| iben | then there are v2v v2p and p2p | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | hahaha | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | dude | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | x2x | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | that's so 2010 | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | hehehe | 16:25 |
| iben | i'm sure depending on the use case there's a way with different tools to get done what you need | 16:25 |
| luis_fdez | it's want I would like to be able to.... use openstack snapshoting to create templates that are automatically syspreped... | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: you might be able t o | 16:26 |
| iben | right - so we should write a story about that and work on the process | 16:26 |
| iben | peter - where on the openstack interweb would we post this work? | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: just going to have to figure out the specific task order before snapshotting i assume | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | iben: not sure | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | iben: a wiki page | 16:27 |
| iben | luis_fdez - if you like I can help you work on this | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i haven't needed to do much w/ sysprep lately however this is a key topic | 16:28 |
| iben | need to know your environment - can you skype? | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: iben we could document the process on the wiki | 16:28 |
| iben | skype me at: ibenrodriguez | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: iben or in the admin guide | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | i'm sure annegentle might have better suggestions too | 16:29 |
| luis_fdez | no, it's not a priority... I was just thinking about it... sysprep, unattended is not the problem (i'm using it to create the templates automatically) but the process of snapshoting is a bit different | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: I'll start to look at it | 16:30 |
| iben | yup - cool - once it's a proven procedure we can post in the admin guide | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | anything else anyone? | 16:30 |
| annegentle | yeah wiki is great for vetting, then post tested stuff to the admin guide | 16:30 |
| iben | if the snapshot is to be called from the hypervisor or outside the VM it would call the vss driver of the windows server guest vm | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | annegentle: awesome | 16:30 |
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| luis_fdez | primeministerp: from my side it's all :) | 16:31 |
| iben | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd722833(v=bts.10).aspx | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | iben: vss driver? | 16:31 |
| iben | the feature name is called: Host side backup support (VSS) | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: ok, thx for the input today | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: i'll keep you posed on my puppet progress | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | windows specific features? | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | iben: not sure how that applies? | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | let's take it to the hyper-v channel for further discussion | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | I'm going to close the meetign for now | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 16:33:41 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-19-15.56.html | 16:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-19-15.56.txt | 16:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-19-15.56.log.html | 16:33 |
| iben | we want openstack to be able to automate a snapshot call to a windows vm then trigger a sysprep off that snapshot | 16:33 |
| iben | need to move to new channel? | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | iben: openstack-hyper-v | 16:34 |
| iben | is it #openstack-hyper-v | 16:34 |
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| dwaite | keystone? | 17:04 |
| dwaite | or am I off an hour? | 17:05 |
| iben | daylight savings | 17:05 |
| iben | utc | 17:05 |
| iben | outlook messed me up since I entered the meeting in local timezone instead of utc | 17:06 |
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| dwaite | curse you, DST! | 17:08 |
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| iben | you need to enter the calendar meeting in utc instead of local time zone | 17:12 |
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| dwaite | aha, I was tricked. The time link on the KeystoneMeeting page is actually a link to March 5, 2013, when we were still on standard time :) | 17:16 |
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| dolphm | o/ | 17:59 |
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| topol | dwaite, next week will be your week to get it right :-) | 17:59 |
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| stevemar | o/ | 18:00 |
| dolphm | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 19 18:00:08 2013 UTC. The chair is dolphm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| dwaite | don't know whether its better to be 55 minutes early or 5 minutes late | 18:00 |
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| ayoung | \O/ | 18:00 |
| dolphm | i totally missed last weeks meeting | 18:00 |
| dolphm | partly due to time change and partly due to being pulled away from my desk | 18:00 |
| dolphm | anyway, hola everyone | 18:01 |
| topol | Hi | 18:01 |
| spzala | Hi all! | 18:01 |
| henrynash | hi | 18:01 |
| gyee | \o | 18:01 |
| stevemar | Howdy | 18:01 |
| [1]fabio | hi | 18:01 |
| dolphm | heckj: thanks for sticking around :) | 18:01 |
| bknudson | hi | 18:01 |
| dolphm | henrynash: /salute | 18:01 |
| henrynash | likwwise :-) | 18:01 |
| ayoung | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:01 |
| dolphm | ayoung: thanks :P | 18:02 |
| henrynash | maybe round cyber-applause is appropriate for Dolph…..and a thank you to Joe | 18:02 |
| dolphm | #topic RC1 bugs | 18:02 |
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| dolphm | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 18:02 |
| topol | Agreed!!! | 18:02 |
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| dolphm | lol thanks everyone | 18:03 |
| ayoung | thanks to everyone involved. dolphm I especailly thnk you for taking on the additional work that I have no desire to do, and henrynash for being willing to do so | 18:03 |
| dolphm | ayoung: appreciated | 18:03 |
| ayoung | dolphm, before we do that list, can we take a quick scan through the open bugs to see if there is anything that should be on there that isn't? | 18:03 |
| dolphm | ayoung: so, i ran through the remaining bugs this morning, i didn't see anything that should block RC | 18:04 |
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| gyee | dolphm, I think we still have a bug on the v2 v3 intermix for non default domains | 18:05 |
| ayoung | dolphm, wasthat before or after I noticed the timeout isssue? | 18:05 |
| gyee | but I need to confirm first | 18:05 |
| dolphm | if anyone is aware of a bug that is not targetted toward RC1 that should be, please mention it / tag it / target it / etc | 18:05 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: i assume before | 18:05 |
| dolphm | gyee: another bug? | 18:05 |
| gyee | we shouldn't be able to validate token using v2 for non default domains | 18:05 |
| dolphm | gyee: +1 | 18:05 |
| gyee | dolphm, I need to confirm it first | 18:05 |
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| dolphm | the response to such a request wouldn't make sense on v2 / would cause issues with clients depending on tenant name, etc | 18:06 |
| gyee | right | 18:06 |
| bknudson | I'd like to see this one fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1092187 | 18:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1092187 in keystone "LDAP implementation incomplete for User Groups" [Undecided,In progress] | 18:06 |
| gyee | dolphm, I am also concerned with Swift ACLs and nova client migration | 18:06 |
| gyee | novarc is using tenant name instead of tenant ID | 18:06 |
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| bknudson | because without it, LDAP identity backend returns 501 Not Implemented for authentication | 18:06 |
| dolphm | gyee: that's also consuming v2 specifically, correct? | 18:07 |
| topol | bknudson, thats sahdev's I think it got red x'd | 18:07 |
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| dolphm | gyee: so it tenant name would assume default domain | 18:07 |
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| gyee | dolphm, correct, we need figure out a migration path | 18:07 |
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| dolphm | gyee: is there an issue on the keystone side though? | 18:07 |
| topol | sahdev, how close are you on 1092187 | 18:07 |
| gyee | dolphm, no | 18:07 |
| spzala | btopol: yes, that's true! | 18:07 |
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| gyee | just nova and swift migration to consume v3 | 18:08 |
| dolphm | gyee: my goal for keystoneclient is to assume v3 if a domain is specified, for example... could the same apply there? | 18:08 |
| spzala | btopol: I believe it's done. | 18:08 |
| topol | sahdev, are you done with 1092187? | 18:08 |
| dolphm | bug 1092187 | 18:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1092187 in keystone "LDAP implementation incomplete for User Groups" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1092187 | 18:08 |
| topol | sahdev, OK | 18:08 |
| topol | so code is there for review. dolphm, I believe it was feeling like a feature as opposed to a bug so you red x'd it | 18:09 |
| dolphm | topol: does this need to block RC1? | 18:09 |
| dolphm | there's a merge there | 18:09 |
| topol | ll let bknudson answer | 18:10 |
| topol | he's asking for it | 18:10 |
| bknudson | I don't think it needs to block rc1 | 18:10 |
| bknudson | as long as there's another rc or something it can block. | 18:10 |
| dolphm | bknudson: spzala: should a new bug be filed? the current one at least needs to be revised to indicate what's lacking | 18:10 |
| dolphm | bknudson: RC is a potential grizzly release, so that's not really feasible | 18:11 |
| dolphm | bknudson: at least, not a guarantee | 18:11 |
| spzala | dolphm: sure, can do that. | 18:11 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I think the bug says what the problem is... the LDAP implementation isn't complete... since it's not complete something isn't implemented so it returns 501. | 18:11 |
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| dolphm | bknudson: that's super vague though -- what's broken / missing? | 18:12 |
| bknudson | groups support | 18:12 |
| spzala | dolphm: the bug provides supprt for group crud, add/delete users in group, list groups etc. and also domain crud | 18:12 |
| bknudson | I don't have a problem with a new bug | 18:12 |
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| ayoung | Ah..yeah. Groups. | 18:12 |
| ayoung | I thought we had acked that a long time ago. | 18:13 |
| gyee | LDAP is natural for groups :) | 18:13 |
| dolphm | the current ldap solution is sufficient for v2 controllers, correct? | 18:13 |
| topol | dolphm, yes I believe so. At least all the live regressions ldap tests run thanks to crazed | 18:13 |
