Thursday, 2020-06-25

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 25 15:01:09 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
tbarronhi15:01
maaritammo/15:01
dviroelo/15:01
tbarrongouthamr never sleeps15:01
danielarthurto/15:01
carlosso/15:01
gouthamrcourtesy ping: ganso vkmc amito lseki andrebeltrami15:01
vkmco/15:01
gouthamrhaha, got distracted there for a minute15:01
andrebeltramio/15:02
gouthamrhello everyone, thanks for joining - looks like we have a pretty light agenda today!15:02
gouthamrhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:02
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:02
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gouthamrWe're in R-16 on the victoria release schedule15:03
gouthamr#link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html (victoria release schedule)15:03
gouthamrthat's two weeks away from the specs deadline15:03
gouthamrideally we want all specs that we're working on to merge by then15:04
lsekio/15:04
gouthamrif you anticipate any trouble, please bring it up this week or the next15:04
gouthamrthat said, reviewers, we've a couple of specs available for review15:05
gouthamrhttps://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/manila-specs+status:open15:05
gouthamrit's time to give these some review attention!15:06
gouthamrthat's all i had in terms of announcements15:07
gouthamrdoes anyone else have any?15:07
gouthamrThis change merged over the last week15:08
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/735667/ (Assign TC Liasons for the Victoria Cycle)15:08
gouthamrper that, i'd like to welcome gmann, cloudnull as the new liaisons for our project/s15:09
gouthamryou know who to contact on the #openstack-tc channel, if tbarron is on a holiday :)15:10
tbarronwelcome gmann cloudnull !15:10
dviroelawesome, welcome!15:10
carlosswelcome gmann, cloudnull :)15:10
gouthamr#topic CI/Gate Status15:11
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gouthamrjust wanted to keep you all in the loop of what the current status of the gate is15:11
gouthamras far as i am aware, there's now no problem with the main branch in manila as well as the stable branches upto stein15:12
vkmcgmann++ cloudnull++15:12
gouthamrdevstack changes for stable/rocky and stable/queens have not merged yet15:13
gouthamryou can see the latest status from elod here:15:13
gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015644.html ([all][tc][stable][qa] Grenade testing for Extended Maintenance stable)15:13
gouthamrwe're discovering that there's at least a few more changes necessary to get things working; so please stay tuned if you have any changes in these older branches15:14
gouthamrwe've had a degraded status on the python-manilaclient functional job15:14
gouthamra couple of fixes are possible there, i'm investigating the most favorable of them: coverting that job from its legacy definition to native zuulv315:16
gouthamrhowever that fix isn't the most expedient, there's some trial and error involved15:16
gouthamrwe'll see if i can get it worked out soon...15:17
gouthamranybody aware of any other issues?15:17
gouthamrfeel like third party CI was broken a lot too, when reporting on the main branch - i hope its fairly easy to fix these breakages15:18
gouthamrif not, please let us know or mail the openstack-discuss list and seek help..15:19
dviroelgouthamr: we'll check that later on our ci too15:20
gouthamrty dviroel15:20
gouthamr#topic Reviews needing attention15:20
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gouthamrwe're all in the middle of a bunch of things, so we'll skip the etherpad for the week15:21
gouthamrbut heads up, i'll go through these next week, and see if we have any progress - please update it on the etherpad if you're reviewing any of these patches15:21
gouthamr#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/manila-victoria-review-focus15:21
gouthamranything else we need to be looking at right away? apart from the specifications?15:22
gouthamralright, lets move on to the next slot15:23
gouthamr#topic Bugs (vhari)15:23
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gouthamrvhari isn't around today15:23
gouthamrbut she's kept the etherpad ready for us15:23
gouthamr#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new (Bug Triage etherpad)15:23
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/160715015:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1607150 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Tempest test for dr/readable replication fails because share has two active replicas" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Douglas Viroel (dviroel)15:24
gouthamrah, dviroel picked this up recently - can we put this to victoria-3, dviroel ?15:24
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dviroeli think that this issue is still around, we might have one of our guys working on this15:24
dviroelgouthamr: yeah, victoria-3 works15:25
gouthamrdviroel: awesome, thanks15:25
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/183964015:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1839640 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "NexenaStor5 NFS driver is not calculating provisioned_capacity_gb properly" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Alexey Khodos (alexey-khodos)15:25
gouthamrhmmm, alexey reported this issue, and owned it - so i'll just check with him about the status15:26
gouthamrits been around nearly a year too, so its likely not a medium priority as well - lets bump it down to low15:27
gouthamrany other thoughts on this?15:27
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/170066015:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1700660 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "DetachedInstanceError on trying to access share['share_server']" [Low,Triaged]15:27
gouthamroh boy this is an ooold and odd one15:27
tbarronAre we still hittiing this issue?15:28
