| carloss | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Jul 6 15:00:12 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is carloss. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
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| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:00 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:00 |
| carloss | courtesy ping: vkmc dviroel felipe_rodrigues vhari carthaca | 15:00 |
| felipe_rodrigues | o/ | 15:00 |
| carthaca | hi | 15:00 |
| helenadantas[m] | o/ | 15:00 |
| MatheusAndrade[m] | o/ | 15:01 |
| ashrodri | o/ | 15:01 |
| thiagoalvoravel | o/ | 15:01 |
| haixin | o/ | 15:01 |
| caiquemello[m] | o/ | 15:04 |
| carloss | hello everyone | 15:04 |
| vhari | o/ | 15:04 |
| carloss | and welcome! | 15:04 |
| carloss | back to the regular meeting | 15:04 |
| carloss | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:04 |
| carloss | thank you for everyone that participated in the last week's collab review | 15:04 |
| carloss | and thanks kpdev for walking us through your changes | 15:05 |
| carloss | I'm working with felipe_rodrigues to upload the recordings to youtube, but I think we'll get this done soon | 15:05 |
| carloss | first topic of today's meeting | 15:06 |
| carloss | #topic Announcements | 15:06 |
| carloss | Schedule and Deadlines: | 15:06 |
| carloss | #link https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html | 15:06 |
| carloss | this is m-2 week! so if you have a change ready to go and you're targeting it for this week, please let me know | 15:07 |
| carloss | we are looking to have this change merged: | 15:08 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/python-manilaclient/+/869709 | 15:08 |
| carloss | felipe_rodrigues and I chatted and he is working on an updated patch :) | 15:08 |
| carloss | last week was spec freeze and as I mentioned, I think we'd be okay if that deadline was pushed by one week | 15:09 |
| carloss | two out of the three candidate specs have already merged: | 15:09 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/881894 | 15:09 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/881187 | 15:09 |
| carloss | gouthamr felipe_rodrigues: thank you for following up on the spec and good job! | 15:09 |
| carloss | we have another spec that we are still targeting for this week in progress: | 15:10 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila-specs/+/881934 | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | chiming in for the last one - i was mostly out since our last meeting here, and couldn't update that one -- but, i wanted to vastly simplify it | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | it might end up looking like a lite spec, and should be far less controversial.. | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | (no database changes for one) | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | i'm making the edits now, and can push this up asap - can i have an extension on this merge deadline to have some eyes on it? | 15:13 |
| carloss | gouthamr: sure | 15:13 |
| carloss | thanks for working on the updates | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | thank you; it should be up shortly! | 15:15 |
| carloss | gouthamr++ thanks! | 15:15 |
| carloss | next milestone to keep in mind (if you're a driver maintainer willing to have your driver merged during this release) is https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html#b-manila-new-driver-deadline | 15:17 |
| carloss | we have one driver currently being worked on | 15:18 |
| carloss | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/880527 (Adds a new Manila driver for Dell PowerFlex storage backend) | 15:18 |
| carloss | feedback on it would be welcome | 15:19 |
| carloss | kpdev felipe_rodrigues caiquemello[m] (and netappers in general) - could you please take a look? | 15:19 |
| felipe_rodrigues | sure | 15:19 |
| carloss | thanks felipe_rodrigues | 15:19 |
| caiquemello[m] | yeap | 15:20 |
| kpdev | ok | 15:20 |
| carloss | that's all I had for announcements. Is there something you would like to share with us today? | 15:20 |
| * carloss taking silence as no | 15:22 | |
| carloss | #topic Review focus | 15:22 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bobcat-review-focus#L18 | 15:23 |
| carloss | there are a couple of changes under m-2, but I think most of them will be actually m-3 | 15:23 |
| carloss | but I think this reflects our moment | 15:24 |
| carloss | in terms of what to focus | 15:24 |
| * carloss adds https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/manila/+/887078 to the list | 15:26 | |
| carloss | that's all I had for review focus - is there a change you'd like to bring to our attention now? | 15:30 |
| * carloss takes silence as no | 15:31 | |
| carloss | #topic Bug Triage (vhari) | 15:31 |
| carloss | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new | 15:31 |
| carloss | vhari: floor is yours :) | 15:32 |
| vhari | ty carloss :) | 15:32 |
| vhari | we have a few bugs to triage today .. starting with #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2025075 | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | i like chaunm's suggestion on how this can be handled in the API - feels like a low-hanging-fruit | 15:35 |
| carloss | gouthamr++ | 15:35 |
