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| tbarron | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 7 15:01:51 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 15:01 |
| carlos_silva | hi :) | 15:02 |
| tbarron | chair bswartz | 15:02 |
| tbarron | in case | 15:02 |
| vkmc | o/ | 15:02 |
| tbarron | i'm going to try the courtesy ping the old way | 15:02 |
| amito | o/ | 15:02 |
| tbarron | courtesy ping: gouthamr zhongjun xyang toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso | 15:02 |
| bswartz | I have a conflict at 10:30 unfotunately, so I can only stat half the meeting | 15:02 |
| tbarron | bot didn't kill me | 15:02 |
| bswartz | You need the hashtag to make the chair command work | 15:03 |
| toabctl | hey | 15:03 |
| lseki | hi | 15:03 |
| jgrosso | hey all | 15:03 |
| tbarron | bswartz: oh yeah | 15:03 |
| bswartz | s/stat/stay/ | 15:03 |
| tbarron | ganso has a conflict | 15:03 |
| tbarron | gouthamr is taking PTO | 15:03 |
| tbarron | slacker | 15:03 |
| jgrosso | :) | 15:03 |
| bswartz | PTO? what's that? | 15:03 |
| bswartz | >_< | 15:03 |
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| tbarron | ok let's get started | 15:04 |
| tbarron | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Weekly_Manila_team_meeting | 15:04 |
| tbarron | #topic Announcements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
| tbarron | It is Feature Freeze | 15:04 |
| tbarron | if you have any other non-bug fix, non-test-only, non-doc fixes for Stein | 15:05 |
| tbarron | you need to request a Feature Freeze Exception | 15:05 |
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| bswartz | Today is feature freeze in Kubernetes too | 15:05 |
| tbarron | Fortunately the big manage share servers stuff merged | 15:05 |
| bswartz | I wonder if that's a coincidence or good planning? | 15:06 |
| tbarron | bswartz: got your raw block discovery working? | 15:06 |
| * tbarron digresses | 15:06 | |
| bswartz | It merged in the dark of night | 15:06 |
| tbarron | cool | 15:06 |
| tbarron | Thanks to ganso, his team, and reviewers, especially gouthamr for their work on the manage share servers feature | 15:07 |
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| tbarron | It's also time to release the version of python-manilaclient that we're shipping for Stein. | 15:07 |
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| tbarron | So I've submitted a review for that and it will presumably merge today or tomorrow | 15:08 |
| tbarron | It's also the deadline to submit topics for the Summit Forum. | 15:08 |
| tbarron | I plan to do these later today, | 15:08 |
| tbarron | You still have a little bit of time to add your ideas to | 15:08 |
| tbarron | our brainstorm etherpad | 15:09 |
| tbarron | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DEN-train-forum-manila-brainstorming | 15:09 |
| * tbarron pauses to fix the agenda there | 15:10 | |
| tbarron | That's all I have for announcements, | 15:11 |
| tbarron | anyone else? | 15:11 |
| tbarron | #topic Bugs | 15:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:11 | |
| tbarron | OK it's time in the release schedule to pivot | 15:12 |
| tbarron | from development to | 15:12 |
| tbarron | bug detection and fixes | 15:12 |
| tbarron | of course that should be ongoing but now it should | 15:12 |
| tbarron | be exclusive focus for stein work | 15:12 |
| tbarron | (doesn't mean you can't work on stuff for train but we won't merge it till then) | 15:13 |
| tbarron | jgrosso: you are up | 15:13 |
| jgrosso | ok | 15:13 |
| jgrosso | well question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1817316 | 15:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1817316 in Manila "security service password is stored in plaintext" [Undecided,New] | 15:13 |
| jgrosso | have we found out the best practice as a baseline and go from there, we were thinking this was not a "manila" issue but across the board?? | 15:14 |
| jgrosso | I know we talked about this last meeting | 15:14 |
| tbarron | well I asked on the discuss list and bnemec from oslo and joasorio from security replied | 15:14 |
| tbarron | There is a new oslo capability to leverage castellan to | 15:15 |
| tbarron | keep service passwords and the like in a vault rather than | 15:15 |
| tbarron | plaintext | 15:15 |
| tbarron | That doesn't address the security-service password directly b/c | 15:15 |
| tbarron | it is entered by a cloud-operator via the api | 15:16 |
| tbarron | and stored in the database | 15:16 |
| tbarron | So I've added this as a PTG topic | 15:16 |
| jgrosso | ok great | 15:16 |
| tbarron | one possibility is that we can use standard (i think ??) DB | 15:16 |
| jgrosso | is this a medium? | 15:16 |
| tbarron | AES encryption or some such to store the password in the DB | 15:17 |
| tbarron | and add configuration for the encryption key | 15:17 |
| tbarron | and then use castellan for the encryption key and | 15:17 |
