Thursday, 2020-05-07

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:02
openstackMeeting started Thu May  7 15:02:27 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:02
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carlosso/15:02
lsekio/15:02
dviroelo/15:02
andrebeltramihello15:02
gouthamrcourtesy ping: xyang toabctl ganso vkmc amito tbarron15:02
danielarthurthi15:02
vhario/15:02
amitohi o/15:02
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gouthamrhello everyone, here's the agenda for today:15:03
gouthamr#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:03
tbarronhi15:03
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:03
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gouthamrthe final rc for ussuri is due today15:04
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/726132/ (Final RC proposal)15:04
gouthamr#link https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html (Ussuri Release Schedule)15:04
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gouthamrwe've not had any significant changes go into the stable/ussuri branch, but this RC catches up to the tip of that branch15:05
gouthamrplease add your votes to that patch, and speak up now if you know any blockers we must consider15:05
gouthamrnext week is release week, and also the first official week into the next cycle15:06
gouthamrhowever, if you looked at the bot spam on #openstack-manila, you'll see that we're already proposing many changes targeting the deliverables for victoria15:07
gouthamrthat's today's announcements, anyone has anything else they'd like to share?15:08
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gouthamrlets move on...15:09
gouthamr#topic OpenStack Ussuri Community Meetings15:09
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gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-May/014646.html (ML Post on Community Meetings)15:09
gouthamrThere're two virtual community meetings planned for next week15:09
gouthamrand it'll include a  short 5 min presentation on our progress through Ussuri and our plans around Victoria15:10
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vkmco/15:10
gouthamri'd encourage you to join this to get a pulse around what's happening around other projects as well15:11
gouthamrhopefully one of the slots is at a convenient time for you to make it15:11
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gouthamr#topic Victoria PTG15:12
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gouthamrWanted to bring the draft schedule for the upcoming PTG to your attention15:12
gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014567.html (ML Post with slots)15:12
gouthamrAs you can see on that email, we've slots for Monday, Tuesday and Friday15:12
gouthamrthese times overlap with cinder, slightly15:13
gouthamron tuesday and friday15:13
gouthamrYou can see the rest of the schedule here:15:13
gouthamr#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy (PTG Slot Signup sheet)15:13
dviroelgouthamr: yeah, np at all15:13
gouthamrwe've been assigned the "Cactus" room15:14
lseki🌵15:14
gouthamryet to get confirmation on where exactly this room is going to be... but, this looks like the most likely place15:14
gouthamr#link https://meetpad.opendev.org (Meetpad)15:15
gouthamr^ super excited that the folks at opendev-infra are working on a hosted etherpad+jitsi project!15:15
gouthamrif you have topics that you'd like to bring up, please make sure they're added here:15:16
gouthamr#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/vancouver-ptg-manila-planning (Victoria PTG Planning Etherpad)15:16
gouthamri'll groom this, reach out to the owners and add them into rough slots with the times we've reserved15:16
gouthamrmain thing to note is that we break our Tuesday's meeting into two slots15:17
gouthamrin the hope that our contributors from the east can join one of them15:18
* gouthamr copies lseki's emoji to the etherpad15:19
gouthamranything else about the PTG?15:19
gouthamr#topic Reviews needing attention15:19
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tbarronlseki++15:19
gouthamrWe've a new etherpad to track reviews15:20
gouthamr#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-victoria-review-focus15:20
gouthamrits not necessary to put your code submissions on this etherpad15:20
gouthamrbut, if you're not getting any attention, and would like us to discuss it or find you reviewers, i'll encourage you to add links to your patches there15:21
gouthamrwe'll try and maintain it through the release15:21
gouthamr^ reviewers, please take a look at this etherpad and see what's languishing for review and sign up15:22
gouthamri wanted to bring up the latter part of that etherpad15:23
gouthamrwe've been adding a number of patches to get our jobs converted to zuulv3 - this is a cycle goal for the victoria cycle15:23
toskyyep15:24
gouthamro/ tosky15:24
gouthamrwe've evolved some pretty heavy machinery around our existing "legacy" style jobs - and have bash scripts that do the heavylifting15:25
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gouthamrthese are a bit unorthodox and unreliable in the new world15:25
