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| danwent | hi folks | 21:00 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
| arosen | Hiya | 21:00 |
| zhuadl | hi | 21:00 |
| garyk | hi | 21:00 |
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| mnewby | hi | 21:00 |
| danwent | #startmeeting quantum | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 10 21:00:45 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'quantum' | 21:00 |
| nati_ueno | hi | 21:00 |
| danwent | #link agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 21:00 |
| danwent | amotoki and rkukura couldn't make it | 21:01 |
| danwent | #topic quantum documentation | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "quantum documentation (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:01 | |
| danwent | we made some very good progress on this last week, getting a few of the 'high' bugs merged, and a few more 'high' bugs into review | 21:01 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bugs?field.tag=quantum | 21:01 |
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| danwent | please give some review eyeballs to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17570/ | 21:02 |
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| danwent | mmm… yong not here today? | 21:02 |
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| danwent | ok, well, i had some questions for him, but will handle offline | 21:03 |
| danwent | several of the reviews in docs are his | 21:03 |
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| danwent | other than what's called out on the agenda page, are there other high priority doc issues? | 21:04 |
| salv-orlando | hi everyone. Sorry for being late. | 21:04 |
| danwent | another week of good focus on docs + reviews should put is in a better place. | 21:04 |
| danwent | i'm working through a few typos in the new examples that were merged last week, but other than that, they are a big improvement in my opinion. | 21:04 |
| danwent | #topic grizzly-2 | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "grizzly-2 (Meeting topic: quantum)" | 21:04 | |
| danwent | nati_ueno: https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:05 |
| danwent | whoops | 21:05 |
| danwent | #info https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:05 |
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| danwent | nati_ueno: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-gate | 21:05 |
| danwent | saw we got the patches discussed last week merged | 21:05 |
| danwent | what are outstanding blockers? would love to get this merged ASAP. | 21:05 |
| danwent | is it just working with CI team at this point? | 21:05 |
| garyk | dansmith: as far as i recall there were devstack volume issues unrelated to quantum patches | 21:06 |
| garyk | danwent: ^^ | 21:06 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: around? | 21:06 |
| danwent | garyk: is there a particular bug for that? | 21:07 |
| garyk | danwent: not sure. | 21:07 |
| danwent | garyk: ok. seems like everyone is taking a nap today :) | 21:08 |
| danwent | hopefully nati_ueno will show up later | 21:08 |
| garyk | danwent: i am half asleep too. sorry | 21:08 |
| danwent | markmcclain: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-db-upgrades | 21:08 |
| danwent | haha :) | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | sorry.. been it's been held up by an internal project | 21:08 |
| danwent | markmcclain: ok, do you have a new ETA? | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | mostly likely tomorrow.. I'm wrapping the internal as we speak | 21:09 |
| danwent | ok, before you go back to that project, one more question | 21:09 |
| garyk | root wrap? | 21:09 |
| danwent | i think we agreed to mark this as complete (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/metadata-overlapping-networks) | 21:09 |
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| danwent | but then file a separate BP for the non-routed case? | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | we did | 21:10 |
| danwent | I didn't see one, have you filed it? | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | I need to file the separate BP | 21:10 |
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| danwent | #todo markmcclain file separate BP for metadata on non-routed networks | 21:10 |
| danwent | (no worries, i forgot my major TODO for today as well :P) | 21:10 |
| danwent | i'm going to skip security groups for now, hoping nati_ueno comes back online... | 21:11 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: Hi | 21:11 |
| danwent | ah, there you are :) | 21:11 |
| danwent | ok, question from above was: what are next steps on gating? | 21:11 |
| danwent | garyk mentioned some volume issues that may be blockers | 21:11 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: I'm going to create same CI env in my lab | 21:11 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: Them I can figure out what's going on the CI | 21:11 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: is this the sudo issues? | 21:12 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: It looks two issue. One is sudo. But other's are unknown | 21:12 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: floating ip works but ping to local ip is not working | 21:12 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: ok, please update the whiteboard for this issue, as its hard to track with so many different reviews :) | 21:12 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: This is very confusing.. | 21:12 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: I got it. | 21:13 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: second BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-security-groups-iptables | 21:13 |