| spzala | ayoung: this is one is for LDAP. The group support was done for sql and kvs. | 18:13 |
| topol | dolphm, and all the v2 controller stuff already worked | 18:14 |
| dolphm | i'd vote for shipping grizzly without ldap support for v3, it's a bit late to "fix" that | 18:14 |
| bknudson | When I configure the LDAP backend using devstack, I get 501 Not Implemented from keystone token-get. | 18:15 |
| dolphm | bknudson: know which driver call is triggering that, specifically? | 18:15 |
| gyee | bknudson, LDAP is meant for highly static data | 18:15 |
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| gyee | token is not static data | 18:15 |
| dolphm | i don't think a backtrace would be logged specifically | 18:15 |
| dolphm | gyee: there is no token driver for ldap, but auth consumes identity_api which is implemented by ldap | 18:16 |
| dolphm | any driver call there could cause a 501 | 18:16 |
| gyee | dolphm, there shouldn't be | 18:16 |
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| gyee | token is not static data and shouldn't be stored in LDAP | 18:16 |
| ayoung | spzala, I was referringto LDAP specifically | 18:16 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I'll look for the function, I was just trying this yesterday. | 18:16 |
| dolphm | gyee: agree | 18:16 |
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| ayoung | spzala, the issue was how users are assigned, and what objectclass to use | 18:16 |
| spzala | ayoung: :) Ah... | 18:17 |
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| spzala | ayoung: yes | 18:17 |
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| ayoung | spzala, so if we use groupOfName, users go in member, but some of the LDAP servers won't allow the roles to be assigned under it | 18:17 |
| ayoung | alternative was to use OU | 18:17 |
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| spzala | ayoung: hmmm... the fix I have submitted for review is using groupOfName | 18:18 |
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| ayoung | I think the review for that closed long enough ago due to a -1 that it is off the report...let me see if I can find it | 18:18 |
| dolphm | i'd like to have a patch *ready* to be merged to grizzly, and then ask ttx for permission -- this blurring the lines between bug and feature freeze extension | 18:18 |
| spzala | ayoung: OK #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/ | 18:18 |
| dolphm | spzala: apparently i'm already blocking it :P | 18:19 |
| ayoung | how am I not on that one? | 18:19 |
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| spzala | dolphm: :) yes | 18:19 |
| dolphm | spzala: is this ready to merge & satisfy ldap support for v3, in your opinion? | 18:19 |
| gyee | dolphm, what's the deadline for rc1? | 18:19 |
| dolphm | gyee: asap | 18:19 |
| spzala | ayoung: ah, sorry about that. | 18:19 |
| gyee | ha | 18:19 |
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| dolphm | #link http://old-wiki.openstack.org/release/rc/ | 18:19 |
| dolphm | the race to rc1 ^ :) | 18:19 |
| spzala | dolphm: yes, I think so. I have tested it with fake and real ldap | 18:20 |
| dolphm | spzala: appreciated | 18:20 |
| gyee | lets do this! | 18:20 |
| spzala | dolphm: no problem! | 18:20 |
| dolphm | ttx: do i need to ping you on list for ultra late FFE or can i drag you into our meeting? | 18:20 |
| ayoung | spzala, that might work for OpenLDAP. Won't work for AD | 18:20 |
| spzala | ayoung: I didn't realize about it | 18:20 |
| spzala | ayoung: but adding you as reviewer now | 18:20 |
| ayoung | spzala, I think that is near to identical to an Nack review...looking | 18:20 |
| ayoung | spzala, already did | 18:21 |
| gyee | whoever uses AD will have to pay the consultants :) | 18:21 |
| spzala | ayoung: :) that was quick. Thanks! | 18:21 |
| dolphm | #action dolphm to ask for FFE for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/ | 18:21 |
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| topol | ayoung, does he just need to change an objectclass choice for AD? | 18:22 |
| ayoung | THis should be brought back to life, BTW. spzala want to take it? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22558/ | 18:22 |
| dolphm | #action gyee to test for non-default domain token validation on v2 | 18:22 |
| ayoung | topol, define the word "just" | 18:22 |
| spzala | ayoung: sure | 18:22 |
| gyee | dolphm, I should have that done today | 18:23 |
| dolphm | gyee: awesome | 18:23 |
| topol | ayoung, Im missing something. What would need to change? | 18:23 |
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| dolphm | #topic RC blocker: domain validation | 18:24 |
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| dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24753/ | 18:24 |
| dolphm | henrynash: just want to check in on status | 18:24 |
| ayoung | topol, looking. THis might have been resolved...I remember the problem, but not if we came to a solution... | 18:24 |
| bknudson | Running in the debugger, the exception is thrown from /opt/stack/keystone/keystone/identity/core.py(581)list_groups_for_user() | 18:24 |
| dolphm | henrynash: any issues, need help, etc? | 18:24 |
| bknudson | keystone.token.controllers _get_group_metadata_ref() calls self.identity_api.list_groups_for_user, | 18:24 |
| bknudson | and the LDAP backend doesn't implement list_groups_for_user | 18:24 |
| henrynash | dolphm: so main one I am working on is Big 1130236 | 18:24 |
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| henrynash | bug 1130236 | 18:24 |
| dolphm | bug 1130236 | 18:24 |
| bknudson | dolphm: ^ that's what's missing, list_groups_for_user. | 18:24 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130236 | 18:24 |
| topol | ayoung, I thought you and Jose agreed on the schema and put it in a blueprint | 18:24 |
| ayoung | topol, sounds right...I haven't thought about this in a while, and wasn't tracking it actively | 18:25 |
| henrynash | dophm: just struggling to get various tests to function, although found a few interesting issues along the way | 18:25 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: can you post a revised WIP? i should have time to poke at it later today as well | 18:26 |
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| henrynash | (e.g. we don't to a copy when we do a get from our kvs backend…so you can change the values without doing a set!_ | 18:26 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: yes, will do tonight | 18:26 |
| henrynash | dolphm: in fact, I;ll do it in the next 30 mins | 18:26 |
| topol | ayoung, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/ldap-groups | 18:26 |
| dolphm | henrynash: awesome | 18:26 |
| ayoung | topol, thank you, launchpad was mocking me | 18:27 |
| henrynash | dolphm: two other bugs on my list I am suggesting we don't fix. | 18:27 |
| henrynash | bug 1153645 | 18:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1153645 in keystone "Deleting a role should revoke any tokens associated with it" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153645 | 18:27 |
| henrynash | working around is that if you remove a rol form someone explicitly, then we DO revoke tokens | 18:27 |
| henrynash | its just deleting the role itself, that doesn't revoke | 18:28 |
| henrynash | bug 1125046 | 18:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1125046 in keystone "Downward migration from separate domain name spaces can cause name clashes" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1125046 | 18:28 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i'm thinking that should be marked as a public security issue | 18:28 |
| henrynash | dolphm: probably tru…we definitely fix it as soon as possible, just don;t think its an rc1 blocker | 18:29 |
| dolphm | the downward migration one probably shouldn't block rc either | 18:29 |
| henrynash | dolphn: agreed | 18:30 |
| ayoung | spzala, OK I am back tracking. If the powers that be are OK with pushing in groups for LDAP, I can ACK the review...I need to look a little closer at it before formally doing so, but the approach looks OK | 18:30 |
| henrynash | gyee: here's one we could clear up: bug 1154072 | 18:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1154072 in keystone "Auth_token middleware should cope with no response from "Get versions"" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154072 | 18:30 |
| dolphm | ayoung: does bug 1153645 overlap with one you filed? | 18:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1153645 in keystone "Deleting a role should revoke any tokens associated with it" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1153645 | 18:30 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, no, mine was token to token | 18:30 |
| spzala | ayoung: OK, sounds great. Thanks! | 18:30 |
| dolphm | ayoung: cast your review vote for ldap groups -- i'd like to have two +2's on it with my -2 before i bug ttx | 18:31 |
| henrynash | gyee: I made a comment on it for you….as to whether we really need this….if not, let's abandon | 18:31 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I thought we already delete all tokens upon removing a role | 18:31 |
| gyee | henrynash, sure | 18:31 |
| dolphm | ayoung: so we can switch to approve with permission asap | 18:31 |
| henrynash | ayoung: we should, that;s the bug :-) | 18:31 |
| ayoung | dolphm, will do... | 18:31 |
| gyee | henrynash, we probably don't need it as long as we have away to override | 18:31 |
| ayoung | henrynash, so we bypass the controller when removing the roles from the user, don't we? | 18:32 |
| dolphm | henrynash: can you mark that as a public security issue -- i don't see an option for that on launchpad, but i know you can | 18:32 |
| henrynash | gyee: we have the override | 18:32 |
| dolphm | ayoung: thanks | 18:32 |
| gyee | henrynash, I am OK with closing it as by design | 18:32 |
| henrynash | ayoung: so remove a role from a user is fine…I have covered that | 18:32 |
| henrynash | ayoung: the problem is if you just do a "role delete" | 18:33 |
| henrynash | gyee: ok, will do | 18:33 |
| ayoung | henrynash, I know. | 18:33 |
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| henrynash | dolphm: ok ,will do | 18:33 |
| ayoung | spzala, have you tested your changes with liveldap? You should be | 18:34 |
| spzala | ayoung: I tested with openldap installation | 18:34 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: thanks | 18:34 |
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| dolphm | #topic keystone.middlware.auth_token support | 18:35 |
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| spzala | ayoung: the way I tested was with openldap with real config data in the backend_ldap.conf | 18:35 |
| dolphm | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-March/006706.html | 18:35 |
| ayoung | spzala, did you run the _ldap_livetest suite? | 18:35 |
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| dolphm | i pinged the list about this -- i have two fixes in review... one cheap & easy but requiring configuration changes, and the other providing a hacky solution to maintain support (patch WIP and broken at the moment) | 18:36 |
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| spzala | ayoung: no :( I did it with openldap data via backend_ldap.conf. Thought that's the best way but will run _livetest suite just in few. | 18:36 |
| dolphm | just wanted to mention it here -- it's a RC blocker and i'm certainly open to creative solutions | 18:36 |
