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| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 23 15:00:58 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| amito | o/ hey | 15:01 |
| tbarron | yo | 15:01 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:01 |
| carloss | hi | 15:01 |
| andrebeltrami | o/ | 15:01 |
| danielarthurt | o/ | 15:01 |
| tbarron | amito++ | 15:01 |
| vhari | o/ | 15:01 |
| tbarron | that's a variable for his year-count | 15:01 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: ganso lseki | 15:02 |
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| amito | :) | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | o/ hello everyone! | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | hope you celebrated well, amito | 15:02 |
| lseki | o/ | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | here's the agenda for our meeting today: | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
| amito | gouthamr: yes, indeed we have :) | 15:02 |
| vkmc | amito, happy belated birthday :D | 15:02 |
| amito | vkmc: thanks! :D | 15:03 |
| lseki | 🎉 | 15:03 |
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| gouthamr | great, lets begin with | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:03 | |
| gouthamr | We had some new releases in the past week that i'd like to call your attention to | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-announce/2020-July/009554.html (manila 8.1.3 | stable/stein) | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-announce/2020-July/009577.html (manila-tempest-plugin 1.1.0 | victoria) | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | if you're testing manila with tagged versions of the manila-tempest-plugin, this one is our best one yet | 15:05 |
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| dviroel | \o/ | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | it fixes numerous historic issues we've lugged around | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | many thanks to everyone that worked hard for several weeks to get this out the door | 15:05 |
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| gouthamr | we're in week 12 weeks away from the Victoria release | 15:06 |
| * gouthamr changes thoughts midway often | 15:06 | |
| gouthamr | milestone-2 is next week | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | that is also our new driver deadline | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html (victoria release schedule) | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | i haven't seen any submissions so far, but there have been a couple of queries | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | there are also a number of bugs that are targeted for next week: | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/victoria-2 (m-2 bugs) | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | please take a look, and either polish up your patches, or retarget the bugs you're working on in case you need longer | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | that's all i had in terms of announcements | 15:10 |
| * gouthamr looks around the room | 15:10 | |
| amito | .. | 15:11 |
| amito | Short announcement from my side - | 15:11 |
| * gouthamr grips coffee | 15:11 | |
| amito | I recently moved on from Infinidat, and it's been a while even when I was there since I did any work on the Infinidat Cinder / Manila drivers. I hope I'll get some time in the future to get back to OpenStack, but for now - I'll have to drop my core status. | 15:12 |
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| amito | It's been great working with and meeting all of you, and I'll try to attend the meetings as much as possible and keep in touch :) | 15:12 |
| tbarron | amito: I'm very sorry you won't be working on OpenStack but hope your new work will be great. | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | amito: congratulations on your move! | 15:13 |
| amito | Thanks @tbarron, @gouthamr :) | 15:13 |
| tbarron | amito: I'll especially remember being snowed in at PTG in Dublin. | 15:13 |
| amito | @tbarron Yes, it's indeed a PTG to remember ^^ | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | +1, we're sad, but thank you so much for your work on Manila. we'll miss you around here | 15:14 |
| vkmc | :( | 15:14 |
| vkmc | congrats amito! | 15:15 |
| vkmc | you will be missed for sure | 15:15 |
| amito | Thank you @vkmc! :) @gouthamr I'll miss you guys as well, and I hope we'll get a chance to work together again in the future. I'll do my best to keep in touch :) | 15:15 |
| dviroel | amito: congrats and thanks for everything! hope to see your around in irc channels | 15:15 |
| vhari | amito, best of luck on your new work .. do stay in touch | 15:15 |
| amito | Thanks @vhari. | 15:15 |
| amito | Thanks @dviroel! | 15:15 |
| * gouthamr this guy surely uses Slack now at his new workplace | 15:16 | |
| amito | lol indeed we do | 15:16 |
| dviroel | lol | 15:16 |
| vkmc | I was remembering the snow people building we did in Dublin with ganso... thinking on which was the best OpenStack event we was (question the OpenStack Foundation folks did on social media) | 15:16 |
| vkmc | :D | 15:16 |
| amito | Yep I got confused with the @'s | 15:16 |
| vkmc | lol | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | Snowpenstack | 15:16 |
| carloss | thanks for your work in manila amito! wish you luck in your new job :) | 15:16 |
| amito | carloss: thanks :) best of luck! | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | good stuff, ty for sharing the news too, amito | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | anyone else have anything? | 15:18 |
| tbarron | better not, we can't handle any more happy news today | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | #topic Stable branch status | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:19 | |
| gouthamr | :) | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | alright we've had a much degraded gate on our stable branches for a while now | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | so a couple of weeks ago, we discussed closing stable/ocata and stable/pike | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-July/015869.html | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | since i've had the stable maintenance core take a look at stable/pike and tell me what's wrong | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | but, honestly, with all the things that are going on - i haven't had the chance to take a look | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | and as you're aware, the biggest lesson in open source PTL'ing is learning to say no | 15:22 |
| gouthamr | ^ could apply to all of you, as maintainers too | 15:22 |
| dviroel | +1 | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | here's a sheet that dviroel put together to track CI status for third party CIs | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mgjqpHB97HAzwvTmiMeLksSbOrtvdd_fsbs3vHK2l5c/edit#gid=332683504 (Manila CI tracker) | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | There's a sheet there to show you the CI status for Extended Maintenance | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | i'll follow up to the ML post and propose EOL patches to ocata and pike | 15:24 |
| tbarron | +1 | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | but, we're not doing that great on queens and rocky either | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | we have a centos-7 voting job in each of these branches, and there are very few devstack jobs that run on centos-7 on older branches | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | our centos-7 stable/queens job can benefit from this fix in devstack: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/736189/ | 15:26 |
| tbarron | hmm, have we tested stable/queens depending on that patch? | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: yes | 15:27 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: awesome, is it sufficient or just necessary? | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728472/ | 15:28 |
| tbarron | sufficient for lvm job! | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: it's necessary, the uwsgi fix that got backported to stable/queens works well on ubuntu, not on centos | 15:29 |
