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whoami-rajat#startmeeting cinder14:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Mar 20 14:00:00 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is whoami-rajat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'14:00
whoami-rajat#topic roll call14:00
happystackero/14:00
Luzio/14:00
zaitcevo/14:00
Dessirao/14:00
eharneyo/14:00
simondodsley0/14:00
rosmaitao/14:00
crohmanno/14:01
msaravanHi14:01
whoami-rajat#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-meetings14:01
cuiyeliuo/14:01
jungleboyjo/14:02
whoami-rajatwe have a good number of people around today14:02
whoami-rajatlet's get started14:03
whoami-rajat#topic announcements14:03
whoami-rajatProposing Pete Zaitcev as core14:03
whoami-rajat#link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/NRYTHQY5GV6H6IDW2YFNJVUZNEBWTPYB/14:03
whoami-rajatGiven all the details mentioned in my mail, I feel Pete is a good candidate for the cinder core team14:03
whoami-rajatPlease add your opinion on the thread if you feel strongly (positive/negative) about it14:03
whoami-rajatThe thread will be open for a week, If there are no objections, I will add Pete to the cinder core group14:03
whoami-rajatnext, 2024.2 Dalmatian vPTG14:04
zaitcevRemember guys, it's like the reviews. -1 is okay!14:04
whoami-rajat:D14:04
zaitcev^_^14:04
jungleboyj:-)14:05
simondodsleycan i do that in the Novemebr US elections?14:05
jungleboyjSounds like an unwilling candidate.  ;-)14:05
whoami-rajatokay moving on14:06
whoami-rajatnext, 2024.2 Dalmatian vPTG14:06
whoami-rajat#link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/HYHKKI3PCBIIGOVW3HGXO2GW26ARURPR/14:06
whoami-rajatthe vPTG is in 3 weeks14:07
whoami-rajatif you haven't registered yet, register here14:07
whoami-rajat#link http://ptg2023.openinfra.dev/14:07
whoami-rajatalso this time the PTG will be in meetpad14:07
crohmannhttps://ptg2024.openinfra.dev/ ?14:07
whoami-rajatit should be 2024 right14:08
whoami-rajatlooks like Kendall had a typo in her email which i didn't double check14:09
whoami-rajatthanks crohmann 14:09
whoami-rajat#link https://ptg2024.openinfra.dev/14:09
whoami-rajatso this time the PTG will be in meetpad14:09
whoami-rajatsince we are promoting open source tools14:09
whoami-rajatmy past experience hasn't been great with it, but maybe they've improved the tool since then14:10
whoami-rajatanyways, something Jon needs to be careful about, and plan alternatives if something goes wrong14:11
jungleboyjYeah, the e-mail had the old ptg info linked.  :-(14:11
whoami-rajatyes14:12
whoami-rajatI've replied to Kendall's email correcting it14:13
whoami-rajatso others don't make the mistake I did14:13
whoami-rajatokay moving on14:14
whoami-rajatnext, Releases14:14
whoami-rajatfirst, RC114:14
whoami-rajat#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/91238614:14
whoami-rajatthe RC1 release for 2024.1 is done14:14
whoami-rajatmaster is now 2024.2 and you should see a stable/2024.1 branch for Caracal14:14
whoami-rajatany release critical bugs should be added to the following etherpad14:14
whoami-rajat#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-rc-bugs14:14
whoami-rajatI see 2 have been added14:15
whoami-rajatI reviewed the dell one but it didn't have CI running14:15
whoami-rajatgiven the reply on my comment, the dell patch seems really important as it's affecting 7 cinder operations14:16
crohmannWhat's the policy of adding bugs to that Etherpad? I have a few bugfixes for cinder-backup queued up (pending final review + merge)14:16
bryanneumannwhoami-rajat, I will bring this up today with my other colleagues 14:16
yianthe dell pachset 4 has passed CI on Mar 1214:16
whoami-rajatcrohmann, if the bugs really need to be in the Caracal release, like a regression or security vulnerability, we add them to the etherpad14:17
whoami-rajatif they are release independent then we can push them to next cycle14:17
whoami-rajatbryanneumann, ack thanks14:17
whoami-rajatyian, if the CI is inactive, is it possible to get a local tempest run results posted on the patch?14:17
crohmannWell all but one are fixes for bugs. Would not call them release critical, but nice to have fixed.14:18
