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vkmc#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Apr 29 15:00:45 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vkmc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
carlosso/15:00
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tbarronhi15:00
dviroel|brbhi15:01
vkmccourtesy ping: ganso dviroel carloss tbarron felipe_rodrigues esantos vhari15:01
vkmc(not sure if this list is updated, I'll just believe it is)15:01
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vkmc#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:02
vkmc#topic announcements15:02
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carthacaHi15:03
vkmchi everyone :)15:03
vkmcI don't have any specific announcement to bring up15:03
vkmclast week was the PTG15:03
vkmc(which we will cover shortly)15:04
vkmcwe are officially in the week 3 of the xena release15:04
vkmc#link https://releases.openstack.org/xena/schedule.html15:04
vkmcleaving you the link to the schedule in case you want to take a peak on important dates15:04
vkmcnext milestone is the week of may 24th15:05
vkmcso, one month from now15:05
vkmcwhich seems really fast15:05
vkmcso worth mentioning it15:05
vkmcany comment or question on this?15:05
* vkmc stares at the screen for a couple of seconds15:06
* vhari stares back :)15:07
vkmcok :)15:07
vkmcI'll take that as a no15:07
vkmcso, next topic15:07
vkmc#topic PTG recap15:07
*** openstack changes topic to "PTG recap (Meeting topic: manila)"15:07
vkmcas mentioned, last week was the PTG week15:08
vkmclots of good sessions, as usual15:08
vkmca big shout out to our PTL for the great work on organizing leading us through this event15:08
vkmcorganizing and leading*15:08
tbarrongouthamr++15:09
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vkmcif you missed a session, you can watch the recording on our youtube channel15:09
carlossgouthamr++15:09
vharigouthamr++15:09
maaritammgouthamr++15:09
kiwi_36gouthamr++15:09
vkmc#link https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCnLeIR8V1Fl7ym1c7H3e0A/playlists15:09
vkmcthere is a playlist there for the xena ptg15:10
vkmcthat gouthamr crafted for us15:10
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vkmc(which is a lot of work, so, thanks so much gouthamr again for this)15:10
vkmcgouthamr++15:10
vkmcalso, you can check the etherpads15:10
vkmc#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/xena-ptg-manila15:11
vkmcthere are a lot of notes for each of the topics discussed that help to understand stuff :)15:12
vkmcin any case, next week we will send a summary to the openstack-discuss mailing list15:12
ecsantosgouthamr++15:12
vkmcwith the highlights of this ptg15:13
vkmcso, stay tuned!15:13
vkmclast but not least15:13
vkmcthanks *everyone* for joining and participating actively from last week ptg15:13
vkmcour meetings are awesome thanks to your contributions15:13
* vkmc sends karma points to all the zorillas 15:14
vkmcall right15:14
vkmcany comment or question on the ptg?15:15
vharivkmc++15:15
vkmcvery well15:16
vkmclet's jump to next topic...15:16
vkmc#topic bug triage (vhari)15:16
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vkmcI heard that bugs have been piling up15:16
vkmcis that true vhari?15:17
* vhari has an itty bitty list of bugs to triage .. rolling up sleeves!15:17
vharivkmc,  'was' true due to weeks of skips and other events15:17
vhariBUT we are down 6 thanks to everyone who pitched in with fixes in progress15:17
* vkmc puts face in hands 15:17
vharior submitted15:17
vkmc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new15:18
vhariso ready to dive in with the shorter list now15:18
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/192548615:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1925486 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Share replica create API does not allow to specify share network" [Undecided,New]15:18
vharimost of these bugs need minor triage ..15:18
* vkmc looks15:18
vkmcoki, this one seems have been reported by a long dated friend of us15:19
vkmccarthaca, ^15:19
carthacayep15:19
vkmcso I don't have history on why that parameter was removed15:20
vkmcbut seems like a big change in the api15:20
carlossthat's pretty useful I'd say15:20
carlossbut we would only be able to be switching subnets, right?15:20
carthacait was still experimental at that time, I think15:20
vkmcahh15:20
vkmcso... first we would need to understand why it was dropped15:22
carthacaImho it can be a whole new network. The target replica is on a new share server anyhow by definition because it is located on a different back end15:22
carlossyeah, makes sense... iirc, we'd need to require that both current and new share networks to contain a subnet in the same az15:23
carlossif that is the case...15:24
carlossso if it was dropped only because we weren't supporting replication with dhss=true as the bug says, I guess we could bring it back again15:25
vkmcok15:26
carlosswe'll only need to take a look in some validations andsome stuff to change in the APIs15:26
vkmcso it's feasible now15:26
carlossyeah, seems to be :)15:26