| dviroel | isn't the same issue that we have for centos-7 in stable/rocky? | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: we do have that issue, so i cherry-picked that fix to just check: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/I57e6219d675c951880808ced4e26c2344ef15cee | 15:30 |
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| gouthamr | sry, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689635/ | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | this is the cherry-pick: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/741030/ | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/e31a3d8c16ec45a995a7f73d844c6f19/log/logs/devstacklog.txt#7810 <--- the error | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | i didn't spend time checking for the fix, and its possible we're not constraining our reqs somehow | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | but, i could use some help getting these jobs back into shape | 15:34 |
| tbarron | The only reason we were using CentOS for lvm was an ubuntu IPv6 handling bug. I wonder if it has been fixed in Xenial. | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | so, if you have some cycles, let me know, and we can brainstorm | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: true, last i checked was a year ago, and the fix in question wasn't backported | 15:36 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: i'll do some checking just in case | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | ty tbarron | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: i'll find the missing patch, and we might have to resort to a workaround | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | 1) We could port the job to Xenial if there's support for ipv6 (iirc the bug was in exportfs) | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | 2) We could stop running ipv6 and port the job to xenial - this would be trivial, but we'd lose coverage | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | 3) Make the job non-voting for now, and figure out if we can fix it - there are other integration test jobs that do work to test regressions, except we run the risk of regression in the LVM driver, and in the ipv6 access-rules/exports code path | 15:40 |
| tbarron | I think #3 isn't bad because if we backport changes in that code path we could figure out a way to test them | 15:42 |
| tbarron | The chance that we have address-family specific changes in that code path to backport is not that big either. | 15:42 |
| * tbarron tempts fate | 15:43 | |
| gouthamr | a combination of 2 and 3 could work too - in case we have bugfixes to the LVM driver (there are some backports pending right now) | 15:43 |
| dviroel | 3) looks good, we can backport other important fixes to those branches and hold lvm related fixes | 15:43 |
| tbarron | agree with #2 + #3 so we can test changes to lvm that don't impact that path | 15:44 |
| tbarron | rather, that path and that address family | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | okay, anyone has any objections? | 15:44 |
| carloss | no objections from my side :) | 15:45 |
| gouthamr | okay, we'll work on 3) and 2) discuss on #openstack-manila | 15:46 |
| * gouthamr oh boy, we're just on our second topic | 15:46 | |
| gouthamr | any other concerns about stable branches | 15:46 |
| * gouthamr besides the 99 that we currently have? | 15:46 | |
| gouthamr | moving on.. | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | #topic Zuulv3 status | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Zuulv3 status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:47 | |
| gouthamr | as you all know this is one of the two goals that the wider openstack community has chosen to work on for the victoria cycle | 15:47 |
| gouthamr | #link https://tree.taiga.io/project/gouthampacha-manila-ci-zuul-v3-migration/kanban (Zuulv3 status tracker) | 15:47 |
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| tbarron | gouthamr: thanks for your great work on this and thanks to tosky for his great advice | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | ++ | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | we've ported all the tempest jobs so far | 15:48 |
| tosky | a lot of work, thanks for that, and an overdue refactor/cleanup | 15:48 |
| dviroel | gouthamr++ | 15:49 |
| carloss | gouthamr ++ | 15:49 |
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| gouthamr | lets begin with the easy ones: python-manilaclient, manila-ui and manila-image-elements should have no more legacy jobs | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | thanks for ack'ing the backports | 15:49 |
| gouthamr | there are legacy jobs in the EM branches - but, we'll get to those in our copious free time at the end of the release /jk | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/manila-tempest-plugin+topic:native-zuulv3-migration (porting tempest jobs) | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | i could use some code reviews to merge the last integration (tempest) job that's pending | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/740534/ (Add Zuulv3 native jobs for the dummy driver) | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | that's all for manila-tempest-plugin | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | moving on to the manila repo | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | we begin with the grenade job: | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/741727/ (Zuulv3 native grenade job) | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | there's a late W-1 from me, because gmann reminded me that we need to test the accessibility of the resources in the middle of the upgrade process | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/740509/ ([manila] assert:supports-accessible-upgrade) | 15:53 |
| * gouthamr slides in our tc request there | 15:53 | |
| gouthamr | i began working on that yesteday, and i should have an update very soon | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | but, just fyi - we'll use a real backend for our grenade job, and seeing as we have so many at our disposal, we might actually make two grenade jobs eventually - one for DHSS=True (future) and one for DHSS=False (now) | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | so once that's done, we'll need be able to get rid of grenade and tempest legacy jobs | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | in a patch that somewhat looks like this: | 15:55 |
| tosky | (... but just one is needed now for the porting goal and the TC tag) | 15:55 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671868/ ([victoria][goal] Native Zuulv3 CI jobs) | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | tosky: +1 | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | we'll still have a couple of legacy style jobs after all of this - and those pertain to our experiments in the past to get manila-image-elements builds tested | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | but those have remained experiments, since we haven't gotten them working in my memory | 15:57 |
| tbarron | agree | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | okay, that's the status update on this | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | any questions/concerns? | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | with that, time check | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | i apologize for mismanaging time and taking up the whole hour, but, i appreciate the productive conversation! | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | we'll take the remaining issues to next week | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | thank you all for attending, and participating... | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | stay safe! | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 23 16:01:00 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-07-23-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-07-23-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-07-23-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
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