| danwent | amotoki sent me a note saying that we were close | 21:13 |
| danwent | two concerns from yong, one on style, and one on documenting internal RPC? | 21:13 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: I got review comment from Yong, and I'm working on that | 21:13 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: ok. | 21:14 |
| danwent | is ETA still this week? | 21:14 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: I got +1 from Aaron, Gary, Akihiro, so I hope it will be merged in this week | 21:14 |
| garyk | danwent: it is a huge patch and there is some very nice progress. just a few minor issues to resolve | 21:14 |
| danwent | yup, seems like it, just wanted to confirm :) | 21:14 |
| danwent | garyk: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/vif-plugging-improvements | 21:14 |
| danwent | we already chatted about this via email | 21:15 |
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| garyk | danwent: yes, i have all of the patches in review hopefully it will not take forever... | 21:15 |
| danwent | i'll be one reviewer on this, but we'll have to work on getting some nova reviewers as well, once we iron out internal concerns | 21:15 |
| garyk | danwent: thanks! that will be great | 21:15 |
| danwent | tr3buchet would be a good person to contact as a reviewer | 21:16 |
| garyk | ok, will do | 21:16 |
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| danwent | enikanorov: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/lbaas-restapi-tenant | 21:16 |
| tr3buchet | danwent: garyk: looking | 21:16 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: i believe you sent an email to the ML to try to wrap up discussion on this? | 21:16 |
| salv-orlando | yes. I think it's almost wrapped up. I asked some clarifications, and I had the | 21:17 |
| garyk | tr3buchet: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/vif-plugging-improvements,n,z | 21:17 |
| salv-orlando | them. I think there was agree to change the reference in the pool from a network to a subnet | 21:17 |
| salv-orlando | apart from that I am now happy to approve the change on the API, plus the other patch from Oleg for managing list attributes as collections | 21:18 |
| danwent | ok. this branch has been sitting in review for a while, and I think some of the new load-balancing folks are probably getting a bit frustrated, so it would be great to see this merge soon. | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | I love frustrating people :) | 21:19 |
| danwent | :) | 21:19 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/lbaas-plugin-api-crud | 21:19 |
| danwent | is leon or sachin here? | 21:19 |
| danwent | this patch has had lots of feedback, needs a developer refresh | 21:19 |
| salv-orlando | I think Sachin is in the troposphere now | 21:19 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: ok, then i can hold your responsible? :P | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | The patch is on the right track, but some work is still needed there | 21:20 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: do you know if leon is working on redoing the patch? | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | It should be clear that this patch is for doing DB support for the API. | 21:20 |
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| salv-orlando | danwent: that's his commitment. | 21:20 |
| danwent | #TODO danwent to bug leon about revising lbaas crud patch | 21:21 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-service-type | 21:21 |
| danwent | looks like a review got posted on this | 21:21 |
| danwent | great | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | On the previous patch | 21:21 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: go ahead | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | I just want to point out that things such as operational state management, dispatching calls to drivers, and device management are definitely out of scope | 21:22 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: yes, this is just DB for API operations | 21:22 |
| danwent | agreed | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | The scope of that blueprint IMHO is provide DB suppert for the tenant API. All the above mentioned thing should be in derived class which will be the actual plugin | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | Ok now to the service type definition | 21:22 |
| danwent | namely, most of this DB code should be plugin-agnostic | 21:22 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: yes | 21:22 |
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| markmcclain | danwent: have another thing on that patch.Leon needs to make sure the files are organized according to the etherpad | 21:22 |
| danwent | markmcclain: ok, is that already filed as a comment on the review? | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. but seemed to be overlooked | 21:23 |
