Thursday, 2019-05-16

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tbarron#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu May 16 15:00:36 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
bswartz.o/15:00
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gansohello15:00
lsekihi15:01
tbarronmanila meeting courtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso15:01
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* tbarron waits a bit15:01
carlosshey :)15:01
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tbarrongood netapp turnout :)15:02
tbarronbusy day in my workspace and jgrosso is out sick15:02
tbarronok let's start15:04
tbarronAgenda:15:04
tbarron#Link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:04
tbarronThanks to gouthamr for running last week's meeting.15:05
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tbarronI'm at kubecon next week and on PTO the week after that so he has agreed to chair those meetings as well.15:06
bswartzBarcelona again?15:06
tbarronbswartz: yup, cephalocon too15:06
xyanghi15:06
tbarronwhere ill talk a bit about manila15:06
tbarron#topicannouncements15:07
tbarron#topic announcements15:07
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tbarronmy right hand is in a cast so typing is poor-er than usual15:07
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tbarronwe have photos from PTG!15:08
bswartzoh no!15:08
bswartzI thought your spacebar was on the fritz15:08
tbarron#Link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fydqjehy9h5y728/AACql7AzbeYByedYevFvFUoia/Manila?dl=0&subfolder_nav_tracking=115:08
tbarronbswartz is missing from the photos but otherwise they are fine15:09
bswartz;-(15:09
tbarronthe second one shows what a great judicious deliberative body was at work15:10
tbarronThe other announcement is just a reminder15:10
tbarronthat you can edit the courtesy ping list here:15:10
tbarronat the top of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:11
tbarronif you don't want or do want to be pinged15:11
tbarronthere has been some discussion of these on the ML and projects that use them have been15:12
tbarronencouraged to refresh the lists for accuracy15:12
tbarronAnyone else have announcements?15:12
tbarron#topic PTG summary15:13
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tbarroni think vkmc is out of office today but I want to thank her for sending out a great summary here15:13
tbarron#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-May/006246.html15:14
bswartz+1 ty vkmc15:14
tbarronplease check for accuracy, omissions, etc. but it seems very good to me15:14
tbarron#topic planning our work15:14
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tbarronwe agreed to make a work plan for Train on the wiki like we did for stein15:15
tbarronpeople are responsible for keeping their own tasks up to date15:15
tbarronthanks go to gouthamr for starting it up!15:16
tbarron#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/TrainCycle15:16
tbarronAgain, please reviw and update as appropriate.15:16
tbarronAt least look for mentions of your name/nick to see what we think you have signed up for :)15:17
tbarron#topic specs15:17
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tbarronWork for Train begins with spec reviews.15:18
tbarronLet's get some of these cleared now :)15:18
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657894/15:18
tbarronThis one just moves unimplemented specsto a tracking folder.15:20
tbarronanyone object?15:20
* bswartz done15:20
tbarronbswartz: ty!15:20
tbarronhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/659161/15:20
bswartzWhen did we change from openstack.org to opendev.org?15:21
dviroelMoving this one to Train also. lseki is the new assignee15:21
tbarronneeds another +2 +w15:21
* bswartz done15:22
tbarronbswartz: around cycle switch time15:22
tbarronbswartz: you can read all about it in #openstack-discuss archives15:22
bswartzI first notived it a week or 2 ago15:22
bswartznoticed even15:22
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657900/15:23
bswartzWhat is "release independent"?15:23
tbarronthis is bswartz's nice handle race conditions spec15:23
tbarronwe plan to do work on this stuff in this cycle15:24
tbarronbut we'll likely want tolook at it for design principles and guidance in other cycles too15:24
tbarronso we agreed at PTO to make a release independent folder for such specs15:25
bswartzSo no specific work in any release, just there for reference?15:26
tbarronthere may always be some additional work to do ..., but hopefully decreasing asymtopically :)15:26
tbarronbswartz: yeah15:26
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tbarronbswartz: and the tracking wiki will have some specific tasks and refer backto this as15:27
tbarronmore or less an "epic"15:27
tbarronso this one needs another approval besides me15:27
tbarronxyang: will you do the courtesy?15:28
xyangsure15:28
tbarronxyang: ty!15:28
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/657893/15:29
tbarronok, this one is substantive15:29
tbarronI like it and it has my +2 but it needs more critical eyes15:30
tbarronplease review it, whether you have +2 powers or not15:30
tbarron(we look at +/-1 reviews to see who should become core revieweres)15:31
* bswartz done15:31
tbarronoh this one is actually a move forwards15:32
tbarronbut if you haven't read it, so so please :)15:32
bswartzYeah zero lines change15:32
bswartzI recall this one15:32
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/644218/15:32
tbarronthis isthe openstack client spec and it is WIP15:33
tbarronwe're suggesting that it be split into two specs15:33
tbarronone that providesminimum viable product for our intern and that will clearly be achievable in train15:34
bswartzThis change doesn't do that though15:34
tbarronand one that covers the remainder, and can be train stretch goasls15:34
bswartzOkay so just read it and wait for a the split?15:34
tbarronbswartz: yes and if there's something that seems off go on and indicate that15:35
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bswartzOh this one is like designing a bikeshed15:35
tbarronfinal spec for now15:35
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/609537/15:36
dviroeltbarron: I'm working on this one. Should updated it soon15:36
tbarronThis one is going to be re-worked15:36
tbarrondviroel: jinx15:36
tbarrondviroel: cool, I knew you were on it, just wanted to15:37
dviroel=)15:37
tbarronkeep it in people's minds so we have an idea of the scopeof our spec reviews15:37
tbarronAny other specs planned that I'm missing?15:37
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tbarron#topic bugs15:38
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tbarronjgrosso is out sick today but as usual did a bunch of stale bug cleanup this week15:39
tbarronwe're getting so we can actually see and act on our bug backlog15:39
tbarronAnyone have a favorite bug that we should lookj at today?15:39
tbarroncrickets ...15:40
tbarron#topic open discussion15:40
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tbarronHearing nothing, some of us will go to an early lunch :)15:41
bswartzOkay15:41
tbarronThanks everyone, see you in #openstack-manila!15:42
bswartzThanks15:42
dviroelthks15:42
tbarron#endmeeting15:42
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openstackMeeting ended Thu May 16 15:42:21 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:42
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