Tuesday, 2020-12-08

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ricolin#startmeeting multi_arch07:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  8 07:01:47 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.07:01
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ricolin#topic roll call07:01
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ricolinianw, :)07:03
ianwo/07:03
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ricolinianw, can you share some links or information on wheel arm64 works update?07:05
ricolin#topic arm64 cicd update07:05
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* ricolin sharing some update information for other part07:07
ricolinfor devstack arm64 job07:07
ricolinit looks green now07:07
ricolin#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/70831707:07
ricolinbut the running time is up to 2.5 hr07:09
ricolinwhich for compare, non arm64 functional test cost about an hour running time07:09
ricolinassume we can try provide some different flavor and check if it's possible for arm64 job to improve performance07:11
ricolinNeed to ask forks from Linaro07:11
ricolin#action Rico to contact forks from Linaro to seek if possible/make sense to add new flavor07:12
ricolin#undo07:12
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #action Rico to contact forks from Linaro to seek if possible/make sense to add new flavor07:12
ricolin#action ricolin to contact forks from Linaro to seek if possible/make sense to add new flavor07:12
ricolinThanks to ianw , arm64 wheel support is there now, I'm thinking it's about time to introduce ut to some projects07:13
ricolinas first step, it will be non-voting07:13
ricolin#action ricolin add openstack-python3-wallaby-jobs-arm64 to projects07:15
ricolinIf anyone find any multi-arch related information, feel free to find us in irc #openstack-multi-arch07:16
ricolin#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-zuul-jobs/+/754588/3/zuul.d/project-templates.yaml07:17
ricolinthx:)07:17
ricolin#endmeeting07:17
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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  8 09:00:18 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
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priteau#topic Roll call09:00
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priteau#endmeeting09:11
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"09:11
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gagehugo#startmeeting openstack-helm15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  8 15:00:56 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda15:01
gagehugoo/15:01
lamt\o15:01
miniroyo/15:01
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stevthedevyo15:01
sangeet\o/15:02
cliffparsonso/15:03
gagehugolets get started15:04
gagehugo#topic Dec meetings15:04
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gagehugoThis will likely be the last meeting for Dec, with several people out due to holidays15:04
gagehugoSo I was planning on canceling the 15, 22, 29 meetings15:05
reddy1o/15:05
sangeetok15:05
gagehugoIs that ok with everyone?15:05
stevthedevI can't believe we're at the year end already15:05
cliffparsons+115:05
reddy1+115:06
gagehugoThe year flew by15:06
miniroy+215:07
gagehugoI'll send out an email then cancelling the rest of the year's meetings15:08
stevthedevSounds good though. The next time we'll be chatting here will be 2021 :)15:08
megheisler+115:08
lamt+115:08
gagehugo#topic remove older OS releases15:08
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gagehugo#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm/+/76005915:08
gagehugolamt has graciously made a change to remove the older EOL releases for openstack from our gate testing that came from discussions at the PTG15:09
gagehugoHowever, we also mentioned bumping the chart versions, likely a major chart bump, to signify to end users that we no longer officially support those older releases15:10
gagehugos/major chart/major version number/15:10
stevthedevacross all of the os charts?15:10
sangeetWhere are planning to bunp the version? in Charts.yaml?15:11
gagehugoYes, all of them that follow the release schedule15:11
gagehugoWe still have things like Ocata which is quite old15:11
gagehugoheck, we still gate against Rocky which is EoL already lol15:11
gagehugoyes, Charts.yaml15:13
gagehugoChart.yaml15:13
sangeet:)15:13
gagehugoAny thoughts?15:14
miniroyso we need some sort of "freeze" period so all the charts can be updated?15:14
miniroyand rebase all the open ps after?15:14
sangeethttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/23c51ce928aaeaa9795b7798dd723fdab1fa4d99/keystone/Chart.yaml#L17 change this to "version: 1.1.3" or "version: 1.0.0"15:14
sangeetfor example15:14
gagehugoI would say 1.1.3 or 0.2.315:15
sangeetWhy do we need to do for all the charts .. should we we not be doing only for openstack components?15:16
reddy1Updating at a lot of places may not be practical15:17
sangeetNever mind "gagehugo: Yes, all of them that follow the release schedule" I got the answer15:17
gagehugoYes, only the openstack services15:20
gagehugoIf anyone is using osh for older releases they can have a version to pin to15:20
sangeetI am wondering when will we change the next majto version? Are going to follow everytime a new stable Openstack release is released? If that is the case then we should increase the majto version to 7 becasue the first code was writen for Ocata15:22
