Tuesday, 2019-05-21

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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:00
openstackMeeting started Tue May 21 09:00:00 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:00
priteau#topic Roll call09:00
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priteauHi tetsuro09:02
tetsuroHi09:02
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priteauI think masahito is at Kubecon today09:03
priteauHi bertys_09:03
bertys_hi09:03
bertys_o/09:03
priteauAgenda for today:09:04
priteauJSON validation09:04
priteauLease duration parameter09:04
priteauAOB09:04
priteau#topic JSON validation09:04
*** openstack changes topic to "JSON validation (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:04
priteauAsmita Singh reached out to me asking if we supported adding a JSON schema validation layer, rather than manual validation scattered through the code09:06
priteau#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/blazar/+spec/json-schema-validation09:06
priteauThis seems like a good idea to me. I believe Keystone does it, maybe other services as well.09:06
tetsuro++ good idea09:06
bertys_+109:06
priteauIn particular she wants to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/1803147 using JSON schema validation09:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1803147 in Blazar "Requirements containing non-ascii characters causes internal error" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Asmita Singh (asmita2018)09:07
priteauFor this particular bug, an alternative approach would be to supported non-ascii in requirements (extra capabilities, but also things like hypervisor_hostname gathered from Nova)09:08
priteautetsuro: Do you know if operators in Japan like/want to use non-ascii characters for things like hostnames?09:09
priteauMy feeling about this is that we should first fix the bug by restricting to ascii characters, and later we can relax the rule09:10
tetsuro restricting to ascii characters seems good to me09:10
priteauGreat09:11
priteauAny other comments about this?09:11
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priteauHi asmita_09:12
priteauWe were just discussing JSON schema validation09:12
priteauWe support the plan of using JSON schema validation and restricting requirements to ascii characters09:13
tetsuroWe can follow nova's restriction like https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/fb14f24cc38a546f96adfc0446879716ca4c883e/nova/api/validation/parameter_types.py#L260-L26809:16
priteau+109:17
priteauRelated reading: Karbor API validation spec09:17
priteau#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/523831/4/doc/source/specs/api-json-schema-validation.rst09:17
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priteauasmita_: Do you feel comfortable writing a spec? You could base it on the Karbor spec and adapt it to Blazar09:18
priteauasmita_ may not be reading IRC. Let's continue with the agenda.09:21
priteau#topic Lease duration parameter09:21
*** openstack changes topic to "Lease duration parameter (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:21
priteauSomething else that asmita_ is working on: create leases with lease duration instead of end date09:22
priteauhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/171729009:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1717290 in Blazar "Create leases with lease duration instead of end date" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Pierre Riteau (priteau)09:22
priteauOriginally I thought this would purely be a client-side fix09:22
priteauAdd new parameter --duration <time-period> which could be used instead of --end-date09:23
priteauHave the client calculate the end date internally and use it in the create lease request to the service09:23
priteauasmita_ pointed out an issue if start_date="now": https://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/1717290/comments/209:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1717290 in Blazar "Create leases with lease duration instead of end date" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Pierre Riteau (priteau)09:24
priteauIn a perfect world this would only have a minor impact, making leases just a few seconds shorter than requested09:25
priteauHowever, consider the scenario where a client's clock is not synchronized09:26
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priteauBecause start_date=now would be computed by the server, but end_date would be computed by the client, we could end up with a lease that doesn't match at all the request duration09:27
priteauWhat asmita_ proposes is to add a lease duration parameter directly in the API, leveraging microversion support to add it without breaking compatibility09:27
priteauAny thoughts?09:27
tetsuroAt a first look doing that in server side seems sane09:28
tetsurodoing that in client side is a bit weird assuming that now is calculated in the server side09:28
priteauI agree. I think it's a good change for Blazar.09:29
priteauMore generally micro version would be useful to extend the API without breaking compatibility09:30
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priteauAny other comments about this?09:31
priteauMoving on to AOB09:34
priteau#topic AOB09:34
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priteauI've sent my summary of the discussion during the American IRC meeting09:35
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priteau#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006392.html09:35
priteauI'd like to investigate this topic more during the Train cycle.09:36
priteauAny comment or other AOB items?09:38
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priteauIf not let's end the meeting here for this week.09:41
priteauThanks for joining!09:42
priteau#endmeeting09:42
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/"09:42
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asmita_priteau: Hi09:46
asmita_tetsuro : Hi09:49
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tetsuroHi09:52
