Tuesday, 2021-03-09

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knomuraCould someone please review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/77757814:21
knomuraI got the channel wrong.14:24
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gagehugo#startmeeting openstack-helm15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar  9 15:00:32 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_helm'15:00
gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda15:00
reddyo/15:00
sangeetGood Morning!15:00
jinyuanliu \o15:00
miniroy\o15:01
srwilkerso/15:01
* sophieh2020 \o15:02
stevthedevo/15:02
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gagehugoAlright let's get started15:04
gagehugo#topic Simplfied openstack deployment using helm315:04
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gagehugoportdirect: o/15:04
portdirecthey!15:05
portdirectso ive been working on a simplified lcm for openstack via helm15:05
portdirectthe repo is here: https://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can15:06
portdirectin summary it deploys a full stack (nova, neutron/ovs & heat) using rook as the storage backend15:07
portdirectthe control-plane is in a single k8s deployment15:07
portdirectrather than spread out15:07
portdirectwhich makes troubleshooting a bit easier15:07
portdirectcompared to osh - i think this model may be a good fit for edge and small deployments15:08
srwilkersi'm really liking the templating approach here15:08
portdirectand so was wondering if it would be possibble to make a branch in osh to house this?15:09
portdirectsrwilkers: i thought you would15:09
portdirectit basicly does everything in gotpl as variables, before finally rendering out15:10
portdirectwhich allows us to overlay at various stages15:10
portdirecteg:15:10
srwilkerscall me mad, but i find this much simpler to read and work with15:10
portdirecthttps://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can/blob/master/openstack/values.yaml#L90-L10715:10
sangeetSo the k8s will still be deployed as is done in AIO15:10
portdirectsangeet: yes!15:11
sangeetI like the approach15:11
portdirectthis would get you working openstack for a small (>50 nodes) deployment withL15:11
portdirect1) deploy k8s (eg minikube/aio/capi)15:11
lamtthis is the same approach as one used for airship/charts right?15:11
portdirect2) deploy rook15:11
portdirect3) deploy openstack chart15:11
portdirectlamt: its an evoultion of that - but the same core15:12
lamtah15:12
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portdirectthe biggest thing being the storing of default config files: https://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can/tree/master/openstack/files/defaults15:12
gagehugoI see there are default values for each service15:13
portdirectim still working on this, but should have it pushed within the next hour15:13
portdirectbut this uspports either in place templating, eg: https://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can/blob/master/openstack/files/defaults/nova/etc/nova/nova.conf#L1115:13
portdirector using the same format we have for osh:15:14
portdirecthttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MGTVlRec/15:14
portdirectwhich then lets us override via the values simpley15:14
portdirecthttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/6f1yfV4h/15:14
srwilkersi'd definitely like to see a branch set up for this - it's enticing15:16
gagehugowe can probably do a branch for this15:16
gagehugomaybe "edge" branch15:17
portdirectgagehugo: that would be great!15:17
srwilkersits so edgy15:17
portdirectif the commiunity is up for it - i could push this, and some gates soon as its up15:17
gagehugothat would be great15:18
lamtI think folks have been asking for helm3 support for awhile so this would be great15:18
srwilkersi'd give it a look over and sprinkle some reviews in15:18
portdirectsrwilkers: that would be great15:18
sangeet+115:19
srwilkershows it going, supporting both helm v2 and v3?15:20
srwilkersnot to derail too much, but curious given the comment15:20
stevthedevInteresting chart structure. Took me a bit to wrap my head around but that is pretty cool portdirect15:20
gagehugoit "works" with v2 and v315:21
portdirectstevthedev: yes - there are a few things i took from kustomise etc as inspriation15:21
portdirectwith the goal of making the charts/templates really easy to work with15:21
portdirectbut there are quite a few deltas from where we have been - using gotpl to render text15:22
jinyuanliui think for quite a long time, both V2 and V3 should coexist15:22
portdirectjinyuanliu: this works with both15:22
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portdirectthough i do recommend v3 - its got support, and also a better rendering engine15:22
miniroyhow easy would it be to "patch" with this, since everything is in a single deployment15:23
portdirectoh miniroy15:23
portdirectour pains with patching15:23
portdirectis why this thing exists :D15:24
miniroyI figure as much but felt like asking anyway  :)15:24
portdirectwhats here: https://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can/blob/master/openstack/templates/helpers/_template.tpl#L10-L16215:24
miniroysince I have never seen it mentioned or done15:24
portdirectwas originally the 'yaml slammer' that was discussed at the ptg a few years ago15:24
portdirectand it lets us over-ride every aspect of the rendered output if required15:25
