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| tbarron | #startmeeting manila | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 3 15:01:15 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tbarron. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'manila' | 15:01 |
| tbarron | ping bswartz | 15:02 |
| ganso | hello | 15:02 |
| gouthamr | o/ | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ping ganso | 15:02 |
| tbarron | oh hi | 15:02 |
| bswartz | .o/ | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ping zhongjun | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ping zyang | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ping toabctl | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ping erlon | 15:02 |
| toabctl | hey | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ping tpsiva | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ping amito | 15:02 |
| tbarron | ping vkmc | 15:02 |
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| tbarron | that's the ping list, add yourself at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings if you want | 15:03 |
| * tbarron waits a couple minutes | 15:03 | |
| bswartz | Happy New Year! | 15:03 |
| tbarron | ok, Hi all, and happy new year! | 15:04 |
| gouthamr | Happy New Year, everyone! :) | 15:04 |
| tbarron | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:04 | |
| tbarron | oh, our agenda is here | 15:04 |
| ganso | happy new year! | 15:05 |
| tbarron | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings | 15:05 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: do you have any important football announcments? | 15:05 |
| erlon | hey | 15:05 |
| tbarron | hi erlon | 15:05 |
| gouthamr | :D hehe, my new year started on a good note this year tbarron | 15:06 |
| bswartz | I'm not thrilled with the football situation | 15:06 |
| * tbarron tries to start a fight when he can | 15:06 | |
| gouthamr | bswartz: wut, thought you guys won rose bowl | 15:06 |
| bswartz | We did but that's not good enough for me | 15:07 |
| gouthamr | :D then beat Purdue next time | 15:07 |
| tbarron | but on a different note, milestone 2 is next week | 15:07 |
| * gouthamr ducks | 15:07 | |
| bswartz | >_< | 15:07 |
| tbarron | That's new driver submission deadline but I don't think we have any. | 15:07 |
| tbarron | Otherwise, I plan to cut some intermediary releases so if there's anything important you want included let me know. | 15:08 |
| xyang | hi | 15:08 |
| tbarron | It would be nice to be python3 ready by then but we'll see ... | 15:09 |
| tbarron | hi xyang | 15:09 |
| bswartz | Why releases plural? | 15:09 |
| tbarron | Any other announcements? | 15:09 |
| bswartz | Isn't it just 1 release for the milestone? | 15:09 |
| tbarron | bswartz: manila-ui, client, etc. | 15:09 |
| bswartz | Okay library releases | 15:09 |
| tbarron | they're not required at milestone | 15:09 |
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| tbarron | but it's a convenient time and we're being encouraged not to just wait till the end of the cycle. | 15:10 |
| tbarron | Any other announcements? | 15:11 |
| tbarron | I guess we can welcome toabctl back :) | 15:11 |
| toabctl | thx :) but still part-time :) | 15:11 |
| amito | (sorry, was in another meeting that ran too long) | 15:11 |
| tbarron | Happy new year, and thanks for your cleanup patches and reviews again. | 15:11 |
| tbarron | amito: hey, happy new year. | 15:11 |
| amito | tbarron: thanks, happy new year! | 15:12 |
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| tbarron | #topic new user-developer experience | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new user-developer experience (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:12 | |
| tbarron | special thanks to gouthamr for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/627020/ | 15:12 |
| tbarron | We've had a fair number of folks trying to set up devstack and not getting anywhere good | 15:13 |
| tbarron | But gouthamr has written up new instructions, including gentler intro than just dropping them into full DHSS=True complexity at the start. | 15:14 |
| tbarron | I think it will be a great help. | 15:14 |
| tbarron | We still don't have great, easy to follow instructions for running tempest locally, so if anyone wants to | 15:15 |
| tbarron | contribute on that front it would be great. | 15:15 |
| tbarron | #topic gate issues | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "gate issues (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:15 | |
| tbarron | Somewhat related | 15:16 |
| tbarron | we've made some progress cleaning up all the red non-voting first-party jobs. | 15:16 |
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| tbarron | but not enough. | 15:16 |
| tbarron | The generic driver jobs were failing with SSH header protocol exceptions | 15:16 |
| gouthamr | ++, a relief to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/627854/ passing | 15:17 |