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| topol | ayoung, would spzala need to pull down crazed liveldap patch to be successful | 18:37 |
| ayoung | spzala, rebase on master and you should get the fixed tests | 18:37 |
| ayoung | topol, thought that merged? | 18:37 |
| spzala | topol: thanks, good point. | 18:37 |
| dolphm | gyee: chmouel: markmc: thanks for reviews | 18:37 |
| gyee | dolphm, I think we can just throw an exception when attempting to import keystone.middleware.auth_token | 18:37 |
| topol | ayoung did it? | 18:37 |
| spzala | ayoung: OK, that sounds good. | 18:37 |
| gyee | or make it a warning | 18:37 |
| dolphm | gyee: we actually can't | 18:37 |
| dolphm | gyee: i replied to your comment with a bit of an explanation, but the backtrace in the bug would be hit before you ever had a chance to log anything | 18:38 |
| gyee | they'll need to make the change anyway | 18:38 |
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| ayoung | spzala, running now...I'll post a rebased patch after the tests run | 18:38 |
| topol | dolphm, it sounded like you had two options, one was a bandaid that would hide the issue and the other was a needed change to the paste config. Is that correct? | 18:38 |
| dolphm | yep, but as a community we've also agreed to maintain backwards compatibility for config options for a couple releases before removing them | 18:38 |
| spzala | ayoung: great, thanks. | 18:39 |
| dolphm | topol: yes, exactly | 18:39 |
| dolphm | needs config change: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24251/ | 18:39 |
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| dolphm | bandaid to suppress the issue: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24701/ | 18:39 |
| dolphm | the second review is broken -- i wrote it without being able to test it in devstack, i'm working through those issues today, but you can see the intention in the review | 18:39 |
| gyee | if we need to maintain backward compat for 2 releases then the choice is obvious | 18:39 |
| gyee | B) | 18:40 |
| dolphm | gyee: if i can get (B) to work lol | 18:40 |
| topol | dolphm, I agree. From a serviceability perspective changing the config file was bad. doing problem determination will take time (hard to figure out the problem from the trace) so even if its just a config change the serviceability cost will be high | 18:40 |
| dolphm | it's going to be an elaborate hack | 18:40 |
| topol | dolphm, it seemed like the bandaid would not have any serviceability costs and the config file change could add up a lot | 18:41 |
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| dolphm | gyee: if we manage to keep keystone.middleware.auth_token though, i agree, it should totally raise a warning if imported successfully -- i'll do that in the second patch | 18:41 |
| ayoung | topol, it was approved, but didn't merge...grrr | 18:41 |
| topol | questions to the email list, questions to OS distributers, and other folks who have to provide serviceability | 18:41 |
| dolphm | topol: i think the op preference is clear, we just need to make it happen if possible | 18:42 |
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| topol | dolphm, I thought it was easy. I missed something then | 18:42 |
| topol | dolphm, I thought you just swallowed the exception | 18:43 |
| dolphm | topol: my bandaid breaks in other spectacular ways -- i'm trying to fix | 18:43 |
| spzala | ayoung: OK, I will pull crazed's liveldap patch | 18:43 |
| dolphm | topol: there are subsequent exceptions | 18:43 |
| ayoung | spzala, wait one and you can get it from gerrit | 18:43 |
| spzala | ayoung: OK, that's cool. | 18:44 |
| topol | dolphm, oh scary. that changes the whole equation | 18:44 |
| ayoung | spzala, I am going to resubmit yours rebased on it | 18:44 |
| dolphm | #action dolphm to try really hard to fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24701/ | 18:44 |
| ayoung | spzala, the tests fail... | 18:44 |
| spzala | ayoung: ah :( | 18:44 |
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| dolphm | topol: i'll try to clean up the final result as best i can | 18:44 |
| spzala | ayoung: hmmm | 18:44 |
| gyee | really hard? :) | 18:44 |
| dolphm | make it presentable :P | 18:44 |
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| dolphm | i assume we don't have any other high priority issues that aren't RC blockers, so.... | 18:45 |
| dolphm | #topic open discussion | 18:45 |
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| dolphm | 15 minutes :) | 18:45 |
| topol | ayoung, does spzala have time to debug | 18:45 |
| topol | its usually soemthing small. | 18:45 |
| ayoung | topol, looking myself...possible test issues and not backend | 18:45 |
| ayoung | topol, and possible schema issues as we know/ | 18:46 |
| dolphm | for anyone interested -- i'm going to try and review summit topics this week, so if you have one you're thinking about presenting, i'd welcome at least a draft or something on http://summit.openstack.org/ | 18:46 |
| dwaite | looking forward to the havana summit. actually a fair number of people from my company going now | 18:46 |
| topol | dolphm, we will be sending in stuff soon. | 18:46 |
| ayoung | spzala, pull down the latest, and you will get the live test. I mistrust my implementation enough that I think you should try running them yourself | 18:46 |
| dwaite | dolphm: one question, my proposal includes a lot of groundwork technology to cover, I think that might limit discussion time | 18:47 |
| dwaite | is there a way to get a slot larger than 40m, or break it into two parts? | 18:47 |
| gyee | dwaite, you can schedule some unconference sessions as well | 18:47 |
| dwaite | ok | 18:47 |
| spzala | ayoung: OK, sounds good and thanks for the quick test! | 18:47 |
| henrynash | dolphm: the authentication for disabled domains just got a bit worse….as well as v2 not checking, v3 allows you to authenticated by user_id to a disabled domain(although catches it if you authenticate by user-name) | 18:48 |
| dolphm | dwaite: i'll make a note, but unless that's the point of the discussion (discussing tech options), perhaps request that attending brief themselves on the list of pre-req's and jump straight in? | 18:48 |
| henrynash | bug 1130236 | 18:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130236 | 18:48 |
| dolphm | dwaite: ideally provide some links or something | 18:48 |
| ayoung | NO_SUCH_OBJECT: {'matched': 'dc=openstack,dc=org', 'desc': 'No such object'} | 18:48 |
| dolphm | s/attending/attendees/ | 18:48 |
| ayoung | looks legit | 18:48 |
| ayoung | dwaite, its ok, I think there will be enough of us with enough background that we can consume your session. I really want that one to be in the summit talks | 18:49 |
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| dwaite | dolphm, I can do that. link 'executive overview'-type documents, and provide just enough at the start to level-set and perhaps propose ideas on where the technologies can be leveraged | 18:49 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, as PTL I think you can pre-approve. heckj can you pass the magic incantations on for that? | 18:49 |
| dolphm | henrynash: hmm v2 isn't a huge deal because it's only default domain, although it should be checked.. | 18:50 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: does using user_id utilize a whole different code apth? | 18:50 |
| crazed | ayoung: any reason that live ldap test after approval failed? i noticed a no such file or directory error from jenkins, but have no insight to what went wrong there | 18:50 |
| dolphm | path | 18:50 |
| ayoung | crazed, pep8? Yeah, looks like a merge thing. I'm trying to push it through now | 18:50 |
| heckj | ayoung: dolphm: set log into the side - ttx has already updated it, so I can't pre-approve any longer. You'll see a button hiding off on the side that says something like "review keystone" for the sessions | 18:50 |
| heckj | er /side/site/ | 18:51 |
| henrynash | dophm: no it just only looks up the domain if it has to i.e. user-name…fix is quite easy, although, of course, I think it breaks some other tests | 18:51 |
| heckj | summit.openstack.org | 18:51 |
| crazed | ayoung: cool thanks | 18:51 |
| dolphm | henrynash: yeah i saw that and it scared me | 18:51 |
| ayoung | crazed, tell you what. I'll tkae care of that, van you help spzala with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/14 | 18:51 |
| dolphm | heckj: ^ lol | 18:51 |
| dolphm | heckj: there's a hundred more buttons that appeared | 18:51 |
| henrynash | dolphm: I've fixed it my patch, but trying to make sure the other tests work... | 18:51 |
| dolphm | henrynash: cool | 18:52 |
| heckj | heh | 18:52 |
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| crazed | spzala: what do you need help with? | 18:55 |
| spzala | crazed: thanks..I am going to pull your code and going to test my stuff with it.. and if I run into something then I may need help :) | 18:56 |
| dolphm | henrynash: thanks for revising description on bug 1130236 | 18:56 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130236 | 18:56 |
| henrynash | dolphm: np | 18:56 |
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| topol | dolphm, if we have time can you see if I did somehting evil in my latest fix ldap on fedora for devstack patch by including the openldap schema files in the patch? | 18:57 |
| topol | its a license thing im worried about | 18:58 |
| dolphm | topol: link? | 18:58 |
| topol | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24764/ | 18:58 |
| dolphm | topol: oh wow, i have no idea | 18:59 |
| topol | after pushing up the patch I noticed the following preamble: | 18:59 |
| topol | # $OpenLDAP$ | 18:59 |
| topol | 3## This work is part of OpenLDAP Software <http://www.openldap.org/>. | 18:59 |
| topol | 4## | 18:59 |
| topol | 5## Copyright 1998-2011 The OpenLDAP Foundation. | 18:59 |
| topol | 6## All rights reserved. | 18:59 |
| topol | 7## | 18:59 |
| topol | 8## Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without | 19:00 |
| topol | 9## modification, are permitted only as authorized by the OpenLDAP | 19:00 |
| topol | 10## Public License. | 19:00 |
| topol | 11## | 19:00 |
| topol | 12## A copy of this license is available in the file LICENSE in the | 19:00 |
| topol | 13## top-level directory of the distribution or, alternatively, at | 19:00 |
| topol | 14## <http://www.OpenLDAP.org/license.html>. | 19:00 |
| dolphm | topol: less pasting into irc ;) | 19:00 |
| dolphm | switching to -dev | 19:00 |
| dolphm | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 19:00:33 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-19-18.00.html | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-19-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-19-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
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| topol | ayoung, when openldap installs on fedora are the schema files placed somewhere and I can just copy from there? | 19:00 |
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| pleia2 | o/ | 19:01 |
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| fungi | howdy | 19:01 |
| ayoung | topol, yes, under /etc/openldap/schema | 19:01 |
| zaro | here. | 19:01 |
| topol | ayoung, awesome. Ill push a new version | 19:02 |
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| jeblair | hello infra/ci people | 19:03 |
| fungi | hallo | 19:03 |
