Wednesday, 2021-01-13

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rosmaita#startmeeting cinder14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 13 14:00:39 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rosmaita. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'14:00
rosmaita#topic roll call14:00
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michael-mcaleerhi!14:00
eharneyhi14:01
whoami-rajat__Hi14:01
toskyo/14:01
e0nehi14:01
rosmaitahoping we get a few more people14:01
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geguileohi!14:02
rosmaitaok, now we can start!  :D14:03
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rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-meetings14:03
rosmaita#topic announcements14:03
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: cinder)"14:03
jungleboyjo/14:03
rosmaitaok, as we discussed last week, the new driver merge deadline is milestone-214:03
rosmaitawhich is next week14:03
enriquetasohi14:03
rosmaitaso review priority is DRIVERS14:03
rosmaita#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-January/019720.html14:04
rosmaitaalso, that email missed a backup driver for S314:04
rosmaitawhich was proposed a while ago but has been sitting14:05
rosmaitafinally found the link14:05
rosmaita#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/74656114:05
rosmaitathat review requires a change to global-requirements14:06
rosmaitawhich has been approved by the requirements team14:06
rosmaitathough currently Zuul disagrees14:06
rosmaitain any case, we can assume that the requirement is approved, so no reason to hold up reviews on that patch14:06
e0negreat! will review and test it14:07
rosmaitaexcellent!14:07
rosmaitai don't need to remind people that all you need to do is look at the cinder logo to see how important backends are to cinder14:07
rosmaitaso these are the most important reviews right now14:07
jungleboyj:-)14:07
rosmaitaand i will gently remind people who have other patches posted, that you can please review other peoples' patches to move things along14:08
rosmaitathe email linked above has a link to the cinder docs, where we have a new driver review checklist that can guide you along14:08
rosmaitaany questions or comments?14:09
jungleboyjRemind me when the deadline is?14:09
rosmaitanot tomorrow, but the thursday after that14:09
rosmaitayeah14:09
rosmaitait is very close14:09
jungleboyjOk.14:09
rosmaitaonly other announcement is the status of the cursive library14:10
rosmaitaoslo has agreed to take over governance, and oslo and barbican will share core duties14:11
rosmaita(at least i think that's what they said)14:11
rosmaita(possibly shared governance)14:11
rosmaitain any case, the important point is that it will be brought back into the 'openstack' namespace14:11
rosmaitaand we will have active, identifiable core reviewers to contact if we need to patch it14:12
rosmaita#topic Wallaby R-13 Bug Review14:13
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michael-mcaleerthanks rosmaita14:13
rosmaita#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/cinder-wallaby-r13-bug-review14:13
michael-mcaleerquiet week again this week, only 2 bugs opened, one for cinder and one for python cinderlib14:13
michael-mcaleerbug_1: volume manager under reports allocated space #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/191076714:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1910767 in Cinder "volume manager under reports allocated space" [Medium,Triaged]14:13
michael-mcaleerI have set this to medium importance but it may warrant high, underreporting of allocated capacity could be very problematic14:14
eharneydoes this impact anything after the service has been up and running for a few minutes?  (i.e. when volume stats have been gathered again)14:14
michael-mcaleerI had assumed that the periodic status check that go to the drivers would update the capacities also14:15
eharneyi assume not, so it probably doesn't need to be a high prio bug14:15
rosmaitai agree with eharney here14:16
michael-mcaleerno problem, it was opened by waltboring so we might hear from him in the future about it14:16
rosmaitai wonder if there was a reason why it was implemented like this14:17
rosmaitai mean14:17
rosmaitaonly look at those 2 statuses at init14:17
rosmaitaand then get better stats later14:17
eharneyi kind of doubt it14:17
jungleboyjhemna:  ^^^14:18
whoami-rajat__i think those are the 2 valid states right? other states may end up in error14:18
rosmaitaok, we can discuss on the bug report14:19
michael-mcaleermoving on to the next and final bug14:20
michael-mcaleerbug_2: Can't get volume usage #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/191139014:20
openstackLaunchpad bug 1911390 in python-cinderclient "Can't get volume usage" [Wishlist,Triaged]14:20