gouthamrwhile working on zuulv3, a part of the goal is also to run zuulv3 jobs on stable branches15:25
gouthamrits a stretch goal according to the original proposal15:26
gouthamrhowever, seeing as we maintain our stable branches with such care and commit fixes proactively most of the time15:26
toskycorrect: it's not mandatory, but I believe it makes things easier in the long run15:26
gouthamr++15:26
gouthamri took tosky's suggestion that we move these job definitions into the manila-tempest-plugin repository15:26
gouthamrsince this repo is branchless, we can go ahead and try to get everything to work there first, and then clean up jobs in the manila repo en-masse15:27
gouthamracross all stable branches of manila as well15:27
gouthamrwhile getting stuff to work, we've had to make a number of fixes to our devstack plugin15:28
gouthamrthese fixes are on the review etherpad at the bottom15:28
toskyyep; at least for the devstack-based jobs, everything should work (== all the changes were backported) from pike onwards15:28
toskyfrom the grenade side, right now it's just ussuri and master; it will be probably backported to train in a while, when it's proven to be stable15:29
toskybut at this point the bigger work is on the devstack jobs15:29
gouthamrah, ack15:29
gouthamri haven't taken a look at grenade yet, but that makes sense15:29
gouthamri think testing on our stable/pike branch is broken for a while now15:30
gouthamrsame as stable/ocata15:30
gouthamrhoping we'd get a chance to discuss if we should keep them around, and if anyone cares15:30
gouthamri'll add some notes and bring that up at the PTG15:31
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gouthamrbut, we've been taking fixes to stable/queens and things are working there, so it'd be good to take these bugfixes to stable/queens at least15:32
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gouthamrso if you see a bunch of backports making devstack plugin changes - this is it15:32
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gouthamrthese should be low impact changes that don't affect anyone else, but devstack users15:32
gouthamrso i'd like to get them in while we labor through job conversions in parallel15:33
gouthamrany concerns? suggestions?15:33
gouthamrif you want a big picture view, please consult this board that we're using as personal trackers so far:15:34
gouthamr#link https://tree.taiga.io/project/gouthampacha-manila-ci-zuul-v3-migration/kanban (taiga kanban board for zuulv3)15:34
gouthamrvkmc: looks like cephfs-native is ready for review - w00t15:35
gouthamroh, another thing while we're here15:36
vkmcgouthamr, D:15:36
dviroelgouthamr: looks like you are winning :)15:36
gouthamrdviroel: breaking things fast and early is the key15:36
gouthamrfast and early = 4+ cycles after zuulv3 debuts :P15:37
vkmcI can do that15:37
vkmcfixing things... well, that's another thing15:37
toskyiirc there is a weird errors in one of the jobs, but I couldn't find the issue yet, sorry15:37
gouthamrtosky: yes :|15:37
gouthamrhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/725763/15:37
gouthamr^ tempest config's not getting copied properly causing this one to fail15:38
gouthamrthanks for looking at it, tosky - my next experiment would be to re-enable glance and nova and see if that's anywhere related to this15:38
gouthamri ran that awk script from devstack/inc/meta-config locally, and things looked fine15:39
gouthamri had hoped to run a super-minimal job for container and dummy drivers since we don't test data path on either of their test jobs15:39
toskysomething is parsed incorrectly, maybe a quoting issue or something else15:39
gouthamrack.. i'll ping you outside of this meeting and follow up15:40
gouthamr"oh, another thing while we're here"15:41
gouthamrthis is also an opportunity to rationalize some of our jobs15:41
gouthamrwe've a "generic-single-backend" job that's functionally identical to "generic-multi-backend" - but from the naming you know the only difference, i doubt its worth keeping two jobs just to test single and multibackend style configurations15:42
toskymaybe they have different settings for the tempest tests?15:42
toskyor it doesn't matter?15:42
gouthamrslightly different, but they run the same set of tests15:43
gouthamrslightly different as in, we're spreading testing across multiple backends (same driver) as opposed to a single backend15:43
gouthamrwe also have a "scenario" job that does exactly the same things as the generic driver job, except runs only scenario tests15:43
gouthamrwe have a "generic-no-share-servers" job because we want to test DHSS=False, but that's also being done in LVM, ZFSOnLinux, Dummy and CephFS-{native, nfs}15:44
gouthamrsigh, so we'll try and chop off some of this excess workload in the check pipeline as necessary15:45
gouthamri've had some discussions regarding ^ with dviroel and carloss - especially in light of gate flakiness15:45
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tbarron+1 manila tests should focus on manila code as much as possible instead of integration testing openstack at tip15:46
gouthamrtime to start penciling in the coverage and see what we can remove and still maintain coverage while conserving test resources and reviewer sanity15:46