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| jeblair | #startmeeting infra | 19:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 19 19:04:04 2013 UTC. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:04 |
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| jeblair | #topic actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
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| jeblair | i think we'll give clarkb another week on the new hpcs account, what with him being on vacation and all | 19:05 |
| jeblair | #action clarkb set up new hpcs account with az1-3 access | 19:05 |
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| fungi | i'm doubting clarkb or mordred are about | 19:05 |
| fungi | quantal stuff | 19:05 |
| jeblair | fungi: you migrated stackforge projects to quantal; howd that go? | 19:05 |
| fungi | seems fine so far | 19:05 |
| fungi | at this point everything except potentially release-impacting jobs are on quantal if they were preciously precise | 19:06 |
| jeblair | good, so nothing new we should consider when moving openstack projects | 19:06 |
| fungi | nothing identified at this point, no | 19:06 |
| jeblair | my... prrrrrrecious... | 19:06 |
| fungi | thanks, gollum | 19:06 |
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| fungi | rhel6 | 19:06 |
| fungi | review needed a rebase after the oslo.config rename | 19:07 |
| fungi | it should be fine at this point, and adds a non-voting shadow for all py26 unit tests on rhel6 slaves | 19:07 |
| fungi | we have 8 slaves on dprince's account, and he's given some of us his account credentials to do out-of-band things with them as needed | 19:08 |
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| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/24364 | 19:08 |
| jeblair | fungi: creds in password file? | 19:08 |
| fungi | jeblair: no, but i'll add them this afternoon | 19:09 |
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| fungi | wasn't sure if that was appropriate, but i suppose it's the best option | 19:09 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, i think so. | 19:09 |
| jeblair | fungi: it's a project resource more or less like the others, for the time being at least | 19:10 |
| fungi | works for me then | 19:10 |
| jeblair | fungi: did you create a reviewday user? | 19:10 |
| fungi | yep, all set up, stuff that needs to be is added to hiera as well | 19:10 |
| fungi | i think pleia2's stuff is very close to ready for merging | 19:11 |
| jeblair | fungi: cool. maybe leave a note to that effect on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/21158/ | 19:11 |
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| fungi | i did, but that was several patchsets ago now | 19:11 |
| fungi | i'll restate it | 19:11 |
| jeblair | oh, sorry, i see it now | 19:11 |
| mordred | o/ | 19:11 |
| jeblair | i searched for user. not account. :) | 19:11 |
| mordred | (landed) | 19:11 |
| fungi | just plane mordred again! | 19:12 |
| jeblair | mordred: congrats! | 19:12 |
| fungi | oh, no longer plane mordred | 19:12 |
| mordred | whee! | 19:12 |
| jeblair | just plain mordred now | 19:12 |
| mordred | :) | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | that's all really for reviewday (don't need to revisit later in the meeting) | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | and the last thing is: we renamed oslo-config | 19:12 |
| jeblair | oslo.config seems to be working so far | 19:12 |
| fungi | and as of yet, no new complaints | 19:12 |
| jeblair | it's our first repo with a dot. | 19:13 |
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| jeblair | the pypi (or "cheese shop") page has openstackci as a maintainer | 19:13 |
| jeblair | everyone at pycon was calling it the cheese shop because saying 'pypi' sounds like 'pypy' which is a different thing. | 19:14 |
| fungi | and some very runny gouda | 19:14 |
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| anteaya | I thought because there was none | 19:14 |
| anteaya | a cheese shop without any cheese | 19:14 |
| fungi | you can't actually tell the customer you have no cheese, anteaya | 19:15 |
| jeblair | #topic gerrit/lp groups | 19:15 |
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| anteaya | but apparently you can waste their time | 19:15 |
| jeblair | erm, it looks like we were all too busy to actually do that this past week | 19:15 |
| mordred | heh | 19:15 |
| fungi | yeah, other than i created several new gerrit groups :/ | 19:15 |
| jeblair | #action someone rename -drivers in gerrit to -milestone, and create -ptl groups and give them tag access | 19:15 |
| jeblair | that's what we decided to do last meeting; hopefully one of us can pick that up soon | 19:16 |
| jeblair | #topic jenkins job logs | 19:16 |
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| jeblair | fungi: ? | 19:16 |
| fungi | they are many | 19:16 |
| fungi | static.o.o filled up again on sunday | 19:17 |
| fungi | we've done some dances to free up a few more days of runtime on it | 19:17 |
| fungi | compressing subunit tempfiles, removing pre-folsom-release-day job logs | 19:17 |
| fungi | tried to resize the server last night as a short-term bandaid | 19:18 |
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| fungi | it's still on "step 1" right now and i can't cancel it, so presumably i should open a ticket | 19:18 |
| fungi | we've got a replacement built in rackspace nova with a block volume added | 19:18 |
| jeblair | so it sounds like it's time to start removing old logs; do we want a rolling 6 month window, rolling 12 month, or batch delete after release? | 19:19 |
| fungi | data's rsync'd from the old server, so we're going to refresh that this evening and try to move after a little validation of the content/vhosts | 19:19 |
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| annegentle | fungi: just a thought, can we make the doc gate jobs more specific to only build when files for that doc are updated? | 19:19 |
| jeblair | (i'm thinking rolling 6 month) | 19:19 |
| annegentle | (to try to alleviate filling up static) | 19:19 |
| fungi | annegentle: there is a new feature for zuul to do that i think... jeblair? | 19:19 |
| jeblair | annegentle: i just added a feature to zuul that would let us do that; i worry a little bit about that being fragile... | 19:20 |
| annegentle | fungi: ah ok | 19:20 |
| jeblair | as in, we have to specify in the zuul config which files it should run on | 19:20 |
| jeblair | so if anything changes in the repo, the zuul config would need to be updated to match | 19:20 |
| jeblair | but if it stays pretty static (ie, we know we'll only care about "docs/*"), that's an option | 19:21 |
| jeblair | (and would mean running fewer needless jobs which is nice for jenkins) | 19:21 |
| annegentle | jeblair: I think it makes sense for docs | 19:21 |
| jeblair | annegentle: ok, let's give it a try | 19:22 |
| jeblair | also, to be clear, i mean we're solving the space issue the right way which is to get more space | 19:22 |
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| jeblair | so we don't need to scrimp too much; i think annegentle's idea is just good in principle. :) | 19:22 |
| fungi | yes, and the new server with availability of separate block storage makes this as scalable as we could possibly need for the near future | 19:22 |
| annegentle | jeblair: there will be a copy of all docs to start with, I suppose, but the archiving of old doc builds on drafts is unnecessary once the patch is reviewed | 19:23 |
| annegentle | jeblair: and then only building when a patch indicates the build needs refreshed makes sense too | 19:23 |
| jeblair | annegentle: double +1 | 19:23 |
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| fungi | to simplify retention there, maybe we still use a rolling window for those but at 30 days instead of 180? | 19:24 |
| jeblair | well... | 19:24 |
| jeblair | let's just use 180 across the board | 19:24 |
| fungi | that's certainly simpler still | 19:24 |
| jeblair | it's not unheard of for a patch to take 30 days to merge. :) | 19:24 |
| fungi | agreed. just trying to avoid "identify checks corresponding to merged changes and purge" logic | 19:25 |
| jeblair | but let's do rememebr to expire the docs draft too. | 19:25 |
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| fungi | i will definitely rememebr | 19:26 |
| jeblair | #topic grenade | 19:26 |
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| jeblair | there's a non-voting grenade job, but it's failing | 19:26 |
| fungi | it's currently going "boom" | 19:26 |
| jeblair | we should probably point dtroyer at it so he can take a look | 19:27 |
| jeblair | #link https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/All/job/dev-gate-grenade-devstack-vm/ | 19:27 |
| jeblair | #topic gearman | 19:27 |
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| jeblair | zaro, fungi: you're testing something, yah? | 19:27 |
| fungi | zaro's the one testing. i'm just mashing buttons for him | 19:28 |
| zaro | kinda. testing the gearman plugin | 19:28 |
| mordred | w00t | 19:28 |
| zaro | i believe it's pretty much complete. i mean all the features are there. | 19:28 |
| jeblair | awesome! so i think that means we're waiting on krow for the queue change in gearmand | 19:29 |
| zaro | i think only thing that doesn't work is updating when executors change. | 19:29 |
| zaro | yes. that too. | 19:29 |
| jeblair | zaro: ok, that's not something we do regularly, so we don't have to wait on the executors thing getting fixed | 19:29 |
| zaro | i don't think he's fixed the problem he had.. CI wasn't happy with him. | 19:29 |
| jeblair | zaro: did you have a puppet patch to install gearman? | 19:30 |
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| jeblair | i think that would be the next thing on our side | 19:30 |
| jeblair | i think we can run it on the zuul server | 19:30 |
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| zaro | i thought we install plugin manually? | 19:30 |
| jeblair | sorry, gearmand | 19:30 |
| zaro | ohh yes. there's already one on puppet forge. | 19:30 |
| zaro | i'll figure out how to use it so we can install one for ourselves. | 19:31 |
| fungi | so we'll just need a patch to our openstack-infra/config repo to consume and configure that | 19:31 |
| mordred | do we have security thoughts for that? ssl tunnel? openvpn? | 19:31 |
| zaro | i'm not sure about naming the server though. | 19:31 |
| jeblair | #action zaro write puppet to run gearmand on zuul.o.o | 19:31 |
| jeblair | zaro: i think we can just colocate it on the server where we run zuul | 19:32 |
| jeblair | mordred: we can use iptables for now | 19:32 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:32 |
| mordred | jeblair: *facepalm* of course. | 19:32 |
| zaro | cool! | 19:32 |
| jeblair | mordred: that will at least scale up to a handful of jenkins masters | 19:32 |
| fungi | it's tcp so unless we're worried about someone in control of the routers between zuul and jenkins... | 19:32 |
| zaro | any port you prefer? | 19:32 |
| jeblair | mordred: just not the 'no jenkins slaves, only masters' topology | 19:32 |
| jeblair | fungi: not particularly | 19:33 |
| fungi | thought not | 19:33 |
| jeblair | zaro: i think there's an iana port for gearman now | 19:33 |
| zaro | jeblair: sorry, iana? | 19:33 |
| jeblair | (instead of using the afs3 callback port!) | 19:33 |
| fungi | internet assigned names/numbers authority | 19:33 |
| jeblair | 4730 | 19:34 |
