Thursday, 2020-01-23

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 23 15:01:53 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:01
lsekihi15:01
tbarronquack15:02
carlosshey! :)15:02
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gouthamr#chair tbarron15:02
openstackCurrent chairs: gouthamr tbarron15:02
gansohello15:02
vkmchowdie15:02
vhario/15:02
gouthamr\o/ fam!15:02
dviroelo/15:02
maaritammo/15:02
gouthamrcourtesy ping: xyang toabctl amito jgrosso15:02
danielarthurthi15:02
gouthamrwelcome, here's our agenda today:15:03
gouthamr#link: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:03
gouthamrlet's begin with15:03
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:03
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gouthamrLess of an announcement, more of an acknowledgement15:04
gouthamrThank you tbarron for leading this meeting for the past month15:04
tbarrongouthamr: yw15:04
gouthamri've been AWOL for good and bad reasons - but i'm back now :)15:04
gouthamrA reminder of where we are in the release15:05
gouthamrIt's week R-1615:05
gouthamr#link: https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html15:05
gouthamrwe've no deadlines this week15:05
gouthamrour next one is R-13, the Milestone-2 deadline15:06
gouthamrwhich also happens to be the Manila Spec Freeze and Manila Driver Deadline15:06
* vkmc googles awol15:06
amito(hi)15:06
gouthamrI don't see any new drivers being proposed yet, please keep a look out for any late entrants15:06
* gouthamr checks amito's hall pass15:07
gouthamrPlease propose any spec changes as early as you can as well, so we have sufficient time to review15:07
gouthamrThat's all i had, in terms of announcements - i'm still catching up15:07
gouthamrdid i miss anything major?15:07
gouthamr...moving on...15:08
gouthamr#topic Tracking our work15:08
carlossI have an announcement :)15:08
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gouthamr#undo15:08
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #topic Tracking our work15:08
gouthamrgo ahead, carloss15:08
carlossI'd like to welcome danielarthurt, our new zorilla!15:08
gouthamroh sweet, hey danielarthurt!15:09
gouthamrwelcome15:09
dviroel\o/15:09
danielarthurtHello everybody :)15:09
dviroeldanielarthurt++15:09
vkmcwelcome danielarthurt!15:09
tbarronwelcome danielarthurt !!!15:10
vhariwelcome danielarthurt :)15:10
lsekidanielarthurt: 🎉15:10
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andrebeltramiwelcome danielarthurt!15:11
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danielarthurtThank you all15:11
carlossThat's all I had :)15:11
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gouthamrnice to have carloss dviroel lseki andrebeltrami and my favorite netappers to get you familiar around here, danielarthurt - feel free to ping the rest of us anytime15:11
gouthamrgreat thanks carloss15:11
gouthamr#topic Tracking our work15:11
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gouthamrI'd like to call your attention to a few trackers we created last month15:12
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gouthamrthey track some of our longer/stretched out efforts15:12
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gouthamr#link https://tree.taiga.io/project/gouthampacha-openstack-manila-osc-integration-with-python-manilaclient/ (Manila OSC integration work, cc: maaritamm vkmc et al.)15:12
gouthamr#link https://tree.taiga.io/project/gouthampacha-openstack-manila-active-active-ha-for-manila-share/ (Manila-Share A-A)15:12
gouthamr#link https://tree.taiga.io/project/gouthampacha-openstack-manila-container-storage-interface/ (Manila CSI)15:13
gouthamrplease send me a note in case you'd like to be added to these boards and that'll give you permission to create new tasks, move things around etc15:13
gouthamrif you're interested in more boards, let me know as well - this is an experiment to see if we will benefit from having more fine grained task tracking15:14
gouthamrany questions/concerns?15:15
gouthamrnext up,15:16
gouthamr#topic: Specifications15:16
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gouthamrthis is sort of a sticky topic in this meeting15:16
gouthamrwe've two unmerged specs for now15:16
gouthamr#link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/692330/ (Support query user messages by timestamp)15:17
gouthamrthis has a lot of reviews, i'd encourage others to take a look as well15:17
gouthamri'll target to merge this today/tomorrow and take any concerns to code reviews15:17
gouthamr#link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700776/ (Update Create Share from Snapshot in Another Pool)15:18