whoami-rajatokay, we can merge them in master as well, the purpose of the etherpad is to track their backports and do a RC2 release14:19
whoami-rajatanything going into master is acceptable14:19
happystackerI think there's one patch missing about SRDF14:19
yianrajat, the latest patchset passed CI on Mar 1214:19
whoami-rajathappystacker, i think it was a feature and that was merged?14:20
whoami-rajatyian, oh, it was on latest PS? then i think we can consider the results14:20
happystackerYou're right it's merged whoami-rajat14:20
crohmannK. My concern is getting them reviewed and merged to master and not have them dangling more than to target a certain release. I'd argue though that for some a backport might make sense.14:20
happystackerwe probably need to cherry-pick it14:21
yianrajat, yes, thanks!14:21
whoami-rajatcrohmann, we can do backports anytime and do a stable branch release, just right now I'm targeting the stability of caracal release14:22
whoami-rajathappystacker, it was merged in Caracal before RC1 so we won't need that, also feature backports aren't allowed as per Cinder backport policy14:22
happystackerawesome, yes I forgot about feature backport14:23
whoami-rajatanyways, my point was to list the bug fixes that are critical for the release14:24
whoami-rajatand we can plan backports and RC2 accordingly14:24
whoami-rajatnext is the cinder-tempest-plugin release14:25
crohmannright. I kept myself from placing all of them in the "request for review" section again :-)14:25
whoami-rajat#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/91353814:25
whoami-rajatThe release patch looks good to me but if anyone is interested in the cinder-tempest-plugin release, please take a look14:26
whoami-rajatnext, Recheck analysis14:28
whoami-rajat#link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/7L6DSFN6GB65FBVHQATTLSQ7HWGBZJHM/14:28
whoami-rajatthey ran the recheck numbers for all projects and cinder seems to be in a good spot14:28
whoami-rajatit's for last 30 days14:29
whoami-rajatbare recheck: 1514:29
whoami-rajatall recheck: 7714:29
whoami-rajatbare recheck %age: 19.48%14:29
whoami-rajatIt is a good percentage but still would like to promote people to avoid bare rechecks14:29
whoami-rajatcheck the job that is failing14:29
whoami-rajatcheck the logs why it's failing14:29
whoami-rajatrecheck providing the reason of failure14:29
whoami-rajateven if the failure is unrelated to your patch, if it's reoccuring in gate, we can report a bug for it and try to fix it14:29
whoami-rajats/reoccuring/recurring14:30
whoami-rajatnext, RBAC discussion at PTG14:31
whoami-rajat#link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/DUNYNB2AVKAZBYLIZDZUWZ4622QSIRNO/14:32
whoami-rajat#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/rbac-2024.2-ptg14:32
whoami-rajatthere will be a RBAC discussion during PTG, if you are interested in attending it, here are the details14:32
whoami-rajatFolsom, Tuesday, April 9 15:00 UTC - 16:00 UTC14:32
toskyooooh, so maybe we can have those cinder-tempest-plugin reviewed and merged in time for that :D14:32
whoami-rajathopefully someone would be excited enough to review them :D14:33
whoami-rajatlast announcement, Upcoming Deadlines & Dates14:34
whoami-rajatFinal RC deadline: March 28th, 2024 (R-1 week)14:34
whoami-rajatFinal 2024.1 Caracal release: April 3rd, 202414:34
whoami-rajatDalmatian PTG: April 8-12, 202414:34
whoami-rajatthat's all we had for announcements14:34
whoami-rajatanything else in the community news that i might have missed?14:35
rosmaitatc election polling ends in 5.5 hours14:36
whoami-rajatoh right14:36
whoami-rajathere are the steps14:36
whoami-rajatGo to https://civs1.civs.us/cgi-bin/opt_in.pl14:36
whoami-rajatRequest Activation link and enter the code received on your registered email address14:36
whoami-rajatYou will receive an email with the subject "Poll: OpenStack 2024.2 Cycle Technical Committee Election Poll"14:36
whoami-rajatThere are 7 TC proposals that you can arrange in order or preference14:36
whoami-rajats/or/of14:36
whoami-rajatif that's all we can move to topics14:38
