Thursday, 2020-11-05

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov  5 15:01:16 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
carlosso/15:01
maaritammo/15:01
dviroelo/15:01
vhario/15:01
lsekio/15:01
andrebeltramihi15:01
tbarron\o/15:01
gouthamrcourtesy ping: ganso vkmc felipe_rodrigues15:01
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gouthamrwelcome, and thank you for joining o/15:02
gouthamrlets begin with15:02
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:02
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gouthamrThe PTG Summaries have been posted15:02
gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/thread.html (Wallaby PTG Summary)15:03
gouthamrthere're a bunch of action items and owners identified15:03
gouthamrwe might call upon folks with AIs from time to time here to share updates15:04
gouthamrno other announcements today, i hope everyone had a great weekend's rest after the long PTG15:04
gouthamrlets take a quick peek at the Wallaby release schedule15:05
gouthamr#link https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html (Wallaby Release Schedule)15:05
gouthamrnext few deadlines to remember are the Wallaby-1 milestone (Dec 04 2020)15:05
gouthamrand Manila Spec Freeze (Dec 25 2020)15:06
gouthamrso please plan your work accordingly :)15:06
gouthamrany other announcements?15:06
gouthamrgrrr15:07
gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-November/018544.html (Wallaby PTG Summary)15:07
gouthamrif not, lets move on15:07
gouthamr#topic PTG Follow up15:07
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gouthamrwe had a few topics we couldn't catch up with during the PTG15:08
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gouthamrone of those was this review from tbarron15:08
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/636770/  (High level vision document)15:08
gouthamrs/review/patch15:08
tbarronhmm, the author hasn't updated it in a bit15:09
gouthamrah, lets remind him then! :P15:09
tbarronbut never got a lot of engagement from reviewers (current PTL excepted)15:09
tbarronI'll give it a refresh and kick.15:10
tbarronkick the author15:10
gouthamrawesome, i'd like the rest of us to pay attention and review this15:10
gouthamrit's high time we put some of those thoughts into words and placed them in our docs for a wider audience15:11
gouthamrtbarron once you update it, do add folks to review15:11
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tbarronkk15:12
* dviroel add himself to reviewers list15:12
gouthamrty dviroel15:13
gouthamrlike we noted earlier, there's a lot to catch up on in terms of actions post PTG - are there any questions/concerns at the moment?15:13
gouthamri'm hoping someone will get https://review.opendev.org/#/c/758868/ moving along15:14
gouthamrdviroel carloss vkmc tbarron - can you folks +/- 1 ^15:14
dviroelyep15:15
carlosssure15:15
gouthamrgreat, ty15:15
gouthamrokay if there are no other concerns, lets move on to talk about bugs15:16
gouthamr#topic Bugs (vhari)15:16
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (vhari) (Meeting topic: manila)"15:16
gouthamro/ vhari15:16
vharigouthamr \o15:16
* dviroel will be afk for 3 minutes15:16
vharifirst off we wanted to follow up about the bugsquash15:17
vharihoping to schedule a session next couple of weeks to discuss 'Wallaby-1 for bigger bugs that require API/DB changes as identified in the last Cycle'15:17
vhari:)15:17
vharifew options 11/12 or 11/19 for dates15:18
gouthamrgreat! we could use this hour to triage stuff like we have in the past15:18
tbarron+115:18
gouthamralthough your thought is we'd be working on bugs already triaged/picked up?15:18
vhariwe talked about it in detail at ptg - checking in case any questions on this15:18
vharigouthamr, ack or any new ones not discussed ..15:19
gouthamrgood point - we'll always have those :)15:19
vhariI have a preliminary list for folks to review and come up with target bugs to work on15:19
vharihere is the list .. https://ethercalc.openstack.org/birpr9a6bd0b15:19
vhariit's living document :) as things shift in and out15:20
vhariso we can use ^^ as content for the session15:20
vharidoes anyone have a preference on the date?15:20
tbarronfwiw I may be out of office on 11/1215:20
vharik15:21
gouthamri'm okay with either dates, lets go with one that most of us can make it for15:21
vhariany objections to 11/19?15:21
* gouthamr remembers vkmc is out today 15:22
* dviroel is back15:22
vharigouthamr, ack15:22
vhari11/19 - going once?15:22
gouthamrmaaritamm, netappers, what say you?15:22
carloss11/19 lgtm15:22
vharitwice ......15:22
dviroel+1 for 11/1915:23
felipe_rodrigues+1  both15:23
vharicool we'll have the next bugsquash 11/1915:24
andrebeltrami+115:24
vhariawesome .. done15:24
vharimoving on to bugs for today ..15:24
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/190285415:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1902854 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "migration get progress missing fields" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Maurice Escher (maurice-escher)15:25
gouthamrvhari++ - we can publicize the bugsquash plans a bit more, via openstack-discuss, etc15:25
vharifix proposed ..15:25
vharigouthamr, kk sounds good15:25
vhari^^ bug fix proposed .. let me know if we need to discuss15:26
vhariotherwise moving on to the next15:26
dviroelre bug 1902854, NetApp driver provide a few more information wrt migration progress15:26
openstackbug 1902854 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "migration get progress missing fields" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902854 - Assigned to Maurice Escher (maurice-escher)15:26
