Thursday, 2021-02-25

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 15:01:42 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
dviroelo/15:01
carlosso/15:01
felipe_rodrigueso/15:01
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gouthamrcourtesy ping: ganso vkmc lseki tbarron andrebeltrami esantos15:02
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almir-okatohi15:03
gouthamrhi everyone, looks like we have a smaller than usual group today15:03
andrebeltramio/15:03
chuan137o/15:04
gouthamrhere's the agenda for this meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_Meeting15:04
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:04
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gouthamrnothing pressing at the moment, we're 2 weeks away from feature freeze15:05
vkmco/15:05
carthacahi15:05
gouthamr#link https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html15:05
gouthamrthis also happens to be the client library release deadline15:06
gouthamrwhich for us is python-manilaclient15:06
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gouthamrso if you have changes that require manilaclient integration, please ensure they're in shape within the next couple of weeks15:06
gouthamrany other announcements?15:07
gouthamr#topic M-3 Bugs15:08
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andrebeltramiI have one gouthamr15:08
gouthamr#undo15:08
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #topic M-3 Bugs15:08
gouthamrgo ahead andrebeltrami!15:08
andrebeltramiToday is my last manila meeting as developer of FIT/NetApp. I would like to thanks everyone of this amazing community, I learnt a lot with you. I will try keep in touch and provide some bugfixes haha.15:10
gouthamroh :(15:10
dviroel:(15:10
carloss:/15:10
ecsantos:(15:10
gouthamrthanks for all your work andrebeltrami! we'll miss you around here...15:11
andrebeltramithank you, be sure I`ll participated in some meetings. I really appreciated be part of this.15:12
gouthamrdo try to keep in touch, we'll be sure to farm out the hard bugs for you :)15:12
andrebeltrami+115:12
dviroelandrebeltrami: thanks for all the hard work man15:13
carlossit was nice working with you andrebeltrami! wish you the best in your joruney15:14
carlossjourney*15:14
gouthamr++15:15
gouthamrany other announcements?15:15
gouthamr#topic M-3 bugs15:16
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gouthamr#link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/wallaby-315:16
gouthamrso there's a lot that's targeted for M-3 in this list15:17
vkmcandrebeltrami, :(15:17
gouthamrand since the bot integration is broken atm, we'll need to manually update the status of these bugs15:17
gouthamrmeanwhile, if any of these bugfixes isn't ready yet, please retarget them if you can15:17
gouthamrconsider targeting them to rc-1, which is 4 weeks from now15:18
gouthamrthere are no "high" importance bugs in this list - that makes vhari happy :)15:20
gouthamrany questions/concerns about these m-3 bugs?15:21
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gouthamr#topic Wallaby Release Bug Squash15:22
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gouthamras we planned to do at the Wallaby cycle PTG, we'll have our second bugsquash event after M-315:23
gouthamrvhari has been farming out bugs for this15:24
gouthamr(she's not around atm, a conflict on her calendar)15:24
gouthamrthe idea is to have a 1-hour bug scrubbing meeting on 15th or 16th March15:25
gouthamrbetween 1400-1700 UTC15:25
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gouthamrand follow up with status during our regular IRC meeting on 18th March15:26
gouthamrhow does that sound?15:28
dviroelgreat idea15:28
kiwi_36_sounds good15:29
gouthamrthe 1400-1700 slot on either days is too late/early in the day for some of our contributors - but, since it's a bugsquash that runs monday-thursday, we will have some opportunity to speak and share ideas outside of that bug scrub meeting15:29
carlosssounds good15:30
gouthamrwe hope to have a good list of bugs to dive into, but ofcourse, you can bring-your-own-bugs to squash :)15:30
vkmcsounds good!15:31
vkmc++15:31
gouthamramazing :) thanks for the feedback15:31
gouthamrvhari and I will do some final planning and send out more information on the ML15:32
gouthamrif you would like to help with the planning, lets discuss on #openstack-manila15:32
gouthamrany other feedback regarding this bug squash?15:33
