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| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 15 15:02:20 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:02 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:02 |
| carloss | o/ | 15:02 |
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| andrebeltrami | hi | 15:02 |
| felipe_rodrigues | hi | 15:02 |
| carthaca | Hi | 15:02 |
| maaritamm | o/ | 15:02 |
| vhari | o/ | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: ganso vkmc lseki tbarron | 15:03 |
| tbarron | hi | 15:03 |
| lseki | o/ | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | hello everyone, thank you for joining - i've client troubles | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | #chair dviroel tbarron | 15:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: dviroel gouthamr tbarron | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | in case i get dropped off :) | 15:03 |
| dviroel | ack | 15:04 |
| tbarron | nack :) | 15:04 |
| * tbarron stands behind dviroel | 15:04 | |
| gouthamr | we have a super light agenda today, not much going on, so lets see if we have any ad hoc issues to speak about | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:05 | |
| gouthamr | this will be our last IRC meeting in October; the next meeting will be on 5th Nov 2020 here | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | but fear not, we're meeting at several occasions during the next couple of weeks | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | if you haven't done so already, please add these forum sessions to your schedule - and add any relevant topics to the associated etherpads | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24763/openstack-storage-for-containers | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-2020-forum-openstack-storage-containers | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24762/operational-concerns-for-openstack-manila | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-2020-forum-operational-concerns-manila | 15:07 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | the PTG schedule is more or less certain at this point, but, we haven't decided on the time slots yet - i'm speaking with friends working on cross project efforts to coordinate times | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | so as i mentioned last week, if you have a time slot preference for a topic you're interested in, please let me know | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/wallaby-ptg-manila-planning (Planning Etherpad) | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | the live schedule lives here: | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | #link http://ptg.openstack.org/ptg.html | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | in particular, if you have some ideas to share about edge architectures, please refer to this email: | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-October/017845.html (Edge Working Group) | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | tbarron has already replied to it, we *may* shorten our group's session on monday to participate - i'll keep you informed via email once we're sure | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | s/monday/Monday, Oct 26, 2020/ | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | now that we're done with that; i almost forgot that we shipped the Victoria release this week :) | 15:12 |
| tbarron | gouthamr++ all++ | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | we've toasted the many deliverables at various times in the cycle - here's to a final one | 15:13 |
| dviroel | \o/ | 15:13 |
| vhari | \o/ | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | thanks all for working hard on this release! | 15:13 |
| carloss | \o/ | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | and for those of you working on doc items, and bugfix backports to Victoria - we see you, and thank you! | 15:13 |
| dviroel | 🍻 | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | alright that's all i had in terms of announcements | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | anyone else got any? | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | great, we'll roll on through our regular programming | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | #topic Bugs (vhari) | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (vhari) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:16 | |
| gouthamr | o/ hey there vhari - we're here early :) | 15:16 |
| vhari | \o | 15:16 |
| vhari | hey gouthamr | 15:16 |
| vhari | have a few bugs to revisit today :) | 15:16 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1898791 | 15:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1898791 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Remove MANILA_MULTI_BACKEND from devstack script" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Lívia Cavalcanti (liviacavalcanti) | 15:17 |
| vhari | was recently reassigned - | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | ack, it's a low-wishlist item | 15:18 |
| vhari | looking if they need anything to proceed | 15:18 |
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| gouthamr | lets target it to wallaby-1; and see if the assignee has an update | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | it appears the assignee is trying to pick up the ropes for the upcoming outreachy internship | 15:18 |
| vhari | gouthamr, updated the bug fields | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | ty vhari | 15:19 |
| vhari | cool | 15:19 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1859762 | 15:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1859762 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) ""test_migration_files" test is not skipped when storage protocol is not NFS" [Undecided,New] | 15:19 |
| tbarron | INCOMPLETE? | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | hmmm, no response from the reporter - lets set this to invalid, and see if that gets their attention | 15:21 |
| tbarron | k | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | sure, incomplete, and let it expire if they don't update it | 15:21 |
| vhari | ack | 15:22 |
| vhari | moving on | 15:22 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1647915 | 15:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1647915 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "hardcord service nfs-kernel-server for debian distribution" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Akira KAMIO (kamio) | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | interesting | 15:23 |
| tbarron | is he saying it is broken in RH or in debian? | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | we used to test the LVM driver on CentOS for a long time, and we didn't hit this | 15:24 |
| gouthamr | i read it as "it's hardcoded for debian" (but shouldn't be) | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | ? | 15:25 |
| tbarron | seems plausible | 15:25 |
