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salv-orlandobefore markvoelker and mestery pop up and claim first spot I would let them know that I've been here for ages!20:56
markvoelkersalv-orlando: heh20:57
mestery@salv-orlando: Ha!20:57
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mesteryRats! Even in replies @markvoelker beats me to the punch. :)20:57
markmcclainhaha20:57
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gongyshhi20:59
garykhi, i have been waiting in tee queue since 5am.20:59
sthakkarg'day guys20:59
markvoelkermestery: only by 2 seconds.  I'll just chalk that up to the super-secret ultra low latency super-diamond QoS line I had put in between me and the IRC servers.20:59
mesterymarkvoelker: Need to get me one of those.21:00
mesterygaryk: I think you even beat salv-orlando then ;)21:00
danwentoh man, the world is changing :)21:00
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danwent#startmeeting quantum21:00
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openstackMeeting started Mon Nov 12 21:00:53 2012 UTC.  The chair is danwent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
garykmestery: by a whisker21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'quantum'21:00
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maganaHello world!21:00
danwenthooray, meetbot is back in the world of the living :)21:01
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danwent#info agenda is here: http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings21:01
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garykmagana: it should be _("Hello world!")21:01
rkukurahi21:01
danwent#info we are one week out from G-1 branch point next tuesday.  All non-critical bugs targeted for G-1 must be in by next tuesday when we branch21:01
zyluohi21:02
danwent#topic grizzly-121:02
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danwentso here is current status21:02
danwent#link http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/Meetings21:02
danwentoops21:02
danwent#link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-121:02
danwentmuch better :)21:02
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danwentit seems like most of you (with some pestering) updated the 'delivery' status of your items, thank you for htat.21:02
maganagaryk: if magana == mistake then dummy_mode = enabled21:03
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danwentWe'll first talk about any items that are 'high' or above, then go through reviews in more detail to make sure we have all important bugs and or blueprint covered from a review perspective21:03
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nati_uenoHi All21:04
danwentnati_ueno_2: quantum gate stuff is in review21:04
danwentwe'll talk about that in a bit21:04
nati_uenodanwent: I got it21:04
danwentsalv-orlando: service type defition status.  proposed for review soon?21:04
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danwentotherwise, will need to be G-221:04
salv-orlandodanwent: I started coding today. I noted on the blueprint that if I don't have code ready by weds I will postpone21:05
danwent#info btw, if you're looking for help with any blueprints that you've signed up for, let me know, as I have a few people pinging me looking for things to work on.21:05
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danwentsalv-orlando: ah, i see that on the whiteboard, thanks for updating21:05
danwentnati_ueno: iptables impl of security groups.21:05
nati_uenoI'll push the code until Wednesday21:06
nati_uenoCoding is almost finished. I'm testing it now21:06
danwentok, if you feel that you're close21:06
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danwenti'm a bit worried that this may be a large change-set that will take a lot of review cycles.21:06
danwentcan we try and identify the people who would review it right now?21:07
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zyluoI'll help21:07
danwentI suspect arosen would be up for it, since he did security groups for the nicira plugin already21:07
markmcclainI was going to suggest him21:07
danwentzyluo: thanks.21:07
amotokiwill do.21:08
danwentamotoki: ok, great.21:08
danwentnati_ueno: can you be sure to keep those three folks updated when you push?21:08
nati_uenoOK Thanks! zyluo, arosen, amotoki21:08
nati_uenoI got it21:08
danwenthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/rpc-for-l3-agent21:08
gongyshhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/15476/21:08
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gongyshseems markmcclain has something to say.21:08
danwentthis is under review, but it seems like there are still some design discussions going on?21:08
markmcclainI added comments to the Google doc21:09
nati_uenomarkmcclain: which doc?21:09
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salv-orlandohttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1rWp41OnCwivj2sMazeNkD3RTf1rL_GzV2f9Fud5FNjY/edit?pli=1#heading=h.98sjs99uphl821:10