michael-mcaleerthis isnt a bug, more of a misinterpretation of what is returned to users, but I set it to wishlist incase its something that may be looked at in the future14:20
eharneyif we want to keep it as wishlist it needs more detail about what it means14:20
eharneybecause i'm not sure what the complaint/request actually is14:21
geguileoand that's not something that's easy to report14:21
michael-mcaleerI read it like the user wanted/expected to get used capacity back14:21
geguileoif you have thin volumes and deduplication/compression on the backend...14:21
eharneyi don't think we want to support that14:21
geguileoeharney: +114:21
michael-mcaleergeguileo I agree, from a driver maintainer perspective we would need to have a call that goes to our management server to get the current capacity14:21
michael-mcaleerand its not always black & white14:22
geguileoyeah, and it probably wouldn't be the same between different backends14:23
eharneyi'd vote for "Won't Fix"14:23
michael-mcaleerok, any objections to moving to wont fix?14:23
e0neeharney: +114:24
michael-mcaleerill change that now, thanks everyone14:24
whoami-rajat__eharney +114:24
rosmaitayou can say in the comment that they can provide more clarity about what exactly they are asking14:24
rosmaitaif they object14:24
michael-mcaleerno prob ill do that14:24
geguileo+1 to won't fix, but with proper explanation on why we won't be fixing it14:24
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michael-mcaleerdoes someone want to make that an action item for themselves with a proper explanation?14:25
rosmaitamaybe ask for clarity first so we know what we're explaining14:25
michael-mcaleerwill do ill ask that14:26
michael-mcaleerthats it from me this week, thanks everyone14:26
rosmaitathanks!14:26
rosmaita#topic Stable releases14:27
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rosmaitawhoami-rajat__: that's you14:27
whoami-rajat__thanks rosmaita14:27
whoami-rajat__this is just a reminder that tomorrow is the last date for cycle-trailing releases14:27
whoami-rajat__for us, it's cinderlib14:27
whoami-rajat__a patch is blocking it and we need to finalize if we want to include it in the cinderlib victoria release or not14:28
whoami-rajat__#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinderlib/+/76853314:28
whoami-rajat__geguileo:  ^^ need your opinion on the same14:28
rosmaitamy question is that i think stable/vic cinderlib should be using stable/vic os-brick14:29
rosmaitais that a correct assumption?14:29
e0ne+114:29
rosmaitaotherwise, there wouldn't seem to be any point in having stable cinderlib branches14:29
e0neat least, it sounds like a right way to do14:30
toskytalking about stable releases, and even knowing that drivers have the highest review priority, there is a good amount of (I believe) clean backports that could get some attention14:30
rosmaitai think geguileo may be in another meeting14:31
whoami-rajat__seems like that14:31
whoami-rajat__i can ask him after the meeting14:32
rosmaitaok, otherwise, i think we merge https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinderlib/+/768533 and update the hash for release14:32
rosmaitaaccording to herve, there's a good chance the release publish job will fail without that change14:33
rosmaitaor something like it, anyway14:33
rosmaitaany comments or questions?14:33
whoami-rajat__ack, should i go forward and merge it now?14:33
eharneymaybe14:33
whoami-rajat__it already has 2 +2s14:33
eharneyi think the note about os-brick in the commit message doesn't match what's in the reqs?14:34
rosmaitai think you are correct14:35
eharneyit says os-brick 4.0.1 but still only requires 2.7.014:35
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rosmaitaok, i need to fix that14:36
rosmaitagood catch14:36
rosmaitai'll check offline to make sure the l-c still work (pretty sure they will, but you never know)14:37
rosmaitalook for a new patch set right after the meeting14:37
geguileorosmaita: yes, sorry, I'm on another meeting. I'll review your updated patch later14:38
rosmaitathanks!14:38
rosmaitawhoami-rajat__: anything else?14:38
whoami-rajat__that's all from me14:38
whoami-rajat__thanks!14:38
rosmaitagreat, thank you14:38
rosmaita#topic open discussion14:38
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rosmaitaif nobody has anything, this is 20 minutes of review time!!!14:39
e0nejust kindly ask for review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/76758114:40
e0neit has +2 from hemna14:40
eharneyhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/cinder/+/769552 had the lio-barbican job failing until someone said "I've never seen this many consecutive successful runs"14:40
eharney:)14:40
eharneyhad the lio-barbican job passing*14:40
rosmaitaalthough apparently i spoke too soon, last run timed out!14:41