whoami-rajat#topic Pypi maintainers cleanup14:38
whoami-rajat#link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/64IDNMRS6AUC7T3NBAHF3A7RUCXZUFAG/14:38
whoami-rajatWe have already done this and just for an update14:38
whoami-rajatFor Cinder, we have 7 repos out of which 5 have been cleaned up. The ones that require cleanup are:14:38
whoami-rajatos-brick Maintainer: thingee (Mike Perez)14:39
whoami-rajatpython-brick-cinderclient-ext Maintainer: e0ne (Ivan Kolodyazhny)14:39
whoami-rajatThey haven't been active for years and I tried reaching out to the maintainers but they haven't responded so we can safely remove them from the maintainers list.14:39
whoami-rajatthat was my reply to TC, hopefully we won't have any concerns from Mike or Ivan if they show up14:40
whoami-rajatand that's all for this topic14:40
jungleboyj++14:41
whoami-rajatIIRC the general idea was to just keep only openstackci as the maintainer of projects so individual contributors cannot do releases outside of the standard openstack release model14:42
whoami-rajatwhich was happening for some project ^14:42
whoami-rajatnow that was all (really)14:42
whoami-rajatmoving on to the next topic14:43
whoami-rajat#topic Missing indexes in backups database table14:43
whoami-rajat#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/204839614:43
whoami-rajatcrohmann, that's you14:43
crohmannThis is a bug about the lack of any DB indices in the backups table. Since the "C" release is coming up and schema changes only coming with releases I wanted to nag about this once more14:44
whoami-rajatokay, we don't have a patch up for that as of now right?14:47
whoami-rajatalso i think schema changes will be again part of 2024.2 release since master is Dalmatian now14:47
eharneyright -- is there any chance this would be landed in Caracal at this point?14:47
crohmannThat is really unfortunate.14:48
whoami-rajatnope, i don't think so14:48
whoami-rajatwe cannot backport DB schema related changes or migrations14:48
crohmannThat is why I was nagging about this a few weeklys.14:49
whoami-rajatas i can see, there is another topic about re-submission of a spec14:52
crohmannSo adding indices is not something that could happing in RCs anymore as the "db sync" might not be run on the install?14:52
whoami-rajatthe master is 2024.2 and we cannot backport any schema related changes so even if we merge the patch it will part of 2024.2 and cannot be backported to 2024.114:54
crohmannright. eharney could we maybe work together on getting this done on master then?14:54
crohmannYes whoami-rajat. That spec is about moving the backup status out of the volume status. This was already merged, but for another release (2023.02).14:56
crohmannI just wanted to know if it makes sense to re-submit this for the next release.14:56
whoami-rajatif there is bandwidth to implement it, do we have any volunteers for it?14:56
whoami-rajatelse i think we have an untargeted folder where we can move this spec, is my understanding correct rosmaita ?14:57
rosmaitayes14:57
whoami-rajatgreat14:58
crohmannsee https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2024/cinder.2024-01-03-14.00.log.html#l-3714:58
crohmannjon and happystacker were apparently interested14:58
whoami-rajatI don't see Jon around, happystacker are you interested in implementing this feature in the next cycle?14:59
happystackerunfortunately I'm busing as hell on other activities for the next couple of months14:59
crohmannEven if someone or myself were to write the patch ... there needs to be review bandwidth.15:00
crohmannWriting this big of a patch and not getting any feedback / review has the potential to be somewhat frustrating. 15:01
whoami-rajatwe might have a new core by next week and Jon might have good strategies for getting changes in on time15:02
whoami-rajatbut i cannot guarantee that15:02
whoami-rajatanyways, we are out of time15:02
whoami-rajatthanks everyone for attending15:02
whoami-rajatwe can continue the discussion on cinder channel15:02
whoami-rajat#endmeeting15:02
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jungleboyjThank you!15:03
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