Tuesday, 2020-04-21

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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 21 09:00:09 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
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priteau#topic Roll call09:00
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priteauHi tetsuro_09:03
tetsuro_hi09:03
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priteauNo one else it seems, let's start09:05
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priteau#topic Virtual PTG meeting09:05
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priteauAs you probably know, the coming PTG event has gone virtual09:06
priteauWe've been ask to pick meeting times09:06
priteauThere are fixed meeting slots to encourage synchronisation of breaks09:07
priteauSpreadsheet of meetings slots: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy09:07
priteauFor us (Japan / Europe) I think the candidate slot would be towards the end of the 0400-0800 UTC time slot09:08
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priteauOne obvious candidate is Tuesday, but I've prepared a Doodle pool to gather feedback09:09
priteau#link https://doodle.com/poll/ze48y7f8g7vsuzeq09:09
priteauPlease enter your availability09:10
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priteau#action priteau start an Etherpad of discussion topics for Blazar Victoria PTG meeting09:11
priteau#action everyone Fill Doodle pool https://doodle.com/poll/ze48y7f8g7vsuzeq09:11
priteauGiven the low activity at the moment we probably need no more than two hours.09:12
priteauI'll also organise another slot for Europe / Americas09:12
priteautetsuro_: Do you have conflicts we should avoid? Nova, placement/09:13
tetsuro_It would be better not to conflict with Nova meetings09:15
tetsuro_but I think I can make non-conclicting slot for placement-specific topics since we don't have much topics09:16
tetsuro_so...let's just make a scheule based on what I've put in the doodle09:17
priteauI'll share the Doodle pool with other contributors and we'll select based on this.09:18
priteauTentatively it could be on Tuesday June 2, 0600 to 0800 UTC09:19
tetsuro_Thanks, LGTM. I just picked up comfortable time slots for JST(japan std time) but I can make myself attend anytime, since this is much easier than traveling physically09:20
priteauWe will try to keep it civilised ;-)09:22
priteauStart of an Etherpad: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/blazar-ptg-victoria09:23
priteauAnything else to share about the PTG?09:24
tetsuro_Not from my side09:25
priteau#topic Ussuri release09:27
*** openstack changes topic to "Ussuri release (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:27
priteauThis week is RC1 target week09:27
priteauNow is a good time to merge any outstanding bug fixes09:28
priteauUnfortunately we haven't heard back from the original reporter about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/719456/09:28
priteauI will email directly09:28
priteau#action priteau to email Sam Morrison about https://review.opendev.org/#/c/719456/09:29
priteauWe could merge this before branching, always one dependency less to install: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720906/09:31
priteauThere's a strange ordering of imports in https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720906/1/blazar/tests/utils/openstack/test_neutron.py09:33
priteauI'll check and update the patch if needed09:35
priteauAnything else on Ussuri release?09:35
priteauI guess not, let's wrap up09:38
priteau#topic AOB09:38
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priteauAnything else to share this week tetsuro_?09:38
tetsuro_nope09:38
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priteauUpdated mock drop patch at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720906/09:40
priteauThat's all from me today also09:40
priteauHave a good week!09:40
priteauThanks for joining09:40
priteau#endmeeting09:40
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gagehugo#startmeeting openstack-helm15:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 21 15:00:19 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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gagehugo#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting agenda15:00
gagehugoo/15:01
stevthedevo/15:01
lamto/15:01
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gagehugogive folks a couple more mins then we can start15:03
gagehugo#topic open discussion15:05
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gagehugoJust a reminder that the weekly meeting agenda will now always be here: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/openstack-helm-weekly-meeting15:05
gagehugoDoes anyone have anything they want to discuss or reviewed?15:06
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stevthedevSorry, I didn't come with anything prepared today15:09
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gagehugoit's ok, it's still early in the week :)15:10
gagehugothanks stevthedev lamt, have a good rest of the week15:10
gagehugo#endmeeting15:10
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stevthedevThanks, you too15:11
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knikolla#startmeeting keystone17:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Apr 21 17:00:04 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is knikolla. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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knikollao/17:00
vishakhao/17:00
cmurphyo/17:00
knikollahow's everyone doing?17:00
bnemeco/17:01
cmurphydying from pollen but otherwise alive17:01
lbragstado/17:01
gagehugoo/17:01
vishakhaDoing Fine. Lockdown is here in India.17:01
knikollacmurphy: hope you feel better17:02
knikollai took some claritin for the first time, just to realize that my body doesn't like claritin.17:03
cmurphyoof17:03
knikollaalright, we have quorum. let's start :)17:04
knikolla#topic Announcements17:04
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knikollaNext EOW week is RC117:04
knikollaerr, this week17:04
knikollatime flies.17:04
cmurphyI scanned the bug list and didn't notice anything release-critical so didn't mark any bugs for the rc1 milestone17:05
