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| jgriffith | #startmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Aug 15 16:00:42 2012 UTC. The chair is jgriffith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| thingee | o/ | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: thingee rnirmal ...around? | 16:01 |
| rnirmal | I'm here | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | anybody else? | 16:01 |
| vincent_hou | me | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | Hi vincent_hou | 16:01 |
| vincent_hou | hi | 16:02 |
| thingee | don't physically see durgin =/ | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | We'll get started anyway, should be a short meeting | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: ? | 16:02 |
| jgriffith | #topic F3 status | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "F3 status" | 16:03 | |
| jgriffith | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/folsom-3 | 16:03 |
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| jgriffith | So most everything here is under review or done | 16:03 |
| bswartz | I'm here | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | The two exceptions: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/cinder-notifications | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1023311 | 16:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1023311 in cinder "Quotas management is broken" [High,Triaged] | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | I think cinder-notifications is going to slip, unless I catch up with Craig and we get it in today | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | It's actually probably pretty close, just bit rotted a bit with all of the changes over the past month or so | 16:05 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: I can update on notifications | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: cool | 16:05 |
| rnirmal | cp16net: has it mostly done...having issues with the tests | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | #action rnirmal take a look at finishing cinder-notifications | 16:05 |
| rnirmal | after his update... tox doesn't seem to run any tests | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: yeah, I think it was mostly just moving to openstack.common | 16:06 |
| rnirmal | yup | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | probably rebase off of master and should be ok | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | cool | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | I'm moving Quota management to RC1 | 16:06 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: will ask cp16net to ping offline for any help on that | 16:06 |
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| DuncanT | Sorry, just back from the dentist | 16:06 |
| dricco | here, too | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Sounds good.. and if you need something from me shout | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: fun fun | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | So other than those two, we have code for everything else | 16:07 |
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| jgriffith | Just a matter of getting it reviewed, making any fixes and submitting before end of day | 16:07 |
| DuncanT | I've a patch that is subbonly refusing to work to make size optional when creating volumes from snapshots | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | ttx will cut F3 late tonight and after that new features are pretty much shut down | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: haven't seen it? | 16:08 |
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| jgriffith | DuncanT: Throw it out, maybe some of us can help figure out the issue? | 16:08 |
| dricco | I have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11141/ | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | dricco: That's nova, this is cinder ;) | 16:09 |
| DuncanT | jgriffith: Will put it up in a moment | 16:09 |
| dricco | sorry, though some of ye guys had nova core status | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | dricco: No problem, kinda just giving you a hard time | 16:10 |
| dricco | I'll wait for Russell Bryant to get back on it | 16:10 |
| dricco | lol | 16:10 |
| dricco | :-) | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | dricco: Yes, it's good to bring it to everybody's attention | 16:10 |
| russellb | hm? | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | russellb: ?? | 16:10 |
| jgriffith | Ok, so it looks like everybody has their drivers in | 16:11 |
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| jgriffith | We should all focus on clearing out the reviews today | 16:12 |
| bswartz | I'm happy to review code if anyone needs it | 16:12 |
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| jgriffith | bswartz: (and all) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+cinder,n,z | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | I just monitor this page throughout the day, easier than trying to catch email notifications etc | 16:13 |
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| jgriffith | of course if you have bandwidth help out on the Nova side too | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | Just a reminder... | 16:13 |
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| jgriffith | After F3 is cut it's bug fixes only unless there's an FFE | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | So if you have a feature it's going to get increasingly difficult to introduce it after today | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | #topic RC | 16:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RC" | 16:14 | |