| jeblair | #link http://gearman.org/protocol | 19:34 |
| zaro | cool!] | 19:34 |
| fungi | #link http://www.iana.org/ | 19:34 |
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| fungi | (for the curious) | 19:34 |
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| jeblair | #topic pypi mirror/requirements | 19:35 |
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| jeblair | i think that's really close | 19:35 |
| fungi | i'm excited | 19:35 |
| jeblair | the new mirror script is running, though outputting to a subdir of the current mirror | 19:35 |
| jeblair | (so we're not using it for builds quite yet) | 19:36 |
| jeblair | i've done a hacky thing by installing a python2.6-only dep into the mirror manually | 19:36 |
| jeblair | but mordred and i were talking about one more revision to the design: | 19:36 |
| jeblair | which is to put the mirror into swift | 19:36 |
| mordred | yup. I believe it will work | 19:36 |
| mordred | although obvs. needs some testing :) | 19:37 |
| jeblair | that _should_ work because we can use the cdn to generate index pages for us | 19:37 |
| jeblair | and we only need one cname added for the mirror | 19:37 |
| mordred | yes. and we don't need the dir structure we use right now | 19:37 |
| mordred | we can put all th efiles in one dir in swfit and use a single index | 19:37 |
| jeblair | so then we can run the mirror build on multiple platforms and have them all upload to swift easily | 19:38 |
| jeblair | and that should get us the python2.6-only packages | 19:38 |
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| fungi | on a related note, we probably ought to scour the slaves looking for other hung puppet processes again, based on the couple we hit in the last 24 hours missing the new mirror-using wrapper scripts | 19:38 |
| jeblair | so i think the plan is: test more things to make sure the new mirror is okay, when it is, switch the builders to using it | 19:39 |
| fungi | i'll run a loop over them and check here in a bit in case there are others needing restarts | 19:39 |
| jeblair | then immediately start work on the swift version of the mirror before the 2.6 problem bites us | 19:39 |
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| jeblair | #topic baremetal testing | 19:40 |
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| jeblair | pleia2: are you getting your questions answered? | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | so echohead has been working on the devstack replacement for the baremetal testing here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24273/ | 19:40 |
| mordred | jeblair: re: above mirror stuff real quick ... | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | it's a lot, but I'm tagging along and working my way through devstack-gate scripts :) | 19:41 |
| anteaya | pleia2: go you! | 19:41 |
| mordred | I'd like to inject that after swift-mirror I intend to invesitgate our possible use of hte new wheel format for extra fast goodness | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | no active questions right at this moment, but I'll be checking in with devananda regularly as needed | 19:41 |
| mordred | pleia2: awesome | 19:42 |
| jeblair | mordred: oh, yes, and since wheel may contain arch-specific files, we should be prepared for that by having multiple mirror builders | 19:42 |
| jeblair | pleia2: that is a lot of files. | 19:42 |
| pleia2 | oh, and speaking of d-g, I updated the docs a bit too so they're less wall-of-text: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24727/ | 19:42 |
| pleia2 | jeblair: heh, yeah, it's adding the new thing to their image creation script | 19:43 |
| pleia2 | which will have to be called by d-g instead of deploying devstack | 19:43 |
| jeblair | pleia2: thanks for that! | 19:43 |
| jeblair | #topic releasing git-review | 19:44 |
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| fungi | we should, i think | 19:44 |
| mordred | yeah. I think it's about that time | 19:44 |
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| mordred | fungi: is there anything specific I can do to help you with the testing? | 19:44 |
| fungi | there's a lot of bug fixes, error message clarifications, and some new features | 19:44 |
| fungi | mordred: it's been getting tested all along at this point | 19:45 |
| mordred | fungi: k. cool. | 19:45 |
| fungi | though i still intend to write up a real non-network-dependent test harness for it | 19:45 |
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| mordred | fungi: can we perhaps land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20452/ before we release? | 19:45 |
| fungi | i have a model for how it'll work, just need to do it | 19:45 |
| mordred | fungi: (I'll go fix/finish it) | 19:45 |
| fungi | mordred: yes, please | 19:45 |
| fungi | was wanting you to at least do whatever you wanted to do with that after saper added his input | 19:46 |
| fungi | since he had more or less refactored it down into more exception handling, which clarkb had some design concerns over | 19:47 |
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| jeblair | #topic open discussion | 19:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:48 | |
| mordred | kk | 19:48 |
| fungi | for a longer than usual agenda, we closed the list out quickly | 19:48 |
| fungi | ttx: any infra stuff irking you this week? | 19:49 |
| jeblair | well, 'releasing git-review' didn't turn out to be very contentious. :) | 19:49 |
| fungi | heh | 19:49 |
| ttx | fungi: nope | 19:49 |
| ttx | fungi: RC time is actually a bit less critical than feature freeze time | 19:50 |
| jeblair | of course release-week is typically when jenkins security updates come out. | 19:50 |
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| zaro | anybody need my help with anything? i'm just waiting on code reviews and i don't think the gearman install to zuul.o.o will take very long. | 19:50 |
| ttx | Ah! i can't wait for that to happen. | 19:51 |
| * ttx will be back in 70min for the release meeting | 19:51 | |
| fungi | zaro: i'm doing my best to review your outstanding changes, though java is not my strong suit | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | now that reviewday is pretty much done (we'll see in the next hour :)) I could also use a break from learning about d-g and baremetal, so feel free to ping me as needed for tasks | 19:51 |
| zaro | fungi: thanks. | 19:52 |
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| fungi | hopefully soon we'll get that caught up to the version you're testing on jenkins-dev | 19:52 |
| zaro | fungi: if nothing else. i'll spend some more time adding automated tests to plugin. | 19:53 |
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| jeblair | going once... | 19:54 |
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| jeblair | thanks everyone! | 19:54 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 19:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 19:54:44 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-19-19.04.html | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-19-19.04.txt | 19:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-19-19.04.log.html | 19:54 |
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| notmyname | ttx: I've got a conflicting appointment during the meeting today. can I go right after general announcements, please? | 20:41 |
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| ttx | notmyname: sure | 20:47 |
| notmyname | thanks | 20:48 |
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| ttx | o/ | 21:00 |
| danwent | o/ | 21:00 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: hey hey | 21:00 |
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| ttx | heckj/dolphm, notmyname, jgriffith, vishy/russellb, gabrielhurley, danwent/markmcclain: around ? | 21:00 |
| ttx | markmc: o/ | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 21:01 |
| russellb | hi | 21:01 |
| markmc | hey | 21:01 |
| gabrielhurley | \o | 21:01 |
| danwent | o/ | 21:01 |
| notmyname | here | 21:01 |
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| markwash | o/ | 21:01 |
| dolphm | o/ | 21:01 |
| ttx | ok let's start | 21:02 |
| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 19 21:02:09 2013 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:02 | |
| heckj | o/ | 21:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:02 |
| ttx | Agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | Today we'll look into progress towards RC production, which is summarized in a graph at: | 21:02 |
| ttx | #link http://status.openstack.org/release/rc/ | 21:02 |
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| ttx | The goal being to publish at least RC1 for every project this week | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic General announcements | 21:03 |
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| ttx | Design summit session planning is in full swing at: | 21:03 |
| ttx | #link http://summit.openstack.org/ | 21:03 |
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| ttx | I propose to close proposals on March 31, so that we can switch to scheduling | 21:03 |
| vishy | o/ | 21:03 |
| ttx | we'd keep the possibility to add sessions after that date... just encouraging people to submit before then | 21:04 |
| ttx | Thoughts ? | 21:04 |
| danwent | ttx: as long as PTL can add sessions later if deemed important, i think that's fine | 21:04 |
| gabrielhurley | worksforme | 21:04 |
| dolphm | +1 | 21:04 |
| ttx | #action ttx to communicate the soft March 31 deadline | 21:04 |
| ttx | markmc, mordred, annegentle, sdague/davidkranz/jaypipes: Updates from Stable/CI/QA/Docs teams ? | 21:05 |
| markmc | we've a lot of talks proposed | 21:05 |
| markmc | more than usual? | 21:05 |
| annegentle | o/ | 21:05 |
| sdague | ttx: we're going to cut stable tempest on thursday | 21:05 |
| ttx | markmc: we have more slots than usual too | 21:05 |
| ttx | sdague: ok | 21:05 |
| annegentle | We've got more than 50 doc bugs, please write and review docs with confirmed bugs on https://launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+milestone/grizzly first. | 21:05 |
| ttx | #info QA team to cut stable tempest on thursday | 21:06 |
| jgriffith | o\ | 21:06 |
| annegentle | #info Doc team seeking doc bug squashers | 21:06 |
| annegentle | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+milestone/grizzly | 21:06 |
| ttx | annegentle: I hope to see some focus shift on docs and release notes after the first wave of RC | 21:06 |
| annegentle | ttx: that would be fabulous | 21:06 |
| ttx | that's /also/ part of a successful release | 21:07 |
| markmc | Oh, on stable - people should use the grizzly-stable-potential tag | 21:07 |
| markmc | #info tag your "not rc blocker, but yet important" bugs with grizzly-stable-potential | 21:07 |
| markmc | #info tag your "not rc blocker, but yet important" bugs with grizzly-backport-potential | 21:07 |
| ttx | eh | 21:07 |
| ttx | anything else before we dive into project specifics ? | 21:07 |
| heckj | markmc, ttx: are those tags documented anywhere? | 21:08 |
| markmc | heckj, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StableBranch | 21:08 |
| heckj | (i.e. where do we go to look for tags that we should be using?) | 21:08 |
| markmc | heckj, for folsom | 21:08 |
| heckj | cool, thank | 21:08 |
| markwash | markmc: did you mean different "" strings for those two different tags? | 21:08 |
