Wednesday, 2024-02-28

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opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Feb 28 14:00:18 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is whoami-rajat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
opendevmeetUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'14:00
whoami-rajat#topic roll call14:00
whoami-rajattoday's meeting is in video+IRC format https://meet.google.com/xqc-ekpa-dao14:01
jayaanandhi14:01
crohmanno/14:01
rosmaitao/14:02
akawaio/14:02
kgubeo/14:03
whoami-rajathello everyone14:04
whoami-rajat#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-caracal-meetings14:04
whoami-rajat#topic announcements14:05
whoami-rajatfirst, Jon Bernard stepped up to be the 2024.2 PTL!14:05
whoami-rajat#link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/Q54EYAWNYVVOBZKIVFWDMKDONOMJAH4V/14:05
whoami-rajat#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/91002414:05
whoami-rajatnext, os-brick 6.7.0 for 2024.1 (caracal) released14:06
whoami-rajat#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/90940014:07
whoami-rajatUpcoming Deadlines & Dates14:12
whoami-rajatCaracal-3 milestone (feature freeze): February 29th, 2024 (R-5 week)14:12
whoami-rajatCycle Highlights Due: March 7th, 2024 (R-4 week)14:12
whoami-rajatRC1 deadline: March 14, 2024 (R-3 week)14:12
whoami-rajatFinal RC deadline: March 28, 2024 (R-1 week)14:12
whoami-rajat2024.1 Caracal final release: April 3rd, 202414:12
whoami-rajatDalmatian PTG: April 8-12, 202414:12
whoami-rajat#link https://lists.openstack.org/archives/list/openstack-discuss@lists.openstack.org/thread/KWT45CP6MPRCYUKLLZ3KOSYJCYI7FN4Z/14:12
whoami-rajat#topic Review request guidelines not being honoured14:14
crohmannI responded to that one as I feel my list of review requests caused this reminder.14:16
whoami-rajatno, i was just mentioning this in the video meeting that it was a general observation, multiple driver vendors had added multiple patches and irrespective of the deadline14:17
whoami-rajati was just looking at past couple of week's request section and made the observation, also it's just a reminder for efficient review request14:17
whoami-rajatwhich would benefit the author as well as reviewer14:17
whoami-rajat#topic Feature Freeze and cinderclient release14:18
crohmannsorry, for not being int he video call today. I wrote a few lines about my motivation. I believe an efficient review process should be a future topic.14:18
crohmannIs there a goal to deprecate the cinderclient in favor of OpenStack client / SDK?14:21
akawaiHPE XP HA patch supports active-standby only, not support active-active.14:25
whoami-rajatcrohmann, we don't have a plan of doing that, we still have support missing in SDK14:32
whoami-rajat#topic open discussion14:32
crohmannIs anybody interested to help me with the Ceph caps https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/2051244 ?14:33
crohmannwhoami-rajat: I suppose the linked google doc with the regard osc parity is still current? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yetPti2XImRnOXvvJH48yQogdKDzRWDl-NYbjTF67Gg/edit#gid=146366072914:36
whoami-rajati think eharney mentioned he will take a look, maybe you can contact him directly14:36
crohmannWill do. THX eharney.14:36
whoami-rajatcrohmann, i haven't updated it in quite a while, i will provide another docs link14:37
whoami-rajatcrohmann, this contains the work items https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XUFsOnVBxo6sCvF9tSwPFfwMd0COEbeUF7yndRL92i4/edit14:39
crohmannawesome, thx whoami-rajat. Does it make sense to convert this doc to a set of bugs? This makes it more approachble for part-time contributor to pick one or two missing features. Or do you rather want to tackle this in a bug push somehow?14:41
whoami-rajatcrohmann, osc and sdk bugs are tracked on storyboard14:42
whoami-rajati think we can create a story and add tasks to it14:42
whoami-rajateach task associated to a particular command14:42
crohmannI know. But are all those missing "features" tracked there?14:42
whoami-rajatnot yet14:42
whoami-rajatit was planned to be done by some outreachy intern but we haven't been getting any lately14:43
whoami-rajatbut +1 to move them to storyboard as tasks14:43
crohmannI mean it look (!) like 200 clicks to add a task for each line ... but it might make more sense to cluster them with some insight knowledge, right?14:44
whoami-rajatsorry, i don't understand14:45
whoami-rajats/don't/didn't14:46
crohmannLooking at the Google doc it appears this is an easy ask (I'd take it), but clustering a few commands into a task (knowning the inner workings of cinder) might make sense14:47
whoami-rajatthey're already clustered, aren't they? I've grouped them based on the APIs, like attachments, snapshot, volumes etc.14:48
whoami-rajatI'm happy to help but I've stopped working on it since this cycle due to other priorities14:48
whoami-rajatso I'm okay if anyone else would like to drive this effort14:48
crohmannI was just worried that the target of replacing cinderclient is moving (away) with more changes going into cinderclient. Once parity is achieved there will only be one codebase to maintain for clients.14:50
crohmannIf you like I gladly convert the document to a story on the storyboard.14:51
whoami-rajatthat was the original intent, we've asked contributors to propose patches for cinderclient as well as OSC/SDK14:51
whoami-rajatalso new CLI options are not accepted in cinderclient14:51
whoami-rajatthere was one patch recently merged though14:51
crohmannYeah, that kinda triggered me ;-)14:52
whoami-rajatkgube, do you have a SDK alternative for the cinderclient change?14:52
whoami-rajati think nova is also interested in calling SDK rather than cinderclient for API calls14:52
kgubewhoami-rajat, I actually did write one sometime last year, but I never pushed it14:53
whoami-rajatkgube, oh okay, would be great if you added that and i can review since cinder cores have +2 rights in osc and sdk14:54
kgubeI can try to rebase it and make a change for it14:54
whoami-rajatgreat thanks14:54
whoami-rajatand thanks crohmann for mentioning it14:54
whoami-rajatwe've 4 minutes left, anything else for open discussion?14:56
whoami-rajati think that's all for today14:57
whoami-rajatthanks for joining14:57
whoami-rajat#endmeeting14:57
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