| jgriffith | Speaking of RC... | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | The other thing that was decided at the PPB yesterday... | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | Due to the screaming and yelling on the ML regarding nova-vol and Cinder | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | After RC1 we'll backport all Cinder changes/additions to Nova-Volume | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | The idea is having a feature to feature match between nova-vol and Cinder | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | I'm not crazy about it, but I see the reasoning behind it | 16:16 |
| bswartz | does that include drivers? | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | Then hopefully we can truly deprecate nova-vol in Grizzly | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: yes | 16:16 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: You should be covered already though no? | 16:16 |
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| bswartz | jgriffith: we've submitted 4 different drivers, and only one of them is in nova-vol | 16:17 |
| bswartz | I will need to port the other 3 back | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: I thought all of them were there... sorry | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: Don't worry about it right now, just keep it in mind that you'll want to do it in the coming weeks | 16:17 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: what is the deadline for backporting driers from cinder to nova-vol? | 16:18 |
| bswartz | drivers* | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: So there's going to be a massive effort to dump/backport everything after RC1 | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | This was just decided yesterday so it's not going to be unrealistic in terms of timeline | 16:19 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: do you have a link for the schedule for the rest of the release? | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: http://wiki.openstack.org/FolsomReleaseSchedule | 16:19 |
| bswartz | thanks | 16:20 |
| thingee | :q | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | :O $#%$#%# | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | That's me blowing chunks | 16:20 |
| thingee | :) | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | Ok, any questions on F3 or Folsom in general? | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | I was hoping to catch up with winstond regarding scheduler, but no luck | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | #topic open discussion | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion" | 16:21 | |
| rnirmal | when does trunk get branched for folsom | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | Sorry rnirmal I just cut you off :) | 16:22 |
| rnirmal | np... I was a tad late | 16:22 |
| rnirmal | is it F3 or RC1 | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | That's a good question... | 16:22 |
| jdurgin | DuncanT: making size optional when creating from an image would be good as well | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | I had that date | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | I believe ttx will do that when he cuts F3 but might be later | 16:22 |
| DuncanT | I plan on fixing the regression around scheduler and volume nodes being down at some point... but I see that as a bug fix :-) | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | I would expect no later than the end of this month | 16:22 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: exactly | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: and a critical bug fix no less | 16:23 |
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| jgriffith | Just remember, soooner is better at this stage | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | Each day past F3 things will get more difficult | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | I also wanted to clarify some things about volume_type :) | 16:24 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: oh yes, I was going to ask about that | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: :) | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | The idea behind volume_type was to give a way to tell the scheduler to select different back-ends | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | We've had dicussions about other uses (such as QOS) but haven't implemented anything yet | 16:25 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: but volume_type was added in diablo, long before we supported multiple backends | 16:25 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: isn't volume_types also a user facing feature ? | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: added, implemented and used are all different things | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: yes it is (user facing) | 16:26 |
| DuncanT | bswartz: You could always run different abckends on different volume nodes | 16:26 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: in the diablo timeframe, I thought the Zedara driver used it for qos | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: yes *but* | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: zadara's definition of qos is actually disk/backend type | 16:26 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: sata, scsi, ssd etc | 16:27 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: back to my question... if volume_types is being thought of as sata, scsi, ssd etc | 16:27 |
| rnirmal | then it differs slightly from the volume backend for the scheduler to choose | 16:28 |
| rnirmal | supposing multiple backends support ssd | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Well...... it doesn't have to be limited to that either | 16:28 |
| DuncanT | volume_types of "gold, silver, budget" were also suggested | 16:28 |
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| creiht | the volume_type was added specifically so you could support multiple backends | 16:28 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: I would argue that it doesn't matter how the driver interprets the volume_type, only that it's processed inside the driver rather than outside the driver | 16:28 |