danwentOk, do we have two core devs working on this, such that if design decisions are addressed, we can review in time?21:10
salv-orlandoor following the link from the bp21:10
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markmcclainthanks-salv-orlando.  Originally I thought the plan was to make the agent<>service communication more efficient.  The work is heading a different direction21:10
danwentmarkmcclain: yeah, that was my goal in creating the BP21:10
gongyshhi, I need to read your comments.21:11
nati_uenosalv-orlando: Thanks21:11
danwentbasically to remove the need to poll with the L3-agent, essentially the same thing we did for the l2-agents21:11
gongyshBUt I think the direction is right way.21:11
gongyshmore efficient.21:11
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salv-orlandoI think that would be gongysh goal. From what I gather it seems the design is actually more complex than what it needs to be.21:11
markmcclainI disagree… the line between agent/server is muddied21:11
salv-orlandoThis might end up in a long discussion.21:12
danwentsalv-orlando: i agree21:12
markmcclainwe can discuss after the meeting to keep things moving21:12
danwentok, the point of the meeting is to flag potential issues21:12
gongyshok21:12
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danwentdo the three of you think its enough to continue talking on gerrit?  otherwise, perhaps try to meet up on openstack-dev21:12
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danwent(but not during main quantum meeting :p)21:12
danwentsounds like we do have two core devs working on the review though, which is good.21:13
markmcclainI think via the ML or IRC21:13
danwenthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/quantum-service-framework21:13
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danwentis eugene here?21:13
enikanorov_yep21:13
maganaI will be helping Salvatore with testing and reviews21:13
danwentenikanorov_: hi :)21:14
enikanorov_hi folks!21:14
danwentcan you provide a quick update on the status of this, anything that is blocking you, and whether you think it can be merged for g-1?21:14
enikanorov_I hope to merge it tomorrow if i don't recieve more comments21:15
danwentlooks like garyk and salv-orlando are taking care of you from a review perspective, so we're covered there.21:15
enikanorov_just fix remaining few21:15
enikanorov_yep21:15
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danwentenikanorov_: well, awesome. and welcome to the team.21:15
enikanorov_thank you :)21:15
salv-orlandoTechnically , bar a few nits, it's good to merge. I have still a little concern over the fact that at the moment it allows for having multiple APIs for the same class of service21:15
salv-orlandobut it is something we can perhaps address with a follow-up patch. I don't want to hold up the lb work.21:16
danwentsalv-orlando: you mean multiple plugins for the same "service" api?21:16
danwentsalv-orlando: yeah, just make sure we file a bug and target it for G-221:16
salv-orlandoNope. I mean multiple LB API extensions exposed to the tenant.21:16
danwentsalv-orlando: ah, i get it21:16
danwenthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/metadata-overlapping-networks21:16
danwentmarkmcclain:21:16
amotokisalv-orlando: are there any docs to describe the spec for service framwork?21:16
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danwentas i mentioned on whiteboard, we should either update this to good progress with indication of a review by Wed, or move to G-2.21:17
salv-orlandoamotoki: for the patch under review, see the bp whiteboard (I don't recall the link to enikanorov_ wiki page)21:17
markmcclainclose to posting for review… had to make a few changes to isolated networks (ie no router)21:17
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danwentmarkmcclain: ok, great.  even a WIP branch would help some people start reviewing it.21:18
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danwenthave we identified two core reviewers?21:18
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garykdanwent: i'll review21:18
danwentgaryk: k, great.  i can reivew that one as well21:18
danwentas i'm pretty interested to see the proposed solution.21:18
garykme too21:19
danwentok, markmcclain: garyk and I will be your contacts.21:19
markmcclaincool21:19
danwentok, that's every that is high or above for G-1 blueprints21:19
danwentremember to priortize your review cycles based on the priority of the blueprint or bug21:19
danwentI'd also like to encourage people to spend cycles on bugs that affect folsom21:19
danwentgaryk has been spending a ton of his cycles fixing these issues, and we need to make sure we spread the load :)21:20
danwentwe're targeting a stable/folsom release along with G-121:20