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tetsuroasmita_ shall we move to #openstack-blazar?09:53
asmita_sure, thank you so much priteau and tetsuro for the discussion on JSON Validation and Create lease with duration parameter.09:54
tetsuroThank you for bringing that discussion to us, too09:55
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cmurphyo/16:00
cmurphy#startmeeting keystone16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue May 21 16:00:57 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is cmurphy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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cmurphyanyone around for the keystone meeting?16:01
gagehugoo/16:01
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knikollao/16:02
cmurphyyay there are people here16:03
cmurphy#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting agenda16:03
cmurphy#topic action item review16:03
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cmurphywe had some action items from last week16:03
cmurphy#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2019/keystone.2019-05-14-16.00.html last week's meeting minutes16:04
cmurphy1. vishakha to take on fast8 tooling16:04
cmurphyi saw you started this :)16:04
cmurphyyou had a question about it?16:04
vishakhayes I wanted to ask. I should merge this with every module in keystone?16:04
cmurphyi think it only really matters for keystone because the other projects have such a small amount of code that regular pep8 is already fast16:05
cmurphyanyone else have thoughts on that?16:05
bnemeccmurphy: +116:06
gagehugoI don't see why not, but yeah, keystone is currently the slowest one and should be first priority16:06
gagehugothe other projects do run it pretty quickly16:06
knikolla++16:07
cmurphyyeah i wouldn't -1 adding it to other projects but i don't really think it's needed16:07
vishakhaok. So I think other projects dont have need for fast8. Thanks16:08
cmurphythanks vishakha16:08
cmurphy2. lbragstad propose definition of low-hanging-fruit tag in contributor documentation16:08
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cmurphylbragstad did this but he's going to be out for a bit so someone else may have to finish it up16:09
cmurphyi can do that unless someone else wants to volunteer16:09
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/65914116:10
cmurphyit's not urgent so i'll let it sit for a bit16:10
vishakhasure16:10
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cmurphy#topic Admin endpoint in keystonemiddleware16:11
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cmurphyfrickler has been working on this16:11
cmurphy#link https://review.opendev.org/65179016:11
cmurphythe idea is that keystonemiddleware is currently hardcoded to use keystone's admin endpoint16:12
cmurphywhich should be entirely unnecessary now16:12
cmurphyfricker's change makes it configurable but still defaulting to admin16:13
cmurphyideally we should have a deprecation period/upgrade path so that it can default to public16:13
cmurphynot sure if frickler can be here but he wanted us to discuss the path forward16:14
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cmurphyanyone have thoughts on it?16:16
knikollanew option that preserves the current behavior as default seems sensible16:16
knikollaand then deprecation16:17
cmurphyshould the current default of the new option immediately be deprecated? oslo.config doesn't have a mechanism for that so we'd have to add an explicit log warning if the option is unset16:18
bnemecMaybe deprecate the entire option?16:19
bnemecIt won't do anything once the admin endpoint goes away, right?16:19
cmurphypeople could still want to switch it between public or internal16:20
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knikolla++ cmurphy16:20
bnemecOh, but that doesn't help notify people if they're still using the old behavior by default.16:20
cmurphybnemec: also that16:20
bnemecSo yeah, maybe an explicit log message is better.16:21
cmurphyalright i'll try to provide some guidance on that on the patch16:21
cmurphy#topic Milestone 1 check-in and retrospective16:23
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cmurphyat the PTG we talked about doing more regular check-ins to try to keep momentum going16:23
cmurphyM1 is in two weeks so it's already time for one16:23
knikollaoh nice16:24
cmurphyi think there's not enough people at this meeting to really schedule it so i'll send out emails16:24
knikolla++16:24
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cmurphyi'm hoping to do maybe a 1.5-2 hour video meeting16:26
cmurphyanyways, will follow up in email16:27
cmurphy#topic Office hours future16:27
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cmurphylast week was kind of a bust because people scattered, this week i also expect low attendance16:27
cmurphywondering if people still feel like office hours is worth doing? or what should we do to have them be productive?16:28
vishakhaAttending office hours is little difficult for me. But I can give the updates the very next day16:29
cmurphyvishakha: that's fair, we could consider rescheduling it but that's always going to be tricky16:31
vishakhaYes I can understand. I dont recommend scheduling16:32
vishakhaI will try to attend :)16:34
cmurphyi think we should skip today since there's not many people here and we can revisit next week16:35
knikollayeah16:36
cmurphyalright16:36
cmurphylast topic16:36
cmurphy#topic liaison review16:37
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cmurphyi just went and reached out to people privately and filled out https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-liaison-review-201916:37
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cmurphyand will update the wiki accordingly16:37
cmurphyso not much to discuss i think, more of an fyi16:37
cmurphy#topic open discussion16:39
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knikollaawesome, thanks cmurphy16:39
cmurphyanything else to bring up?16:39
cmurphy:)16:39
cmurphyokay thanks for attending everyone16:42
cmurphy#endmeeting16:42
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