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| mestery | markvoelker1: o/ | 20:59 |
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| nati_uen_ | Hi :) | 20:59 |
| danwent | haha | 20:59 |
| danwent | I was waiting for kyle or mark to say something, but I was in openstack-dev | 21:00 |
| mestery | danwent: Mark told me he may not make it, and to give him crap if he didn't. | 21:00 |
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| mestery | Looks like he made it via mobile perhaps | 21:00 |
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| mestery | :) | 21:00 |
| sthakkar | I see mark on from his android | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
| gongysh | hi | 21:00 |
| danwent | i had to re-opne my IRC client, and the order of the openstack-dev vs. openstack-meeting tabs got switch (i.e., a totaly calamity) | 21:00 |
| arosen | hiya | 21:00 |
| garyk | hi | 21:00 |
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| mestery | danwent: I hate it when that happens! :) | 21:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 21:00 |
| markvoelker1 | o/ | 21:01 |
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| danwent | #startmeeting quantum | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 19 21:01:07 2012 UTC. The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'quantum' | 21:01 |
| salv-orlando | hi! | 21:01 |
| danwent | #info agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings | 21:01 |
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| magana | hello all! | 21:01 |
| danwent | #info grizzly-1 branch date is end-of-work tomorrow | 21:01 |
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| danwent | so the only changes we'll make to G-1 past that point are "critical" bugs | 21:02 |
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| magana | do we have a list of them? | 21:02 |
| danwent | of course, this early in the cycle, there's no need to "cram" extra features into G-1, as the difference between being in G-1 and G-2 are not major | 21:02 |
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| danwent | so don't feel we need to get something merged if we don't feel like there was enough time to review… good reviews take priority | 21:03 |
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| danwent | magana: there are known outstanding at this point, but if they popped up in testing, then we would only merge a serious fix into the G-1 milestone proposed branch | 21:03 |
| danwent | #info current status of grizzly https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-1 | 21:03 |
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| danwent | so from a feature perspective, we should be focused on only those 4 features in terms of reviews. | 21:04 |
| danwent | let's go through them | 21:04 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-security-groups-iptables | 21:04 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16210/ | 21:04 |
| garyk | danwent: i have started to review that | 21:05 |
| nati_uen_ | I got review comment from garyk, akihiro, aaron | 21:05 |
| arosen | me too | 21:05 |
| nati_uen_ | I'll fix the comment in 5 hours | 21:05 |
| danwent | ok, looks like we're covered in terms of reviewers | 21:05 |
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| garyk | nati_uen_: take your time. i'll be in the office in another 8 or 9. | 21:05 |
| nati_uen_ | garyk: Thanks | 21:06 |
| danwent | Ok, I will need to know for sure about this by the main openstack meeting tomorrow | 21:06 |
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| danwent | so let's have people do one more round of reviews after nachi's next patchset, and then we'll need to figure out if we're just talking about consemtic changes needed, or anything structural | 21:06 |
| danwent | nati_ueno: can you ping me tomorrow morning (pacific time) about status and we'll decide to keep in G-1 or move to G-2? | 21:07 |
| nati_ueno | danwent: I got it. I'll mail you about the situation of nest round. | 21:07 |
| danwent | ok, next up: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/rpc-for-l3-agent | 21:07 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15619/ | 21:07 |
| gongysh | salvatore: I will have a look at the problem you mentioned. I hope it is true. | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | I hope it is not true actually | 21:07 |
| danwent | have the big picture design questions been figured out here? | 21:08 |
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| salv-orlando | I'd like to hear from markmcclain too. I'd say that there are aspect which can be improved, but overall the patch is by itself a good improvement | 21:08 |
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| danwent | markmcclain ? | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | so I think we can do other improvements incrementally | 21:08 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: I've gotten through part of it, just not all of it | 21:09 |
| danwent | again, I don't want to "ram" this in just b/c of G-1… if we feel like it needs more discussion, that is OK. | 21:09 |
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| danwent | Ok, markmcclain , do you anticipate finishing review by later today? | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | yes | 21:09 |
| danwent | i guess it already is later today in your neck of the woods :P | 21:09 |
| danwent | ok. I'l check the review later. | 21:10 |
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| gongysh | markmcclain: it is blocking other fetures, multi host , scheduler and multi instance. | 21:10 |
| markmcclain | right | 21:10 |
| danwent | gongysh: yes, but we need to make sure we're merging good designs as well | 21:10 |
| danwent | its a balance :) | 21:10 |
| gongysh | that are important to large scale deployment. | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | gongysh: indeed | 21:11 |
| gongysh | so take the time to review it. | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | that's why your patch is being granted extra care :) | 21:11 |
| gongysh | make it progress. | 21:11 |
| danwent | gongysh: please be polite :) | 21:11 |
| gongysh | dan: hi i am polite to all of u guys. :) | 21:12 |
| danwent | Ok, so I am going to plan on this going in tomorrow. If there are any serious red flags, please raise it on the main ML, as this has been in review for a while | 21:12 |