| ttx | also https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTags, though wiki transition ate it | 21:08 |
| markmc | markwash, it's grizzly-backport-potential | 21:08 |
| ttx | #action ttx to fix https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTags | 21:09 |
| russellb | we've got a number tagged as grizzly-rc-potential, guess we should just retag them after | 21:09 |
| markmc | russellb, yeah | 21:09 |
| ttx | after the first RC yes | 21:09 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:09 |
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| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:09 |
| notmyname | hi | 21:09 |
| ttx | Grizzly milestone-proposed branch was cut, ready to tag RC1 | 21:09 |
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| ttx | notmyname: Could you update blueprint status on https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.0-rc1 ? | 21:09 |
| notmyname | yay. I'll be finishing up the LP updates this afternoon | 21:09 |
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| ttx | From the changelog I couldn't tell if dedicated-replication-network and multi-region are actually completed | 21:09 |
| notmyname | no, it didn't for the rc cut | 21:10 |
| ttx | ok, then I can defer them and just cut RC1 | 21:10 |
| ttx | notmyname: works for you ? | 21:10 |
| notmyname | we're having our swift meeting tomorrow and we'll discuss any backports | 21:10 |
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| notmyname | ttx: I'll update LP this afternoon | 21:10 |
| ttx | notmyname: OK, I will hold then | 21:11 |
| notmyname | ttx: I'll send an email as soon as it's done | 21:11 |
| ttx | notmyname: will wait for your green flag before I do anything | 21:11 |
| notmyname | otherwise, QA is progressing. I expect some backports, but we don't know what those are yet | 21:11 |
| ttx | Anything more on Swift ? | 21:12 |
| notmyname | first meeting since US time change is tomorrow. 1900UTC | 21:12 |
| notmyname | that's all from me | 21:12 |
| ttx | notmyname: thx | 21:13 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo status | 21:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Oslo status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:13 | |
| ttx | markmc: o/ | 21:13 |
| ttx | Grizzly branch was cut for Oslo | 21:13 |
| markmc | yep | 21:13 |
| ttx | The only thing I see in the pipe that would affect grizzly release is: | 21:13 |
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| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24583/ | 21:13 |
| ttx | derived from (previously Nova-targeted) bug 1155347 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1155347 in oslo "nova-manage --nodebug doesn't work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155347 | 21:13 |
| markmc | yep, I should review that right now | 21:13 |
| markmc | not a huge issue, I expect | 21:13 |
| markmc | oh, it's marked High | 21:14 |
| russellb | was marked critical at one point, heh | 21:14 |
| markmc | I'd be kinda surprised if anyone actually used --nodebug | 21:14 |
| ttx | markmc: and I downgraded that from "Critical" | 21:14 |
| markmc | wow | 21:14 |
| markmc | I'll review it now | 21:14 |
| markmc | worth a whole release just for that? | 21:14 |
| markmc | I guess so | 21:14 |
| markmc | don't think there's much else going on | 21:15 |
| ttx | I'll have a look at it again for priority, but it seemed to be quite upsetting | 21:15 |
| markmc | prodded some people to submit summit sessions | 21:15 |
| ttx | How is planning for the Oslo topic at the Design Summit going so far ? | 21:15 |
| markmc | I think the number of slots we have is about right | 21:15 |
| ttx | ok | 21:16 |
| markmc | but would definitely welcome more proposals | 21:16 |
| ttx | Anything else on the oslo topic ? | 21:16 |
| markmc | no, don't think so | 21:16 |
| ttx | my "deadline" email should trigger new ones | 21:16 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:16 | |
| markmc | yeah, I hadn't realised the deadline was so far out | 21:16 |
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| markmc | thanks | 21:16 |
| ttx | heckj/dolphm: o/ | 21:17 |
| dolphm | o/ | 21:17 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:17 |
| ttx | 3 bugs left on the RC list | 21:17 |
| ttx | bug 1143998 and bug 1130236 still seem to need more work | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1143998 in keystone "nova-api crash - keystone.middleware.auth_token broken" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1143998 | 21:17 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1130236 in keystone "Domains are not validated on authentication" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1130236 | 21:17 |
| ttx | dolphm: You mentioned a late feature earlier ? | 21:17 |
| dolphm | i believe bug 1130236 might be ready | 21:17 |
| dolphm | ttx: yes, let me link.. | 21:18 |
| dolphm | #liink https://review.openstack.org/#/c/22624/ | 21:18 |
| dolphm | this work has been tracked as a bug since december | 21:18 |
| dolphm | and it basically blurs the line between bug and feature, so i wanted to double check before merging to grizzly | 21:19 |
| dolphm | without the patch, we don't have ldap support for identity api v3 at all | 21:19 |
| ttx | so it's a gap in a feature we ship ? | 21:19 |
| dolphm | yes; we have sql (and kvs) driver support today, this is mostly a copy/paste to the ldap driver | 21:20 |
| dolphm | it's been pretty heavily discussed/reviewed/tested by Sahdev Zala, Adam Young, Brad Topol, Henry Nash, Brant Knudson & Ryan Lane | 21:20 |
| dolphm | i'd definitely like to see it merge for RC1 | 21:20 |
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| ttx | hmm, there is some doc impact as well -- new options | 21:20 |
| dolphm | ttx: yes, definitely | 21:21 |
| annegentle | ttx: they've had some doc about ldap previously, dolph do you think you'd be able to update? | 21:21 |
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| dolphm | annegentle: i can help make sure that happens :) | 21:21 |
| ttx | dolphm: I guess that's better to have it in rather than out | 21:22 |
| ttx | and it's reasonably self-contained... | 21:22 |
| annegentle | dolphm: it'll mean updating in openstack-manuals too | 21:22 |
| annegentle | dolphm: since those are also already updated for grizzly | 21:22 |
| ttx | dolphm: you should go for it -- but we really need to speed up RC1 publication | 21:23 |
| ttx | to encourage further testing | 21:23 |
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| dolphm | ttx: we only have one patch that i don't think is ready to merge, and it's mine :) | 21:23 |
| dolphm | i pinged the mailing list yesterday about continued support for keystone.middleware.auth_token; i'm going working on ensuring we maintain that support | 21:24 |
| ttx | heckj/dolphm: what's your new ETA for RC1 ? | 21:24 |
| dolphm | s/going// | 21:24 |
| ttx | EOD tomorrow ? | 21:24 |
| dolphm | late today / tomorrow | 21:24 |
| ttx | OK, let's do this | 21:24 |
| ttx | #info Keystone RC1 updated ETA: EOD March 20 | 21:25 |
| ttx | 4 bugs on the grizzly-rc-potential list, not convinced we should block on them | 21:25 |
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| ttx | though any that make it will be welcome | 21:25 |
| ttx | Anything more about Keystone ? | 21:25 |
| dolphm | don't think so; thanks! | 21:26 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:26 | |
| ttx | bcwaldon/markwash: o/ | 21:26 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:26 |
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| markwash | o/ | 21:26 |
| ttx | bcwaldon/markwash: Looks like you're ready ? | 21:26 |
| bcwaldon | hello | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | yes, so rc1 is on its way out the door | 21:27 |
| ttx | As soon as https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24832/ hits the fan, should be able to cut grizzly branch and tag rc1 | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | thanks to everybody who helped fix bugs over the past few weeks! | 21:27 |
| comstud | you're welcome | 21:27 |
| bcwaldon | comstud: :/ | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | specifically not comstud | 21:28 |
| comstud | :) | 21:28 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: You have a number of targets of opportunity tagged grizzly-rc-potential... | 21:28 |
| ttx | all non-essential ? | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'll revisit those today, but I think we can untag them | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | they are definitely non-essential | 21:28 |
| bcwaldon | I'm not quite clear on the process moving forward, actually | 21:29 |
| bcwaldon | should we keep tagging things as rc-potential? | 21:29 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: i'll try to stay up and at least cut the milestone-proposed branch... so that if some unexpected issue comes up you can still push a backport | 21:29 |
| ttx | before I tag RC1 in my tomorrow morning | 21:29 |
| ttx | #info Glance RC1: by EOD March 19 | 21:30 |
| bcwaldon | great | 21:30 |
| markwash | great | 21:30 |
| ttx | Anything more on Glance ? | 21:30 |
| bcwaldon | not from us | 21:30 |
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| ttx | awesome, thx guys | 21:30 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quantum status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:31 | |
| ttx | danwent/markmcclain: hi! | 21:31 |
| danwent | hi | 21:31 |
| ttx | #info Quantum RC1 was published last week | 21:31 |
| ttx | We'll have an RC2, mostly due to bug 1154895 | 21:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1154895 in quantum "Quantum not logging anymore on stderr" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1154895 | 21:31 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-rc2 | 21:31 |
| danwent | yes, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1155121 | 21:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1155121 in quantum "DB tables not loaded with Cisco Plugin" [High,Fix committed] | 21:31 |
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| ttx | One bug left to fix + one to backport... | 21:31 |
| ttx | We can wait until the end of the week to cut rc2, though, just in case another blocker would be discovered ? | 21:32 |
| danwent | ttx: yes, that is the plan | 21:32 |
| danwent | this week we are focusing on getting docs tightened up | 21:32 |
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| ttx | Let's say EOD Thursday and I cut rc2 in Friday european morning ? | 21:32 |
| danwent | plan to have an RC2 with all key functionality documented by tuesday | 21:32 |
| danwent | we could cut it that early, if you wanted | 21:32 |
| danwent | but i was thinking a little more bake time wouldn't hurt | 21:33 |
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| ttx | danwent: ok. More like Monday ? | 21:33 |
| danwent | ok, i'm cool with that. | 21:33 |
| ttx | #info Quantum RC2 around Monday March 25 | 21:33 |
| danwent | its more that I want time to document everything, then run through with testing on packaged builds before officially declaring RC2 | 21:33 |
| danwent | but yeah, monday is reasonable | 21:34 |
| ttx | danwent: yes, trying to balance with the need to push an updated tarball for testers/packagers | 21:34 |
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| ttx | danwent: We'll adjust based on progress | 21:34 |
| ttx | Anything else on Quantum ? | 21:34 |