| tbarron | And we had new users trying to use the generic driver locally and they were failing | 15:17 |
| tbarron | at the same point. | 15:17 |
| bswartz | gouthamr: what was the trick here? | 15:17 |
| tbarron | I've submitted a series of patches that *mitigate* the issue and that will help us debug further I hope. | 15:17 |
| bswartz | Or do I need to go read all 5 of those patches? | 15:17 |
| tbarron | bswartz: crude, up the timeout. | 15:18 |
| bswartz | which timeout | 15:18 |
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| gouthamr | was going to ask tbarron: a combination of adjusting the SSH banner timeout, setting the group? | 15:18 |
| tbarron | and remove an old keepalive hack we had in the paramiko code that no one else has anymore. | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | or this aswell? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/627797 | 15:18 |
| tbarron | there's a specific banner timerout that we need to bump | 15:18 |
| gouthamr | ah | 15:18 |
| tbarron | as a workaround | 15:18 |
| * gouthamr notes this must have taken much of tbarron's holiday | 15:19 | |
| tbarron | that enables it to work most of the time just the way we see openssh client work if you wait long enough | 15:19 |
| bswartz | So we suspect something in slow (nova or neutron) and just waiting a little longer works around the slowness? | 15:19 |
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| tbarron | then https://review.openstack.org/#/c/627020/ seems to fix an intermittent issue even with the long timeouts | 15:19 |
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| bswartz | tbarron: wrong link? | 15:20 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: not really (holiday) - mostly I was away from other work concerns so could think a litle bit | 15:20 |
| ganso | tbarron: ^wrong patch? | 15:20 |
| tbarron | *link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/627797 | 15:20 |
| tbarron | sorry bout that | 15:21 |
| bswartz | Oh that one | 15:21 |
| bswartz | I never investigated this keepalive stuff so I'll look more closely | 15:21 |
| tbarron | Now there's still an issue that will probably turn into a bug for neutron/ovs | 15:21 |
| tbarron | If you install tcpdump on the SVM and run it when connecting to it from the openssh client | 15:22 |
| tbarron | you see "spurious retransmissions" of the SSH version header from the client. | 15:22 |
| tbarron | the client keeps sending it over and over, with exponential backoff | 15:22 |
| tbarron | And you see the server responding with acks (you see that on the server) | 15:23 |
| bswartz | To the correct IP? | 15:23 |
| tbarron | bswartz: yes | 15:23 |
| bswartz | So it's not a DHCP issue | 15:23 |
| tbarron | if you run tcpdump on the client you don't see the ACKs from the server | 15:23 |
| bswartz | Probably the service VM is stuck halfway booted | 15:23 |
| tbarron | which explains the retransmissions | 15:23 |
| tbarron | no, I'm on the svm running tcpdump | 15:24 |
| bswartz | Have you ever collected the kernel logs from a service VM where this issue occured? | 15:24 |
| tbarron | bswartz: nova console log shows it booted and I'm sshed into it, | 15:24 |
| bswartz | There's a recurring (and extremely annoying) problem in the linux kernel where bootstrapping the random number generator can take 90+ seconds in virtual environments | 15:24 |
| tbarron | running a second ssh login issue | 15:24 |
| tbarron | running a second ssh login | 15:25 |
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| bswartz | So you're able to SSH in shortly after boot? And it's just manila that can't connect? | 15:25 |
| tbarron | bswartz: manila can connect too if you give it long timeouts | 15:25 |
| toabctl | bswartz, you might need haveged installed to have entropy | 15:25 |
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| tbarron | I'm debugging the slow connection, not complete failure | 15:26 |
| bswartz | toabctl: yeah there are several workarounds to the issue, install userspace tools is one of them | 15:26 |
| tbarron | You can connect after about 110s. | 15:26 |
| tbarron | So connect, fix dns, install tcpdump. Run tcpdump. | 15:27 |
| bswartz | Well what I've seen in the past is that sshd gets stuck while starting up because it's waiting for the kernel to be able to supply random numbers | 15:27 |
| tbarron | in another window connect again. | 15:27 |
| bswartz | After the kernel finishes RNG initialization, sshd is able to fully start | 15:27 |
| tbarron | bswartz: what i'm seeing is no lack of response on the server, but | 15:27 |
| ganso | bswartz: after it connects, if you disconnect and try again, it still takes 110 seconds | 15:27 |
| bswartz | In unfortunate situations that can take ~90 seconds | 15:27 |
| tbarron | packets from server not getting back to the client | 15:27 |
| bswartz | Hmm okay | 15:27 |
| bswartz | Perhaps a red herring | 15:28 |
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| gouthamr | tbarron: is this limited to the initial connection? | 15:28 |