| danwent | ok, next up, markmcclain https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/metadata-overlapping-networks | 21:12 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16282/ | 21:13 |
| danwent | this relies on a nova patch as well | 21:13 |
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| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16281/ | 21:13 |
| garyk | danwent: markmcclain i ran into some issues here (with all 3 patches) | 21:14 |
| gongysh | markmcclain: I like this feature. | 21:14 |
| danwent | seems like there's no real action on the nova review from nova cores, so i'm guessing this as an entire feature-set will not arrive in G-1 | 21:14 |
| danwent | yes, i can't wait to have this :) | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. I'll to pester a few devs | 21:14 |
| garyk | markmcclain: is the nova side backward compatible? | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | *nova devs, but I think it will help to make sure we're +1 on it first | 21:15 |
| danwent | markmcclain: ok, let me know if I can help with that... | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | yes.. the nova changes are 100% backwards compatible | 21:15 |
| garyk | markmcclain: great. i think that if you state this in the commit message then it will certain help move it forward | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I'll update the commit message | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | garyk: I can't find your probs that you reported | 21:16 |
| garyk | markmcclain: thanks | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | can you resend them? | 21:16 |
| garyk | markmcclain: sure. | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | thanks | 21:16 |
| gongysh | markmcclain: I need a simple chart to show your idea of the BP. | 21:16 |
| danwent | markmcclain: as I mentioned in my review, I'd like to see at least a design sketch on LP on this, particular describing the two different flows (as I understand it). | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. working on those to make the review easier to understand | 21:17 |
| danwent | doesn't need to be a book, just the "big picture" to help reviewers have context, and to help people writing the docs understand what's going on. | 21:17 |
| gongysh | great minds think alike... | 21:17 |
| danwent | Ok, so i'm going to continue to work on this, but my guess is that this is less likely to be completely merged (quantum + nova) in G-1 | 21:18 |
| danwent | markmcclain: let's sync up before the main openstack meeting tomorrow | 21:18 |
| danwent | and see how things have progressed | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I'll ping you PST morning | 21:18 |
| danwent | thx | 21:18 |
| danwent | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-service-framework | 21:19 |
| salv-orlando | it's in a good shape | 21:19 |
| enikanorov_ | all comments've been resolved so far. I'm waiting for approval. | 21:19 |
| salv-orlando | I am giving it a last round of tests, then will +2 if nothing comes up (but nothing should) | 21:19 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15733/ | 21:19 |
| danwent | ok, will keep it targeted. if something pops up, please notify me, otherwise i'll assume it merges tomorrow. | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | I'm close to a +2 on it too | 21:20 |
| danwent | i see gongysh and garyk as other recent core revewers | 21:20 |
| magana | salv-orlando: let me review it as well no later that that 3:00pm PST | 21:20 |
| danwent | ok, markmcclain , i'll count on you as second core dev | 21:20 |
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| garyk | danwent: i had some minor nits. thay have been addressed | 21:21 |
| danwent | holy jesus there's been a lot of comments/updates on gerrit for that review :P | 21:21 |
| danwent | ok, so those are the outstanding features | 21:21 |
| enikanorov_ | yep | 21:21 |
| gongysh | danwent: my comments have be dealt with. | 21:21 |
| enikanorov_ | i'd prefer to recieve "nits" in a pack rather than 1 per update | 21:22 |
| gongysh | I will check if I can give +2 first. | 21:22 |
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| danwent | gongysh: ok, can you put a minus on it, so others know not to merge? | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | seems like I'm not required anymore. | 21:22 |
| gongysh | fine. Yes sir. | 21:22 |
| danwent | let's try to get that wrapped up today | 21:22 |
| danwent | enikanorov_: i imagine its late-night for you? | 21:22 |
| enikanorov_ | yes, as usual | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | So I'll put this way: I'll -2 if something is really wrong :) | 21:22 |
| danwent | so let's try to get all outstanding issue on this patch in so enikanorov_ sees them in his AM. | 21:23 |
| enikanorov_ | that would be great | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: agreed. | 21:23 |
| danwent | but similar to the l3-rpc branch, there are a lot of dependencies here, so the sooner the better | 21:24 |
| danwent | ok, now onto bugs | 21:24 |
| danwent | we want to particular focus on bugs that are relevant for folsom, as we're planning on pushing distros to make sure they take all our stable changes at the end of G-1 | 21:24 |
| danwent | https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-backport-potential | 21:24 |
| danwent | garyk has been the champion of stable/folsom for quantum and is leading that charge | 21:25 |
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| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15758/ | 21:25 |
| danwent | this one is mine, i just need to respond to salv's feedback, and we should be good | 21:25 |
| garyk | danwent: i think that we are looking good at the moment (the critical on you resolved has already been added to stable) | 21:25 |
| danwent | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16044/ | 21:26 |
| garyk | danwent: i'll review that one tomorrow | 21:26 |
| danwent | ok, great, garyk will be second for this one | 21:26 |
| danwent | rkukura: seems like the -1 from Alex is more of a nit? | 21:26 |
| rkukura | danwent: I'll post an updated patch today that should be ready. | 21:27 |
| danwent | ok, i will re-review that one | 21:27 |