srwilkersi was going to mention the yaml-slammer, but figured the reference would be lost on most15:25
portdirecteg, changing this to 'Always' https://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can/blob/master/openstack/templates/Deployment-openstack-layers/_glance.tpl#L915:26
portdirectcan either do it via the template itself15:26
miniroyI get the name, it looks pretty terrifying as-is15:26
portdirector can layer over it: https://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can/blob/master/openstack/values.yaml#L90-L9915:26
portdirectits actually pretty robust code15:26
srwilkersi mean, it's not as crazy as the daemonset overrides foo15:27
srwilkersso there's that15:27
portdirectas lamt pointed out - the airship charts repo has been using this for several months now, though as a 'latent' feature15:27
portdirectlamt: have we seen any issues?15:27
miniroyI am with stevthedev, it will take us mortals awhile to wrap our head around this15:27
lamtnope that structure works well, though I think we could use more documentation15:28
portdirectminiroy / stevthedev: it helps if you sit upside down - gotpl is a mind warp sometimes15:28
lamton how to provide the overrides - it is not obvious at first15:28
portdirectlamt: thats very fair - and is lacking atm15:28
lamtlol15:28
gagehugomore documentation is always good15:28
miniroyand a good yoga mat15:29
portdirectso - if we get a branch up, i can seed with code this week, and start on docs over the weekend15:29
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miniroyI do admit I at least like the concept15:29
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gagehugosure15:32
gagehugoportdirect: I'll see about getting a branch for this15:32
portdirectone other thing that id like to bring up15:32
portdirectis that u was using victoria images based on debian bullseye15:33
portdirectand needed to patch up loci a bit15:33
portdirecthttps://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can/blob/master/docker/openstack/build.sh#L9-L1915:33
portdirectcan someone take a look at this?15:33
sangeetI can15:34
gagehugoSeeing sed in a script is always comforting15:34
portdirectsangeet: that would be great15:34
portdirectgagehugo: thought youd like the 'quality' work there :D15:34
portdirectoh one more thing15:35
gagehugodo we have victoria images?15:35
portdirectits already e2e tls ;)15:35
portdirectgagehugo: i dont think so, one of the reasons i built some15:35
gagehugohmm ok15:36
lamtshould probably get all the images updated to the latest - is it W?15:36
gagehugoW is the soon to be released release15:36
lamtah thought that's released already15:36
gagehugothen it will be warrior princess15:37
lamtlol15:37
portdirectthe one thing this needs 'above' the osh images is in horizon: https://github.com/portdirect/openstack-in-a-can/blob/master/docker/openstack/build.sh#L11215:37
portdirecteverywhere else - the deps/profiles are cut back to match the loci defaults15:38
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portdirectthat was i had for now :)15:40
gagehugothanks portdirect, we can get a branch for this, it looks interesting15:41
gagehugo#topic Open Discussion/Reviews15:42
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion/Reviews (Meeting topic: openstack-helm)"15:42
gagehugoAnyone have anything they want to discuss or something they want reviewed?15:42
gagehugothanks everyone, have a good week15:45
gagehugo#endmeeting15:45
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*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"15:45
openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar  9 15:45:57 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:46
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knikolla#startmeeting keystone16:58
openstackMeeting started Tue Mar  9 16:58:48 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is knikolla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:58
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:58
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'16:58
knikollao/16:58
gagehugoo/16:59
lbragstado/17:02
knikolla#topic Last day to nominate yourself for PTL or TC17:02
*** openstack changes topic to "Last day to nominate yourself for PTL or TC (Meeting topic: keystone)"17:02
knikollaAs a reminder, the election nomination period ends today17:02
knikollaand I do not plan on running as Keystone PTL for the Xena cycle17:03
knikollaAs of yet, there are no candidates for the role of Keystone ptl17:04
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gagehugoknikolla: thanks for being PTL for the last couple releases!17:06
lbragstad++ thank you knikolla!17:06
knikollathank you all for sticking around and being a pleasure to work with :)17:07
knikolla#topic Open Discussion17:07
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gagehugoAre we having a vPTG?17:09
knikollaYeah, I think we should17:10
knikollaI'm going to sign us up17:10
knikollaAnd then just use as much or as little time as we need17:10
knikollaNot like we have to travel anywhere (unfortunately)17:11
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gagehugosounds good17:11
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knikollathanks all!17:19
knikolla#endmeeting17:19
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"17:19
openstackMeeting ended Tue Mar  9 17:19:08 2021 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)17:19
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