| tbarron | for service passwords | 15:17 |
| tbarron | so I'll float that idea now and we can talk about it at PTG | 15:17 |
| bswartz | When was the last time we added a dependency on an outside service? | 15:17 |
| bswartz | We need a checklist of things that need updating when we do that | 15:18 |
| tbarron | yeah | 15:18 |
| bswartz | For example all the test jobs need to install that service | 15:18 |
| bswartz | The developer docs need to tell developers to install it | 15:18 |
| tbarron | bswartz: we could make it a soft dependency of course | 15:18 |
| tbarron | still need the checklist | 15:18 |
| bswartz | Deployers will have to do whatever they do | 15:18 |
| tbarron | but operator would set an option to encrypt service passwords and sec service p/w | 15:19 |
| bswartz | It's a nontrivial change to make | 15:19 |
| tbarron | or not | 15:19 |
| bswartz | But I agree it does make sense in this context | 15:19 |
| tbarron | bswartz: right, it's non-trivial and that's why I think it's a PTG topic | 15:19 |
| tbarron | would need a spec and work plan | 15:19 |
| tbarron | jgrosso: so medium is fine but add wish-list and note that we'll discuss it at PTG | 15:20 |
| jgrosso | got it | 15:20 |
| jgrosso | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1818569 | 15:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1818569 in Manila "access rule apply races allow duplicates" [Undecided,New] | 15:20 |
| tbarron | we have api races when applying access rules | 15:21 |
| tbarron | I think this one is also a PTG topic | 15:21 |
| tbarron | b/c the best way to fix it | 15:21 |
| * tbarron brainstorms | 15:21 | |
| tbarron | involves some ING DB states and locking around the transition to them | 15:22 |
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| tbarron | I think I made this point back when gouthamr was doing the last access rule changes | 15:22 |
| tbarron | and people said that it might be true but didn't want to hold up all the other improvements he was making | 15:22 |
| tbarron | so jgrosso i think this is MEDIUM at least and it's not goign to be a quick fix | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Is the problem that the user asks for duplicate rules and we don't prevent it? | 15:23 |
| tbarron | hope I'm wrong | 15:23 |
| jgrosso | ok wil make a note this is PTG topic as well | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Or that the user doesn't ask for it and we do it anyways? | 15:23 |
| tbarron | bswartz: we try to prevent it but the prevenetion is subject to race problems | 15:23 |
| tbarron | and doesn't always work | 15:23 |
| tbarron | so the real issue is the races | 15:23 |
| tbarron | this is just one manifestation | 15:24 |
| bswartz | I see | 15:24 |
| tbarron | that's my *opinion* -- others should investigate and form their own | 15:24 |
| tbarron | but I'm putting it as a PTG topic | 15:24 |
| jgrosso | ok | 15:25 |
| tbarron | if someone comes up with a clean fix that's simpler than what I'm thinking in the mean time then | 15:25 |
| tbarron | I'd *love* to be wrong | 15:25 |
| jgrosso | :) | 15:25 |
| jgrosso | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila-ui/+bug/1584145 | 15:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1584145 in manila-ui "Wrong handling of errors updating share type extra specs" [Medium,In progress] | 15:25 |
| jgrosso | can some explain to me what we do with abandoned stuff :) | 15:26 |
| jgrosso | I am on a mission to clean everything up | 15:26 |
| jgrosso | :) | 15:26 |
| vkmc | it gets back to the queue so other contributor can work on it? | 15:27 |
| tbarron | yeah | 15:27 |
| tbarron | this is an old bug report though and a lot has changed in horizon and manila-ui | 15:27 |
| jgrosso | ok so we just leave it there? | 15:27 |
| vkmc | yeah, somebody needs to verify what is the status for it | 15:28 |
| tbarron | do we understand how to reproduce this? | 15:28 |
| jgrosso | ok https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-manilaclient/+bug/1712835 | 15:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1712835 in python-manilaclient "shell client completion cache not working" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Eric Harney (eharney) | 15:28 |
| tbarron | jgrosso: so back to the other one | 15:28 |
| jgrosso | oh ok | 15:28 |
| tbarron | we need to get an owner to try and see if it's still valid | 15:28 |
| * tbarron thinks he sees vkmc waving her hand | 15:29 | |
| vkmc | \o) | 15:29 |
| vkmc | (o/ | 15:29 |
| jgrosso | I will add a comment | 15:29 |
| tbarron | awesome | 15:29 |
| tbarron | jgrosso: assign to vkmc | 15:29 |
| jgrosso | ok | 15:29 |
| vkmc | just grabbed it | 15:30 |
| tbarron | vkmc: it's perfectly fine if you can't reproduce to say that and close it | 15:30 |
| vkmc | thanks jgrosso | 15:30 |
| tbarron | vkmc thank you! | 15:30 |
| vkmc | thanks tbarron! | 15:30 |