gouthamr#topic Reviews needing feedback15:35
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gouthamr#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-wallaby-review-focus (Wallaby cycle review focus etherpad)15:35
gouthamrwe had a collab review session regarding the secure rbac patches, and a lot of content has been reviewed since then15:36
gouthamr#link https://youtu.be/rvVPmniVoCE (Secure RBAC Collab Review)15:37
dviroel:)15:38
* gouthamr my computer's acting up this am15:38
gouthamr#chair carloss dviroel15:39
openstackCurrent chairs: carloss dviroel gouthamr15:39
gouthamr^ sorry for throwing the chair at you, that’s in case I get disconnected and you don’t hear from me :)15:39
dviroelstill 2 likes in the video, and one is mine15:40
dviroel:(15:40
ecsantos1 is mine o/ haha15:40
dviroelgouthamr: ack15:41
gouthamrlol, our fault we didn’t have any cats in the video15:41
carlosshaha15:41
dviroelhaha15:41
vkmcgreat session gouthamr, thanks for recording :)15:41
vkmcI didn't put a like on it, I'm afraid you will forget us once famous15:41
dviroellol15:42
gouthamr:’) I’ll never forget you guys15:42
gouthamrThis meeting was quite adhoc (entirely my bad, last minute planning), but the next one needn’t be15:42
gouthamrThere are at least two other review meetings that we need around security service updates, and the cephfs driver15:43
dviroelyes!15:43
dviroeli'm planning to schedule a collab review session for security service update feature, at March 3th, 17:00 UTC15:43
vkmc++15:43
gouthamrIf there are others, let me know - however don’t let me bottleneck you on the scheduling - feel free to make up a date and time (like dviroel just did :D)15:44
vkmcMarch 10th is too late for cephfs, or would that work?15:44
gouthamrAnd send out an invite to folks on the mailing list and #openstack-manila15:44
gouthamrvkmc: probably, since 11th is our merge deadline - maybe have it on 8th?15:45
vkmcgouthamr, let's do 8th :)15:47
vkmcthanks15:47
gouthamrGreat!15:47
dviroel++15:48
carloss++15:48
gouthamralright, about the other items on the review focus etherpad - are there any concerns that we need to discuss?15:49
gouthamrIf you’ve signed up to review something, but haven’t gotten to it yet, please consider doing a first pass at such changes today/tomorrow15:49
gouthamrreview fatigue is real, and it helps to break tasks down into smaller chunks, and look at them at different times15:50
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gouthamranything else regarding $topic15:53
gouthamrcool, we've very little time for bugs today15:54
gouthamrbut there are a couple of new ones15:54
gouthamr#topic Bugs (vhari)15:55
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* gouthamr pretends to be vhari :)15:55
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/191653415:55
openstackLaunchpad bug 1916534 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "NetApp driver doesn't configure LDAP clients properly" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Douglas Viroel (dviroel)15:55
dviroelyep, ldap client aren't been properly configured in netapp driver15:55
vkmcseems we can triage it15:55
gouthamrack, is this a low/medium?15:56
dviroeldoesn't work at all with AD LDAP servers15:56
vkmchigh15:56
dviroelmay work with LDAP Unix/LInux servers (may)15:57
dviroelwe can go with medium, not sure15:57
dviroelbut you can assign to me :)15:57
gouthamri see, vkmc - since it doesn't affect all users, i wouldn't tag this as high15:57
carlossmedium sounds more accurate to me15:57
vkmck15:57
gouthamrokay, lets do that15:58
gouthamrthanks for reporting and for working on the fix, dviroel15:58
dviroelset it to m3 too15:58
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/191610215:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1916102 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Unable to allow non-admins with policy: security_services:get_all_security_services" [Undecided,New]15:58
gouthamroh, this one is me - while writing some tests for our existing rbac i noticed that you can't allow a non-admin access to this policy at all15:59
gouthamrbecause we have a check in the code beyond the oslo policy enforcement15:59
* gouthamr forgot to add links in the description16:00
gouthamroh, time checking myself16:01
gouthamrso this is i think a low bug, because we have many instances of checks like this one: #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/191610216:01