| tbarron | i've been playing with mtu reduction, etc. | 15:28 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: seems to be limited to the ssh header transmission | 15:28 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: i mean, would this happen after share creation as well, i.e, when updating exports | 15:28 |
| tbarron | the server is piggybacking its ssh header with an ack for the tcp segment from the client that | 15:29 |
| tbarron | contains the client's ssh header | 15:29 |
| tbarron | these are not extrememly long though and later | 15:29 |
| tbarron | after it unstalls | 15:29 |
| tbarron | there's a key exchange with much bigger payload | 15:29 |
| tbarron | anyways I'd like to get this issue resolved as well, not just longer timeouts, etc. as a workaround. | 15:31 |
| tbarron | But with the workaround, we see that the main issues remaining with the | 15:31 |
| tbarron | generic jobs are: | 15:31 |
| tbarron | 1) migration failures | 15:31 |
| tbarron | 2) timeouts on the scenario job | 15:32 |
| tbarron | inspecting the scenario job, the test cases that run for tens of minutes are migration cases | 15:32 |
| tbarron | so I'm wondering what people would think of splitting the host-assisted migration tests into their own job | 15:33 |
| ganso | I've seen a lot of lvm failures lately. Since it is voting, it is requiring a lot of rechecks | 15:33 |
| bswartz | I'm confused about the 2 issues | 15:33 |
| tbarron | That way maybe the other jobs will be green most of the time and we can focus on the red stuff separately. | 15:33 |
| bswartz | Are the migrations causing the timeouts, or are the migrations failing outright? | 15:33 |
| ganso | tbarron: would we be splitting the host-assisted migration tests for all drivers or just generic in DHSS=True? | 15:33 |
| tbarron | bswartz: both | 15:34 |
| bswartz | Gah | 15:34 |
| tbarron | ganso: not sure, what do you think? | 15:34 |
| bswartz | Splitting would help with timeouts but not the outright failures | 15:34 |
| tbarron | bswartz: it won't make those tests pass but it will allow us to see when non-migration stuff fails in the generic job | 15:35 |
| ganso | tbarron, bswartz: yep | 15:35 |
| tbarron | by looking at the normally-green job | 15:35 |
| tbarron | wihtout having to dive into the logs | 15:35 |
| tbarron | and the actual failures are intermittent | 15:35 |
| tbarron | and probably cascade | 15:35 |
| bswartz | I see | 15:35 |
| tbarron | so my idea is that we limit the scope of the actual problem cases to speed thing up, on the one hand, and | 15:36 |
| tbarron | limit collateral damage on the other | 15:36 |
| bswartz | Would the split be permanent though? | 15:36 |
| bswartz | Or just until we sort out the problem? | 15:36 |
| tbarron | ganso: you are right that there are other non-migratioon intermittent issues | 15:36 |
| tbarron | live lvm job snapshot races | 15:37 |
| tbarron | bswartz: I haven't really thought it through that far | 15:37 |
| bswartz | Do we need locks in the LVM driver? | 15:37 |
| tbarron | but if we can stabilize everything and get it to run fast enough then maybe we should consolidate again | 15:38 |
| tbarron | or have that as a goal | 15:38 |
| tbarron | bswartz: maybe. I don't understand the issue well enough to say. | 15:38 |
| tbarron | we also have some intermittent failures in access-rule tests. | 15:39 |
| tbarron | Anyways, I'm trying to sort these out a bit, make sure we have bugs, and try to get out of the mode where we just ignore failures. | 15:39 |
| bswartz | +1 | 15:40 |
| tbarron | #topic our work for stein | 15:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "our work for stein (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:40 | |
| tbarron | priority for access rules https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572283/ | 15:40 |
| ganso | the revert to snapshot feature also has races, the dummy driver fails from time to time on that test | 15:41 |
| tbarron | ganso: agree, do you know if we have a bug for that? | 15:41 |
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| ganso | tbarron: I am not sure, would need to look it up. Since it is failing for a long time someone might have already opened one | 15:41 |
| tbarron | I don't see an active champion/driver for the priority for access rules work and fear that it won't get done this cycle either. | 15:42 |
| tbarron | That review has had a -1 on it since Dec. 13 with no update. | 15:42 |
| tbarron | The client side review in the same situation, only longer. | 15:43 |
| tbarron | At this point I'm inclined to just indicate that it's at risk for not getting done two cycles in a row and | 15:43 |
| toabctl | tbarron, I can remove my -1 if others think that splitting commits is useless | 15:44 |
| bswartz | is zhongjun here? | 15:44 |
| tbarron | try to figure out the gate failures we have currently with access rules. | 15:44 |
| bswartz | No updates suggests that she's not working on it | 15:44 |