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| * bswartz sneaks out of the room to his 10:30 meeting | 15:31 | |
| jgrosso | the next bug it looks fixed in Cinderclient | 15:31 |
| tbarron | bswartz: see you later, thanks! | 15:31 |
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| tbarron | jgrosso: and it's in review in manila, right? | 15:31 |
| jgrosso | yes | 15:32 |
| jgrosso | ok sorry did not see that | 15:32 |
| jgrosso | :) | 15:32 |
| tbarron | jgrosso: i'd say the importance is LOW if you want to set that | 15:32 |
| jgrosso | ok | 15:32 |
| tbarron | it's a convenience | 15:33 |
| jgrosso | got it | 15:33 |
| jgrosso | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1816939 | 15:34 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1816939 in Manila "Tempest test test_create_sg_and_share_specifying_az fails sporadically" [Undecided,New] | 15:34 |
| jgrosso | reported by Goutham | 15:35 |
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| tbarron | looks like someone needs to investigate where the races are | 15:35 |
| tbarron | in which service | 15:35 |
| jgrosso | is this a dev or could QE help out ? | 15:36 |
| tbarron | of course QE can help out | 15:36 |
| jgrosso | ok I will assign it to me | 15:37 |
| tbarron | there are no you're a DEV or you're a QE rules upstream | 15:37 |
| tbarron | jgrosso: terrific | 15:37 |
| jgrosso | great! | 15:37 |
| jgrosso | sorry for the delay system is slow at home | 15:38 |
| tbarron | no prob | 15:39 |
| jgrosso | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1811943 | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1811943 in Manila "limit max share size" [Undecided,New] | 15:40 |
| tbarron | this is a wishlist item | 15:41 |
| tbarron | we can have it as a PTG topic | 15:41 |
| jgrosso | ok | 15:41 |
| jgrosso | how bout this https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1811336 | 15:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1811336 in Manila "Manila snapshot create method doesn't support "force" attribute" [Undecided,New] | 15:41 |
| tbarron | we need someone to investigate it | 15:42 |
| tbarron | does anyone kknow right off what 'force' is supposed to do when creating a snapshot? | 15:43 |
| tbarron | jgrosso: maybe bring this one up again next week when we have more people here with | 15:43 |
| tbarron | history in manila | 15:43 |
| jgrosso | got it | 15:43 |
| tbarron | bswart or ganso or gouthamr may know | 15:44 |
| jgrosso | got it | 15:44 |
| jgrosso | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1804239 | 15:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1804239 in Manila "NetApp utilization metrics slow" [Undecided,New] | 15:45 |
| tbarron | any netappers want to take this? | 15:45 |
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| tbarron | jgrosso: see if you can get ganso to take this one and | 15:46 |
| tbarron | have his team work it | 15:46 |
| tbarron | now that | 15:46 |
| jgrosso | sounds good | 15:46 |
| tbarron | the manage share servers stuff is merged | 15:46 |
| jgrosso | ok I have one more | 15:46 |
| jgrosso | https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1804208 | 15:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1804208 in Manila "scheduler falsely reports share service down" [High,New] | 15:47 |
| jgrosso | its marked as High | 15:47 |
| tbarron | well that's probably defensible | 15:48 |
| tbarron | for big deployments like the reporter's | 15:48 |
| tbarron | he's at SAP | 15:48 |
| jgrosso | ahh | 15:48 |
| lseki | netapper here o/, we'll decide between us regarding 1804239 who will work on it | 15:49 |
| jgrosso | so your saying this can be expected in large deployments? | 15:49 |
| tbarron | I don't see anyone raising their hands to say they'll work on it immediately so it will just be in our high prio baclog for now | 15:49 |
| jgrosso | ok | 15:49 |
| tbarron | lseki: awesome, would you assign it to yourself and then | 15:49 |
| tbarron | re-assign as appropriate? | 15:50 |
| jgrosso | lseki: thanks | 15:50 |
| lseki | tbarron: sure, I will | 15:50 |
| tbarron | lseki: thanks | 15:50 |
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| jgrosso | tbarron: that is all I have for now | 15:51 |
| tbarron | jgrosso: cool, and thanks | 15:51 |
| tbarron | #topic Open Discussion | 15:51 |
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| jgrosso | your welcome | 15:51 |
| * tbarron waits a couple minutes | 15:52 | |
| tbarron | OK, thanks everyone, let's go fix bugs! See you on #oopenstack-manila! | 15:53 |
| tbarron | #endmeeting | 15:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 7 15:53:54 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-03-07-15.01.html | 15:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-03-07-15.01.txt | 15:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-03-07-15.01.log.html | 15:54 |
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