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danwentso getting those fixes in, and then backported to stable/folsom is important.21:20
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danwent#info current list of folsom-backport-potential bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-backport-potential21:21
danwentok, next I was just going to make sure we were covered for any important (particularly folsom relevant) bugs currently under review.21:21
danwenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/14990/21:21
danwentthis is devstack review for quantum gating21:21
danwentgaryk and I are reviewing21:21
danwentI think this is pretty much good to go.21:22
danwentgaryk, did you confirm that volume issue you were seeing is not related to this?21:22
garykdanwent: yes.21:22
garykdanwent: i also saw some patches with smokestack addressing volumes21:22
danwentgaryk: great.  Ok, i'm planning on +2-ing after the meeting. any blocker on your end?21:22
garykdanwent: no. tomorrow morning i'll do this first thing21:23
danwentsweet, great work on this nati_ueno21:23
garyk+121:23
danwenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/15747/21:23
danwentthis is the bug to fixe quota performance by doing a count() lookup, rather than fetching all items21:23
danwenti'm one reviwer, but I think we need a second21:23
danwentpatch is close to being good to go.21:23
markmcclainI can review21:23
danwentmarkmcclain: thx21:24
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maganadanwent: I will be helping Juergen and getting this fixed and reviewed21:24
danwentmagana: great.  he responded to first round of feedback, and so I think we're now close21:24
danwenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/15829/21:24
maganadanwent: as you said, we are getting close to complete21:24
danwentfix to ip allocation logic from garyk.  currently, no core devs21:24
salv-orlandoare you sure :)21:24
danwenterrr… i'm wrong21:25
danwentlooks like we have 3, so we're good to go21:25
garykdanwent: i need to address comments. tomorrow it will be ready for next round :)21:25
danwentgaryk: thx21:25
danwentfloodlight/bigswitch plugin: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15071/21:25
danwentseems like we have two core devs21:25
maganagaryk: i like to review this as well21:25
danwentcomments imply that we are close to merge here, so seems ok for g-1?21:26
garykmagana: ok21:26
markmcclainyeah.. just needs a few classes to be renamed21:26
danwentmarkmcclain: great.21:26
amotokii think so too.21:26
danwentthis one is already fine with respect to our core dev maintainer policy, as sumit is a core21:26
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danwenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/15758/21:26
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danwentmy patch for fixing some floating IP allocation checks21:27
danwentgongysh: let's chat after the meeting about your question21:27
gongyshyes21:27
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salv-orlandoI can play 2nd core on that patch21:27
danwentsalv-orlando: beat me to the question :)21:27
danwenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/15022/21:27
danwentxenserver support for OVS21:27
danwenthasn't see a lot of activity lately21:28
danwentlooks like it was just restored21:28
danwentmnewby: do we have core devs actively working on this review yet?21:28
salv-orlandoI've tried to review that patch, but I need some more cycles to build infrastructure for live testing21:28
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markmcclainsame here21:28
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danwentok, so is this realistic for G-1, or should be bump to G-2?21:29
garyki'd like to but i have never used xen so i am nure i'd be much help here21:29
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mnewbydanwent: The lack of easy testing is complicating things.21:29
danwentmnewby: yeah, understoood21:29
salv-orlandoI need a full day, so I'm not super confident that I would be able to review it soon.21:29
danwentok, so since people have a really busy week coming up, i'm guessing that doesn't mean a lot of time before G-121:29
* salv-orlando Probably half...21:30
danwentI'd guess then we move it to G-221:30
danwentI don't think there's a big practical impact on anyone?21:30
arosennicira21:30
mnewbynope21:30
arosenoops**21:30
nati_uenoSorry my office network get down. I'm back now21:30
danwentarosen: wrong window?21:30
arosenyea :/21:30
danwenti hope that wasn't a password :P21:30
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SamuelLol21:31
danwentok, updated to be G-221:31
danwentif it merges in G-1, all the better21:31
danwentbut ttx wants us to be conservative with targeting milestones21:31
danwenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/15872/21:31
danwentsome simple L3 validation improvements21:31
danwentjust needs 2nd core21:32
