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| gouthamr | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 18 15:01:01 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| tbarron | Hi | 15:01 |
| lseki | o/ | 15:01 |
| andrebeltrami | o/ | 15:01 |
| carloss | o/ | 15:01 |
| vhari | hi | 15:01 |
| gouthamr | courtesy ping: ganso vkmc amito dviroel danielarthurt | 15:01 |
| danielarthurt | o/ | 15:01 |
| carthaca | hi | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | hello everyone o/ | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | thanks for joining, i hope you're all doing well! The agenda for this meeting is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting | 15:02 |
| dviroel | o/ | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | let's begin as usual with, | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | #topic Announcements | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:02 | |
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| gouthamr | i hope you all had some light reading from this ML post | 15:03 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015494.html (PTG Summary) | 15:03 |
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| tbarron | gouthamr: ty for the work doing this summary | 15:04 |
| dviroel | gouthamr++ | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | sorry for the novel, but, if you feel there's something missing there, let me know - we'll revisit this when we review/commit the code we spoke about | 15:04 |
| tbarron | it's a great reference even if maybe not a potboiler thriller | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | haha, its like a memoir of a thriller | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | We're at milestone-1 | 15:05 |
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| gouthamr | that means we're a couple of weeks away from our specifications deadline | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | #link https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/schedule.html (victoria release schedule) | 15:06 |
| gouthamr | so this is a reminder to you if you want to propose specs for the victoria cycle, please do so by Jul 10 | 15:06 |
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| gouthamr | s/a couple/three | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | we'll discuss milestone-1 deliverables in a minute | 15:07 |
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| gouthamr | but, that's all i had in terms of announcements | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | anyone else got any? | 15:07 |
| * vkmc sneaks in | 15:08 | |
| gouthamr | with an announcement? :) | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | cool, lets move on with an ad-hoc topic | 15:08 |
| gouthamr | #topic Milestone-1 rollcall | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Milestone-1 rollcall (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:08 | |
| gouthamr | no bugs in python-manilaclient marked for m-1 | 15:09 |
| gouthamr | #link https://launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+milestone/victoria-1 (milestone-1 bugs in python-manilaclient) | 15:09 |
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| gouthamr | there's a new release already posted, it'll show up here https://releases.openstack.org/victoria/ soon-ish | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/735710/ | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | there're nothing from manila-ui either | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | #link https://launchpad.net/manila-ui/+milestone/victoria-1 (milestone-1 bugs in Manila UI) | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | lets review this list | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | #link https://launchpad.net/manila/+milestone/victoria-1 (milestone-1 bugs in Manila) | 15:10 |
| gouthamr | there're 12 bugs in-progress, 4 not in progress | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | i'll move all 4 of these to milestone-2 | 15:11 |
| gouthamr | is there anything in the in-progress list that we should pay attention to? | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | if not, we'll retarget them as well | 15:12 |
| gouthamr | we're using these milestones to track work through the cycle, and not much else - we don't make a release for manila at milestones anymore - but trunk consumers can see when a bugfix lands based on the milestone we target | 15:13 |
| gouthamr | *crickets* | 15:14 |
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| gouthamr | :) alright, please ping me/follow up on bugs that you own, or are reviewing | 15:14 |
| gouthamr | and let's update the statuses accordingly | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | any questions/concerns? | 15:15 |
| gouthamr | #topic CI/Gate Status | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI/Gate Status (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:15 | |
| gouthamr | late last week we hit an issue with uwsgi | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015432.html | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1883468 (stack.sh fails because uWSGI directory not found in lib/apache) | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1883468 in devstack "stack.sh fails because uWSGI directory not found in lib/apache" [Critical,In progress] | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1883715 (Manila API fails to initialize uwsgi) | 15:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1883715 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Manila API fails to initialize uwsgi" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Douglas Viroel (dviroel) | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | there have been fixes in devstack, and in manila (thanks, dviroel) | 15:16 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: np | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | on the main branch, as well as stable/ussuri, train and stein branches | 15:17 |
| tbarron | dviroel++ | 15:17 |
| carloss | dviroel++ | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | but, everything older - i.e., the extended maintenance branches are still broken | 15:17 |
| gouthamr | we don't use uwsgi on queens i think | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | by "we", i mean when deploying manila-api - but, because the rest of the projects do, devstack would be broken | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/631338/ --- iirc, we added this during stein | 15:19 |
| gouthamr | please keep a look out for this before "rechecking" on these older branches | 15:20 |
