Wednesday, 2018-12-19

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dkrolHello14:02
dkrol#startmeeting trove14:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 19 14:02:49 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dkrol. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'trove'14:02
dkrolAnyone? :)14:07
dkrolIt seems we will not have weekly today14:14
dkrol#endmeeting14:14
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e0ne#startmeeting horizon15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 19 15:00:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is e0ne. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'horizon'15:00
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e0neis anybody around here for horizon meeting?15:02
e0neamotoki, rdopiera: are you around?15:04
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e0neI have no notices this week, so I'll end the meeting in 5 minutes if nobody joins me15:09
e0neI'll probably skip the next meeting, I'll send a notification to the mailing list15:10
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amotokihi15:12
amotokiI'm on a train back to home from a party around the end of year which is so-called "bonenkai" in Japan15:13
amotokiit seems I should be here 5 mins later :)15:14
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e0neamotoki: no worries, I can wait:)15:16
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amotoki:)15:16
amotokiI found a good explanation on bonenkai in Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%8Dnenkai15:17
e0nehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%8Dnenkai15:17
e0neI like it :)15:17
amotokiwikipedia gives us answers on most things :)15:17
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amotokiI noticed the meeting agenda is now relatively simple15:23
amotokie0ne: do we discuss some today?15:24
e0neamotoki: I moved old agenda to the etharad, so we can discuss it on demand15:25
amotokiall may be moved to etherpad :)15:25
e0neamotoki: :)15:26
e0ne#topic Notices15:26
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amotokiregarding discussion topics, apart from the topic I raised, I think we need to check the status of the community goals.15:26
e0neamotoki I won't attend the next meeting. we can skip it or you'll be a chair next time15:27
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amotokie0ne: do you mean a meeting on Dec 26?15:27
e0neyes15:28
amotokiMy new-year vacation starts at Dec 2815:28
amotokiperhaps we can skip next two meetings15:28
e0nesounds reasonable. I'll send a mail to openstack-discuss@ ML15:29
amotoki+115:29
e0ne#agreed to skip next two meeting due to the Christmas holidays15:29
e0ne#topic Community Goals15:30
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e0ne'mox => mock migration' - I finished a patch, but have to fix few pep8 errors. finally, will do it this week15:31
amotokiawesome!!15:31
e0nePython3 first15:31
e0neI think we're complete this goal15:31
amotokiperhaps we need to use python3 by default in devstack15:32
e0nehm..15:32
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amotokido we already use py3 in devstack?15:32
amotokior our gate?15:32
e0neI was thinking we do15:33
e0nebut we don't :(15:33
e0ne#action e0ne to propose a python3-based devstack job15:33
e0neI'll create a patch after the meeting15:33
amotokisounds fine! thanks15:33
e0neI'm pretty sure that it'll work without issues:)15:33
amotokigenerally speaking, I believe we don't have any issue on py315:34
e0neI mean horizon, not my patch :)15:34
e0neamotoki: +115:34
amotoki:)15:34
e0neI use python3 on my env for horizon for the last few months without any issues15:34
e0nepre-upgrade check ("horizon-status upgrade check" command)15:35
e0neI don't know any progress on it from rdopiera15:35
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amotokihave rdopiera took this? I didn't know that15:35
e0newe agreed to have a check if we've got some outdated config options in the config15:35
e0neamotoki: he did it. I can find irc logs if needed15:36
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amotokisounds nice :)15:36
e0ne#topic Are there features we would like to drop in Stein and/or mark as deprecated?15:37
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e0neit's safe to remove keystone v2 and glance v115:38
amotokihave we marked them as deprecated?15:38
e0neno15:39
amotokiI think we have several approaches on feature removal15:39
e0nebut technically, we can't use horizon with these features15:39
amotokihorizon depends on back-end services15:39
amotokiso we sometimes drop some feature in a shorter deprecation period compared to other back-end serivces15:39
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amotokithe reason is that we honor deprecations from back-end services.15:40
e0ne+115:40
amotokithis is a good news, though we can follow the standard deprecation period :)15:40
e0neyes, I think it's OK to mark other APIs support as deprecated and remove in T release15:41
amotokiit is related to our support policy for N-1 release15:41
e0neyes15:41
amotokiso what soudns reasonable is to mark features which can be dropped in Train release as deprecated in Stein release15:42
amotokiand to document our policy clearly15:43
e0nesounds good15:45
amotokii can take an action to propose deprecation notices15:46
amotokiwe can discuss which features should be deprecated in a review15:46
e0neit would be awewsome15:47
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amotokithat's all from me on the community goals15:49
amotokiah...15:50
amotokithe topic is about feature deprecations15:50
e0newe covered both of them already15:51
amotoki:)15:51
amotokiare there anything to be discussed?15:52
amotokiregarding open reviews, I would like to ask your opinions on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/623582/15:53
e0nenothing from my side15:53
e0neamotoki: I still don't understand the use case15:53
amotokias of now I am not so supportive to re-invent another solutions....15:54
amotokithird eye would be appreciated15:54
e0neadded to my TODOs list15:54
amotokithanks15:54
e0neyou're welcome15:55
e0neamotoki: do you have anything more to discuss?15:55
amotokie0ne: nothing15:55
e0neok15:56
e0neenjoy your vacation!15:56
-amotoki- is approaching the nearest station15:56
-amotoki- is getting off the train :)15:56
amotokibye15:56
e0nesee you after New Year15:56
e0ne#endmeeting15:56
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