| tbarron | the error seems to be that we try to restart the service but it was never started/enabled in the first place? | 15:26 |
| tbarron | I can take this one and ask questions and try to reproduce. | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | yes, it's possible they didn't install the "nfs-kernel-server" package? | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | is such a package even available for centos/rhel - i dunno | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | but our documentation calls it out | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | found my answer - we ask that nfs-kernel-server be installed only in case of debian and suse: https://opendev.org/openstack/manila/src/commit/39efc2bde81c2a0c747a491d3a778b822ca263b8/devstack/plugin.sh#L684-L699 | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | vhari: unrelated to our triage, though, tbarron++ will investigate and follow up :) | 15:30 |
| vhari | gouthamr, got it .. | 15:31 |
| vhari | next up #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1893718 | 15:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1893718 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Fixed the logic that determines whether a share exists before manage a share" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to haixin (haixin77) | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | the fix is https://review.opendev.org/749173/ | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | however, i've a question for haixin that hasn't been addressed yet | 15:33 |
| vhari | ack - looping this back out for any updates | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | once we do, we'll get this in - i don't recall if this one needs to be discussed at the PTG - we're replacing a check in the API because that's kinda where the bug is | 15:34 |
| vhari | gouthamr, don't believe it was marked for PTG discussion | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | vhari: i can ask, we may see him at the PTG | 15:35 |
| vhari | gouthamr, will pencil it in | 15:36 |
| vhari | gouthamr, that's all the bugs for today | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | thanks vhari :) | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:36 | |
| vhari | yw, gouthamr | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | we have the room for another 23 minutes | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | we'll wait a couple of minutes in case there's anything to discuss | 15:37 |
| carthaca | re https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703025/ I saw that MaAoyu still has question to gouthamr and dviroel, can you have a look please? | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | ty carthaca | 15:38 |
| tbarron | Some folks may be interested in this container storage talk at summit: https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24634/connecting-ecosystems-how-cinder-csi-ember-csi-and-manila-csi-leverage-openstack-bits-in-kubernetes | 15:39 |
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| dviroel | ty carthaca, will take a look on the patch again. | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | carthaca: i suggested using the same session to grab the count of resources - do you think this optimization is necessary | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | i thought anyone doing pagination-with-count shouldn't suffer the double db round trip | 15:40 |
| gouthamr | because the resources are fetched twice, unnecessarily | 15:41 |
| gouthamr | and it will seem silly that we can't optimize because there are unit test failures | 15:41 |
| dviroel | we can help on fixing the unit tests if this is a problem for maaoyu | 15:42 |
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| gouthamr | dviroel: ack, or create a new db wrapper just for this use case | 15:43 |
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| gouthamr | dviroel: i think reusing the wrapper used elsewhere is the primary concern | 15:43 |
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| gouthamr | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/2020/summit-schedule/events/24634/connecting-ecosystems-how-cinder-csi-ember-csi-and-manila-csi-leverage-openstack-bits-in-kubernetes (Consider attending this summit presentation by tbarron et al. that will involve manila-csi) | 15:44 |
| tbarron | yeah, sorry to interrupt there, pardon my enthusiasm for $subject | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | ^ will get highlighted in the minutes | 15:45 |
| tbarron | I'm actually not a presenter but will be there for discussion and Q&A | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | oh | 15:45 |
| tbarron | fresh faces | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | :) | 15:46 |
| tbarron | but should cover when to use cinder-csi, manila-csi, ember-csi | 15:46 |
| tbarron | and maybe get into use cases for ceph-csi, trident in discussion, who knows? | 15:47 |
| tbarron | bring fruit to throw | 15:47 |
| dviroel | :) | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | ah, building the suspense | 15:47 |
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| * tbarron holds the radical position that openstack storage is appropriate | 15:48 | |
| tbarron | when running k8s on openstack | 15:48 |
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| gouthamr | you forget about cloud natives | 15:49 |
| tbarron | cloud native k8s doesn't need any stinking storage | 15:50 |
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| tbarron | that's old-fashioned | 15:50 |
| tbarron | just rewrite all your apps | 15:50 |
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| * tbarron thinks that's not what gouthamr meant by 'cloud natives' | 15:50 | |
| gouthamr | haha (: we'll never know | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | or maybe we will, on Monday - in teh forum session on "OpenStack Storage for Containers" | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | lol | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | okay, if there's nothing else, lets end this meeting and go brew some coffee or get a night cap, whichever is your preference | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | hope you all have a great summit week and a eventful PTG week following that | 15:53 |
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| gouthamr | remember that we won't meet here until Nov 5th - so please ping on #openstack-manila, or send email to openstack-discuss | 15:53 |
| tbarron | irish coffee for those who are in the middle | 15:53 |
| vhari | thanks gouthamr .. no objections here :D | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:54 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 15 15:54:22 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:54 |
| tbarron | ty! | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-10-15-15.02.html | 15:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-10-15-15.02.txt | 15:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-10-15-15.02.log.html | 15:54 |
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