vkmccarthaca, were you planning to work on it or you just wanted to call it out as a requirement?15:27
carthacaI plan to work on it15:28
carthacanot sure if I will make it15:28
vkmclet's triage this one as confirmed and medium priority15:28
vkmccarthaca, cool15:28
carlosscarthaca ++ :)15:28
vkmccarthaca++15:28
vkmcwe can set the milestone to xena-2 and reschedule later, if that works for you15:29
vharixena-2 it is ..15:29
vkmcok, I set up those values15:29
vharinext up #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/192547515:30
openstackLaunchpad bug 1925475 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Manila API fails to handle policy issue logging when journal is used" [Undecided,New]15:30
vkmclooking15:30
vkmcseems related to the latest introduced policy changes15:30
vkmcso, we need to try to reproduce this one15:31
vkmcI think noonedeadpunk mentioned about this one last week on the manila channel15:32
vkmcI'll follow steps to try to reproduce and will triage this one15:32
vkmcafter this meeting15:33
vkmc(unless someone did this and have a confirmation already)15:33
vkmc(I don't think I'll be that lucky)15:33
vhari:) not today vkmc15:33
vkmcxD15:33
vkmcok15:33
vkmcso, let's jump to the next bug, I'll report my findings on the openstack-manila channel after this meeting15:34
vharik, vkmc++15:34
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/192533215:34
openstackLaunchpad bug 1925332 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "CephFS doesn't support subvolume group snapshots" [Undecided,New]15:34
vkmcthis one is easy15:34
vkmceasy to triage at least15:34
vkmcsetting this one to confirmed, medium priority15:35
vkmcI'll be working on this one15:35
vkmcand let's targed to xena-115:35
vkmcdone15:35
vharicool .. next15:35
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/192515315:35
openstackLaunchpad bug 1925153 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "netapp dr replica export location missing" [Medium,Confirmed]15:35
vkmcanother one from carthaca15:36
vkmcseems is partially triaged15:36
vkmccarthaca, carloss, thoughts? ^15:36
carthacathis is more a feature request - not sure15:36
carthacaI wanted some opinions if this may be valid to add15:37
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carlossyeah, I agree that it sounds more like a feature request15:38
dviroelif you want an export location, you will probably want to mount as readable15:39
vkmcso I read it's not strictly related to the netapp driver15:39
dviroelin this case, it will be a readable replica, right?15:39
carlossif people want to read this,  it sounds more like readable replicas...15:40
carthaca@vkmc: no this could affect all driver, but I only have experience with netapp15:40
carlossbut as per the bug report, seems that they don't want to read what's in the shares or mount them... is just something people would use to be one step ahead in case they need to promote the replica15:41
dviroeli see now15:41
dviroelyep15:41
carthacaI also thought, may this will be irrelevant soon and just go ahead and implement readable replicas for netapp, which seems straightforward15:41
carthaca*maybe15:42
carthacaon the other hand, drivers that cannot easily offer readable replicas and have dr replicas only may still want to add this15:43
carlossyeah15:45
vkmcok, so... being a feature request15:46
dviroeli would say that is a feature request, yes15:47
carlossyeah...15:47
vkmcand not being something specific to one driver15:47
vkmcbut rather, a new functionality offered by manila15:47
vkmcwould it make sense to create a spec?15:47
vkmcmaybe outline the problem with a bit of more detail15:48
vkmcand try to brainstorm on how this can be addressed15:48
dviroel+115:48
dviroelwe need to discuss if will not confuse users, that will see an export location, but won't be able to mount, something like that15:48
dviroelcan be a netapp feature only too, if readable replicas fulfil carthaca needs15:49
vkmcyep15:49
carloss+115:49
vkmceither a spec or a thread on the mailing list15:49
vkmcI guess we need a bit more of discussion15:49
vkmcor irc itself15:50
vharivkmc, cool   so if no other thoughts on this bug  .. it's  a wrap for bugs today15:50
vkmcoki, thanks vhari15:50
dviroelvhari++15:50
vharivkmc, yw, thanks all for pitching in15:50
carlossvhari ++15:50
vkmcok folks, we have 10 more minutes15:50
vkmcvhari++15:51
vkmcso let's open up for an open discussion now15:51
vkmc#topic open discussion15:51
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vkmcall right15:51
vkmcany other topic you want to bring up for today?15:52
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vkmcok15:53
vkmcI do have one last thing15:53
vkmcand is15:53
vkmccheck out review queues :D15:53
vkmcthere are several easy patch sets that are almost ready to get merged15:54
vkmcthat could use your feedback15:54
vkmcI have been checking python-manilaclient (several patches on the osc)15:54
vkmcmanila-ui15:54
vkmcso... if you have some cycles, it will be appreciated15:55
vkmcand with that15:55
vkmcwe can close for today15:55
vkmcyou get 5min back15:55
vkmcthanks everyone!15:55
vharivkmc++15:56
vkmco/15:56
vkmc#endmeeting15:56
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