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| danwent | markmcclain: ok, i will point it out to him specifically | 21:24 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: service-type patch | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | I published the specification (you can see it from the blueprint page). And also some code. The code is in draft at the moment. This is because unit tests started failing after a rebase, and I did not have time to address this issue (I'm not the only one working on internal project apparently :) ) | 21:24 |
| danwent | ok. do we have two core reviewers already? | 21:24 |
| danwent | i didn't see them on the review | 21:25 |
| salv-orlando | I also want to add some APIs for the 'dummy plugin' in order to provide PoC code and unit tests showing how the service type gets wired to the API. | 21:25 |
| garyk | danwent: i took a look and would be happy to chip in | 21:25 |
| salv-orlando | Garyk gave some advice already | 21:25 |
| danwent | ah, looks like garyk just reviewed | 21:25 |
| danwent | or rather, last night :) | 21:25 |
| salv-orlando | Probably for garyk it was today over lunch :) | 21:25 |
| danwent | ok, will be second core, as I'd like to get up to speed on this as well. | 21:25 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: yes, in his timezone :) | 21:26 |
| salv-orlando | enikanorov and obondarev might be interested too, even if they're not core they're very relevant to this patch | 21:26 |
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| danwent | salv-orlando: yup, looks like obondarev already has… additional reviews are great, just wanted to make sure we also had at least two cres | 21:26 |
| danwent | cores | 21:26 |
| danwent | and finally: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-multihost . | 21:27 |
| danwent | I dropped the ball on this one, as I was suppoed to send a note to the ML | 21:27 |
| danwent | #todo danwent send note to ML about multi-host | 21:27 |
| danwent | one other topic I wanted to discuss was quantum + horizon work | 21:27 |
| danwent | unfortunately, amotoki had to miss the meeting, so hopefully nati_ueno can answer all of my questions :) | 21:28 |
| danwent | there are a host of issues filed for horizon + quantum work | 21:28 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/improve-quantum-summary-table | 21:28 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-floating-ip | 21:28 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-l3-support | 21:28 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-network-topology | 21:28 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-security-group | 21:28 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/quantum-vnic-ordering | 21:28 |
| danwent | most are assigned to amotoki or nati_ueno | 21:28 |
| danwent | but I don't see priorities, or that they are assigned to a milestone | 21:29 |
| danwent | are these being discussed at a horizon meeting? or should we track them here? | 21:29 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: I'm going to work on that | 21:29 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: in G2 | 21:29 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: all of them? | 21:29 |
| nati_ueno | nati_ueno: an not all of then | 21:29 |
| nati_ueno | l3 and network-topology one | 21:30 |
| nati_ueno | I didn't attend horizon meeting yet, so I'm not sure about that | 21:30 |
| nati_ueno | I'll ping Akihiro after this meeting about this | 21:30 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: ok, can you work with Gabriel and akihiro to get them assigned to a milestone. | 21:31 |
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| nati_ueno | danwent: sure | 21:31 |
| danwent | and if some are no longer looking realistic, let us know, so we can try and get more people involved. | 21:31 |
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| danwent | ok, another outside project issue that I wanted to bring up. | 21:32 |
| danwent | mnewby: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12485/ looks like you've been making progress here? | 21:32 |
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| mnewby | danwent: It's ready for review now | 21:32 |
| danwent | is this now ready for open review again? | 21:32 |
| danwent | great | 21:32 |
| mnewby | danwent: the jenkins failure is not due to this change | 21:32 |
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| danwent | mnewby: ok, so is it the case that anyone with a devstack setup should be able to test out this tempest patch, or is there more infrastructure/setup required? | 21:33 |
| mnewby | danwent: as mentioned, there is an associated devstack change that makes tempest configuration easy | 21:33 |
| mnewby | danwent: sorry, as mentioned in the review log | 21:33 |
| mnewby | danwent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17776/ | 21:33 |
| danwent | mnewby: ah, ok, great | 21:33 |
| mnewby | danwent: not required, but makes configuration easier. | 21:34 |
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| danwent | ok, fantastic | 21:34 |
| mnewby | danwent: i've split the testing into connectivity with tenant network and connectivity with assigned floating ip | 21:34 |
| danwent | ok, any other g-2 items that people feel we need to discuss? | 21:34 |
| danwent | garyk: i saw a couple patches from you related to eventlet changes, thanks for handling those | 21:34 |
| garyk | :) | 21:35 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 21:35 |