rosmaitabut i still think it's worth merging, would seem to reduce the number of rechecks14:42
whoami-rajat__i was going through bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1873234 , and realised the default rpc timeout for cinder is changed from 60 to 120 secs here https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/76832314:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1873234 in devstack "lvchange -a causing RPC timeouts between c-api and c-vol on inap hosts in CI" [Undecided,New]14:43
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eharneynot really sure how lv activation could take 81 seconds unless there's something really wrong with that node, that seems odd14:44
eharneyprobably should read syslog when that occurs to see what it's doing14:45
whoami-rajat__also the patch increases the rpc timeout for all backends, the change isn't specific for lvm which seems wrong14:46
whoami-rajat__s/all backends/ irrespective of the backend14:46
eharneyalso, that command taking that long to return shouldn't cause an rpc timeout anyway, unless there's some other bug in cinder14:47
hemnamep14:48
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rosmaitaanything else?14:50
rosmaitaok, use these final 10 minutes wisely14:51
rosmaita#endmeeting14:51
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e0ne#startmeeting horizon15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 13 15:00:25 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'15:00
e0nehi everybody15:00
vishalmanchandahi all15:01
tmazurhi everyone!15:01
amotokihi15:01
e0neI hope you enjoyed Christmas and and New Year holidays15:02
e0nelet's start our the first  meeting in 202115:04
e0ne#topic Notices15:04
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e0neI spent last two weeks almost without my laptop, so there are no news from me15:05
e0nejust a reminder that next week we'll reach Wallaby-2 milestone15:05
e0nenothing special for horizon deliveries15:06
e0nebut we discussed in the past that it would be good to have a short (1-2 hours) mid-cycle call around this date15:07
rdopierao/15:08
e0newe can have a call instead ourIRC meeting if we want to have it15:08
e0neI'll send a mail with this proposal later tonight15:09
amotokiI have no strong preference on it.15:10
e0neamotoki: it's just a proposal, so let's do it a bit loud in the mailing list15:11
tmazurdo we have separated etherpad for mid-cycle?15:11
e0nemaybe we'll catch some new contributors15:11
e0netmazur: not yet15:12
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e0ne#topic Open Discussion15:14
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e0nethere are some items in our etherpad15:14
e0ne#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/horizon-release-priorities15:14
rdopieraif you don't mind, I'd like to discss the plans for updating jquery -- amotoki mentioned in the review he would like to know it too15:15
e0nelines #55-6515:15
e0nerdopiera: sure15:16
e0nerdopiera: it's your turn15:17
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rdopierafrom the testing I did (which didn't include plugins, I will still need to see about that), it seems that we are ready to update it -- we don't have any outstanding breaking incompatibilities. There are some warnings in the version of Angular that we use, but they are not errors, just warnings15:18
rdopierabasically if we update the xstatic-jquery and xstatic-jquery-migrate and update the requirement versions, it will work15:19
e0nedoes it pass integration tests?15:20
amotokifor reference rdopiera is talking about https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/xstatic-jquery-migrate/+/76476915:20
rdopierait generates a lot of warnings in the js console, but we can fix them gradually15:22
rdopierae0ne: I only managed to run the selenium headless tests on my machine, I can't get the integration tests running :(15:23
e0ne:(15:23
e0nerdopiera: we should be able to do it on or gate15:24
rdopieraso the way I see it, my next steps would be testing the intergration tests and the plugins15:24
e0ne+115:24
amotokimy point in the above review is jquery-migrate 3.x assumes jquery 1.12.x or 2.2.x but our requirement says jquery>=1.8.2.115:25
e0neat least, we have to test it with plugins which we've got on ourgates too15:25
rdopierae0ne: to test it on the gate we would first need to merge the upgrade for xstatic-jquery-migrate and release it15:25
amotokiat least I think we need to bump the min ver of jquery to >=1.12.x15:25
amotoki* first15:25
e0neamotoki: that's a good point. we should to resole it first15:25
rdopierathere is already a package for xstatic-jquery15:26
amotokithis does not affect the current runtime reqs as u-c already speifies 1.12.x15:26
e0neamotoki: we can face issues with pip if we don't upgrade jquery15:26