| garyk | danwent: rkukura this one will be a challenge to backport as the ovs code was refactored a bit... | 21:27 |
| rkukura | Are log messages supposed to be internationalized? | 21:27 |
| alexxu | rkukura, After you updated the patch, I will help to review again :) | 21:27 |
| garyk | rkukura: i think so. not 100% sure | 21:28 |
| danwent | rkukura: yes, moving forward we are going to enforce that we at least can internationalize (i.e., we use the underscore) in quantum | 21:28 |
| rkukura | OK | 21:28 |
| danwent | garyk: hrmmm… so we need a special backport patch? | 21:29 |
| garyk | danwent: yup. i'll do it. i'll just need an extra few eyes... | 21:29 |
| danwent | garyk: great | 21:29 |
| rkukura | It should be straightforward | 21:29 |
| danwent | are there other folsom relevant fixes we're looking to backport? | 21:30 |
| danwent | garyk: only one for G-1 i had a question about was this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1080286 | 21:30 |
| garyk | danwent: just the two that you mentioned. there is one still pending a fix (external networks and provider) | 21:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1080286 in quantum "L3 agent logging does not work" [Medium,In progress] | 21:30 |
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| danwent | garyk: yes, but provider networks one may be tricky from a backward compat perspective… probably not something we want to rush in. | 21:31 |
| garyk | danwent: this problem is only if the G version. it was with the usage of the common logging. | 21:31 |
| rkukura | I'll look at the provide networks tomorrow | 21:31 |
| danwent | garyk: ah, great | 21:31 |
| garyk | danwent: gongysh has resolved this with the l3-agent patch (2 birds with one stone) | 21:31 |
| danwent | rkukura: cool | 21:31 |
| danwent | ok, so last bug review I wanted to mention was this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16151/ | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | this doesn't actually fix the bug | 21:32 |
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| danwent | in my testing, this slightly reduces the memory usage | 21:32 |
| garyk | danwent: markmcclain correct - it does not solve the issue of the memory | 21:32 |
| danwent | or at least seems to, given my testing of one run without it, and onewith it | 21:32 |
| danwent | 1.4 GB -> 0.9 GB | 21:32 |
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| markmcclain | still 750 MB too much :) | 21:33 |
| danwent | so the question is: is this a useful half step? | 21:33 |
| danwent | clearly we need to do better | 21:33 |
| garyk | danwent: yes. | 21:33 |
| danwent | markmcclain: is this inline with what you think the more complete fix is? | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | no | 21:34 |
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| danwent | markmcclain: ok, so then can you review and -2 if you don't think it should be merged? | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I think the real fix is going to be more involved | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | and I'd rather it land early G2 | 21:34 |
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| danwent | ok, is there anyone for whom the current leak is a blocker, and would be helped by memory at least going down to under 1 GB? | 21:35 |
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| danwent | otherwise, delaying it a bit probably has little cost | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | it is bad but I don't feel the need for rushing anything in G-1. | 21:36 |
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| gongysh | I think we can keep it there and hope the developer investigates more. | 21:36 |
| danwent | ok, markmcclain, please -2 the review explaining why | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | will do | 21:36 |
| gongysh | I mean the patch. | 21:36 |
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| gongysh | no need to -2. | 21:36 |
| gongysh | I think | 21:37 |
| danwent | markmcclain: perhaps if you provide a few pointers, the developer of the existing patch might improve on it. | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | that was my plan | 21:37 |
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| danwent | gongysh: well, if we don't think something should be merged, it should either be abandoned or -2'd otherwise others might merge it. | 21:37 |
| danwent | Ok, anything else on G-1? | 21:37 |
| danwent | #topic open discussion | 21:37 |
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| danwent | one thing I wanted to mention is that release day (thursday) is a US holiday | 21:38 |
| garyk | danwent: i gues you guys will need to cancel the holiday. | 21:38 |
| danwent | so those of you not in the US, please keep an eye on the ML aliases in case anything urgent pops up. | 21:38 |
| danwent | garyk: haha… tell that to my wife :P | 21:38 |
| danwent | salv-orlando will be the official point person for any last minute issues with G-1 | 21:39 |
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| salv-orlando | I am totally sure that I garyk and gongysk will be more than happy thant calling you direct on the phone :) | 21:39 |
| danwent | as he is completely "un-american" | 21:39 |
| danwent | ok, any other open discussion? | 21:39 |
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| garyk | salv-orlando: please send me his cell no. i'll start practicing | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | danwent: by writing that on IRC, you've just unleashed the CIA and the FBI on me | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | oh and the NSA too | 21:40 |
| danwent | :) | 21:40 |
| danwent | ok, thanks folks. keep up the great work on reviews to wrap up G-1! | 21:40 |
| danwent | #endmeeting | 21:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 19 21:40:39 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-11-19-21.01.html | 21:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-11-19-21.01.txt | 21:40 |
| gongysh | dan: don't be teased. I am not going to call u by phone. | 21:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/quantum/2012/quantum.2012-11-19-21.01.log.html | 21:40 |
| garyk | good night and happy holidays | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | night | 21:40 |
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