knikollaThat's good!17:05
knikollaWe can talk about final things we want to get in before release in review requests17:06
knikollamoving on17:06
knikolla#topic PTG Planning17:06
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* knikolla hands off mic to cmurphy 17:06
cmurphyso the people in charge announced a format for the virtual ptg so we can start thinking about how we want to organize ourselves17:07
cmurphywe still have our planning etherpad, if you plan on attending please keep the attendee list up to date17:07
cmurphy#link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yvr-ptg-keystone17:08
cmurphy#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014126.html planning email17:08
cmurphyit will be june 1-5 and we can sign up for four-hour sessions, i think we could maybe do sessions on wednesday and thursday in the 13-17 utc time slot which is when we usually do our other virtual gatherings17:09
cmurphyany thoughts on that? is two four-hour sessions enough? too many?17:10
cmurphyis that time workable for most or should we create a poll?17:10
cmurphy#link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/126u8ek25noy time slots17:10
gagehugothat works for me, but a poll would be fine as well17:11
knikollai would go for a poll, since we might have outside participation.17:11
cmurphythat's true17:12
knikollaA mailing list announcement with the etherpad and poll would advertise our sessions to external people.17:12
knikolla(almost typed eternal people)17:12
cmurphythem too :)17:12
cmurphyokay works for me17:14
knikollaokay :) moving on.17:14
knikolla#topic L1 Bug Duty17:15
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knikollaCurrent person on duty is vishakha, anything to highlight?17:15
vishakhaThere wasn't any new bug in this week17:15
knikollaCool!17:16
vishakhaI analysed the last week bugs and pushed patches mentioned in the review requests17:16
knikollaThanks, we can talk about those in next topic17:16
knikollacmurphy: still good for this week?17:17
cmurphyknikolla: yep17:17
knikollaalright, i can take the next, since people covered for me once.17:17
knikolla#topic Review Requests17:18
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knikollafloor is all yours vishakha17:19
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vishakhaThere are patches ready for two bugs, not much critical though17:20
vishakhahttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/720789/ Fixes Bug 187273217:20
openstackbug 1872732 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "no user limit of ec2 credentials" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872732 - Assigned to Vishakha Agarwal (vishakha.agarwal)17:20
vishakhahttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/721267/ Fixed Bug 187275317:20
openstackbug 1872753 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Updating EC2 credential blob can lead to a ec2 credential id / credential id mismatch" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1872753 - Assigned to Vishakha Agarwal (vishakha.agarwal)17:20
knikollaOne of them creates a new config option, I'm not sure how I feel merging that past feature freeze.17:21
cmurphyfor 720789 i haven't looked at the code but if it's adding a config option we can't merge it yet as we're past feature freeze17:21
cmurphyknikolla: jinx17:21
knikollahaha :)17:21
cmurphyit's also past string freeze and adding a config option adds strings that need translation17:22
vishakhacmurphy: knikolla okay thanks. I thought so17:22
cmurphyfor 721267 i think the tempest failure shows why we can't change the id of a resource out from under it, we need a different approach17:23
vishakhacmurphy: But the id of the ec2 creds will be changed when an access ID of the blob of ec2 creds is changed17:24
cmurphymaybe it shouldn't allow changing the access id17:25
knikollaDo we need EC2 credentials to be mutable?17:26
cmurphyyes i think so, the secret in the blob should at least be changeable17:27
cmurphyi mean if we were designing it from scratch i would say no, just delete and recreate if you need to change it, but it's already here and PATCH is already allowed17:27
knikollatrue17:28
vishakhaShould I raise exception if anyone tries to change access_Id?17:29
knikollathough, we already treat credentials of type EC2 as special, and they're broken anyway after update17:29
knikolla(just thinking out loud)17:30
cmurphyknikolla: so you think just block PATCH if type == ec2?17:31
knikollacmurphy: the bug is that ID of the credential should be recalculated, right?17:32
knikollaI don't think we have any other case where we update the ID of an object.17:32
cmurphyif it's recalculated then anything that was referring to it by its resource id has now lost it17:35
cmurphywhich i feel like misses the point of having a resource id kinda17:36
knikollagagehugo, lbragstad: opinions?17:37
cmurphylol this api is such a pita17:37
lbragstad^ +117:37
gagehugohaha17:37
knikollaIKR, on one case you have to treat a very specific entry in the body as special and change the id of the entire resource. on the other you have to block patch on a very specific entry in the body.17:38
gagehugoupdating the id seems off17:39
cmurphyimo it's not release critical, we could put a pin in it and talk about it next week, i might have some better answers by then17:40
knikolla++17:40
vishakhacmurphy: knikolla thanks17:40
cmurphythanks for looking into it vishakha17:40
knikollabased on this, i'm also thinking of just deprecating changes to updating credentials entirely.17:40
knikolladeprecating changes to*17:41
knikollamight have to talk to my therapist about those first.17:41
knikollamoving on17:41
cmurphywe could deprecate but not remove without a v417:41
knikollaargh... true17:42
knikolla#topic Open Floor17:42
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cmurphythanks knikolla for chairing :)17:43
knikollayou're welcome :)17:43
knikollathanks for doing that for ~1yr.17:44
cmurphy:)17:44
lbragstad++17:44
* knikolla realizes he moved to the US ~6yrs ago.17:45
* bnemec fondly remembers 6 years ago17:45
cmurphytime flies :)17:45
knikollaon that fond note, and thinking about fondue...17:46
knikolla#endmeeting17:46
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