openstackLaunchpad bug 1916102 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Unable to allow non-admins with policy: security_services:get_all_security_services" [Undecided,New]16:01
gouthamrgrr16:01
gouthamrhttps://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/14d3e268a05265db53b5cfd19d9a85a3ba73a271/manila/api/v1/security_service.py#L11016:01
gouthamri'll table discussion on this bug here16:01
gouthamrlets clear out, thank you all for attending today16:01
gouthamrlets take any further discussion to #openstack-manila16:02
vkmc++16:02
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gouthamr#endmeeting16:02
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priteau#startmeeting blazar16:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb 25 16:02:56 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:02
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priteau#topic Roll call16:03
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diurnalisto716:04
diurnalisthi priteau16:04
priteauHello diurnalist16:04
priteau#topic Usage enforcement patch16:06
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priteauSo I've been looking at this patch16:06
priteauLet me pull the link16:07
priteauhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/blazar/+/73699316:07
priteauThere's something I don't quite understand, which is the semantics of the length limit window16:08
priteauThe code is at https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/blazar/+/736993/7/blazar/enforcement/filters/max_lease_duration_filter.py16:08
priteauThe help code says:16:08
priteauGives users a window towards the end of a lease to extend it again for the max lease duration. A value of -1 will allow users to extend leases beyond the maximum lease duration.16:09
diurnalistyeah, I see what you mean now. that clearly doesn't work w/ this code16:09
priteauI understand what is intended for the first part, e.g. allow extension only for the last 24 hours16:09
priteauBut I really don't see what was the goal for this -1 value16:09
priteauAdditionally, I don't see where in the code -1 is handled16:10
diurnalistthis is simply a bug, I think. we need an additional check for when the value is -1 (or 0, whichever we want to do). i think the intent was if it's -1 then the check always passes. but in this case, it stands to reason you could simply remove the filter entirely from the chain16:10
priteauWell, there is the -1 for the max_lease_duration option16:11
priteauThat's fine, it means unlimited16:11
priteauIt's having a special case for the window that is strange16:11
priteauMy suggestion would be to remove that part of the code for now. We can put it back as a separate patch16:12
diurnalistoh yeah, hah. yeah, i'm not sure what is up with having it work "beyond the maximum length window"16:12
priteauI've got a local patch with unit tests for this filter16:13
diurnalisti'd say, a value of -1 would maybe mean that you can extend the lease at _any_ point during the lease?16:13
priteauI suppose so, that's would be the default behaviour16:13
diurnalistthat's what it does, effectively. maybe just the help text needs updating. although there is also an 'if' guarding that behavior entirely, so it would seem that 0 is really the value that does this16:14
priteauAnd 0 would prevent extending it, which might be a feature?16:14
diurnalistah, good point, turning it off might be desirable16:14
priteauAlthough it gets more complicated if you think about leases that were not created at the max to start with16:15
priteauSay the length limit is 7 days16:15
priteauI create a 1 day lease16:15
priteauI should be able to extend it to 7 days no matter what is the value of the extension window16:15
diurnalistup until that 7 days, you mean?16:17
diurnalistthat makes sense16:17
priteauyes, up until it is 7 day long16:18
priteauAnd, even beyond really, because:16:19
priteauFor active leases being updated, the limit applies between now and the new end date.16:19
priteauSo, if you extend after 0.5 day of activity, you're suppose to be able to reach 7.516:19
diurnalisti'm not sure of the semantics of -1 vs 0, either one can be used. so maybe it makes sense to have the rules like (a) if window is set, lease can be extended (for another period of <=max_len) within window of lease end. (b) if window is 0, lease can be extended at any time for another period of <=max_len. (c) window only applies to requests to extend past original start_date+max_len16:20