| jgriffith | You can say something like: netapp = type-1, SF=type2, rbd=type3 | 16:28 |
| creiht | or multiple options within one backend | 16:28 |
| rnirmal | true but what I'm getting at is | 16:28 |
| rnirmal | volume_type doesn't necessarily translate to a single backend | 16:28 |
| creiht | correct | 16:29 |
| creiht | it is up to the interpretation of the scheduler | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Yes, I understand your point | 16:29 |
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| creiht | I'm not sure if the default scheduler ever got updated so that you could map volume_types to the backends | 16:29 |
| rnirmal | what I'm getting at is the scheduler needs something more than just volume_type to scheduler to the correct volume backend | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | creiht: So there's the *PROBLEM* | 16:29 |
| rnirmal | creiht: nope I don't think it has it | 16:29 |
| jgriffith | creiht: The scheduler doesn't supoort it anyway | 16:30 |
| DuncanT | There was a method added to driver so that it could provide key/value pairs to the scheduler | 16:30 |
| DuncanT | I think only one driver implemented it and the scheduler was never written | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | Ok, before we rat hole.... | 16:30 |
| bswartz | I think we need to clearly seperate data meant to be consumed by the scheduler from data meant to be consumed by the drivers | 16:30 |
| creiht | our driver uses it :) | 16:30 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: Yes, that's the problem, nothing is implemented in the scheduler yet anyway | 16:30 |
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| jgriffith | bswartz: I have no problem with that | 16:30 |
| rnirmal | driver.get_volume_stats is what reports back to the scheduler | 16:31 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: But in the case of driver that do require/use extra information where would you propose that comes from other than metadata? | 16:31 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: I have to admit that I don't know how volume metadata works | 16:31 |
| bswartz | I need to look into that | 16:31 |
| creiht | bswartz: I don't think anyone does :) | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: It's just metadata you get to add to a volume when you create it | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | In a nut shell | 16:32 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: is it surfaced at the API/CLI? | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: yes | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | In fact you'll notice creiht submitted a bug on this very topic | 16:32 |
| jgriffith | we allow you to set it, but then don't return it in the response info | 16:33 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: Then I support improving the documentation for volume metadata and encouraging everyone to use that instead | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | This was a bug, becuase it should be surfaced via the API | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: HA HA... I support improving *ALL** documentation | 16:33 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: our documentation isn't so good for a new comer IMHO | 16:33 |
| creiht | hah... yeah the volume documentation is a bit lacking | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: This is something we really need to try and improve | 16:34 |
| DuncanT | I think volume_types can provide an easier to understand interface than metadata if it is fully implemented | 16:34 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: yes, but they have *different* uses! | 16:34 |
| creiht | it depends on what you want to do with metadata | 16:34 |
| rnirmal | think of metadata a per volume basis | 16:35 |
| DuncanT | We also have a requirement (and have expressed for a while) that volume_type gets all the way to the driver | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: exactly!!! | 16:35 |
| bswartz | I will see what NetApp can do about documentation -- we are hiring more people on my team. No promises though | 16:35 |
| rnirmal | rather than from the backend provider basis | 16:35 |
| DuncanT | Since we do multiple types from one backend | 16:35 |
| creiht | I need to see as well what we can do to cross-pollinate some of our doc efforts | 16:35 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: It does already | 16:35 |
| creiht | DuncanT: indeed, same boat here | 16:35 |
| annegentle | that would be awesome, both of you | 16:35 |
| creiht | annegentle: :P | 16:36 |
| creiht | :) | 16:36 |
| annegentle | it'll pay back in spades :) | 16:36 |
| creiht | annegentle: I was going to pass that buck to you :) | 16:36 |
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| jgriffith | DuncanT: It's in the volume db object that's passed into the driver on create, or do you mean something different? | 16:36 |
| annegentle | lol I really am working on it behind the scenes, believe me. | 16:36 |
| jgriffith | annegentle: The problem lies on our side IMO | 16:37 |
| creiht | annegentle: yeah I know, just need to make sure we have things set up correctly so that what david does on our docs can also help you guys | 16:37 |
| DuncanT | Shall we try to get some usecases of volume_types .v. metadata written up and see if we're ont he same page? It's a bit fluffy at the moment | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | annegentle: We all throw our code in but *never* document it :( | 16:37 |
| annegentle | creiht: that's perfect, thanks | 16:37 |
| jgriffith | DuncanT: So one use case for metadata is my patch submission :) | 16:37 |
| rnirmal | DuncanT: yes that would be really helpful | 16:37 |
| annegentle | jgriffith: we have sysadmins who wrote the volumes stuff that already exists who would LOVE more info to write more docs. So it's really a matter of matching up people | 16:37 |