gouthamrthe fix can be versioned15:27
gouthamrand made consistent15:27
dviroelyep15:27
gouthamrthe problem here was we couldn't come up with a common set of things that we could retrieve from the backends (or the data service operations)15:28
* carthaca sneaks in 15:28
gouthamrso we ended up with just "total_progress" and "task_state"15:28
* gouthamr hey there carthaca 15:28
carthacajust noticed that the meeting is 1 hour earlier for me due to daylight saving time change15:29
gouthamrif we always think migration is a cloud/system admin level task, we can supply a blob of additional information (just like the scheduler-stats/pools API)15:29
gouthamrcarthaca: oh! yes - i just remember this slot as 1500 UTC and convert that every now and then :P15:31
vhari:D glad you made it carthaca15:31
carthacathanks to openstack bot, it highlighted my name15:31
gouthamrcarthaca: good chance you're not alone though - been missing or making it late to meetings this week ¯\_(ツ)_/¯15:31
gouthamropenstack: good bot15:32
gouthamrwe can take thoughts on bug 1902854 to review, if folks need some time to think about it15:33
openstackbug 1902854 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "migration get progress missing fields" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902854 - Assigned to Maurice Escher (maurice-escher)15:33
dviroelgouthamr: +1 for a blob of additional/vendor-specific information15:33
vharigouthamr, sounds good .. so next up for triage15:33
gouthamrlets decide if the bug is valid, low/medium/high and set a timeline15:33
gouthamrcarthaca: it sounds like a medium to me - the inconvenience is that you'll have to parse the logs to get this information today?15:35
* gouthamr looks like "estimated_completion_time" isn't logged too15:36
carthacaI would have to logon to the back end15:37
gouthamryeah we should avoid that - i think this is reasonable to include in a blob that automation can choose to ignore15:37
gouthamrany disagreements there? lets mark this medium, and i'll take that comment ^ to review15:39
gouthamrlets target this to wallaby-2 for now15:39
vharidone ..15:39
vharinext up15:39
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/190118915:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1901189 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "netapp kerberos-realm-create api changed" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Felipe Rodrigues (felipefutty)15:39
gouthamr8.3 is old :) you'd hope noone is running it?15:40
dviroelfelipe_rodrigues: were you able reproduce it?15:41
felipe_rodriguesYeap15:41
felipe_rodriguesI already fixed it15:41
dviroel\o/15:41
vharifelipe_rodrigues++15:41
felipe_rodriguesI will send a patch fix soon15:41
gouthamrso this is broken for any netapp user that chooses to use kerberos, since 8.3 is the minimum ONTAP version supported by the manila driver iirc?15:41
dviroelgouthamr: yes15:42
felipe_rodriguesyes15:42
gouthamrgood stuff felipe_rodrigues! can you determine the bug prio?15:42
dviroelsince this isn't working at all, i would say that is a medium, even being driver specific15:43
felipe_rodrigueslow15:43
felipe_rodriguescan be medium as well15:43
gouthamrokay, that's a decent classification - we can treat this as a day-0 bug, and hopefully the fix can be backported to older supported releases15:43
felipe_rodrigues+115:44
dviroelwe might have it by wallaby-1 then15:44
gouthamrgood stuff15:44
vhariwe can set it to wallaby-1 and revisit later15:44
vharimoving on15:45
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/190075515:45
openstackLaunchpad bug 1900755 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "cifs ad without machine account creation permissions" [Undecided,New]15:45
vharilast bug to triage for today :)15:45
gouthamrcarthaca++ for filing all these bugs and providing great detail in them15:46
gouthamrwe discussed this one during the "Operational Concerns for OpenStack Manila" forum session15:46
gouthamrmust be a simple bug fix on the driver side, but definitely impactful to end users15:47
gouthamrany netapp folks want to pick this one up?15:47
dviroelsure15:48
carthacaI just created a bug for this certain cifs error, but I have endless variations what can go wrong and is only visible in the log15:48
gouthamrah15:49
carthacaSo ideally I'm hoping for a more general solution15:49
gouthamrhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/799227/ looks like missing rbac for the driver's "netapp_login" user?15:50
* gouthamr Reason - 13001, my old friend15:51
dviroelhaha15:51
gouthamrsince the netapp folks are just taking a look at this, we'll take discussion for a generic solution to the bug or the review15:52
gouthamris this one medium/wallaby-1 as well?15:52
vharigouthamr, aye aye ..15:53
vharithat's a wrap for bugs today ..15:53
vharithanks all for pitching in :D15:53
dviroelalready assigned myself to this last one15:53
vharidviroel++15:54
carthacadviroel ++15:54
gouthamrgreat thank you vkmc, dviroel, carthaca15:54
gouthamr#topic Open Discussion15:54
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)"15:54
gouthamrsince we have the holiday season coming upon us, if you are working on something and need help, please don't hesitate to seek help!15:55
gouthamrwe may also be canceling a bunch of meetings during the holidays15:56
gouthamreveryone def needs some downtime for all that 2020 is throwing at us :)15:56
dviroelfor sure15:57
gouthamralright everyone, see you all in #openstack-manila and elsewhere - stay safe!15:58
gouthamr#endmeeting15:58
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