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| whoami-rajat | #startmeeting cinder | 14:01 |
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| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Apr 12 14:01:02 2023 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is whoami-rajat. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 14:01 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic roll call | 14:01 |
| tosky | o/ | 14:01 |
| eharney | hello | 14:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 14:01 |
| nahimsouza[m] | o/ | 14:01 |
| kgube | o/ | 14:01 |
| caiquemello[m] | hi | 14:02 |
| simondodsley | o/ | 14:02 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-bobcat-meetings | 14:03 |
| HelenaDantas[m] | hi | 14:03 |
| luizsantos[m] | o/ | 14:04 |
| whoami-rajat | hello everyone | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | let's get started | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic announcements | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | first, 2023.2 Bobcat PTG summary | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | the summary is ready now, you can see it on the wiki page | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderBobcatPTGSummary | 14:05 |
| whoami-rajat | do check out the relevant topics and action items that are assigned to you | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | next, 2023.2 Bobcat Cinder specific schedule | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | I proposed the cinder specific schedule for 2023.2 and it is also merged | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://releases.openstack.org/bobcat/schedule.html#cinder | 14:06 |
| whoami-rajat | you can check out cinder related deadlines on the page | 14:07 |
| whoami-rajat | if you scroll up, you will also see the deadlines date wise | 14:07 |
| whoami-rajat | in the Project-specific events section | 14:07 |
| whoami-rajat | one thing related to the schedule is, we conduct 2 midcycles | 14:08 |
| whoami-rajat | for midcycle-1, I've proposed the date 31 May 2023, does it work for everyone? | 14:08 |
| whoami-rajat | it's 2 weeks before spec freeze and 4 weeks before driver merge deadline | 14:09 |
| rosmaita | looks like there are no holidays anywhere on that day | 14:09 |
| whoami-rajat | so it will act as a good checkpoint (according to me) | 14:09 |
| whoami-rajat | great | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | let me know if anyone still has issues/conflicts and we can discuss again | 14:10 |
| whoami-rajat | so, coming to midcycle-2 | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | I haven't added it to the schedule since it's far away and we might have conflicts | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | but i have two good date candidates for it | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | 1) 02 August, 2023 -- week of Cinder New Feature Status Checkpoint (4 weeks from M3) | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | 2) 09 August, 2023 -- week of Cinder Driver Features Declaration (3 weeks from M3) | 14:11 |
| whoami-rajat | I can bring this up again later but just letting the team know we've a choice between the two dates | 14:13 |
| whoami-rajat | whichever suits the majority | 14:13 |
| simondodsley | either are fine for me | 14:14 |
| whoami-rajat | cool | 14:15 |
| whoami-rajat | this is a far fetched date so let's discuss this in 1 month but for safe bet, I will go with 2nd August as default | 14:16 |
| whoami-rajat | next, Xena EM on 20th April | 14:16 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/878882 | 14:16 |
| whoami-rajat | so we've entered 2023.2 Bobcat cycle and it's time to move the last active stable branch to EM | 14:17 |
| whoami-rajat | which is Xena | 14:17 |
| whoami-rajat | we are planning to do a final release before cutting the EM branch | 14:17 |
| whoami-rajat | we still have some active patches in xena that i think we would like to get in | 14:17 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/dashboard/?title=Cinder+Stable+Release+Branches&foreach=%28project%3Aopenstack%2Fcinder+OR%0Aproject%3Aopenstack%2Fpython%2Dcinderclient+OR%0Aproject%3Aopenstack%2Fos%2Dbrick+OR%0Aproject%3Aopenstack%2Fcinderlib+OR%0Aproject%3Aopenstack%2Fpython%2Dbrick%2Dcinderclient%2Dext%29%0Astatus%3Aopen&2023.1=branch%3A%5Estable%2F2023.1&Zed=branch%3A%5Estable%2Fzed&Yoga=branch%3A%5Estable%2Fyoga&Xena=branch%3A | 14:17 |
| whoami-rajat | %5Estable%2Fxena | 14:17 |
| whoami-rajat | ok, you can go to the etherpad for the link | 14:18 |
| whoami-rajat | there is one patch i would like to get into the final xena release which is the multiattach fix we did last cycle | 14:19 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/874865 | 14:19 |
| whoami-rajat | once the backports are proposed, I would need one more core to assist me in merging this | 14:20 |
| rosmaita | i can do that | 14:20 |
| whoami-rajat | great, thanks! | 14:21 |
| whoami-rajat | will ping you once the backports are ready :D | 14:21 |
| whoami-rajat | so stable cores, please focus on the xena open patches | 14:22 |
| whoami-rajat | and if anyone wants their patch to be included in the final release, please start the backport process | 14:22 |
| whoami-rajat | moving on to the final announcement | 14:22 |
| whoami-rajat | In person PTG team list | 14:22 |
| whoami-rajat | #link https://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2023-April/033291.html | 14:22 |
| whoami-rajat | you can find the list of teams going to visit the Vancouver PTG in June | 14:23 |
| whoami-rajat | that's all the announcements I had, anyone would like to add anything? | 14:24 |
| whoami-rajat | guess not, let's move to topics! | 14:25 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic PTG follow-up: EOL rocky and stein | 14:25 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, that's you | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | hi | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | i was reading the PTG summary and noticed that there's the action item about proposing EOL for rocky & stein to the mailing list | 14:26 |
| rosmaita | i put our proposal into an etherpad to make sure we agreed on how to express this before sending | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-EOL-rocky-stein | 14:27 |
| rosmaita | next question is, i thought whoami-rajat would send this out as PTL? | 14:28 |