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| danwent | just wanted to again highlight a few items listed on the agenda page for anyone looking for items to work on: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 21:35 |
| garyk | danwent: i think on thursday there is a bug triage day | 21:36 |
| danwent | garyk: ah, yes, should have had that in the announcements, i guess | 21:36 |
| danwent | we've actually being doing a pretty good job (relatively speaking, at least) of keeping our bug-list managable, so hopefully it should be too bad. | 21:36 |
| garyk | maybe if each person could take 1 bug... | 21:36 |
| danwent | for those new to bug triage, see: http://wiki.openstack.org/BugTriage | 21:37 |
| danwent | well, bug triage is technically about cleaning up the bug list, but if some bug fixing is mixed in, I won't complain :) | 21:37 |
| danwent | maybe after bug triage we come up with a list of open and unassigned bugs, and send it to quantum-core for volunteers? | 21:38 |
| danwent | actually, looking through the bug lists, we're in pretty good shape for triage, so it shouldn't take long at all. | 21:38 |
| danwent | Ok, other topics for open discussion? | 21:39 |
| danwent | akihiro sent out a an email about using underscores for commands with the CLI | 21:39 |
| danwent | or rather, for command options | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | I think we kept the underscore for compatibility in folsom | 21:40 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: but i think he's just talking about for new commands that are only being introduced in grizzly | 21:40 |
| danwent | in that case, i do not see a need to continue to add underscore support. | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | cool. But IMHO we need to address the "update" operations too | 21:41 |
| danwent | yong + markmcclain are our cli/client gurus though… so i'll let them chime in on the ML | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | they won't accept the dashes as every option is a value_spec to them. | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | For not being too technical options in update CLI commands are passed just as they are in the API. | 21:42 |
| danwent | salv-orlando: yeah, i agree. that is very confusing | 21:42 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: It drives my crazy. And I use the CLI every day :) | 21:42 |
| danwent | personally, i'd probably prefer a model that did not have the "direct pass through" at all | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | +1 | 21:43 |
| danwent | it seems like one of those "shortcuts" that ends up being so confusing it is not really a "shortcut" at all :) | 21:43 |
| garyk | +1 although it is very flexible | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | +8 rotated by 90 degrees | 21:43 |
| danwent | ok, does someone want to (a) file something on this and (b) discuss it with yong? :P | 21:43 |
| danwent | otherwise, i will :) | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | I'll care of filing | 21:44 |
| danwent | haha | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | I'll chat with Yong too | 21:44 |
| danwent | yeah, maybe just start an ML thread on it, as from the sound of it, others on the team would like to chime in. just wanted to make sure yong is included in the discussion, given his role on the CLI team, and the fact that he wasn't here today | 21:45 |
| danwent | ok, any other open discussion? | 21:46 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: I recall from fading summit memories you wanted to take a shot at this | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: you have a good memory :) | 21:46 |
| danwent | i thought markmcclain was focusing on python api for client | 21:46 |
| danwent | but perhaps both | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | python lib first.. cli 2nd | 21:46 |
| danwent | ok, any other open discussion? | 21:47 |
| avishayb | Hi, I am new to Quantum. I am about to finish my first contribution (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17450/) and looking for a task in the lbass domain. Is ti the right time / place? | 21:47 |
| danwent | sounds like people are a bit busy wrapping up internal projects before the holidays :) | 21:47 |
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| danwent | hi avishayb. nice to meet you. | 21:47 |
| danwent | the lbaas work is in a fair amount of flux, so i'm not aware of any good "first project" items in it as of now | 21:48 |
| danwent | but i'll keep a look out. | 21:48 |
| danwent | if others more involved in the lbaas stuff have ideas, let me know | 21:48 |
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| danwent | ok, if nothing else, thanks folks! | 21:48 |
| avishayb | OK | 21:49 |
| zyluo_ | bye | 21:49 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 21:49 |
| salv-orlando | bye, have a good one! | 21:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 10 21:49:06 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | bye | 21:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-12-10-21.00.html | 21:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-12-10-21.00.txt | 21:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-12-10-21.00.log.html | 21:49 |
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| nati_ueno | bye! | 21:49 |
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