| gouthamr | anything else to add here, dviroel? | 15:20 |
| dviroel | i don't think so, but we'll need stable/rocky and stable/queens working again soon, to land a important fix | 15:21 |
| gouthamr | if you saw third party CI failing - this is likely the issue, but, i think dviroel/andrebeltrami hit some other issues in their CI | 15:21 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: yeah, it's almost healthy again | 15:21 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: we are updating the images at this moment | 15:22 |
| dviroel | do we have any job running on ubuntu 16.04? | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: what OS do you run the NetApp CI on? | 15:23 |
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| gouthamr | dviroel: we do, in rocky and queens | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: actually, most dsvm jobs in rocky/queens should be running on xenial | 15:23 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: migrating to 18.04 now | 15:23 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: ack, devstack was building uwsgi from source for xenial - so i'm not sure how that can be resolved | 15:25 |
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| dviroel | gouthamr: yeah, we might need a workaround for that | 15:25 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: we'll follow that up - one alternative is to use mod-wsgi, but i'm not sure the rest of the projects support that - devstack itself had a deprecation warning when we were testing with it | 15:25 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: ack, we can try that also | 15:26 |
| gouthamr | dviroel: if you're updating images, i suggest you update main branch testing with focal fossa | 15:26 |
| dviroel | gouthamr: we will do in the sequence | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | ^ same goes for all third party CI systems - given that we'll likely run into more issues like this in the future | 15:27 |
| gouthamr | any other concerns / questions? | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | cool, lets move on | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-victoria-review-focus | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | #topic Reviews needing attention | 15:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reviews needing attention (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:29 | |
| gouthamr | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-victoria-review-focus | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | is there anything on that list that needs to discussed? | 15:29 |
| gouthamr | i haven't gotten back to the zuulv3 goal since before the PTG - we should probably status check next week | 15:30 |
| gouthamr | but it generally looks like we're not paying attention to the reviews on this etherpad | 15:31 |
| gouthamr | :) kinda defeats the purpose - i'll start assigning reviews and reaching out this week | 15:32 |
| dviroel | yeah, doesn't seems to work with small changes/fixes, but do work when we are close to feature freeze | 15:32 |
| gouthamr | possibly, since we have deadlines for those | 15:33 |
| gouthamr | and bugfix deadlines are more relaxed | 15:33 |
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| gouthamr | lets see, i'll go down that list and chase people for status - if you own a change on the list, or have reviewed it, please leave a status message under the change | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | lets move on and discuss some bug backlog | 15:34 |
| gouthamr | #topic Bugs (vhari) | 15:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (vhari) (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:34 | |
| gouthamr | o/ vhari - floor is yours | 15:34 |
| vhari | gouthamr, ofc we have bugs to scrub :) | 15:35 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1639662 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639662 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Share service VM system to restart stuck" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Xiaoyang Zhang (es-xiaoyang) | 15:35 |
| vhari | easy one.. fix merged .. | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | oh, yes | 15:35 |
| vhari | can this be closed now? | 15:35 |
| gouthamr | vhari: yes, we can move this to "Fix Released", a milestone isn't necessary | 15:36 |
| gouthamr | bot went on a holiday | 15:36 |
| vhari | k | 15:36 |
| vhari | next up | 15:36 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1754428 | 15:36 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1754428 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "Tempest failure: manila_tempest_tests.tests.api.test_rules.ShareIpRulesForNFSTest.test_create_delete_access_rule_with_cidr fails intermittently" [Medium,Triaged] | 15:36 |
| vhari | need to know if this is still an issue .. | 15:37 |
| gouthamr | i think it is, we'll need to look on the logserver for recent failures | 15:37 |
| vhari | if so need to add minor triage info | 15:38 |
| gouthamr | vhari: ack, probably isn't an easy fix | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | vhari: i'll check if http://logstash.openstack.org/#/dashboard/ shows any occurrences and we can update the bg | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | bug* | 15:39 |
| gouthamr | lets loop back after this meeting on this one | 15:40 |
| vhari | gouthamr, ack .. repro info will help | 15:40 |
| vhari | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1772029 | 15:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1772029 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "ganesha library: update of export counter and rados object url index object racy" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ramana Raja (rraja) | 15:41 |
| vhari | looking for some update on this one too | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | hmmm, this looks like rraja's tracker - i wonder what's left to do in manila | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | the issue of atomicity of updates seems to be fixed in ceph itself | 15:42 |
| tbarron | I wonder if it's actually a supported configuration. | 15:42 |
| gouthamr | but he mentions, "The fix could will require changes to the ganesha library (in manila) and the ceph_volume_client library (in Ceph)." | 15:42 |
| tbarron | multiple manila driver instances using the same Ganesha | 15:42 |
| tbarron | server | 15:43 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: hmmm, that's a good point - what is supported/recommended when using multibackend? | 15:43 |
| tbarron | He might have seen that the code would be racy in such a circumstance but I think CephFS folks including rraja will say that there may | 15:44 |