e0nealso, we can't be sure that jquery-migrate works well in horizon with older jquery15:26
rdopieraactually we can be sure it doesn't15:27
rdopierawe need to upgrade both15:27
rdopieraat the same time15:27
amotokiwhy "at the same time"?15:27
rdopierabecause either one of them will not work with older versions of the other15:28
amotokirdopiera: which versions of jquery and jquery-migrate are you talking about?15:28
amotokiwhat I suggest is to bump the min ver of xstatic-jquery to >=1.12.x and then upgrade jquery-migrate to 3.x. I think it works well.15:30
vishalmanchandae0ne: I think integration test pass with this change https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/horizon/+/76530115:30
rdopieraXStatic_jQuery-3.5.1.1 and the jquery-migrate from that patch linked above15:30
amotokirdopiera: I see15:31
amotokiso you are trying to bump both to 3.x era directly15:31
rdopierayes, I think it's the only sane way15:31
amotokiIIUC jquery-migrate 3.x helps us upgrade to jquery 3.x15:33
amotokiso I think jquery 1.12.x and jquery-migrate 3.x are compatbile. am I missing something?15:33
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amotokihmm.... I might be wrong https://github.com/jquery/jquery-migrate/blob/master/package.json#L25-L2715:35
rdopieraamotoki: it is compatible with 1.12, but not older15:35
rdopierafrom docs: NOTE: To upgrade to jQuery 3.0, you first need version 1.12.x or 2.2.x. If you're using an older version, first upgrade to one of these versions using jQuery Migrate 1.x, to resolve any compatibility issues. For more information about the changes made in jQuery 3.0, see the upgrade guide and blog post.15:35
amotokirdopiera: yeah, so my idea is to bump requirements in horizon from XStatic-jQuery>=1.8.2.1,<2 to XStatic-jQuery>=1.12.4.1(,<2)15:37
amotokiI am not sure we need to bump jquery to 3.x together.15:37
rdopierawe will want to ship jquery 3 sooner or later15:38
rdopierapreferably sooner15:38
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e0nerdopiera: +115:39
amotokiI am fine with jquery 3.15:39
rdopierathere is a bunch of CVEs fixed in it15:39
amotokiI am just talking about whether we need to bump both together.15:39
amotokibut it is mainly for developers so bumping both together would be okay perhaps15:40
rdopieraso we need to bump to 1.12 before we bump jquery-migrate, then we have to bump jquery-migrate before we bump jquery further15:40
amotokirdopiera: I think so15:40
amotokithe first change can be done in the horizon repo.15:40
rdopierafun fact: we've been using jquery 1.12 in osp13 for several years now15:41
amotokiubuntu has python3-xstatic-jquery_1.12.4.1-2_all.deb too15:42
amotoki(ubuntu focal)15:43
amotokiperhaps cloud archive uses this version15:44
e0ne it seems to be safe to upgrade to 1.12.x15:44
amotokie0ne: this is not a upgrade actually. this is just a min version bump.15:45
e0nebut I prefer to read it's changelog to verify that nothing is dropped15:45
e0neamotoki: it's true only if jquery always respect to semver15:45
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amotokie0ne: we already uses xstatic-jquery 1.12.4.1 since 201815:46
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e0neamotoki: it's good15:46
amotokiI believe bumping the min version in horizon reqs has no issue15:47
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e0ne+115:48
amotokiso our plan would be: (1) bump to jquery 1.12 (2) release jquery migrate and update the reqs (g-r, u-c and horizon reqs) (3) upgrade jquery to 3.x15:49
amotokiright?15:49
e0nesound good to me15:51
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amotokithere is one question: when should we have a checkpoit for horizon plugins?15:53
amotokiafter (2) or after (3)15:53
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e0newe can delay it to (3) if we don't spend a lot of time between (2) and (3)15:55
amotokianyway wallaby-2 milestone is approaching, so it is better to do it soon so taht plguins can fix issues if any15:55
e0ne+115:56
amotokibtw, please check L.55-63 in the etherpad on lower-constraints maintenance and horizon in requirements blacklist.txt. we have no time to discuss it.15:57
e0neamotoki: will do it. thanks for raising this topic15:59
e0newe're out of time. we can continue discussion in #openstack-horizon channel15:59
e0nethanks everybody for your contributions16:00
e0ne#endmeeting16:00
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openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2021/horizon.2021-01-13-15.00.html16:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2021/horizon.2021-01-13-15.00.txt16:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2021/horizon.2021-01-13-15.00.log.html16:00
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