| creiht | gah... and I gotta run | 16:37 |
| DuncanT | The only use I've got for metadata is affinity / anti-affinity | 16:38 |
| creiht | jgriffith: if there are any areas that I can help with this stuff, please email me | 16:38 |
| creiht | and I'll check back on the backlog later | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | creiht: we'll do... thanks! | 16:38 |
| DuncanT | I think I understand jgriffith's case as well | 16:38 |
| jgriffith | So let's ignore *what* the metadata contains for a second... | 16:38 |
| rnirmal | is metadata here == volume_type extra specs? | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: gaaaa.... I didn't even want to talk about that one yet :) | 16:39 |
| rnirmal | ok :) | 16:39 |
| jgriffith | So this is exaclty the problem IMO | 16:39 |
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| jgriffith | We have metadata, volume_type and the extra specs | 16:40 |
| rnirmal | cos I think we are going in circles confused between the two... without a clear separation | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | But we don't have a clear agreement/understanding of what they're intended use is | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: yes, I think you are precisely correct | 16:40 |
| jgriffith | So volume_types as I understand it was intended to be used to make scheduler decisions | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | does anybody disagree with that? | 16:41 |
| rnirmal | can we clear it up a little more | 16:42 |
| DuncanT | Ish | 16:42 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: I can't speak to that, but if it's true, then Netapp is definitey doing the wrong thing | 16:42 |
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| jgriffith | rnirmal: I was intentional avoiding specific use cases | 16:42 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: I don't think that's true | 16:42 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: I don't want to avoid specific cases right now | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: I think it works extremely well for your cases where you've used it | 16:43 |
| DuncanT | If you take a broad definition of 'scheduler' | 16:43 |
| rnirmal | if we are to implement the rest of it correctly | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: :) fair enough | 16:43 |
| bswartz | The NetApp driver assumes that its the only backend running | 16:43 |
| bswartz | We need to do some testing of the multi-backend scenarios to see if anything evil happens | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: as it should | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: That shouldn't be your problem, it should be up to the scheduler and API's to sort that out | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: The whole point of the abstraction is it shouldn't matter to the driver | 16:45 |
| rnirmal | yeah the driver need not understand beyond it's presence. | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Ok... I'm not ignoring you I promise | 16:45 |
| bswartz | so if there are multiple backends, don't they all share the same cinder.volumes DB table? | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: yes | 16:45 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: how does the scheduler know which backends created which volumes? | 16:46 |
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| jgriffith | bswartz: ? | 16:47 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: You mean the host column? | 16:47 |
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| rnirmal | right now it's just the host column | 16:47 |
| rnirmal | I don't think anything else is being used | 16:47 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:47 |
| bswartz | well, once a volume is created, when an attach call comes in, it needs to get sent to the right backend | 16:47 |
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| bswartz | so the host column is it? | 16:47 |
| bswartz | perhaps that's all that's needed | 16:47 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: Ahhh... that's different, that's the driver | 16:47 |
| jgriffith | So here's the thing... | 16:48 |
| bswartz | okay maybe I'm not understanding this | 16:49 |
| bswartz | can different backends have different drivers? | 16:49 |
| rnirmal | yes if you run them on different hosts currently | 16:49 |
| bswartz | if they can, then it matters which backend the the attach call goes to, the the right driver can handle it | 16:49 |
| DuncanT | I thought somebody did some work to allow different drivers on one host? | 16:50 |
| rnirmal | DuncanT: I'm working on it | 16:50 |
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| jgriffith | DuncanT: rnirmal did that, yes but it doesn't look like it's going to make it for Folsom | 16:50 |
| DuncanT | Ah, ok, got it | 16:51 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: The volume/api will do an rpc cast to the appropriate volume node | 16:51 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: That volume node will *only* support a single backend/driver | 16:51 |
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| bswartz | jgriffith: until rnirmal's change | 16:52 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: It figures out what volume node to use via the scheduler | 16:52 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: yes, but that's not in so let's leave it out of your question for now | 16:52 |
| bswartz | okay | 16:52 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: I'm just trying to explain why the backend doesn't need to *know* or care and how it works | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: So the current solution for multiple back-ends is multiple volume nodes | 16:53 |
| bswartz | I'm willing to believe that everything just somehow works, but I plan to do some testing to see exactly how it works | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: :) that's what I had to do | 16:53 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: I used pdb and traced a bunch of crap to figure it out | 16:54 |