| whoami-rajat | sorry i forgot about that before, I've added a minor correction and one comment on the etherpad regarding the increasing number of EM branches | 14:28 |
| rosmaita | i think about the EM branches, we can keep them as few as we want | 14:29 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, oh, I don't have any issue but you've already written the response so ... | 14:29 |
| whoami-rajat | yeah, right now there are 6 | 14:29 |
| whoami-rajat | after stein/rocky are gone there will be 4 | 14:30 |
| whoami-rajat | and after xena EM will be 5 | 14:30 |
| whoami-rajat | my concern basically is we EOL less frequently but EM branches every 6 months | 14:30 |
| whoami-rajat | so EM will keep on increasing unless we EOL timely | 14:30 |
| rosmaita | 3 is a better number, but once train is gone, no py2 (which is good or bad, depending on how you look at it) | 14:30 |
| whoami-rajat | 3 sounds good, 3 EM, 3 active stable, 1 development | 14:32 |
| rosmaita | i guess let's get rocky and stein closed first, then we can figure out what to do with t, u, v | 14:33 |
| whoami-rajat | you mean t, u because v, w, x will be EM? but yeah let's take one step at a time | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | ok | 14:35 |
| whoami-rajat | do you want me to send this out? I understand the reasoning but the mail coming from former PTL should be equally good enough | 14:35 |
| rosmaita | either way | 14:37 |
| rosmaita | the text says "we" so it should be clear enough that it's on behalf of the team | 14:37 |
| whoami-rajat | yes, ok, we can decide after the meeting | 14:38 |
| rosmaita | sounds like no one has any objections, so looks like it's good to go with your correction | 14:38 |
| whoami-rajat | and other people who were part of the PTG discussion, please take a look at the email since multiple people contributed to the points written in the email | 14:39 |
| whoami-rajat | works for me but still saying out loud ^ | 14:39 |
| simondodsley | looks ok to me | 14:40 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, if you're good with this, should we move to the next topic? | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | sure | 14:44 |
| whoami-rajat | cool | 14:44 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic Status of openstack-on-windows | 14:44 |
| whoami-rajat | rosmaita, that's you again | 14:44 |
| rosmaita | yeah, so cloudbase has pulled back on supporting openstack on windows | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | looking like the project will be retired | 14:45 |
| whoami-rajat | :( | 14:45 |
| rosmaita | we use os-win in a few places | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | but the big problem is that cloudbase ran all the windows CI | 14:46 |
| simondodsley | i wonder if Microsoft would be interested, especially as they have adopted OpenStack as a service offering for Telcos. | 14:46 |
| rosmaita | i wonder whether Microsoft is more interested in just having openstack be able to run windows VMs | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | not necessarily using hyperv for virtualization, i mean | 14:47 |
| rosmaita | at this point, i'm just bringing this up for awareness | 14:48 |
| simondodsley | i'd be interested in how many Hyper-V OpenStack deployments there are globally? | 14:48 |
| whoami-rajat | that would be great if they step in | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | 2% of openstack | 14:48 |
| rosmaita | (jamespage found that number during the TC meeting yesterday) | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | so it's a pretty small user base | 14:49 |
| simondodsley | but still disenfranchising a number of people | 14:49 |
| rosmaita | that's true | 14:50 |
| simondodsley | they should be canvassed to see if they are interested | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | so the plan is for the TC to publicize this and see if anyone cares | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | i guess we can bring it up with the Foundation, i think Microsoft has someone on the board | 14:50 |
| simondodsley | if it gets killed, do we have to remove all that os_win code from cinder and os_brick master branches? | 14:50 |
| rosmaita | i think nova will remove hyper-v support | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | we will probably have to remove it eventually as the library ages | 14:51 |
| rosmaita | i'm really sad to see the CI go away ... Lucien was really good about watching it and putting up patches when we did something that inadvertently broke openstack on windows | 14:52 |
| rosmaita | that's all from me | 14:53 |
| whoami-rajat | IIRC we stopped removing the in-tree drivers, we just mark them supported if their driver/CI isn't maintained | 14:53 |
| whoami-rajat | s/supported/unsupported | 14:54 |
| rosmaita | there are the drivers, but there's also some windows compatibility code in cinder | 14:55 |
| whoami-rajat | ok | 14:55 |
| whoami-rajat | pretty bad we've one less maintainer now | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | anyway, i like simon's idea to reach out to microsoft, i will ask the TC to do that | 14:56 |
| whoami-rajat | +1 | 14:56 |
| whoami-rajat | we've few minutes left, let's move to open discussion | 14:57 |
| whoami-rajat | #topic open discussion | 14:57 |
| inori | Excuse me, I'd like to bring attention in this patch here. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/847730 | 14:58 |
| inori | This patch is already have one +2, and I've added this patch into the review request. | 14:58 |
| inori | So could you please review it at your earliest convenience? | 14:59 |
| whoami-rajat | IIUC this is a feature and the priority of features (at least for me) is towards M-3 but that shouldn't stop anyone from reviewing merging these changes ^ | 15:00 |
| whoami-rajat | please take a look at the review request section | 15:00 |
| whoami-rajat | and we're out of time | 15:00 |
| whoami-rajat | thanks everyone for joining | 15:00 |
| whoami-rajat | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Apr 12 15:00:50 2023 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2023/cinder.2023-04-12-14.01.html | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2023/cinder.2023-04-12-14.01.txt | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/cinder/2023/cinder.2023-04-12-14.01.log.html | 15:00 |
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