| ganso | tbarron: I don't think splitting commits is that helpful | 15:44 |
| ganso | tbarron, toabctl: oops, wrong Thomas | 15:45 |
| ganso | lol | 15:45 |
| tbarron | toabctl: well your -1 shouln't be a blocker, if the champion for the feature disagrees then they should say so and keep pushing | 15:45 |
| ganso | toabctl: ^ | 15:45 |
| toabctl | ok | 15:45 |
| tbarron | toabctl: theoretically I agree with you but practically I would be willing to just push ahead if we can be confident that this one is safe and that the rest of the work has momentum | 15:46 |
| tbarron | My issue is that there is no champion for the feature, there's a lot of work to do besides just this patch, including regression testing and | 15:47 |
| toabctl | tbarron, sure. I just think that it takes *more* time if you have a huge commit. but fine for me to leave it as it is | 15:47 |
| tbarron | we already have some intermittent access rule test issues. | 15:47 |
| tbarron | Anyways, I'm going to work on getting gate more stable -- including access rule tests -- and ignore this feature unless someone else drives it. | 15:48 |
| tbarron | Moving along. | 15:48 |
| tbarron | Python3. | 15:49 |
| tbarron | I want to get this done more or less around milestone 2. | 15:49 |
| tbarron | It looks like we don't set the actual python3 version variable (python3.6) so the lvm job | 15:50 |
| tbarron | currently fails to start up the api service when running under py3. | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | > | 15:50 |
| tbarron | Not sure why at the moment, it's set for cinder jobs. | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | we do set it | 15:50 |
| tbarron | But we'll sort that out. | 15:50 |
| * gouthamr checks | 15:50 | |
| tbarron | gouthamr: I think cinder jobs learn it. | 15:50 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623061/3/playbooks/legacy/manila-tempest-minimal-dsvm-lvm/run.yaml | 15:51 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: not the boolean, the actual version | 15:51 |
| gouthamr | oh, wait, you mean python"3.6" | 15:51 |
| tbarron | it's a different variable, cinder jobs learn it, and hellman's patch usess it | 15:51 |
| tbarron | so we'll sort that out | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | ah, i see | 15:52 |
| gouthamr | like this one here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/607379/2/devstack-vm-gate-wrap.sh | 15:52 |
| tbarron | And we need to get the current centos jobs running under bionic so they can be py3 too | 15:52 |
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| tbarron | Hopefully we can get these out of the way in the coming week. | 15:52 |
| tbarron | And declare the job done except potentially for moving from native eventlet wsgi to uswgi. | 15:53 |
| tbarron | The last may or may not be needed since in production everyone uses | 15:53 |
| tbarron | httpd or something in front of the api | 15:54 |
| tbarron | and since eventlet/py3 issues may be getting sorted anyways. | 15:54 |
| tbarron | #topic bugs | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:55 | |
| tbarron | I don't have any hot ones other than the gate issues we discussed. | 15:55 |
| tbarron | Some of which are also hitting users. | 15:55 |
| tbarron | And some which need new bugs or old bugs discovered and prioritized. | 15:56 |
| tbarron | Anyone else have particular bugs to talk about today? | 15:56 |
| tbarron | #topic open discussion | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: manila)" | 15:56 | |
| tbarron | ganso? | 15:56 |
| gouthamr | i'd like to discuss "public" shares, but that might be a longer topic | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | case in point: https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/1801763 | 15:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1801763 in Manila "public flag should be controllable via policy" [Medium,Confirmed] | 15:57 |
| gouthamr | i can add it to teh agenda for next week | 15:57 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: that's a good one :) | 15:57 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: ok | 15:58 |
| tbarron | you might get people to talk about it in #openstack-manila in the mean time as well | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | sure | 15:58 |
| gouthamr | also we have someone in #openstack-horizon asking about manila-ui | 15:59 |
| gouthamr | i tried helping, but i am out of ideas on why it isn't working for the guy | 16:00 |
| tbarron | gouthamr: does he have vkmc's latest rdo fix? | 16:00 |
| gouthamr | tbarron: he does | 16:00 |
| tbarron | k, we're out of time | 16:00 |
| tbarron | Thanks everyone! | 16:00 |
| tbarron | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 3 16:00:35 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-01-03-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-01-03-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-01-03-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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