| gouthamr | multifs hasn't been supported in ceph - until then, should we say you can only have one manila ceph-nfs backend per ceph cluster? | 15:44 |
| tbarron | be other issues Ceph side that you'd hit first. | 15:44 |
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| tbarron | Also, the plan is over time to migrate off the python-specific ceph_volume_client library, right? | 15:45 |
| tbarron | And it looks like rraja envisioned the fix to be in that library, not in manila driver itself? | 15:46 |
| gouthamr | hmmm, we won't stop using this code path (ceph-volume-client to write exports into rados) until ceph-mgr replaces that operation (it doesn't today) | 15:47 |
| tbarron | Agree, but it seems like he's saying it's over on the ceph library/mgr side of the fence. | 15:47 |
| tbarron | it == the work to fix | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | the bug report also says "The fix could will require changes to the ganesha library (in manila)..." | 15:48 |
| tbarron | i see | 15:48 |
| tbarron | because something changes on the other side and we need to adapt? | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | perhaps | 15:48 |
| gouthamr | vhari: we need some investigation | 15:50 |
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| vhari | gouthamr, ack | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | i'll post on this bug after this meeting | 15:51 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: I like your suggestion that we add a note in the ganesha doc indicating that currently running multiple ceph-nfs backends with the same ganesha server is not safe, with a link to this bug. | 15:51 |
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| gouthamr | tbarron: +1 | 15:51 |
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| gouthamr | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1600068 | 15:51 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1600068 in CephFS "ceph_volume_client: allow atomic updates of object" [Low,Closed: errata] - Assigned to ridave | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | ^ related bugzilla | 15:51 |
| tbarron | I doubt anyone is actually doing this though. | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | ack | 15:52 |
| vhari | gouthamr, so that's a wrap for bugs | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | awesome, ty vhari | 15:52 |
| vhari | yw gouthamr | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | #topic Open Discussion | 15:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:52 | |
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| gouthamr | so we had some concerning news from the neutron folks this week on the ML | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-June/015480.html ([neutron][neutron-dynamic-routing] Call for maintainers) | 15:53 |
| gouthamr | it appears that they're looking for helping hands, or they'll be deprecating this project | 15:53 |
| dviroel | oh | 15:54 |
| tbarron | Where do we rely on it? Only for Ipv6 environment? | 15:54 |
| gouthamr | we've used this service, in combination with quagga/zebra to test ipv6 data path | 15:55 |
| tbarron | specifically there, we need a way to advertise more specific cidr networks so that they are reachable on return paths | 15:56 |
| tbarron | at least that is my understanding, someone correct me if there's more to it | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | yes that's mostly it | 15:56 |
| tbarron | mostly? | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | our initial solution was to have something setup static return routes - but it got complicated real quick | 15:57 |
| tbarron | Cause I think we should discover what will be the gap and ask how to fill it, it can't be a manila-only need | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | it can't be, but i only see one response there so far | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | so if anyone here is interested in continuing to use that project, lets look at sharing the maintenance responsibilities | 15:58 |
| tbarron | I disagree, we shouldn't work on this. It's a diversion of resources. | 15:59 |
| tbarron | And there must be another good way to solve this problem if the project is languiishing. | 15:59 |
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| tbarron | There are major openstack distros that support IPv6 but don't support dynamic routing in OpenStack. | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | agreed; we're at the hour - lets take this to #openstack-manila | 16:00 |
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| tbarron | To be clear, if someone is really enthusiastic and interested | 16:00 |
| tbarron | kk | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | thank you all for attending, stay safe! | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2020/manila.2020-06-18-15.01.html | 16:00 |
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| priteau | #startmeeting blazar | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 18 16:03:06 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'blazar' | 16:03 |
| jakecoll | Hi priteau | 16:03 |
| priteau | Hi jakecoll | 16:04 |
| priteau | I haven't set any agenda for today | 16:05 |
| priteau | #topic AOB | 16:05 |
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| jakecoll | Cool. This can be quick. I am finalizing usage enforcement. | 16:05 |
| priteau | You've implemented it quickly, good to hear | 16:05 |
| jakecoll | I guess my only question is where do you think is a good place in the docs for this? | 16:06 |
| jakecoll | I was thinking doc/source/configuration | 16:06 |
| priteau | doc/source/configuration is really a Configuration Reference, for listing all configuration values | 16:08 |
| priteau | I would put it in doc/source/admin | 16:08 |
| priteau | Or https://docs.openstack.org/blazar/latest/user/ if some parts are important for users | 16:09 |
| priteau | We actually have Resource Monitoring in there which is really an admin feature | 16:10 |
| priteau | The configuration reference is automatically generated from config options registered in code | 16:10 |
| jakecoll | I'm not sure parts are important to users | 16:12 |
| priteau | Admin guide then | 16:12 |
| jakecoll | ok, that makes sense to me | 16:12 |
| jakecoll | I should get this up today if nothing else blocks me | 16:13 |
| priteau | Thanks a lot! | 16:13 |
| jakecoll | That's all I got if you want to end early | 16:15 |
| priteau | Nothing from my side. Thanks for joining! | 16:16 |
| priteau | #endmeeting | 16:16 |
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