| vhari | ack, and an enhancement request | 15:35 |
| vhari | can we assign importance and other triage fields at this time? | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | medium? we need an assignee if we need a target milestone | 15:37 |
| carloss | medium sounds right | 15:37 |
| felipe_rodrigues | if you think about the scripting I'd say medium | 15:37 |
| felipe_rodrigues | it breaks the script logic | 15:38 |
| carloss | felipe_rodrigues: are you aware of someone in the netapp team that would benefit from learning some API code? :) | 15:38 |
| felipe_rodrigues | I think so! | 15:38 |
| felipe_rodrigues | you could assign it to helenadantas[m] | 15:39 |
| carloss | usually writing API code is fun, and easy to test, it's good to have this experience | 15:39 |
| carloss | thanks felipe_rodrigues | 15:40 |
| felipe_rodrigues | are you confortable, helenadantas[m] ? | 15:40 |
| felipe_rodrigues | it probably requires some sleep on the code.. there is a small window where the bug occurs.. for dev env, probably we might not catch it easily | 15:41 |
| helenadantas[m] | felipe_rodrigues: yes | 15:42 |
| caiquemello[m] | helenadantas: ++ | 15:42 |
| carloss | helenadantas[m]++ | 15:42 |
| vhari | helenadantas[m]++ | 15:42 |
| carloss | tyvm felipe_rodrigues helenadantas[m] - please feel free to ping in case you have questions | 15:42 |
| helenadantas[m] | carloss: ok | 15:42 |
| vhari | up next #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/2025641 | 15:43 |
| carloss | hmm, sounds like it's not that difficult to reproduce | 15:46 |
| carloss | "All happened within 15 minutes (part of a CI/CD) after share create" | 15:46 |
| carloss | carthaca: have you seen this in production? | 15:46 |
| carthaca | yes, sadly in production - it was not caught by our own ci, but by one of our customers | 15:48 |
| carloss | :/ | 15:48 |
| carloss | felipe_rodrigues: can we have one of the netappers working on this? | 15:49 |
| felipe_rodrigues | I'm taking this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1960239 | 15:49 |
| carthaca | most of the time, our tests don't put data on the shares - lesson learned here | 15:50 |
| felipe_rodrigues | they are very similar issue.. I think the idea was the deferred deletion as a solution.. The new bug claims that this option won't work, though.. am I right ? | 15:50 |
| carthaca | ack | 15:51 |
| felipe_rodrigues | Nice.. I can take both, since they seem very similar.. we can try a similar approach | 15:52 |
| carloss | thanks felipe_rodrigues | 15:52 |
| carthaca | It does not have to rename, there can be other creative ways of bookkeeping to be deleted entities | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | is this the one where we discussed an implementation for deferred deletion driven by the share manager? | 15:52 |
| felipe_rodrigues | yeap | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | i.e., start deleting, return and periodically check for the deletion to have gone through? | 15:53 |
| felipe_rodrigues | yeap.. the problem is that carthaca mentioned that we cannot rename busy volumes/snapshots | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | ack; if you can add some other kind of marker directly on the backend - it'd be great; else, you have driver private data | 15:56 |
| felipe_rodrigues | driver private data may work.. let's see during the implementation | 15:58 |
| felipe_rodrigues | can we implement it without an approved spec ? | 15:58 |
| carthaca | yeah, my orphan detection would like some marker :) else it would complain: 'this volume looks like a manila share, but manila does not know about it' | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | > can we implement it without an approved spec ? --- no | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | > yeah, my orphan detection would like some marker 😊 --- agree | 15:59 |
| * carloss time check | 16:00 | |
| gouthamr | > can we implement it without an approved spec ? --- ugh, i mean, this is simple enough and doesn't need a spec imo | 16:00 |
| vhari | felipe_rodrigues++ gouthamr++ carthaca++ | 16:01 |
| carloss | > this is simple enough and doesn't need a spec imo | 16:01 |
| carloss | ++ | 16:01 |
| felipe_rodrigues | nice.. let's write one spec.. thank you | 16:01 |
| carloss | thanks for the bug reports carthaca chuanm | 16:02 |
| carloss | so, medium - felipe_rodrigues as an assignee - m-3 | 16:02 |
| * carloss wrapping up | 16:02 | |
| felipe_rodrigues | I think m-3 is not possible | 16:02 |
| felipe_rodrigues | since we need to approve the spec earlier | 16:02 |
| felipe_rodrigues | right ? | 16:02 |
| carloss | I think we won't need a spec | 16:03 |
| carloss | :D | 16:03 |
| carloss | I think that's gouthamr's feeling as well | 16:03 |
| carloss | "--- ugh, i mean, this is simple enough and doesn't need a spec imo" | 16:03 |
| carloss | let's continue on #openstack-manila | 16:03 |
| carloss | thank you for joining this meeting! | 16:03 |
| vhari | felipe_rodrigues, assigned m-3, pls feel free to revise as needed | 16:03 |
| carloss | felipe_rodrigues:++ thanks for working on this | 16:04 |
| carloss | #endmeeting | 16:04 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Jul 6 16:04:13 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:04 |
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