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amotokii will check it.21:32
danwentamotoki: thx21:32
danwenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/15384/21:32
danwentpagination21:32
danwentanyone have the status on this?21:32
danwentseems like there are some design questions in the reivew21:32
gongyshhi21:33
gongyshalex has sent out some emails about it.21:33
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salv-orlandodanwent: yes. Alex Xu has come up with a POC patch for dealing with the issue highlighted on the plugin interface side21:33
gongyshI think salv-orlando has some opinion on it.21:33
salv-orlandoThat's for me to review21:33
amotokigongysh: I am checking his email. On API side his proposal is reasonable.21:33
danwentOk… sounds like something that is not high propbability for G-1?21:33
salv-orlandoMy concern was not on the tenant API side. But on the plugin interface.21:34
danwentor do we think design questions may be wrapped up in the next day or two?21:34
danwentits a big patch :(21:34
salv-orlandoI'd say that it's not a big deal if this slips for G-321:34
salv-orlandoG-2 sorry :)21:34
danwentthough a fair amount is test code21:34
salv-orlandoSince it is a big patch I also expect more cycles to fix minor issues which have not yet been spotted21:34
salv-orlandoalso, it touches all the plugins21:34
danwentyeah, good point21:35
sthakkarsalv-orlando: yea makes sense21:35
danwentok, let's move to G-2.21:35
gongyshfine with that.21:35
danwentit will probably take us a week to sort out the design and reivew, at which point, g-2 will be open for merging21:35
danwentgongysh: thx21:35
danwentok, updated whiteboard21:36
danwentare there any other outstanding reviews where we think it is important that the changes land in time for G-1?21:36
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danwentparticularly, if there are changes relevant to stable/folsom21:36
danwentalso, are there any bugs targeted at G-1 that seem relevant to stable/folsom, but are not "in progress": https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-121:37
danwentrkukura: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1067669 ?21:37
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1067669 in quantum "Mapping same bridge to different phyiscal networks succeed" [Medium,Confirmed]21:37
danwentmarkmcclain: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1070011 ?21:37
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1070011 in quantum "the notification message payload for delete events should include all metadata" [Medium,Confirmed]21:38
rkukuraI'll get a fix into review for that in the next day or two21:38
danwentgaryk: I assume this does not need to be G-1 anymore? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/104676621:38
sthakkarhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-backport-potential21:38
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1046766 in quantum "Need to provide a formal API for Nova to use to plug/unplug VIFs" [High,In progress]21:38
danwentrkukura: k, great.  when you start working on it, please move it to "in progress"21:38
markmcclainyeah.. I planning to get that one pushed in time21:38
rkukuraok21:38
markmcclainthe ceilometer folks need it21:38
danwentmarkmcclain: k, thanks.21:38
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garykdanwent: there are 2 patches pendning review for linuxbridge and nova.21:38
danwentgaryk: in quantum or in nova?21:39
garykdanwent: in both. they are linked together.21:39
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danwentok, links?21:39
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garykdanwent: it would be best to get it pushed fr nova and then we can commit the quantum. what i mean is that if the one goes through without the other then linuxbridge will not work.21:40
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danwentgaryk: yeah, makes sense to push nova first, as we have more control of quantum.21:40
garykwe can do itin a staged manner but it will take weeks for something that is rarely if not used at the moment21:40
danwentis the quantum bug targeted for g-1 already?21:40
garykyes21:40
garykhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/14830/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/14961/.21:41
garykthe patter is the quantum patch21:41
garyksorry latter21:41
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amotokigaryk: I think is should be a BP rather than a bug.21:41
garykamotoki: the bp will be done for g-221:41
danwentgaryk: do we need to prevent the quantum side from being merged before the nova side?  if so, I would -2 it yourself, to prevent accidental merger.21:42
garykdanwent: good point. i'll do that21:42
danwentOk, so sounds like we basically have our marching orders for G-121:42
danwentany additional elements we want to highlight?21:43
danwentitems at medium priority or below, its up to the developer to track down core devs to get them reviewed.21:43