| danwent | nothing from me. markmcclain ? | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | nothing new from me | 21:35 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder status | 21:35 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: around ? | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | heyya | 21:35 |
| ttx | #info Cinder RC1 was cut last week | 21:35 |
| ttx | I think we need to do a RC2 over the rtslib thing | 21:35 |
| ttx | bug 1157091 | 21:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157091 in cinder "rtslib dependency (AGPL) should be made optional" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157091 | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | ttx: +1 | 21:36 |
| ttx | Seem to be some confusion on the right fix... so maybe this is not really FixCommitted yet | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | and the other 50 patches that have been submitted since | 21:36 |
| ttx | jgriffith: I'll open an RC2 page just after meeting so that we can approprietly target stuff to it | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | ttx: So I think in the next couple hours we'll have *a fix* | 21:36 |
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| jgriffith | eharney: is working on pulling out the bin | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | and putting it on pypi | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | ttx: that would be swell | 21:37 |
| ttx | Do you want to try to fix bug 1134768 as well, in rc2 ? | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1134768 in cinder "Secure delete not called for snapshots even when expected" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1134768 | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | ha!!! | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | we're better off with it not being called | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | but yes | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | I'll at least make it explicitly not called | 21:37 |
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| jgriffith | Unless we just no longer support Precise :) | 21:38 |
| ttx | jgriffith: we can keep the RC2 window open for a few days, and cut at the end of the week | 21:38 |
| ttx | how about until EOD Thursday | 21:38 |
| jgriffith | ttx: that sounds good, it's going to take me a day or two just to sort through the truly important stuff | 21:38 |
| ttx | (I kinda want to purge the AGPL thing in a RC deliverable asap) | 21:38 |
| jgriffith | that's perfect | 21:39 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: Yeah, I already merged the removal from pip-requires | 21:39 |
| ttx | even if that means doing an RC3 if something else comes up | 21:39 |
| ttx | #info Cinder RC2 by EOD March 21 | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'm happy to backport it to RC1 to be safe? | 21:39 |
| ttx | Anything more about Cinder ? | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | Nope, I think that's my excitement for the day | 21:40 |
| ttx | jgriffith: you'll have to backport all targeted fixes to milestone-proposed | 21:40 |
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| ttx | and we'll tag RC2 from there | 21:40 |
| ttx | will ping you once I get the RC2 page up | 21:40 |
| ttx | after meeting | 21:40 |
| jgriffith | alrighty | 21:40 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:40 |
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| ttx | vishy/russellb: o/ | 21:40 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:41 |
| russellb | ohai | 21:41 |
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| vishy | hi | 21:41 |
| ttx | 2 bugs left on the list, one of them without code proposed yet | 21:41 |
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| russellb | the In Progress bug had its patch merged | 21:41 |
| vishy | i'm about to propose a fix for the missing one | 21:41 |
| russellb | err, approved, should be merged soon | 21:41 |
| ttx | vishy: OK, means we could do RC1 today/tomorrow ? | 21:42 |
| ttx | I see 6 issues tagged grizzly-rc-potential, but nothing particularly worrisome to me | 21:42 |
| ttx | The process is: when you're done, just push a 2013.1 -> 2013.2 setup.py change to master, and ping me -- I will cut the grizzly branch from the previous commit | 21:43 |
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| ttx | vishy: still with us ? | 21:44 |
| vishy | yes | 21:44 |
| vishy | sounds good | 21:44 |
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| ttx | #info Nova RC1 early or late tomorrow | 21:44 |
| ttx | Any question on Nova ? | 21:44 |
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| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:45 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: o/ | 21:45 |
| gabrielhurley | hi | 21:45 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:45 |
| ttx | Looks like you're ready... Should we cut ? | 21:45 |
| gabrielhurley | just proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24844/ | 21:45 |
| gabrielhurley | to bump the version | 21:45 |
| ttx | OK, will cut the grizzly branch from the previous commit. | 21:46 |
| ttx | hopefully that will merge soon and I cut cut the branch before going to bed | 21:46 |
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| ttx | so that you still have the oppty to backport last-minute stuff, otherwise I'll just tag RC1 first thing tomorrow | 21:46 |
| gabrielhurley | I wanna make sure folks are good at the Horizon meeting right after this, then will merge | 21:46 |
| gabrielhurley | so within an hour I'll click the approve button on it | 21:47 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: hmm, maybe just approve it at the end of your day if you're still happy with it | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | k | 21:47 |
| ttx | and I'll pick it up tomorrow european morning | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | don't wanna keep you up | 21:47 |
| ttx | #info Horizon RC1 early tomorrow | 21:48 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: i'll take the merging of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24844/ as your RC1 signoff | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | sounds good | 21:48 |
| ttx | Anything more on Horizon ? | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | I'd like to remind folks that it's time to propose sessions for Horizon for the Design Summit. :-) | 21:48 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: yes, I was wondering if those 7 slots were not just too much space :P | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | no idea yet | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | again, will discuss at the horizon meeting after this | 21:49 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: there should at least be one session about the celio/heat integration | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | I'd anticipate 5-7 like last time | 21:49 |
| ttx | ceilo | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah, there will be | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll prpose it if they don't | 21:50 |
| sdake | i proposed one for heat | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | and I approved it ;-) | 21:50 |
| ttx | nice transition | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | there was a second one that I'd like to see for heat that was on the ML today | 21:50 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated-in-Grizzly/Integrated-in-Havana projects | 21:50 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:50 |
| ttx | sdake: o/ | 21:50 |
| ttx | Looks like you're ready for an RC1 ? | 21:50 |
| sdake | we are ready to roll | 21:50 |
| sdake | if you prefer I do a version update happy to do that now | 21:51 |
| sdake | can have merged in next 5 mins | 21:51 |
| ttx | sdake: same drill, push the setup.py version change and I'll cut from the previous commit | 21:51 |
| sdake | or if you prefer to take master, up to you | 21:51 |
| sdake | sounds good thanks | 21:51 |
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| ttx | just ping me when it's merged, just in case I'm still up | 21:51 |
| sdake | will do | 21:51 |
| ttx | otherwise will pick it up in ~10 hours | 21:52 |
| ttx | Anyone from the Ceilometer crew ? | 21:52 |
| ttx | jd__: ? | 21:52 |
| ttx | nijaba: ? | 21:52 |
| ttx | For reference: | 21:53 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 21:53 |
| ttx | 8 bugs still targeted, wondering if those are all release blockers ? | 21:53 |
| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 21:53 |
| ttx | Guess not | 21:54 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 21:54:38 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-19-21.02.html | 21:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-19-21.02.txt | 21:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-19-21.02.log.html | 21:54 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone! | 21:54 |
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| gabrielhurley | #startmeeting horizon | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 19 22:00:25 2013 UTC. The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 22:00 |
| gabrielhurley | hi everybody | 22:00 |
| stevebaker | hi | 22:00 |
| david-lyle | hi | 22:00 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic Overview | 22:01 |
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| gabrielhurley | So, we've got ourselves what looks like an RC! | 22:01 |
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| gabrielhurley | https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-rc1 | 22:01 |
| gabrielhurley | There are a couple bugs I'd like to point out in the bugs part of this meeting, but none that I consider blockers at this stage | 22:01 |
| ttrifonov | aloha | 22:01 |
| vkmc | Hey all o/ | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | I also went in and added release notes and translations this morning | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | the review to bump the version (and signal the cut of the RC) is in gerrit currently. | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | unless we identify something that should be a blocker in this meeting I'll merge that and trunk will be open for Havana | 22:02 |
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| gabrielhurley | any fixes after that have to be explicitly ported to the Grizzly release branch | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | so let's try not to have to do that ;-) | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | things are looking good though | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | Writing the release notes is always a great exercise and I feel really positive about what we've accomplsihed in Grizzly | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | it's a big stride forward in solving the most common UX complaints. it just feels better. plus the new features that made it in are very cool. | 22:04 |
| lcheng | hello | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | so great job to everyone. | 22:04 |
| jpich | Go team | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | any general/process questions before I move to bugs? | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | going once | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | going twice | 22:05 |
| kspear | well done all | 22:05 |