gouthamrThis one has had lesser eyeballs15:18
gouthamrbut is probably familiar since it was proposed during Train and has had some soak time15:18
gouthamrplease take note of the changes dviroel's proposing and give him your feedback - i'll hope to merge this one soon, perhaps as early as next week15:19
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dviroel=)15:20
gouthamri don't see anything else that was proposed recently15:20
gouthamrbut i know we had some discussions at the PTG about features that needed specs15:20
gouthamrwe'll bring them up here as they get proposed15:21
gouthamranything else regarding this $topic?15:21
gouthamr#topic Graduating experimental features - Where things are15:21
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gouthamrthis item was discussed during the Virtual PTG15:22
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gouthamrwe've three experimental features that haven't graduated:15:22
gouthamr1) Share Groups 2) Share Replication and 3) Share Migration15:22
gouthamrwe don't have any outstanding issues that i can recall for Share Groups15:23
gouthamrso, if anyone is interested, removing the "experimental" API off this feature would be a fun patch to work on15:23
gouthamrany concerns?15:23
gouthamrokay, none i suppose... which is good/expected15:24
gouthamrif you'd like to take this up, please let me know15:25
gouthamrit'd be nice to get this in before milestone 2 so we have sufficient test cycles beyond15:25
carlossI'd like to help working on this15:25
carlossWe kinda talked about this in the virtual PTG :)15:26
vkmcgouthamr, relying on ci is enough for this change?15:26
vkmclike, we remove the experimental tag and we assume that those features are no longer experimental for the backends we currently support15:26
gouthamrawesome, yes, carloss - i'll pencil it in, ping me in case you need any help with it15:26
vkmcwith no further testing15:26
gouthamrvkmc: i think so, we have had good test coverage15:27
carlossok gouthamr15:27
vkmccool15:27
gouthamrvkmc: groups are generic, so tests must be running against all backends15:27
gouthamriirc only a couple of backends do something about groups - cephfs being one of them15:27
vkmcgouthamr, yeah, I was thinking more on repl y migration15:28
vkmcand+15:28
gouthamrsome backends can take consistent group snapshots - that's handled the same way as we handle share type extra-specs15:28
gouthamrvkmc: si :) coming to those next15:28
vkmchaha15:28
tbarronjaja, yo tambien15:29
gouthamrReplication - thanks to ganso dviroel carloss lseki - we filled the feature parity wrt DHSS=True15:29
gouthamrquotas are the open concern15:30
gouthamrcarloss has been working on fixing that15:30
carlossyep15:30
gouthamranything else that we can think of?15:30
gouthamri think we'll bring this one up when quotas are fixed15:32
tbarron+115:32
gouthamrShare Migration is the last one15:33
tbarroncarloss++15:33
gouthamrthis one has been stable for a few releases, however, we know we had some work to do before calling it done15:33
gouthamrwe'd need to find/read ganso's old specs and see if we can find an owner to revive those15:34
tbarronganso: please come back, we miss you15:35
gouthamrif anyone's interested in owning this feature, great way to contribute, let us know and we'll help15:37
lsekitbarron++15:37
gouthamrThat's all i had wrt this $topic15:37
carlosstbarron++15:37
gouthamranything else?15:37
gouthamr#topic: Reviews needing attention15:37
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gouthamrcouple of UI changes that i wanted to talk about today15:38
gouthamrhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/689681/ (Add create share type with description)15:38
gouthamr#link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689681/ (Add create share type with description)15:39
gouthamr#link: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/683336/ (Add update share-type name description and/or public access)15:39
gouthamrhiaxin's work's been up for a while now15:39
vkmctbarron++15:39
vkmcui \o/15:40
gouthamri'm currently investigating the python-manilaclient "fix" that's required to unblock these15:40
gouthamrgonna be asking vkmc for reviews soon-ish :)15:40
vkmcgouthamr, maaritamm started looking into the ui15:40
vkmcwe had this bump microversion work pending15:41
vkmcto unblock haixin patchs15:41
tbarrongouthamr: thank you for looking at that, i've been feeling bad for letting that linger15:41
gouthamrvkmc: ohh, i recall a patch to bump one microversion15:41
vkmcdefo we will need some eyes15:41