garykdanwent: there is the issue with qpid - i have a patch in common at the moment which deals with it21:43
amotokigaryk: I feel it is the first step of your plan and the bug seems not be be all resolved by your patch?21:43
danwentgaryk: yeah, I saw that.  patch looks reasonable to me, but I don't have core privs in openstack-common, nor do I know qpid well enough to say with confidence that its ok.21:44
danwentgaryk: do we have other who will approve that patch, or do we need to go bug people?21:44
garykamotoki: the bug should be the bp.21:44
garykdanwent: i think that we should be ok. if there is no reviews in a daythen i'll let you know21:45
danwentgaryk: k, great.  and no corresponding quantum change needed?21:45
danwentOk, last call for any G-1 topics21:45
garykdanwent: no. it is all in common. just need to pul i the code when it is approved.21:45
danwent#topic sub-teams21:45
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garykamotoki: i'll open a bug for the lb21:46
danwentSo as we talked about at the summit and in previous meetings, we are trying to distribute quantum leadership tasks better by making subteams21:46
garykdanwent: stable need a stiff drink21:46
maganadanwent: What is the wiki for the sub-team?21:46
sthakkarmagana: was an etherpad right?21:46
danwenti transferred the state of the etherpad to a wiki, which looks WAY more official: http://wiki.openstack.org/Quantum/Teams21:46
sthakkarfrom the summit21:47
sthakkarah ok21:47
danwentyeah, it was: https://etherpad.openstack.org/grizzly-quantum-wrapup21:47
danwentbut please don't edit that page anymore, otherwise they will get out of sync21:47
danwentanyway, i'm going to start assigning the "approver" field of blueprints to be the sub-team lead, not me21:47
maganadanwent: got it, thanks!21:47
danwentthat sub-team lead will be responsible for understanding the state of those items before the team meeting, making sure their 'delivery' state gets updated, etc.21:48
danwentbasically, distributed nagging :P21:48
danwentalso, for bugs, I suggested a set of tags.  Thus, when we do bug triage, we can tag bugs with a particular sub-team tag, and then add at least the sub-team lead as a "watcher" on the bug.21:49
danwentas the sub-team lead should be best equipped to triage the bug21:49
sthakkardanwent: agreed i think there are a ton projects now. make the team name the tag/keyword?21:49
sthakkar*of teams21:50
danwentsthakkar: ?  that's basically what I tried to suggest, or maybe i'm not following?21:50
danwenthttp://wiki.openstack.org/Quantum/Teams21:50
sthakkardanwent: oh yea, im in agreement21:51
danwentin some cases, the team is more responsible for quantum items in another project, in which case, perhaps we tag the items with 'quantum' to identify that it is a Horizon bug related to quantum.21:51
danwentok… so all of this is open to feedback and revision, but we have to start somewhere.21:51
sthakkarwasnt sure if the bug system allowed the complex team names we currently have21:51
sthakkarw/ spaces etc21:51
danwentso if you're a sub-team lead, please be ready to "report" on the status of your sub-team at the quantum monday meetings.21:52
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sthakkarim happy to take point on lb21:52
rkukuradanwent: I can take care of the lb&ovs plugins, so you can remove the question marks21:52
danwentalso, I didn't have anyone official to put in charge of the OVS + LB plugin21:52
danwentrkukura: let me know if you're interested, otherwise perhaps someone else.21:52
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danwentsthakkar: i was leaving that one as TBD, as I wanted to see who ended up contributing much of the code and showing up at monday meetings.  I'm happy to have you play that role at least in the interrim though, though I'd also like to make sure the mirantis folks participate as well.21:53
amotokidanwent: "lbaas" is a better tag for LBaaS. "lb" is confusing in quantum community.21:53
danwentamotoki: good point21:53
danwentwill update21:53
danwentamotoki: i even typed it twice for two different things :P21:54
sthakkardanwent: ok sounds good, im fine with that. just volunteering to be lead nagger :)21:54
danwentsthakkar: ok, sounds good.21:54
* salv-orlando is developing a form of hate toward was suffix 21:54
salv-orlandoaas21:54
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danwentyeah....21:54
danwent#topic open discussion21:54
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sthakkarsalv-orlando: haha21:54
danwentI have two items21:54
danwentfirst.21:54
garyksalv-orlando: :)21:54
danwentmemory consumption by unit tests21:55
danwentgaryk has been putting a lot of work into this, but its proven pretty intractable21:55
markmcclainI've been working on it too21:55
danwentwould be good if someone else could take a crack21:55
danwentmarkmcclain: ok, great21:55
danwentmarkmcclain: any leads?21:55
