Thursday, 2023-07-27

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Thu Jul 27 15:00:30 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
gouthamr#chair carloss15:00
opendevmeetCurrent chairs: carloss gouthamr15:00
vhari_o/15:00
thiagoalvoravelo/15:01
nahimsouza[m]o/15:01
gouthamrcourtesy ping: vkmc dviroel felipe_rodrigues carthaca15:01
felipe_rodrigueso/15:01
helenadantas[m]o/15:01
gouthamrhello everyone o/ 15:01
gouthamri started this here, but carloss will take over in a bit15:02
gouthamrhere's our agenda for today:15:02
gouthamr#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_Meeting 15:02
kpdevo/15:02
gouthamrlet's get started15:03
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:03
gouthamrwe're at a milestone on our release schedule15:03
gouthamr#link https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html15:03
gouthamrManila's New Driver Deadline is tomorrow15:03
gouthamrwe have a couple of new drivers proposed:15:04
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/880527 (Adds a new Manila driver for Dell PowerFlex storage backend)15:04
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/885974 (Adds a new Manila driver for Dell PowerStore storage backend)15:04
gouthamrboth are in a good shape according to our expectations - i.e., they seem complete and they have passing CI systems on the respective changes15:04
gouthamrthey're getting some review attention, thank you! i'd like to encourage some more at these patches...15:05
carlossthanks gouthamr :D15:05
gouthamron to the next one:15:06
gouthamrwe're beginning to plan the next Project Teams Gathering event15:06
gouthamrit's going to a virtual one, and slated for Oct 23-2715:07
gouthamr#link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-July/034363.html15:07
gouthamrthe event is now open for registrations ^; so please sign up :) 15:07
gouthamr#link http://ptg2023.openinfra.dev/ (PTG registration) 15:07
gouthamrmilestones and the calendar for the next release (Caracal/2024.1) is also being drafted atm:15:09
gouthamr#link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-July/034555.html 15:09
carlossthanks for starting the meeting and going over announcements gouthamr :D15:10
carlossas soon as it merges, I'll be proposing the manila-specific deadlines and sharing it with you15:11
carlossso we can gather everyone's feedback on it15:11
carlossI think that's all we had for announcements15:12
carlossis there an announcement you would like to share with us today?15:12
* carloss taking silence as no15:14
carloss#topic Review focus15:14
carloss#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bobcat-review-focus15:14
gireesho/15:15
* carloss o/ gireesh 15:16
carlosswe are approaching feature proposal freeze, which means that all featureful changes should be proposed to gerrit by the end of the next week15:16
carlossit should have unit and functional tests in place15:17
carlossso please add your changes to the review focus etherpad I just linked15:17
carlossI think for the features we already have patches proposed so far are in a good shape (have unit and functional tests and they mostly work)15:18
carlossfelipe_rodrigues: are the Scheduler changes coming in this cycle?15:18
felipe_rodriguesyes.. Iwill submit soon15:21
carlossokay, thanks!15:21
carlossso we will have a huge amount of code to review this cycle15:22
carlossthe more reviews the merrier... we can work with assignments15:22
carlossplease don't hesitate to schedule collaborative review sessions... they have proven to be very useful and it makes it easier for the reviewers to understand the changes you are proposing15:23
gouthamr++15:25
carlosswe are currently putting some effort in reviewing share backups changes, which are looking in a good shape, and we are figuring out how to get them tested with tempest15:25
carlossbut we could use some eyes in the new Dell drivers too... kpdev can I have your eyes on the new driver additions?15:26
kpdevsure15:26
carlossNetAppers: you're more than welcome to share your feedback too :)15:26
carlossthanks kpdev 15:26
carlossthat's all I have wrt $topic15:27
carlossdo you have something you would like to bring up?15:27
msaravanSure, will do !! 15:27
carlossthanks msaravan :)15:29
carlosson to the next topic...15:30
carloss#topic Bug Triage (vhari)15:30
carloss#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad)15:31
vharihi everyone :)15:31
carlosso/ vhari 15:31
vharilet's dive into the new bug due for minor triage15:31
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2028642 15:31
carlossthis feels more like an RFE, but if I'm not mistaken, not all share servers were automatically deleted after the migration complete15:33
gouthamrthis is an RFE that goes against my old argument of trusting manila to do the cleanups 15:33
vharithis is more of an improvement 15:33
gouthamrchuanm says he'd like to rollback, but wouldn't that be an entirely manual process after a cutover?15:34
carloss#link https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/master/manila/share/manager.py#L5823-L583915:35
carlossyeah, it is being delete immediately only when the share server is reused, aka nondisruptive migration15:35
carlossin other scenarios, we set it to inactive and leave it to the manila routine15:36
gouthamrah15:36
carloss> chuanm says he'd like to rollback, but wouldn't that be an entirely manual process after a cutover?15:36
carlossyeah, it would... even if Manila found the old share server, we couldn't be sure it would be the one picked up for the rollback15:36
gouthamrif a share server was migrated nondisruptively, wouldn't it mean that the move has happened in the storage system; and a rollback would really be a different migration?15:37
carloss^ this15:38
carloss^ yes*15:38
carlosskeeping the share server in the source would feel more like a replication15:38
carlossreplication with an "expiration" date, based on the request15:39
gouthamrso i wonder if chaunm is looking for the reference in manila to be retained .. perhaps we should ask how he'd do a rollback 15:40
gouthamrand how this manila ref would be useful in the process15:40
carlossyeah15:40
carlossmaybe he'd just reset the status of the share server? then it wouldn't be picked up by the cleanup share servers15:41
carlosslet's ask him that question :)15:41
vharicarloss, will do 15:42
vhariany other considerations for this bug?15:43
carlossoh, thanks vhari :) - had the comment almost ready15:43
vharik carloss 15:43
vhariso that the bottom of bugs for today 15:43
carlosstyvm vhari :)15:44
vharias always..  thanks for pitching in 15:44
vhariyw carloss :)15:44
carloss#topic Open Discussion15:45
carlossit's been a while :D15:46
gouthamrhaha, i've one topic that's not about bears15:46
carloss:O15:46
gouthamri'd like to schedule a collab review for the resource locks patches15:46
* carloss was about to ask gouthamr how's the Katmai bear season going15:46
gouthamrwould anyone have a time/date preference? 15:47
gouthamroh they're feeding and fattening up well carloss: https://explore.org/livecams/brown-bears/brown-bear-salmon-cam-brooks-falls?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu5OlhZ6vgAMVfAytBh1BfAZgEAAYASAAEgI4yvD_BwE 15:47
carlossTuesdays and Wednesdays are the busiest days for me, but I can fit a session for sure15:47
gouthamrack; we can do thursday, with an overlap to this meeting, if it works? 15:48
carlossyeah, that works :)15:48
vharigouthamr++15:49
carlossgreat idea gouthamr - perhaps I should do one for the access restrict changes too after yours, as it uses the locks changes you're implementing15:49
carlossgouthamr++15:49
gouthamr^ thought we'd do it together carloss15:49
carlossah, sure15:49
gouthamrunless it is more digestible in separate sessions 15:50
gouthamrwe can take an ad hoc call 15:50
carlossI think we can cover it together15:51
gouthamrack15:53
gouthamrlets plan and send info over to the ML 15:53
carlossack, thanks!15:53
carlossgouthamr++15:54
carlossanything else to bring up in this call?15:55
carlosss/call/meeting :)15:55
carlossgoing once...15:56
carlossthank you for joining! let's get back to #openstack-manila15:56
carloss#endmeeting15:57
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