priteauWhy don't we create an Etherpad with a few examples and we agree on the semantics?16:22
diurnalistok16:22
priteauIs it a filter that you would use in Chameleon?16:23
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diurnalistpriteau: yes, we currently use it16:27
diurnalistin combination w/ the external service filter16:27
priteauSo we may as well make it match your semantics16:29
priteauIt's quite a big patch, I've been thinking about how to make it easier to review16:31
priteauI can see a few separate units16:31
priteau1) some refactoring that is independent of the implementation itself16:31
priteau(or bug fixes)16:31
priteau2) refactor of the allocation query methods and its addition to all plugins16:32
priteau3) the common layer for enforcement16:32
priteau4) max lease duration16:32
priteau5) external service16:32
priteauI'll see if splitting is more work than actually reviewing it all in one go16:33
priteauI've also noticed the patch has a dependency on the soft delete functionality16:33
priteauSo I am thinking of reviving it first16:33
priteauThere were other things that I wanted to mention…16:34
priteauFor the external service, have you tested what happens if it is unreachable?16:35
priteauAnd should we have timeouts?16:37
priteauFor example, if it accepts queries but without replying, could it block Blazar?16:38
diurnalistIt should fail closed, as in, proceed w/o blocking the lease. i don't believe there are configurable timeouts on it. maybe there are some common oslo options we could leverage for the client that gcalls the service16:38
diurnalisti didn't think about it depending on soft-delete. does it really?16:38
diurnalisti know there were some refactorings as part of (1) that were around lease deletion but i recall it was more about deleing events vs. leases16:39
priteauOnly as a hidden dependency, not explicitly16:39
priteauFor example here: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/blazar/+/736993/7/blazar/db/sqlalchemy/utils.py#11116:39
priteauAnd also in the long standing bug you mention in the commit message16:40
priteauIn upstream Blazar, events are deleted with the lease so it doesn't matter that the state isn't changed16:40
diurnalistah, i see16:42
diurnalistso it's only a long-standing bug in combo w/ soft-delete16:42
priteauyes16:43
diurnalistright, that deleted_at filter :facepalm:. do we have a patch for soft-delete already in there?16:43
priteauAn old one16:45
priteauhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/blazar/+/58580716:45
priteauOutdated since it doesn't cover floating IPs16:45
diurnalistyep, ok16:45
priteauThe main issue with it was around handling compute hosts that would be recreated16:46
priteauBecause their primary key is the Nova hypervisor ID16:46
priteauSo I think we wanted to un-soft-delete them16:47
priteauThe other comment was about handling DB purge, but we can worry about it in another patch16:47
priteauIf you have a newer local patch for this, feel free to upload on top16:48
diurnalistok16:48
diurnalisti think i may actually. at some point i was doing some more git rewriting to try to push more of these patches down so they don't all depend on eachother so much16:48
priteauThe more we get merged, the easier it will be16:50
priteauAre you using the external service for enforcement in Chameleon or still the build-in code I wrote ages ago?16:50
diurnalistwe're using the external service16:53
priteauGreat! Is the code open?16:54
diurnalistfor the external service itself, or the plugin? i thought the plugin was part of that gerrit patch16:56
priteauFor the external service itself16:57
diurnalistit is not. though, i'm not sure there's a great reason for why16:57
diurnalisti think you would have access though, I'll ping you a link16:58
priteauThanks16:58
priteauLast question, do you think the term "filter" is appropriate? It's not quite like a Nova filter which lets some hosts pass but not all16:59
priteauThey're really policy modules17:00
priteauThough it's not a great name either17:00
diurnalisttrue, it's not really a filter in the strict sense17:00
diurnalistmore like a chain or something17:00
priteauSomething we can think about until next time17:01
priteauWe're out of time already17:01
priteauThanks Jason, useful chat17:01
priteau#endmeeting17:01
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