sangeetJust a thought .. I am ok with increasing the version by one only15:22
gagehugoI think the main idea was to signify things osh supported rather than follow the OS release schedule, but if we do this route it may end up being that15:23
gagehugoI'd say just one version increment15:24
sangeetsure15:24
miniroyor maybe just update the wiki?  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Openstack-helm15:25
gagehugowe should do that as well15:26
miniroysomething similiar to this?  https://docs.openstack.org/puppet-openstack-guide/latest/install/releases.html15:27
miniroyjust to be consistent I guess15:27
gagehugobasically some form of release notes I guess15:27
gagehugobut yes15:27
miniroyso do we get to come up with some fancy release name of our own?  :)15:28
sangeetName of major hurricanes15:30
gagehugonope15:30
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gagehugoIf no one is really opposed to it, then I guess we can move forward with that15:31
sangeetI am good with changing the release15:31
miniroylet's go with "Nike"..... per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_(name)15:32
gagehugohaha15:32
gagehugo#topic Open Discussion15:32
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gagehugoDoes anyone have anything else to discuss this week?15:34
lamtFixed - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/openstack-helm/+/76005915:36
sangeetI think I agree with lamt has done in above PS15:37
miniroyso we need that release note and force/enforce everyone to rebase their open ps after15:39
sangeetShould Hcart mini version increase be enforced here as we do of Infra?15:39
sangeet*Chart andnot Hcart15:40
lamtthe linter script enforces it15:40
sangeetis it doing for opensatck-hlem repo also? I am not sure15:41
miniroyok so the linter script will run again before merge then?15:41
miniroyor maybe I am over-thinking it15:41
miniroyjust do it15:41
miniroyGo Nike!15:41
lamtwhen do you bump the minor version?15:42
sangeetInfra requires it everytime you try to add a new PS15:43
sangeetSorry I meant micro version15:43
sangeetI do not know when we would increase minor version15:43
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lamtany thoughts on when the minor version should be bumped?15:47
lamtor we just updated the major and patch version only?15:47
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gagehugoI was wondering for your ps if we just bump the minor version15:49
sangeetWe can update the major and patch version only untill we come up with the need of minor version to be changed.15:49
sangeetto 0.2.0?15:49
gagehugoand maybe when/if we ever move to helm3, bump the major15:49
lamtthen the question is when do we bump the major version :D15:49
gagehugoor maybe when kubernetes 2 comes out15:50
lamtlol15:50
miniroyI think this change is "major" enough to warrant a major version change15:50
miniroyso when helm3 is ready, we should bump it up again as we would likely be dropping/freezing support for older releases15:52
gagehugoMy thoughts were we will likely bump this 2x a year if we end up following the OS release schedule15:52
gagehugoand IMO minor versions are easier to bump15:54
miniroythat makes sense, let's just roll with it then15:54
gagehugoand we're not really making "major" changes to the charts themselves, simply using the version bump to signify we no longer support X release of openstack15:55
gagehugoWe can discuss further in Tin's ps, we're about at time15:57
gagehugoHope everyone stays safe and has a happy holidays and happy new year15:57
gagehugo#endmeeting15:57
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knikolla#startmeeting keystone16:58
openstackMeeting started Tue Dec  8 16:58:57 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is knikolla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:58
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knikollao/16:59
rafaelweingartne\o16:59
knikollaThere isn't anything new on the agenda, besides the same items as last week. Which I don't see review progress on.16:59
cmurphyo/17:00
rafaelweingartneWell, I replied the reviews inquiries.17:00
rafaelweingartneI am waiting to see if people have more questions or concerns to address there17:00
knikollathanks rafaelweingartne17:01
gagehugoo/17:02
knikolla#topic Specs17:03
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knikolla#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/748042/17:03
knikolla#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/748748/17:03
knikollaThey do look good to me, however I'd appreciate more eyes.17:03
knikollaI can end the meeting early if that helps people to have more time on that.17:04
knikolla#topic Open Discussion17:07
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gagehugohttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/keystone/+/759940 should close out a long standing security bug17:08
gagehugoI'll look at the specs today, been out the past few weeks17:09
gagehugoalso I'm out after this week so....17:09
gagehugo:)17:09
gagehugoI dislike the new gerrit ui17:10
knikollaenjoy your time off :)17:10
knikollayeah, i dislike it too. it locks up Safari, and is quite slow on Chrome.17:11
gagehugodark mode is nice, but I already use dark reader with chrome so I already had that with the old one17:11
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knikollathanks all17:16
knikolla#endmeeting17:16
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gagehugothanks knikolla17:16
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