Tuesday, 2021-03-16

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gagehugo#startmeeting openstack-helm15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 16 15:00:19 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'15:00
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda15:00
jinyuanliu\o15:01
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miniroyo/15:01
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gagehugo#topic PTG Timeslots15:05
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gagehugoThe next vPTG will be April 19th though 23rd15:06
gagehugoI will create an etherpad for potential topics15:06
gagehugobut we also need to pick some timeslots15:07
gagehugoDoes anyone have any suggestions?15:07
gagehugoMonday is reserved for SIGs, so anything Tue-Fri15:07
stevthedevI will be out of town the later part of that week15:07
miniroysame time as our current weekly should work for most everyone?15:07
gagehugoDo we just want 1 hour?15:08
gagehugoor longer?15:08
miniroywe can set aside 2 hours just in case we got rowdy again  :)15:09
stevthedevYeah, that sounds okay to me15:09
stevthedevDo we have a separate etherpad for the agenda?15:10
gagehugoNot yet, I will make one today15:10
gagehugoand post in #openstack-helm15:10
stevthedevThanks gage15:11
jinyuanliuThat sounds good15:12
gagehugo#topic Open Discussion15:14
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:14
gagehugoAnyone have anything else for this week?15:14
jinyuanliunothing15:15
stevthedevI've rebased this PS, if anyone wouldn't mind reviewing it again, thx https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm-infra/+/77991215:15
stevthedevOther than that, I am working on some other changes to the elasticsearch chart, and how it handles s3 & snapshots15:16
stevthedevI think there will be some impact to the current behavior / expected values structure15:16
stevthedevSo I'll make sure to bump the semver15:17
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gagehugook15:19
gagehugoalso15:21
gagehugoPlease subscribe to the openstack-discuss mailing list for updates15:21
gagehugohttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-discuss15:21
gagehugoThere's a lot of emails that come though, you can create a rule to filter out topics if you wish15:22
gagehugothanks everyone, have a good rest of the week15:26
gagehugo#endmeeting15:26
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"15:26
openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar 16 15:26:08 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:26
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2021/openstack_helm.2021-03-16-15.00.html15:26
stevthedevyou too15:26
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2021/openstack_helm.2021-03-16-15.00.txt15:26
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_helm/2021/openstack_helm.2021-03-16-15.00.log.html15:26
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knikolla#startmeeting keystone16:59
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar 16 16:59:51 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is knikolla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'16:59
knikollao/17:00
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knikollaIt’s that time of the year again, when clock changes17:00
knikollalbragstad, gagehugo: ping17:01
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lbragstadi'm double booked today - but i'll follow along the best i can17:02
knikolla#topic No PTL candidates for X cycle17:03
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knikollaNone of us stepped up to volunteer for the PTL position for the upcoming cycle17:03
knikollaI understand that we have other commitments and it’s hard to devote the time17:04
knikollaOne possibility is moving to a distributed leadership model https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20200803-distributed-project-leadership.html17:04
knikollaThis would require 3 liasons, release, infra, and security17:05
knikollaI can make a proposal to move us to that leadership model, but please, is someone is interested in taking over the PTL role, I highly encourage you to do so.17:06
knikollaThoughts?17:07
gagehugoI'm already stretched thin a bit between openstack-helm ptl and security sig chair, so I can't really devote more time to being another full-on PTL atm17:07
knikollaI understand. Will you still be able to act as the security liason?17:08
gagehugothe leadership model may be a good compromise17:08
gagehugoI should be able to17:09
knikollaI can continue acting as the release liaison17:09
knikollaFor running the weekly meetings, do you think we can move to a rotating chair model?17:10
gagehugoDo we still need to do weekly meetings?17:11
gagehugoor still do weekly meetings, but cancel the day before if the agenda is empty?17:12
knikollaRegular meetings, yes. I’m unsure about the required frequency.17:12
knikollaI’m okay with canceling them the day before if nothing on the agenda. I can program a bot, or something of the like, haha.17:13
bnemecFWIW, there was a proposal in Oslo to only meet every other week too.17:17
knikolla++, that works too17:18
gagehugoyeah, we're considering moving to less frequent with the security sig17:18
knikollabnemec: who runs the weekly meeting? Is it always one person or is it rotating?17:19
knikollaBiweekly*17:19
bnemecWe've had one person running most of our meetings since going DPL.17:19
bnemecHe was actually the one who proposed meeting less often.17:19
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bnemecWhich kind of means we have to meet less often since no one else is likely to run the meeting at this point. ;-)17:20
knikollaI am hoping for it to be more distributed than that, for us17:21
bnemecYeah, in practice Herve is functioning as PTL for us.17:22
knikollaHence why I want some form of rotation for the more exhausting/mundane tasks17:22
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knikollaWe obviously still all care about keystone to some extent17:23
gagehugoSo maybe DPL?17:28
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knikollaYes, as long as we can agree on the division of responsibilities, and for a form of rotation of some of them, if needed.17:29
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gagehugoWe're doing a PTG meeting right?17:35
knikollaYes, I’ll send a poll later today17:36
knikollaWith the time options17:36
gagehugocool17:37
knikollaIt’s going to be held from Monday, April 19 to Friday, April 2317:37
knikollaSo in a month17:37
knikollaWe can have a higher bandwidth conversation there with regards to PTL and DPL17:38
knikolla#topic Open Discussion17:39
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cmurphyi'm having deja vu on the zuul failure for this https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystone/+/76061517:40
cmurphywas that fixed somehow or did we remove the lower-constraints job for other branches?17:40
knikollaWe removed the lower-constraints17:41
gagehugohttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystone/+/77208417:42
cmurphyoops i guess that's on me to review17:43
gagehugolol17:44
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knikollaThanks all!17:52
knikolla#endmeeting17:52
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2021/keystone.2021-03-16-16.59.html17:52
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2021/keystone.2021-03-16-16.59.txt17:52
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2021/keystone.2021-03-16-16.59.log.html17:52
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