tbarronnot what was ever intended, but most of the failures are due to tip of openstack on master not integrating properly all the time15:47
gouthamr+1, its a nice goal, but if we have the ability to define periodic jobs too in case we want continuous coverage15:48
gouthamrs/if//15:48
gouthamrsorry for going on about this...15:48
gouthamrlet's table any further talk on this, and move on..15:50
gouthamrconcerns?15:50
gouthamrplease review the bugfix backports :)15:50
dviroelack15:50
gouthamr#topic Bugs (vhari)15:51
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vhari gouthamr, since we are almost out of time ..15:51
vharihere is an easy one :)15:51
vhari#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/187682015:51
openstackLaunchpad bug 1876820 in OpenStack Shared File Systems Service (Manila) "CI: manila-tempest-dsvm-postgres-container job is failing" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr)15:51
gouthamrhi o/ vhari - yes, sorry about that15:51
vharinw,15:51
vharistatus needs update? in progress15:52
gouthamrit is an easy one :)15:52
vharibut fix merged15:52
gouthamrack, my bad for not setting those fields15:52
vharichecking in case I missed something15:52
vharicool ..15:52
vharigouthamr, ty15:52
gouthamrthis is a high, because it broke the container job15:52
gouthamrbut, it's being worked around and i'll create another bug to address the main issue15:53
gouthamrdone15:54
vhari:) that's a wrap for bugs15:54
gouthamrgreat thank you for your patience and effort with the triage vhari!!15:55
gouthamr#topic Open Discussion15:55
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gouthamrwe've all of five minutes15:55
vharigouthamr, yw15:55
gouthamrlets talk some more zuulv3?15:55
gouthamrokay no, i was kidding :)15:55
tbarronis zuulv4 out yet?15:56
gouthamrtbarron: might skip that version and ship zuul5 :)15:56
gouthamralright everyone, thank you so much for joining. I hope everyone continues to keep safe and healthy15:57
gouthamrsee you all on #openstack-manila15:57
gouthamr#endmeeting15:58
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priteau#startmeeting blazar16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu May  7 16:00:44 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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priteau#topic Roll call16:00
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jakecollHi Pierre16:11
priteauHi jakecoll16:12
priteauThanks for joining16:12
priteau#topic Virtual PTG meeting16:12
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priteauI've booked some provisional time for meetings during the PTG week16:13
priteau#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy16:13
diurnalistapologies for being late, these meetings seem to always happen when i'm firefighting ;)16:13
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priteauHi diurnalist16:13
priteaujakecoll: these two slots are good for you too?16:15
priteau- Tuesday June 2, 13:00 - 14:00 UTC16:15
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priteau- Thursday June 4, 13:00 - 15:00 UTC16:15
priteauWe won't necessarily use two hours on June 4, only as much as needed16:15
priteauSorry for the early start...16:16
jakecollYes16:16
jakecollThey work for me16:16
priteauGreat. I will send a message on the openstack-discuss mailing list to confirm16:17
priteau#topic Upstream contributions16:17
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priteaujakecoll: you wanted to give an update about what you've been working on?16:18
jakecollWe are trying to deploy the resource properties api right now to prod.16:18
jakecollThere's still some housekeeping needed before it can be pushed upstream.16:19
jakecollAlso, just getting started on the usage enforcement implementation.16:19
priteauNice! Good to hear16:19
jakecollThe later I'm gonna develop on upstream code and then patch back to Chameleon.16:21
priteauFeel free to publish WIP patches if you want early feedback16:21
jakecollWe'll include a tempest test for usage enforcement. Once I figure out how to do that I can circle back to network code.16:21
jakecollHow do you flag something as a work in progress?16:22
priteauAn unwritten convention is to put WIP: or [WIP] at the beginning of the commit message16:23
priteauBut more importantly voting Workflow-1 in Gerrit on it16:23
jakecollnice, thanks16:24
priteauThanks for the update. Nothing on my side I am afraid16:25
priteau#topic AOB16:25
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priteauToday is the Ussuri final RC deadline16:26
priteauNo new bugs to report?16:26
jakecollNot on our end16:26
jakecollHow is going in England? You all still under stay-at-home orders?16:27
priteauRC1 should be final RC then16:27
priteauI live in France now. Lockdown will start easing from Monday16:27
priteauAnd in IL?16:28
jakecollHard to tell. They say we're in a downward slope, but the numbers are still pretty bad.16:28
jakecollWe'll be locked inside until end of May16:29
priteauGood luck then!16:30
priteauThat's all for today then16:30
diurnalistthanks all16:30
priteauStay safe and write code ;-)16:30
jakecoll:+1:16:31
priteau#endmeeting16:31
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