| lcheng | just a quick question, does the 'switchable' class supposed to work on workflow as well? | 22:05 |
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| gabrielhurley | lcheng: good question, and off the top of my head I'd say yes, but I've never tried it. | 22:06 |
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| gabrielhurley | #topic bugs and blueprints | 22:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs and blueprints (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:06 | |
| lcheng | I was trying this out, couldn't get it to work. Might log a bug for this one. ;-) | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | go for it | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | just so people are aware, this late breaking bug was pretty serious: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1155876 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1156198 | 22:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1155876 in horizon "Quota updating failed with Http 400 Error" [Critical,Fix committed] | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | it was caused by Nova failing to properly deprecate the inputs their API accepted | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | we got a fix in, but that was a close one | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | it's a reminder that we on the Horizon team have to be extra-diligent in being aware of other projects' changes | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | and if they do things which aren't backwards compatible we need to call them on it | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | looking forward to bugs that didn't make the RC blocker list | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | this one sucks, but isn't the end of the world and I even release noted it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1148372 | 22:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1148372 in horizon "edit flavor deletes the flavor if special char is used" [Medium,Confirmed] | 22:10 |
| gabrielhurley | we need to do more careful validation on the input there on our side before sending it to Nova | 22:10 |
| gabrielhurley | I don't see it as a blocker | 22:10 |
| gabrielhurley | if we roll an RC2 I might consider adding it in to be fixed | 22:10 |
| jpich | I'm wondering about https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1156817 and its impact on distros after seeing mrunge's comment (#3). Any thought? | 22:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1156817 in horizon "Regression due "rm invalid args when updating quotas with nova api "" [High,Fix committed] | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm not sold on that argument, for this reason: | 22:12 |
| gabrielhurley | the argument that Fedora 18 includes an older cinderclient is moot because it doesn't include this version of Horizon. If you're gonna run an updated package for horizon why can't you update your copy of cinderclient? | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | I don't like adding special-cased code paths for the clients in general. | 22:13 |
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| kspear | I agree. Fedora 19 is their target for Grizzly | 22:13 |
| kspear | There are also existing incompatibilities | 22:14 |
| kspear | the openstack_auth version for one | 22:14 |
| stevebaker | fwiw, heat assumes a recent cinderclient | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | If you wanna run latest, then run latest. Updating a package without updating its dependencies is a bad idea in general. | 22:14 |
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| jpich | That sounds like a fair point. I'm not super familiar with packaging but remember reading about the evils of pinning so it sounded worthwhile addressing that comment | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | the only problem with pinning for distros is the distro needs to have that version or later | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | I try to pin to wide swaths of versions where possible to avoid making it harder for people | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | OpenStack as a whole could adopt a policy of supporting X versions back in the clients, and then I'd feel bound to do something about it | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | but the clients are frustratingly wild-west style | 22:16 |
| gabrielhurley | so I don't like supporting incompatible versions of them | 22:16 |
| jpich | Cool, makes sense :) | 22:16 |
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| gabrielhurley | k | 22:17 |
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| gabrielhurley | that should probably be noted on the ticket | 22:17 |
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| gabrielhurley | anyhow, the other big bug area | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | there's a slew of Quantum-related bugs, but given how late those features landed it's an unaviodable consequence. A sampling here: | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1153525 | 22:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1153525 in horizon "Some Lbaas fields require ints but declared as CharFields" [Low,Confirmed] | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1151101 | 22:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1151101 in horizon "The displayed network, router, topology info of admin user is confusion" [Medium,Confirmed] | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1156433 | 22:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1156433 in horizon "network topology can not show up in some version of firefox browser" [Medium,Triaged] | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1146926 | 22:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1146926 in horizon "Cannot create a network topology other than very simple" [Medium,In progress] | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | I release noted some of those, and generally made it clear that these are late-breaking features and should be treated somewhat like a "beta" in Horizon. | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | If anyone wants to argue for blockers out of any of that, now's the time | 22:20 |
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| gabrielhurley | okay | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | those are the only bugs that really concerned me that I didn't mark as blockers for the RC | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | anybody got any others they're deeply worried about? | 22:21 |
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| gabrielhurley | great! | 22:23 |
| ttrifonov | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1154391 | 22:23 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1154391 in horizon "Cannot launch Dashboard due to Import error " [Medium,Confirmed] | 22:23 |
| ttrifonov | This is not a blocker | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | the PR to openstack_auth is merged, and I'm gonna cut a new release for it to PyPI today | 22:24 |
| ttrifonov | coool | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | that only affects people (devs) who had an old version of django installed but are running newer versions of the code | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | I have to take off in about 5 minutes, but before then I'll open it up for general discussion | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic open discussion | 22:24 |
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| kspear | one comment on the release notes | 22:25 |
| stevebaker | can we talk Heat integration? | 22:25 |
| kspear | the theme support bp became a no-op i think | 22:25 |
| kspear | the review was abandoned | 22:25 |
| gabrielhurley | kspear: I thought it got merged | 22:26 |
| gabrielhurley | stevebaker: is there something specific you want to talk about for it prior to the summit in a couple weeks where it can be discussed in depth? | 22:26 |
| stevebaker | I'm doing some development on the Heat UI at the moment. I won't be at Summit, and I hope to have something worth pushing well before that | 22:26 |
| gabrielhurley | stevebaker: gotcha. I haven't had time to focus on what's there so far so I may not be of immediate use. | 22:27 |
| stevebaker | assuming that fits with release/feature roadmap | 22:27 |
| kspear | gabrielhurley: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20804/ | 22:27 |
| gabrielhurley | oh yeah, absolutely | 22:27 |
| kspear | gabrielhurley: unless there was another review i missed? | 22:27 |
| gabrielhurley | kspear: the blueprint got marked implemented... https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/theme-support | 22:27 |
| gabrielhurley | now I'm not sure | 22:28 |
| gabrielhurley | looks like that was inappopriate | 22:28 |
| stevebaker | I'm paring back Dan's work to the bare essentials, I'll probably have a few newbie questions for #openstack-horizon | 22:28 |
| kspear | the conclusion was it was already possible to do via django | 22:28 |
| gabrielhurley | kspear: okay. that needs to be fixed in the release notes. I'll put up a review to axe it in a moment. | 22:28 |
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| kspear | gabrielhurley: great | 22:29 |
| gabrielhurley | stevebaker: sounds good. this meeting is a good time to ask questions in general. today it's just a lot of RC business and I have to take off ASAP | 22:29 |
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| stevebaker | ok | 22:29 |
| jpich | stevebaker: You're welcome to, the channel is quiet but there are a few of us keeping an eye on it and answering questions in there | 22:30 |
| stevebaker | when I've got something ready to review I'll push to gerrit, just to discover what you're expectations are for merging | 22:30 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm bad about it, sadly. I have too many chat windows open already :-( | 22:30 |
| stevebaker | jpich: cool, thanks | 22:30 |
| gabrielhurley | release notes fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24853/ | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | okay. I gotta go. | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm gonna close the meeting but feel free to keep talking | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | thanks everyone! | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | #endmeeting | 22:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 19 22:31:36 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-03-19-22.00.html | 22:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-03-19-22.00.txt | 22:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-03-19-22.00.log.html | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | Oh, and propose talks for the summit!!!! | 22:31 |
| david-lyle | is there a link to propose design summit topics? | 22:31 |
| jpich | http://summit.openstack.org/ | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | http://summit.openstack.org/ | 22:31 |
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| gabrielhurley | ttyl, folks. have a great week! | 22:32 |
| jpich | you too | 22:32 |
| kspear | thanks gabriel | 22:32 |
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| david-lyle | thanks, I couldn't find the link off any of the other sites | 22:32 |
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