| rnirmal | bswartz: :) | 16:54 |
| bswartz | I think we still need to tackle the user interface for selecting qos stuff vs driver type stuff | 16:54 |
| vincent_hou | is there anything about CHAP? | 16:54 |
| bswartz | having one argument that's overloaded for both purposes seems like a recipe for trouble | 16:54 |
| jgriffith | vincent_hou: don't think we'll get to it, do you have any updates? | 16:55 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: ? | 16:55 |
| DuncanT | Might be worth enhancing the dummy driver so that it publishes enough to allow the scheduler to tell it apart from a real backend? | 16:55 |
| vincent_hou | i wrote soem specs | 16:55 |
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| vincent_hou | http://wiki.openstack.org/IscsiChapSupport | 16:55 |
| vincent_hou | i hope people can help to look at it | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: The whole point I'm trying to make is in my case qos stuff *IS* driver stuff (as you put it) | 16:56 |
| jgriffith | vincent_hou: Yes, definitely! | 16:56 |
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| jgriffith | vincent_hou: I meant to talk to you the other night... single way chap seems fine to me | 16:56 |
| rnirmal | bswartz: +1 for not overloading | 16:56 |
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| jgriffith | rnirmal: bswartz: overloading what??? | 16:57 |
| vincent_hou | ok | 16:57 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: bswartz: I still don't know what's being overloaded? | 16:57 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: n/m we can talk abt it later... overloading a single construct for deciding user specified type and which backend to choose | 16:57 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: I don't like the idea of volume_types being consumed by both the scheduler and the drivers | 16:57 |
| bswartz | I'm happy to table that discussion though | 16:57 |
| DuncanT | I don't think volume_types is purely about backend selection... indeed bbackend selection should be invisible to the user | 16:58 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: Ahhh.. I see what you're saying now | 16:58 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: hmmm | 16:58 |
| DuncanT | I think they are about classes of service | 16:58 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: I don't know that I see a problem with that, but I'm open minded | 16:58 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: that goes back to why we didn't use volume_types and choose volume_backends instead | 16:58 |
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| DuncanT | I don't want the user to have to know or care about backends at all | 16:58 |
| jgriffith | rnirmal: Yes! That's correct | 16:59 |
| bswartz | I think it's possible to make things work with the current design, but I also think that it can lead to trouble, and we'd be better off changing the design to avoid future problems | 16:59 |
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| jgriffith | bswartz: I don't necessarily see why allowing the backend to read volume_type is *dangerous* | 17:00 |
| bswartz | I there was on argument for the scheduler, and then some other argument for the driver-specific stuff, that would be better IMO | 17:00 |
| DuncanT | bswartz: From the user facing API? Yuck yuck yuck | 17:00 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: it's not dangerous just a ton more confusing. | 17:00 |
| jgriffith | Ok... so here's what I propose | 17:01 |
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| bswartz | maybe just add a QOS user parameter? | 17:01 |
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| rnirmal | and potentially relay to the user what the backends are maybe | 17:01 |
| jgriffith | keep in mind that this is going to be Grizzly work and not Folsom | 17:01 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: That won't work I don't think even though I'd like it :) | 17:01 |
| jgriffith | bswartz: Or, I should say it definitely won't work for Folsom, but we can pitch it for Grizzly | 17:01 |
| jgriffith | So I propose that we flush out the meaning/purpose of volume_type including some use cases | 17:02 |
| rnirmal | yeah all of this should just be grizzly... but getting it early on in grizzly is going to be tremendously helpful.. since it's a lot of moving parts | 17:02 |
| jgriffith | In addition we do the same thing for metadata | 17:02 |
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| jgriffith | I'll also agree that a blueprint for exposing QOS is the best thing for Grizzly | 17:03 |
| bswartz | jgriffith: use cases would be good, so we can have a concrete discussion | 17:03 |
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| jgriffith | bswartz: I'm glad you said that because I'm going to ask everybody involved in this converstation to present some :) | 17:03 |
| jgriffith | #action bswartz DuncanT rnirmal jgriffith Work on use cases/definition for volume_type and metadata for next week | 17:04 |
| rnirmal | jgriffith: I def have a few | 17:04 |
| jgriffith | And on that note we're out of time :) | 17:04 |
| jgriffith | Don't get too bogged down on this right now | 17:04 |
| jgriffith | We need to focus on Folsom | 17:04 |
| jgriffith | But it's good that this came up, we definitely won't to get it ironed out for Grizzly | 17:05 |
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| jgriffith | errr... "won't == want to" | 17:05 |
| jgriffith | Anything else real quick? | 17:05 |
| bswartz | everyone do some reviews! | 17:05 |
| jgriffith | Yes!!! | 17:05 |
| jgriffith | And don't get too wrapped up in whether somebody uses metadata versus volume types :) | 17:06 |
| jgriffith | Thanks everyone! | 17:06 |
| jgriffith | #endmeeting | 17:06 |
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