vkmcfor those patches15:41
vkmc<gouthamr> i'm currently investigating the python-manilaclient "fix" that's required to unblock these <- remember this but I'm not entirely sure what was the conclusion15:41
vkmcwas discussed on the virtual ptg15:41
gouthamrvkmc: ack, let's discuss - i thought we can unblock these independent of those changes by fixing the SDK15:42
gouthamrvkmc: yes, we agreed during the PTG that we'll fix the SDK for the deprecation/replacement of the access rules API15:42
gouthamrthe offending microversion is https://docs.openstack.org/manila/latest/contributor/api_microversion_history.html#id4015:43
gouthamrso, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/689681/6/manila_ui/api/manila.py seems harmless to me on first glance15:43
vkmcgood point15:43
gouthamrvkmc: i'll consult with you and maaritamm on #openstack-manila15:44
vkmcsure thing15:44
gouthamris there anything else that needs immediate attention?15:44
gouthamrif nothing, let's go to our new Bug Czar15:45
* gouthamr is it a bird, is it a plane, ...15:46
gouthamr#topic: Bugs (vhari)15:46
vharigouthamr, interim Bug Czar :)15:46
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gouthamroh ho15:46
vharigouthamr, thanks, with all ado .. here's 1st bug for today15:47
vharihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/185947415:47
openstackLaunchpad bug 1859474 in Manila "Low datetime precision leads to inconsistent order of shares" [Undecided,New]15:47
gouthamrty for noting this vhari15:47
vharigouthamr, yw15:48
gouthamrneeds triage, mysql is hungry and eating up numbers15:48
gouthamrnice of the reporter to give us a code patch, lets invite them to propose it15:49
vharifloating this out in case anyone has thoughts for Dmitry15:49
vhariack15:50
vharimoving on15:50
vhariif no other comments15:50
gouthamri'm vaguely familiar with this behavior, the fix looks appropriate to me15:50
dviroellooks like he already merged in their repo also15:50
gouthamrin summary, in case of mysql backends, ensure there is explicit precision in the datetime15:51
gouthamrno effect if sqllite or postgres15:51
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gouthamrdviroel: oh15:51
tbarroni'm really glad he's taking the change upstream!15:52
vharigood info, will add notes to the case ^^ ty dviroel, gouthamr15:52
gouthamrwe'd have to ensure this applies to all resources in the DB, not just shares - vhari: if you're willing, lets ask if the reporter can propose the fix, and/or if they need any help from us in doing so15:52
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gouthamrty vhari!15:53
vharigouthamr, ofc makes sense, will do15:53
vharik, next15:53
vharihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/184827815:53
openstackLaunchpad bug 1848278 in Manila "tempest extend/shrink tests may use wrong share export location" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Tom Barron (tpb)15:53
tbarronvhari: don't believe the reporter15:54
vharitbarron, :D15:54
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tbarronvhari: i've got a patch somewhere to propose for this one15:54
tbarroncan move it to assigned15:54
vharibtw in case want to comment offline - bug etherpad  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad-new15:55
vharitbarron, ty, will do .. well this was easy!15:55
tbarronand maybe really Importance is low, it's test only15:55
gouthamrtbarron: only these tests, or all tests pick up exports at random and fail?15:55
tbarrongouthamr: tbh I forget15:56
gouthamrtbarron: ack, i'll bump down the importance, we can re-target as well, lemme know15:56
tbarronU-2 might be reasonable15:56
vhariwell, clock's ticking .. will keep the rest for next time :)15:56
* tbarron needs coffee15:56
vharithanks everyone, gouthamr15:56
vkmccoffee15:57
gouthamrawesome, ty vhari15:57
vkmcit has been so long15:57
gouthamr#topic: Open Discussion15:57
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tbarronvkmc: let's go get coffee in a few15:57
vkmcgreat topic for open discussion15:57
vharigouthamr, yw15:58
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gouthamrthank you all for attending15:59
gouthamrlets catch up on #openstack-manila15:59
vkmcoh15:59
vkmcreviews for openstackclient patches please15:59
vkmclseki++15:59
vkmcthanks for checking those out15:59
vkmc:)15:59
tbarronvkmc++16:00
gouthamrhaha! yes, ty vkmc16:00
vkmcthere are two that are ready for the final push16:00
lseki:-)16:00
vkmcDONE16:00
gouthamrand ty maaritamm, lseki16:00
* vkmc runs away16:00
gouthamr'bout time16:00
gouthamr#endmeeting16:00
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