gouthamrtbarron: i don't think we ever did - this was a tracker to investigate why drivers are hitting a DB error when the share server is "null"15:29
tbarronby hitting it I men do drivers still get the DB error?15:29
gouthamrnope, i think drivers handle it gracefully15:29
gouthamri think i was writing some new code when i hit this problem and wondered why we weren't returning primitives instead of handing db objects to the drivers15:30
tbarronSeems to me like lazy load is fine but ^^15:30
gouthamrdviroel carloss - does this ring a bell with any of your recent driver work?15:30
tbarronmanager shouldn't hand off db object to driver15:31
dviroelgouthamr: we face some issues with db objects in the driver recently15:31
dviroelgouthamr: when implementing create shares from snapshot in another pool15:31
carlossdviroel there is a workaround in the code for this, right?15:31
dviroelgouthamr: but we choose to convert to primitives before send to the driver15:32
tbarron+115:32
dviroelthis includes share_server info15:32
gouthamrdviroel: oh great!15:32
dviroelbut now, share-manager has lot of db to primitive conversions15:32
carlossan example https://github.com/openstack/manila/blob/e24a7402106f63e504cce053c0d2aff8f6709401/manila/share/manager.py#L445315:33
gouthamryeah... that's undesirable; but a workaround for now15:34
gouthamrwe could experiment with setting expire_on_commit to True in the sessionmaker15:34
gouthamras noted in the bug...15:34
gouthamrdviroel/carloss, could one of you update this bug with links to your recent work to workaround15:35
dviroelgouthamr: I think that I can test your solution during this cycle, since we are implementing new driver's interfaces15:35
gouthamrdviroel: awesome15:35
carlossdviroel++15:36
gouthamrwe'll keep this around as a "low" and see if we can try things in the db layer15:36
gouthamrthanks dviroel15:36
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/165163015:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1651630 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "should use glanceclient instead of novaclient for image list" [Low,New] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu)15:36
gouthamroh this is another old bug... we had a pretty good solution, but it broke the generic driver and we had to revert it15:37
gouthamri'll pop off the assignee15:37
tbarronI'm trying to remember how it broke the generic driver15:37
gouthamrtbarron: yes, logs are long gone, but we can revert the revert patch and see how the driver fares now15:38
tbarron+115:38
gouthamrcarloss - it's likely you'll hit this in your efforts around share server migration15:38
gouthamror maybe not, if you handle microversions carefully in the novaclient15:39
tbarronwe must have reverted under gate-breakage pressure and didn't revisit15:39
gouthamrthe thing is we *have* to make this change, or be stuck on a pre-2.36 microversion of nova15:39
gouthamrtbarron: yes, looks like it was close to an RC timeframe15:40
gouthamrany volunteers who'd like to investigate this?15:40
carlossoh, that's true15:40
carlossthat'd happen only if we chose to improve the generic driver, right?15:41
carlosss/chose/choose/15:41
gouthamrcarloss: choose to improve for the migration feature? yes15:42
carlossyes, thanks, that's what I meant :)15:43
gouthamrcool, we'll need some help with this tech-debt item - anyone here/reading - please assign it to yourself if you're willing to help!15:43
gouthamri'll post this discussion on the bug so we have context - likely the actions there are to revive that old patch, rebase and see what fails on the generic driver job15:44
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/148263315:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1482633 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "requests to SSL wrapped sockets hang while reading using py3" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc)15:44
gouthamrah, this one is Invalid, vkmc?15:45
vkmcI think so yes15:45
vkmclet me double check, we haven't hit this because we are deploying with uwsgi by default15:46
gouthamrvkmc: ack, and we've told folks to not use the old "manila-api" eventlet based wsgi interface15:46
vkmcyep15:47
vkmcgouthamr, do you consider we should debug and get this fixed though?15:47
gouthamrvkmc: iiuc eventlet's ssl is still broken on python3.715:47
vkmcIIRC we were depending on eventlet folks to fix this... there were not much we could do15:47
vkmcbut situation might have changed15:48
gouthamrvkmc: yes, i don't think its worth the investment - i know most folks are running manila-api with either uwsgi or mod-wsgi15:48
gouthamrvkmc: lets mark this invalid, if there's someone concerned, they'll open another bug against manila15:48
vkmck15:48
tbarron+1, if someone actually has this use case they should be complaining15:48
vkmcI'll mark it as invalid15:48
gouthamrvkmc: awesome, thank you!15:48
gouthamryay, we went through the whole thing, making vhari proud15:49
carlosshehe15:49
gouthamr#topic Open Discussion15:49
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gouthamrso this happened:15:50
gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015638.html15:50
dviroelawesome15:50
gouthamrpretty cool, but neutron-dynamic-routing got new lieutenants - thanks tobberydberg_ and frickler!15:51
gouthamrthe project lives on...15:51
dviroel\o/15:52
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gouthamralso thanks to tbarron for socializing our use case15:53
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gouthamranything else to discuss today?15:54
gouthamr... going once...15:54
gouthamrhaha, you don't want the countdown15:55
gouthamrthanks for attending everybody, keep reviewing! and stay safe15:55
tbarronthanks all!15:55
dviroelthanks15:55
gouthamr#endmeeting15:55
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vkmcthanks!15:56
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