salv-orlandodanwent, markmcclain, garyk: I am the third volunteer21:55
danwentthree is a crowd :)21:56
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danwentok, well i'm sure garyk is happy to have one of you assign the bug to yourself, and we can all coordinate on possible solutions21:56
garykdanwent: i am sorry but i could not resist - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7acD4q0lp021:56
danwenthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/106527621:56
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 1065276 in quantum "Quantum test suite leaks memory like a sieve" [High,Confirmed]21:56
danwentgaryk: ha!21:56
danwentgaryk: man, its been forever since i've seen that21:57
danwentthey've got us working in shifts!21:57
danwentanyway21:57
danwentother open discussion topic21:57
danwenthttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/15771/21:57
danwentthis is mokeypatch change for openssl zombies21:57
garykdanwent: this in a intesrting one.21:58
danwentwe merged this change into master, but someone raised concern with it during stable/folsom review21:58
danwentgaryk: has eventlet even merged the change upstream yet?21:58
garykdanwent: the correct solution is to fix eventlet. i understand tat this has been done for fedora. it just needs to be done for ubuntu.21:59
danwentor are they talking about patching upstream eventlet?21:59
danwenti.e., is there a released version of eventlet that can fix this?21:59
garykdanwent: i am not really sure. i'll try and get oneof the canonical guys. nce we have an ack from them then we can remove the ugly patch for os=False21:59
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garykdanwent: the correct solution is to patch eventlet to treat this specific case. i think that it still needs to be tested.22:00
Chinmay_salv-orlando: do let me know if I can help in coding on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/+spec/services-insertion-wrapper ...will like to get involved in implementation of it22:00
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danwentgaryk: yeah, that is my feeling as well.  My first priority is making sure that running Folsom installs don't have this issue though, so until we can confirm that both RH and Ubuntu are fixed, i'm in favor of keeping the change.22:00
garykdanwent: me too.22:00
salv-orlandoChinmay_: for this patch I can use your help as a reviewer, but we'll definitely need impl help for the G-2 work22:00
sthakkarchinmay: yep mentioned that to salvatore22:00
maganaChinmay_: thats was implemented for cisco plugin only22:01
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danwent#todo #garyk followup with canonical about eventlet patch for zombies bug22:01
sthakkarmagana: assuming he was referring to the one currently in g1/g2 that salvatore is leading22:01
Chinmay_salv-orlando: sure i can help you out with review22:01
maganasalvatore is working on the general service type framework22:01
garykdanwent: ok22:01
salv-orlandok thanks22:01
danwentgaryk: ok, let's sync up again about it next meeting, so we can figure out whether we need to push that to stable or not22:01
Chinmay_and for implementaiton for G2 ...i can get involved form the start22:01
garykdanwent: ok22:01
danwenthaving it in master for the time being is OK in my opinion22:01
danwentok, other open discussion?22:02
danwentotherwise we should let garyk go to bed :(22:02
garyk:) good night22:02
danwentok, thanks folks.  remember to focus on high priority reviews for your review days!22:02
danwent#endmeeting22:02
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salv-orlandoenikanorov is now the new record holder for staying up late I believe :)22:02
salv-orlandobye all!22:03
Chinmay_thank you all22:03
enikanorov_bye :)22:03
magana_("Good bye world!")22:03
danwentenikanorov_: ah, sorry :(22:03
markvoelkergoodnight22:03
nati_uenoおやすみなさい 世界22:03
SamuelBye22:03
enikanorov_enikanorov_ is hanging here 24/7 =)22:03
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markmcclainlater22:03
gongyshmarkmcclain:  about create_at and update_at time?22:03
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gongyshwe have to go on.22:03
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salv-orlandogongysh, markmcclain: there might be another meeting on this channel22:04
gongyshwhat is your concern.22:04
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gongyshlet's move to openstack-dev22:04
markmcclainwhy don't we just move to ML, so that everyone can track22:04
gongyshtoo slow for email.22:04
gongyshI have sent out emails many times. no response at all.22:05
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gongyshlet's move to openstack-dev or email?22:06
salv-orlandoI will dozing in and off from IRC. I can contribute to discussion, but not very actively.22:06
gongyshok, I will email you. bye22:07
markmcclainsound good22:07
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